Can the Russian S-400 SAM be beaten?

[@Binkov]

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[@valhalla9688]

Binkov's Battlegrounds thanks for the great videos Binkov!

[@pyeitme508]

COOL!

[@tusk3260]

Actually the S-400 is just the best on the market but the Russians are upgrading to S-500 Thats how they do things they sell their best instead its their second best and they do the same thing with their tanks guns and everything else . But that doesn't make there second best bad

[@cullenduval1056]

Binkov's Battlegrounds naaaah dude

[@mickeyg7219]

@@tusk3260 S-500 is not an upgrade, its a supplement to the S-400. It was designed to engage ballistic and hypersonic missiles at longer range. From the info we have, each S-500 launcher only carry 2 huge missiles, so its purpose is different.

[@HalfLife333]

Very good review, just ordered two s-400’s for my sisters birthday.

[@andrewsmall6834]

How could one be invited to this?

[@sockaccount8116]

Did you use Binkov's coupon code to get one S1-Pantsir for free?

[@joshicune]

Is she so pretty that she need so strong defense?

[@lazarjovanovic4388]

@@joshicune only 1 way to find out

[@rinharter7758]

@@lazarjovanovic4388 you know the rules and so do i

[@teemuseppanen9323]

USSR and Russian Federation both know that strenght of usa is airpower, so naturally they improved anti-air cability

[@SpiraSpiraSpira]

This is very true, and you can see it the other way also: during the Cold War NATO was most concerned about thousands of Soviet tanks hence the development of such systems as the A-10, Apache, javelin missiles, etc.

[@lius20608]

Not only anti-aircraft but Russia has biuld their own fleet of super jets to counter the piece of shiet F35 that can't even shoot straight😂

[@mihailsaratov2800]

@@SpiraSpiraSpira its basicly a huge game of rock-paper-scissors its about measure and counter measure i think of it like RPG game you cant be best at everything at the same time so you focus on what's our best trait.

[@jurisprudens]

@@lius20608 "Flea of super jets" - wat? :)

[@mustafaoztekin1997]

F-35 system shut down... What about the strength airpower... :(

[@vasilzahariev5741]

Watching the launches of AA missiles is so satisfying.

[@mikeb.5039]

All missiles are fun to watch...

[@Dazzxp]

@@mikeb.5039 I prefer the s400 the way it launches and turns mid fight is so cool

[@gobimurugesan2411]

Try Submarine launched missiles. It's more satisfying

[@zes3813]

wrr

[@first7589]

The deadliest SAM system - according to Russia today. Not according to ATACMS missiles from the 1990s...

[@maromaro274]

I was looking for this comment

[@Assterburner]

boowoop, someone who doesnt understand ABM missions talking stupidly

[@glockglockenspiel5816]

@@Assterburner elaborate

[@neogenmatrix6162]

Israeli F-35I strikes in Syria, they were able to operate with complete impunity in areas defended by S400 and S300 systems.

[@nodzeratul]

Yeah they informed russia about each of those attacks

[@Shark87211]

except russia wasnt trying to shoot down israeli planes

[@hermannpiana6649]

Russia has a deal with Israel that they don't shoot at their planes.

[@TheStealthEcho]

​@@hermannpiana6649proof ???

[@kylehayes6432]

​@@hermannpiana6649 Proof?

[@touko_nanami]

1:44 ad ends

[@zystix6966]

LEGEND

[@ryangonzales7716]

Give this man an S-400

[@touko_nanami]

Ryan Gonzales but I don’t want the USA to cut my F-35 deal

[@danishkfd]

Thanks

[@bazej1080]

Two days ago S-400 battery in Eupatoria, Crimea has been hit, its main radar and its command center have been destroyed. The rest was evacuated. Russian MOD stated it was hit by just 2 Ukrainian missiles. 3 days ago S-400 protecting Sevastopol has been saturated by 10 Scalp missiles which hit a dry dock, an assault ship and a Kilo class submarine.

[@MICLakVER]

Sources trust me bro And west media propganda😂

[@Iamabot4708]

Source I'm an American I just love seeing weak ciu tries with weak millitarys try and convince themselves ukraine has a chance of winning

[@MrWasGehtSieDasAn01]

@@MICLakVER There are literally pictures of the destroyed ship and submarine, even the Russian MOD does not denie it anymore

[@MICLakVER]

@@MrWasGehtSieDasAn01 no they shows other destroyed weapon as s-400 90% west media propganda

[@gaborbravo1]

@@MICLakVER Source: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJnddoSnd7Zmpsk

[@Deus1Vult]

And now it's time to read the experts' comments.......

[@zeknight4352]

Martín Gonzalez lol I agree

[@martiner]

in all countries, all cultures, any fields, there are comment-experts.

[@zeknight4352]

IR Seeker I don’t whether you are being legit or your trying to show your countries superior-ness but I won’t interfere (I won’t respond)

[@Deus1Vult]

@@irseeker9989 another expert...... 😅

[@zeknight4352]

Martín Gonzalez more like “expert”

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Real Engineering advertising F-35, Binkov advertising S-400, the battle of cyberspace is raging.

[@rvs55]

Very effective against airliners, I heard.

[@keirmclean1759]

no only for israelis to use airlines as human shields in their shitty f35 junk... lol which cant shoot a gun and has 1300 software problems and also suffocates the pilot.. nice troll farm ziohack comment but obvious misplaced propaganda.

[@imrekalman9044]

@@keirmclean1759 Nonsense, the F-35 only has 800 software problems, okay? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MullahSteinberg]

Is that what the USA against Iranian 747 passenger jet ?

[@imrekalman9044]

@@MullahSteinberg If you mean the one in 1988 it was an Airbus A300, and a Standard missile, killing 290 innocent people.

[@kcimb]

Keir Mclean the f35 is soo bad the Iranians can’t find it..and neither can the syrians which means the Israelis can target anything anywhere in Syria. Word.

[@badapple824]

So S-400 uses Nord VPN to secure it's communication? 🤣🤣

[@ahmedalfasatwi7731]

The NordVPN ad transition is so well done I thought the Russians used NordVPN for their s400 communications

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

It is incredible the lack of maturity these issues are approached with. It is not a matter of supporting one side or another, it is a matter of understanding what may happen if a conflict breaks out because then it will be of paramount importance. Since clever people exist everywhere in the world, the only sure thing is that each side will be in for surprises. There is no invincible technology or tactic, they are introduced, peak and the they are replaced by something else. In a war this process is incredibly accelerated. NO side should be confident to have any form of superiority.

[@YourLocalMemeAndAnimeDealer]

@Zahir Datoo Sure thing bud

[@egedemir4753]

The S400 missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.

[@TornadoADV]

Yes.

[@Kayzef2003]

Exactly!!! If the F35 has a radar cross section of the size of a bumble bee BUT the AI linked to the S400 detects a bumble bee flying at unnatural speeds and height. Why would it not assess the bumble as suspect??? I think US fan boys are in for a surprise if US engages an S300 or S400.

[@joeblowme5427]

@@Kayzef2003 , uawire.org/american-f-35-fighter-jets-turned-out-to-be-invisible-for-russian-s-400-missile-systems

[@joeblowme5427]

@@Kayzef2003 , read these two articles from Iranian media called HispanTV which is geared towards hispanics. Read how Syrians are disappointed with Suck-300s and now they wanna take their chances by acquiring Chinese HQ-9 and Iranian made Bavar 373.... not that they will make a DIFFERENCE with Israel , but that's how desperate Syrians are ! Use Google Translate and enjoy...LOL www.hispantv.com/noticias/siria/442909/s300-rusia-hq9-china-israel www.hispantv.com/noticias/siria/437858/iran-sistema-antiaereo-ataques-israel

[@chavdarnaidenov2661]

You must be an economist. Your conclusions are absolutely true and absolutely irrelevant.

[@nil981]

S-500: am I a joke to you?

[@joeblowme5427]

Suck-400s are a JOKE

[@joeblowme5427]

@@jubeiorigami4096 , DID YOU READ TOWARDS THE END OF THAT ARTICLE ?? LMAO ! " However, C4ISRNet also noted that the German company knew when the jets were coming and were able to use the signals from the jets’ ADS-B transponders to help identify the craft."

[@Head_Coach]

Great work done, commissar Binkov! Nice level of knowledge!

[@compleategamster3304]

i saw the “includes paid promotion” box in the corner and thought shame im not in the market for SAM systems

[@AriefMamoerRiawan]

As far as I know, Soviet/Russian SAM's system is the most system that is already being used in the battlefield, like those Pantsirs, TORs and S-300s. Well of course only SAMs system isn't enough against flying enemy,, be it Cruise Missile, Long Range Gliding Smart Bombs, Ballistic Missile, etc. . In the real battlefield, these SAMs (S-300s, S-400s, Pantsirs, SAMP/T, Patriot, HQ-9) is a part of IADS. No system will be working alone. Clearly more Soviet SAMs than US/European SAMs in almost every battlefield, since the country that has the system it is almost always getting bullied by US and its allies. Nice content, Binkov. Unbiased, very rare these days.

[@Aaron-wq3jz]

Unbiased huh

[@mickeyg7219]

@@Aaron-wq3jz Well, Binkov is one of the few military channel on KZbin that admit when there's not enough publicly available info about something, and put a disclaimer when he have to speculate. Biased channel tend to "know" everything about a weapon system to its exact detail, even if it's classified.

[@ultimoguerreiro82]

Comrade Binkov, as always, you´re awesome. Thank you for teaching me so much. Love from Brazil!

[@trololoev]

Partiot: if they come from that direction i shot them S-400: what if they go around and attack from behind? Patriot: surprised pickachu face

[@wcooper0077]

Humm gotta love all the classified info that these people don't know about the patriot. 14e here used to work on the pac 3-4 systems

[@churchofthespaceturtle]

@@wcooper0077 Then you know Patriot isn't as good as S400. Great. Good to know.

[@wcooper0077]

@@churchofthespaceturtle well considering it plays a vital role in defending assets

[@wcooper0077]

@@seeleagent people just think we are defenseless or something lol.. if they only knew... I mean they have videos explaining what is declassified. But apparently they don't know how to Google things..

[@trololoev]

@@seeleagent rocket usually attack from different sides, even if they being shot from 1 place.

[@florianN132]

This did NOTage very well 😁 IT IS defeatable - very much so... All you need is some 80s design rocket artillery systems and the S-400 battery is nothing more than a smoking pile of scrap metal. Because it seemingly can't do shit about incoming ATACAMS rockets Just proven by Ukraine a couple of days ago ,;)

[@Sachrial1]

A LOT of binkovs videos did not age too well. But to be fair: I think he really tried and tries to be fair and neutral. Seeing russias army performing much weaker than expected, in almost any task given to it, makes most people question chanels informing us about powerfull russian weapons. That unfortunately doesn't mean they are harmles. It shows that they have weak spots and ukraine very effectively finds and uses them against russia. But make no mistake: They are dangerouse. Less if an army using them is incompetent, but still a potentialy deadly force.

[@florianN132]

@@Sachrial1 I totally agree! The poor performance of the Russians surprised most people, so absolutely no offense to binkov. And yes - even a completely incompetent idiot with a weapon is dangerous unfortunately 😕

[@dirkaminimo4836]

Yeah it’s s crazy looking back. Damn propaganda just works sometimes…

[@jimtalbott9535]

Around 16:50 he addresses this too. “No combat data”. We have that now, that’s for sure!

[@fjfell5979]

What we need is a russian missile system that wont shoot down civilian aircraft. They seem to be very good at taking down Boeings. The ability to distinguish military from civilian needs some tweeking.

[@MrCastodian]

Maybe they can get the help from USA in developing that? O no, cant be done, they did exactly the same, they also shoot down a civilian Boeing...Bad SM-2 Missile...

[@ricardosoto5770]

@@MrCastodian IT was an Airbus, but this shows the limits of SAM as air defense weapons, they cannot investigate if a target is civilan or military. And too agressive commander can force his crew to commit mistakes.. That is why SAM cannot replace aircraft as a air defense tools, just to supplement them. The USS Vinncenes commander forced his crew to shoot despite misgivings about the target being civilian and not an F 14. The MH 17 was shot down by a Buk missile crew who though they were facing a Su 25 or a Antonov elint plane.. I bet the Iranian Tor M had the same conclusion.

[@royalukas8144]

Very informative, Binkov! Thanks for this competitive analysis...

[@edwardkim8972]

Binkov does not mention the South Korean M-SAM which is based on S-350 technology. Samsung and LiG collaborated with the Russians to build the M-SAM whereas the Russians branched off to take that joint research to develop the S-400. This is a fascinating case of a U.S. ally getting S-400 technology without upsetting the U.S.

[@izeiHH9675]

can modern day Vatican city invade medieval Europe?

[@abandonne7188]

*papal states intensifies*

[@speedy01247]

Could modern day Luxembourg conquer medieval Europe. (everything within the nation's borders is transported to the time period chosen)

[@kennooo535]

The swiss guards arent a mobile force and they dont have guns

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

@@kennooo535 Neither do medieval states ^^

[@kennooo535]

Bogdan Bogdanoff then theres no point in making a vid

[@01ZombieMoses10]

The analysis in this video has to be among the best a civilian could get without being an actual military contractor. Great job. I particularly liked how you pointed out the differences in US and Russian zone control doctrine in explaining why the capabilities of Patriot and the S-type SAM families differ substantially in certain areas. Doctrine is and has been the sum of all parts since war became more than just a knock-down, drag-out fight between rival villages. It doesn't matter who has the most capable 'X', but who has the best overall capabilities when 'X', 'Y' and 'Z' are all deployed in concert.

[@wadas9042]

I have been waiting this for so long, thanks for video.

[@stupidburp]

You missed one important option for Patriot - SkyCeptor missiles. SkyCeptor are similar to the Stunner missiles used in Israel and their development is related. They are not quite identical but have similar size and range. Poland opted for SkyCeptor instead of PAC-3MSE because they are vastly less expensive while still highly capable. Poland uses the other PAC-3 components such as command and radars, just with these different interceptors. When comparing systems, this option should be noted.

[@ronaldspriggs8002]

The transition into that paid promotion was smooth AF

[@jakedee4117]

There are a lot of very ignorant comments here to the effect of "because S-400 hasn't shot down an F-35 it can't shoot down an F-35 and is therefore useless" That would be like saying because a cop hasn't shot and killed a gangster he can't shoot and kill a gangster as is therefore useless. Deterrence is a big part of this game. So far I am only aware of Israel hitting low value Iranian targets in Syria. If Israel was operating F-35s with impunity over Syria like it does over Lebanon or if it hit the SAM systems directly then we would could say it's a waste of money.

[@TMHYAH7]

@helen he That's why the US doesn't operator anything flying where S400 is deployed.

[@kcimb]

Jake Dee Israel strikes Damascus with f35s...the s400s russia operated power down. They aren’t getting involved in a fight with a region power. Too scared

[@jakedee4117]

@@kcimb There is definitely an arrangement between Russia and Israel over Syria but it would be a mistake to think Israel is bullying Russia. The arrangement is something like this, Russia will not act to protect Iranian assets in Syria being hit by Israeli air power but will protect the Assad government. There is nothing in Syria that Israel wants to kill so badly that it is willing to risk war with Russia over. Killing Russians will require a response from Moscow. I believe that Israel would have crushed Damascus, directly or indirectly without Russian support. A strong Syria runs against Israel's plans. People will leave you alone once you have the means of self defense.

[@ricardosoto5770]

@@jakedee4117 Strong and Syria des not goes hand in hand... The Israelis probably want Assad in power as a lesser evil, but ruling over a ruined country.... that will take 250 billion to rebuild and the money will not come as long as Assad is in power... So Russia let Israel target the Iranians but neither the S 400 or the Syrian S 300 will target the Israelis.. Who probably will wipe them out in days if they do...

[@jakedee4117]

@@ricardosoto5770 Syrian air defense does target Israeli planes and they are perfectly within their rights to do so. I don't believe Israel wants to conquer Syria, but keep Syria weak with no clear leader. They have been supporting rebel/jihadi fighters.

[@mattmatt516]

Great video! I love this longer and more detailed format!

[@nathanremix5800]

F35 : We Are The Best S400 : Anyway I Start Blasting

[@joeblowme5427]

In your wet DREAMS maybe dude...lol

[@jubeiorigami4096]

@@joeblowme5427 www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7522413/amp/German-radar-tracked-two-U-S-F-35-stealth-jet-100-MILES-hiding-pony-farm.html&ved=2ahUKEwjK0_Lj35bnAhWZgVwKHWvvCDYQFjANegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw21VFzCh0JeeRah5f2sqsoe&ampcf=1

[@jubeiorigami4096]

S400 was designed specifically to shoot down 5th Generation stealth aircraft.

[@joeblowme5427]

@@jubeiorigami4096 , DID YOU EVEN READ THE ARTICLE ??🤣🤣🤣 AT THE END IT SAYS THIS " However, C4ISRNet also noted that the German company knew when the jets were coming and were able to use the signals from the jets’ ADS-B transponders to help identify the craft."

[@joeblowme5427]

@@jubeiorigami4096 , WELL , SUCK-400s ARE UNABLE TO DETECT THEM.... LOL

[@danzervos7606]

A lot of speculation. We do know for sure that Russian missile systems are deadly against commercial transport aircraft that don't know they are under attack.

[@sockaccount8116]

That is TOR operated by morons. I've read about the Serbian Officer whose team took down F-117 and one F-16 during the Kosovo war. He said that only the biggest morons would be able to take down a commercial jet, because it's shown as as such on the radar, and it's obvious even for older such systems it is, not to mention they carry transponders. The plane also took off from Teheran, i.e. it was not spotted near the border, making the whole thing even stupider. It is not the system's fault it's operated by morons

[@sockaccount8116]

@Adecodoo Also, TOR is not modern system in any way, but it still wouldn't make the mistake of mixing a commercial jet with a fighter one, since way older Russian systems (which were used in shooting down f-16 and f-117) did not make such mistakes

[@sockaccount8116]

@Samim Taheri in any case, not any fault of the system itself

[@danzervos7606]

@Adecodoo 32 years ago.

[@danzervos7606]

@Adecodoo So explain why the Iranians thought an attack was coming from their airport. In 1988, the perceived attack was coming from a hostile direction and the plane involved had a similar radar signal as an F-14 and there was confusion as to which radio frequency it was using, the pilot ignored the repeated warnings. The Iranian should not have sent a commercial plane into an area where they were engaging in small boat attacks. The Aegis is much upgraded from 32 years ago as most weapon systems have been also. Just consider what your PC was like 32 years ago compared to what you have now.

[@AchwaqKhalid]

The best overall coverage of the system capabilities I've seen so far 👌 Thank you comrade Binkov 👊 Next: Laser Anti-air system

[@bediles]

great video, always amazed by your work and dedication

[@jimsagubigula7337]

Russia is the most advanced nation in the world when it comes to air defense. Nothing can match the S400 system. Especially the upcoming S500.

[@cmavuso6068]

Spot on brother!

[@theonewhodoesntcringe4048]

True, so if people say “S-400 is garbage” they’re basically saying all the other defence systems are dog shit. Every country would instantly buy the S-400 system if they were allowed or able to

[@scottcampbell5536]

Many countries use S400 including NATO ones.

[@jimsagubigula7337]

@@scottcampbell5536 The export versions

[@scottcampbell5536]

@@jimsagubigula7337 sams will be useless in upcoming drone wars anyway.

[@jazz.560]

Can you make a video on the S500 since it has been deployed for the first time recently?

[@TennesseeHomesteadUSA]

Yes -- the S-400 batteries can't even protect themselves...

[@MaHaL1337]

Good job on getting us solid info and a good comparison Binkov

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

Iran's SAM are excellent at taking down commercial airliners.

[@user1596]

Duke of Lorraine They shot down the Plane on purpose

[@defencebangladesh4068]

That was TOR-M1

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

@@user1596 what would they have gained by that ? There were riots in Iran AGAINST the iranian government after they admitted having shot down that plane. It looks more like an accident that is to be expected of a questionably competent chain of command in a situation when they were trigger-happy...

[@massineben7198]

Too soon

[@user1596]

Duke of Lorraine Nobody understands the Mullahs. But if anything I think its a message against Iranians who live abroad. If you look closely at it, there were mainly Dual Citizens of Western/Iranian Origin on the Plane.

[@pixelwortel9578]

Maybe a Turkey vs Egypt video because of the Tensions between Turkey and Egypt over Lybia.

[@stardustuniverse6941]

We are brother with Egypt.There will be no war between us.I wish Egypt will shake off Sisi as soon as posible.Amin.

[@pixelwortel9578]

@@stardustuniverse6941 they can't shake him off. They need Turkey to help them.

[@southtexasprepper1837]

The S-400 Surface-To-Air Missile: The perfect target for the AGM-88 HARM Missile.

[@jonathangant251]

It can track planes in behind the lines .

[@southtexasprepper1837]

@@jonathangant251 In order for the S-400 Surface-To-Air Missile System to do that, it has to emit an active radar pulse. That makes it vulnerable to the AGM-88 HARM Missile. The AGM-88 HARM Missile has a operational range of 150 kilometres; 92 miles (80 nmi). It has a speed of 2,280 km/h (1,420 mph).

[@vindicare9636]

SDBs are better imo than HARMs,S-400s never works alone,smaller SAMs(Pantsir, Tor) guarding them against precision guided weapons.Planes can launch more SDBs than HARMs to overpower SAMs.Imo S-400 is mediocre,just like Patriots , because it requires too much baby sitting to remain effective.Too static.S-350s represents future SAMs much better.Very mobile,hard to find,good but not insane range.

[@southtexasprepper1837]

@@vindicare9636 SDBs have an operational range of about 60 miles (110 km). If it's my choice, I'll choose HARMs. Let the Iranians turn their radars on and get a pretty present. BOOM! If all else fails, use a Cruise Missile.

[@vindicare9636]

@@southtexasprepper1837 Yes,but combine it with 5th generation jets.They can strike targets with impunity,and more cost effective than HARMs,and much easier to make than cruise missiles,and fighter jets can carry more of them.If you launch HARMs too early,a modern SAM simply powers down its radar and starts moving and you wasted missiles, see Yugoslavia ,The trick with stealth is imo,that modern SAMs can track,and shot down a stealth plane.The real question is at what range can a SAM track a stealth plane,probably less than 100 kilometers if i pessimistic,and less than 50 kilometers if i am optimistic,combine that with an SDB,which is a hard target itself,and cheap,and you've got a very good challenge for SAM operators. Numerous small targets, in quick succession,instead of 2-8 targets.Plus SDBs do not care if the radar is powered down. The S-350 is a direct answer for the F-35 in that regard,it has more missiles(12 / launcher vs 4/launcher), quicker to deploy and leave firing position,and has active radar homing missiles,meaning it has fire-and-forget capabilities,and its locator can see 360°,against the S-400 90°.

[@andreasleonardo6793]

Nice video about S-400 unites & explaining how its work and what is its weak points for covering skies from air attacks

[@Xylos101]

nah as it turns out it's the TOR system, almost 100% accurate against civilian airliners.

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

Does death of 200 people make you laugh?

[@Xylos101]

@@bogdanbogdanoff5164 they will not be the last but with your help we can stop death.

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

@@Xylos101 you mean nuke tel aviv?

[@logisticsnail5014]

Holy shit 😂😂😂

[@Xylos101]

@@bogdanbogdanoff5164 Thankfully the Jews/Israelis moved their capital. Tel Aviv here we come.

[@mustaphasadok3172]

Hi bro.... I do not agree with this analysis because S400 is one element of IADS that contains others VHF RADAR, short range air defense system and even jets fighters....it's a real forteresse

[@nottherealpaulsmith]

short answer: yes long answer: it has some weaknesses but it's a good all-rounder

[@TheWebstaff]

haha I hope the s400 doesn't use nordVPN to keep its data safe or else we might have a problem...

[@bbcc-p7w]

Fun to re-whatch the video in 2024 😅

[@arafdi]

One of the more interesting video, well researched and illustrated. Hope you'll make more of these kind of videos!

[@obelic71]

As asked for any anti air system. The most important question is the S-400 better against shooting down blood sucking mosquito's then other systems ?

[@edilbertorivera3467]

If it can shoot down mosquitoes then it's the best anti air defense.

[@johnlance8118]

@@edilbertorivera3467 that has been a dream of mine. Super mini sized s-400 for countering multiple mosquitos

[@rogerxiao4458]

Great video Binkov and team! I hope there will be more analysis videos in the near future.

[@michaeldiebold8847]

If you are a civilian airliner in iran, than yes, the s400 is the deadliest sam of all time.

[@dosmundos3830]

Iran doesn't operate the S400 system, ya bonehead.

[@SOS-School_Of_Survival]

Most likely a Tor system

[@awizardlizard6793]

Your comment is shameful, no matter where it's directed to.

[@michaeldiebold8847]

@@awizardlizard6793 leave Jeffrey L alone. He can comment all he wants, you big bully!

[@awizardlizard6793]

@@michaeldiebold8847 I was replying to you, but that went right over your head.

[@nickbrough8335]

As a system I'm sure its very capable. The problem with very large high speed long range missiles is that they will be relatively easy to detect and track (using a variety of different technologies). At very high speeds the missile won't be very manoeuvrable, which will make it relatively easy to evade by a small fighter target. We also don't know if US AESA radars will be able to jam the seeker head either. I suspect the system using the smaller high speeds missiles is likely to be more effective. However, that assumes F-35 would attack at latitude to user GPS/Laser guided bombs. These days they are more likely to be using smart self guided stand-off glide weapons or missiles. Other aircraft are likely to adopt low altitudes to seek to use land cover. Before any strike package arrives, the US would certainly used F-35 pr F-15 based extend range HARM missiles to degrade the S-400 radar suite, probably fired from a relatively low altitude or behind the radar horizon using targeting data from other high altitude F-35 or AWACS/ELINT systems. We also have no idea how effective onboard ECM systems are either. As you say, the fundamental problem with countering stealth fighters is the accuracy and effectiveness of the targeting radar(s).

[@apollo-eu4fk]

when usa invaded iraq they used decoy drones to make the iraq s 200 systems waste their missiles . they flew in 200 drones past the s 200 and made them shoot it down on purpose while they were focusing on them the b2s hit them taking them out . not a single aircraft was shot down but that was the older system not s400 the f 35 is designed to control 11 drones at once with its headset as decoys

[@r.p5380]

@@apollo-eu4fk s400 has a powerful radar it can fry the electronics inside drones.

[@dvanblaricom]

@@r.p5380 The s400 kills stealth fighters by the hundreds. If there is one in theater it will consume the enemy with fire balls from its eyes and lightning from its arse.

[@Zappina]

@@apollo-eu4fk Its not the same. Iraq used the S200 as a single system and not part of a larger anti air group as the russians. Wasting missiles against drones is a pretty novice mistake or born from desperation if no other, more capable system in present to deal with the drones.

[@sababugs1125]

@@Zappina You don't know if it's a decoy or not if they are then you get exposed if they aren't they bomb you

[@billballbuster7186]

Since the Vietnam war the US has been able to destroy the best Russian SAM missiles on the ground before they can launch, simply by homing a missile on the SAM's tracking radar which is visible when switched on. The more powerful the radar the easier for a missile to lock on to it and the S-400 has a very big signature, certainly more than an attacking aircraft firing a small stand-off anti-radiation missile.

[@Anti_Everything]

fair comment, but anti-radar missiles in today's ultra-saturated radar field will be lost and will not be able to operate effectively.

[@kirtil5177]

honestly i think russia would be saturated with SAM's, as their home is much more important then vietnam was, to try and force a situation where a destroyed S-400 is avenged by multiple more next to it. Thought that will also depend on how much both side's radar and everything else has improved, which civilians like us will not have any access to such information, and how the newest classified missiles work, what their range is, etc

[@electrolysisresearch8013]

@@Anti_Everything Utter nonsense. They just send stealth drones to map out their SAM locations with passive radar. And they have actually zero chance of detecting it until it's like 50 km away. While broadcasting there location out to 400km. Than simultaneously launch Stealth Anti-radiation radiation missiles at each Radar location they found. They are really small fly low and slow and it is too late by the time they detected one. They can also launch 2,400Km 3D thrust vectoring missiles, or mach 20 hypersonic glide vehicles ground-based SAMs are ineffective at stopping stealth fighters. The only way to actually stop stealth fighters is with other stealth fighters. F-35s have already flown right past S-400 missile systems. This is just more overhyped Russian Bullock trying to sell weapons.

[@Anti_Everything]

@@electrolysisresearch8013 Are you the third of the Brothers Grimm? You write fairy tales just as well. Stealth, stealth, stealth .. You believe so blindly in this untested technology that you are ready to shove it everywhere. Even non-existent missiles and weapons.

[@gumelini1]

@@electrolysisresearch8013mach 20 hypersonic glide vehicle's?USA has those?Wake up kid

[@jimtalbott9535]

16:50 - “No combat data”. Well, that lady needs an update!

[@victorrivera8862]

Make a video explaining in detail the 1989 US invasion of Panama, about the strategies and organization used by both sides. It would be interesting.

[@Defender78]

The S-400 missile system is effective, but it has deficiencies. It's completely ineffective against tanks and armored bunkers

[@jakiwijaya7316]

Well its SAM system, specifically designed to eliminate air threats.

[@Amirali-tx3nw]

@@jakiwijaya7316 i think he is joking

[@jakiwijaya7316]

@@Amirali-tx3nw idk, but my first thought is also he is joking

[@kombat7508]

@@Amirali-tx3nw i don't think so

[@RedRider1600]

It's been proven to be ineffective against low flying cruise missiles, like the Tomahawk. And most likely ineffective against stealth aircraft. It's never shot down a single true stealth aircraft, not even in it's development and testing.

[@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter]

Video sum up: Effective range and lethality: we don't know Effectiveness against stealth: we don't know Price: we don't know Is it the best SAM: we don't know

[@2ndkombat]

F-35 is not completely invisible from radar but Very Low Observable (VLO)

[@RedRider1600]

Very Low Observable, yes, at close range. But beyond 20 to 30 miles . . . The F-35, F-22, and B-2 bomber are completely invisible to radar. The B-1B bomber is slightly stealthier than the SU-57, but by American standards, we do not consider it a "stealth" aircraft.

[@2ndkombat]

@@RedRider1600 i work with radar equipments. all of the aircraft u mentioned can be spotted with radar but it is just on & off depending on the angle of the aircraft. Radar bands, type & size/power also a factor. a small military radar on an aircraft might miss signature but a huge powerful radar definitely able to detect return signature of those aircrafts.

[@RedRider1600]

@@2ndkombat Not even huge powerful radar can detect true stealth aircraft, like the F-35 beyond 20 or 30 miles. Unless you are talking about low frequency radars, that are too large to fit on ships and aircraft, and definitely too large to fit on missiles. . . The strength of a radar signal itself has little to do with stealth detection. But the problem with low frequency radars, besides being massively too big, is that they are too inaccurate and too imprecise to use for targeting and precise tracking. They are large, usually immobile targets, that could be detected from hundreds of miles or thousands of miles away, and would be destroyed at the start of a war. The more powerful the radar is, the easier it is to detect and destroy them. We already know where they all are.

[@fluffymuffin9089]

@@2ndkombat detection maybe..but keep tracking the target is a different story

[@francoislechanceux5818]

The best SAM that has NEVER shot down a single plane or a single missile.

[@JustifyJustin]

Sometimes a system's presence is enough to deter - which is the best solution. The same with nukes. The moment those S systems landed in Syria it enforced a no-fly zone that NOBODY crossed. That alone says it all.

[@francoislechanceux5818]

@@JustifyJustin Nobody crossed where ? Israel has been bombing syria and the ourskirts of Damascus at will since 6 years now. Yesterday, it did it again and killed 6 iranian and syrian govt soldiers. The USA was bombing syrian soldiers when they mess up until the US volontarily withdrew a few months ago. Turkey aviation still flies in and out of syria at will. Lol. Your neo-soviet propaganda is untenable in the face of HARD realities. Your S-300, S-400 etc... are just political weapons. They are worth NOTHING.

[@JustifyJustin]

@@francoislechanceux5818 You are aware that Damascus is over 200km from Latakia, right? PS> they aren't "my" systems - I'm from a country that doesn't have weapon systems from Russia or the US...

[@francoislechanceux5818]

@@JustifyJustin Israel has not only been bombing Damascus alone since the last 6 years. It's been bombing everywhere in syria where are hezbollah, iranian combattants or bases and also where there exist threatening syrian soldiers. The USA bombed everywhere too when it was active in syria. Turkie has been bombing in a vast area bordering its territory. So what's your neo-soviet propaganda point ?

[@JustifyJustin]

@@francoislechanceux5818 Wow, aren't you pro-Israel... there goes objectivity out the window. Maybe you should re-educate yourself on the "terrorists" and "white-helmets" cause it seems you've been having too much anti-Russian cool-aid. BTW the US stopped bombing "everywhere" when the Russians deployed their AA systems. Further to your factual LIE - Israel has only struck around Damascus and just outside of Madan. That's it... so much for "everywhere".... google it yourself if you dont trust this apologist LOL

[@kempmt1]

I like watching the Russian S300 and S400 cold launches. They kick the missile out of tube, then fire their rocket motor. Are there any clips of missile misfires after leaving the tube?

[@MrCastodian]

Yes, search for “S-300 misfire” you can se a failed missile launch.

[@NR29pacnat]

Send E/A18G Growlers with F15/F16/F18/22/35 as escort.

[@dennisyoung7363]

Excellent breakdown. Absolutely thorough. Thanks.

[@Jawshuah]

part of me feels that stand off weapons and precision satellites will make large air defense like s400 obsolete.

[@rare_kumiko]

Great video. S-400 is indeed probably the best missile system in the world, but it suffers from the same issue as any other SAM, it's ground based and not that good on its own. Even with the mast radar, Earth is round and you can't see past 40-50 km against low flying targets (and that's supposing flat terrain, that said, putting it on a mountain can also help against this). And 40-50 km is well within the range of a HARM or many other ground attack missiles, which makes the system vulnerable if it's not part of an integrated defense system as a few attacking aircraft can just approach low, peek over the horizon, launch a salvo of several missiles, go low again, turn around and leave. So, probably the best, but limited for being just a SAM. So I'd think that it wouldn't work well near the frontlines where such low flying attacks against it are possible, but it would be better in the rear where other units can cover against this, and the S-400 can defend against medium to high altitude attacks.

[@vladimirpoo-tinisabitch4623]

It can not be the best until proven

[@petemitchell1403]

This didn't age well

[@johannaldbrecht1594]

Not to be an asshole or anything, but 360 degree tracking on a long range SAM is the biggest thing since whooptee doo. Unless you are afraid of your own airforce attacking you, you only need to look at your borders.

[@catblue6401]

They probably are afraid of that

[@TheHenirik]

it could be useful if you place them on a island or something, its not like having the option should make the system weaker

[@LegaRoSS]

Pretty solid review. One thing you missed is that both S-300 and S-400 are parts of what is called "echeloned air defence" which means that sites would be covered not only by long range S-300/400 but with mid and close range systems as S-350, Buk, Tor, Pancir. That's speaking about number of available interceptors.

[@markbrisec3972]

Thankfully US Army has finally selected a new radar for the Patriot system. This new radar, made by Raytheon, is, of course, an AESA type radar, but more importantly it has a 360 degree coverage. Other data are not available since they're classified but it's fairly certain to presume that the sensitivity and the anti jamming capability are significantly improved too. As far as S-400 is concerned, I won't be an asshole here and claim that our stealthy fighters and bombers would penetrate the ground covered by the S-400 like nothing. But that being said I have to point out that USAF has been intensively practicing and war gaming, tactics, procedures and weapons used, to counter these modern SAM systems. Let's just hope we will never have to find out whose side bet on the wrong horse. Us with the offensive doctrine with stealthy strike assets, or their side with strong defensive doctrine using more capable SAM systems. That being said I have no doubts that the US Army could develop and field SAM systems that are more capable, even than the future S-500 system. That confidence comes from the fact that our Navy uses the most advanced SAM system in the world - Aegis with SM family of missiles together with the ESSM. The latest Aegis system combined with the coming SPY-6 radar is the only system in the world, naval or land, that can perform ballistic and anti air mission in the same time. All that could be copied and developed for the Patriot replacement. Since that would cost billions of $ and we are in the midst of a comprehensive modernization process, priorities must be developed first. From the nuclear overhaul (GBSD, Columbia class submarines and LRSO missile), to the Next gen air dominance fighter jet, to B-21 Raider and finally a complete overhaul of the US Army's long range firepower. From the longer range howitzer technology to the Precision strike missile meant to replace ATACMS and finally the plethora of different hypersonic systems that are being developed... Priorities, priorities...

[@rolebole8482]

@Anton Smirnov it shot an f117, not with its own radar but with a radar complex around serbia, but did you forget that that plane alone put several hundreds of bombs into Belgrade before it was shot down, and it was shot down via a predictable routine, Serbian spotters in Italy, and lastly, too poor of the weather for fighter escorts and Prowlers (the plane that jams radar)

[@jc.1191]

@@rolebole8482 We also didn't declare war and massively attack the country first. We sent a surgical strike to prevent further war, and it worked out. We potentially could have destroyed the whole damn site first, like Iraq. We weren't into being barbaric.

[@aleksa3025]

@@rolebole8482 none of what u said is true

[@ericama6341]

Remember Saudi Arabia Oil facilities destroyed while protected by US Patriots SAM? 'Cause it didn't work at all against Iran attack. So stop beleiving Dreams ans face the" REAL"...or reality. Don't worry, USA still has GAFA companies...and that IS good.:-).

[@timothy740]

@@aleksa3025 how is it wrong though?

[@jimmay1988]

Just as I suspected. The huge number of missiles many sources say the S-400 can launch never account for what kind of small shorter range variants that are being used. 40N6 is impressive still, but not at the high volume everyone claims. Thanks for all the research you commit to doing!

[@SpiraSpiraSpira]

It’s definitely one of if not the best in the world. I’m not sure I buy the official line of an engagement range against stealthed aircraft of 150km, this seems optimistic. However against conventional aircraft and cruise missiles the S-400 is absolutely deadly with a kill probability of 90% and considering current Russian doctrine (also US doctrine) states that anything worth shooting one missile at is worth shooting two to ensure a kill means the S-400 would put paid to anyone. Current US doctrine against S-400 and similar advanced SAMs are to locate them ahead of time with satellite or drones and then perform a saturation attack on each missile battalion radar emitter using cruise or ballistic missiles at stand off ranges. By saturation attack I mean determining how many missiles a S-400 battalion can intercept simultaneously and then firing that amount +1, which is a very American way to wage war (we beat you over the head with our wallets.) As an aside that is also the current Chinese doctrine against the US Navy in the Pacific - if we were to go to war with China they have a pretty good idea how many anti-ship cruise or ballistic missiles a carrier battle group can shoot down at once so their plan is simply to fire more than that from coastal batteries. It’s a good plan and there really isn’t any defense against it.

[@eliahaj6503]

Cant fighter jets and bombers also fire AS missles?not just coastal batteries?oh and can a surveillance plane guide missiles launched from other systems?

[@SpiraSpiraSpira]

elia haj yes. As far as a surveillance plane, not really. Maybe an AWACS could depending on the datalink capability and the missile’s capability, though. But probably not, even then. Being able to redirect a missile in flight is the same as being able to hack a missile in flight, potentially. Most anti-ship cruise missiles function like this: give it a location (or the oldest ones a heading and distance) and a targeting priority for its terminal guidance radar/sensors, like biggest ship or first contact or for modern ones might have an internal database of ship types, then it goes into seek and destroy mode based on the programming once it gets near the location you programmed in. As far as the coastal batteries it’s because the longest range antiship missiles China has, especially their new ballistic one, can’t be fired from an aircraft. They’ve also got really old and cheap antiship cruise missiles that are too large to fire from aircraft (silkworms) but they have so many of them it’s suitable to mass fire them. Short range anti ship missiles can be fired from their J10s though, so you could expect a mass of J10s doing the same thing but essentially just acting as the first stage, albeit a reusable one, of antiship missiles.

[@jaywhoisit4863]

Michael Munson this is also Iran’s doctrine against the 5th fleet in the Gulf. Saturation attacks using shore, ship, fast attack craft, drones, subs, and mines. Ballistic missiles saturation attacks concurrently on the airbases and army bases in the region. So basically thousands of munitions all fired with minutes of each other. America wouldn’t stand a chance.

[@eliahaj6503]

@@SpiraSpiraSpira yeah and what's also interesting is that in the falkland war the British had a "modern anti air missile that can intercept anti ship missiles sea viper is its name?"but when fired in a salvo to portect a cargo ship(6 missiles maybe)against two exocet missiles they all miss,only one case I know of AS missile being intercepted, not to mention that 20 aircraft shot down way more arg aircraft than all of the escorting destroyers and did most of the bombing on argentinean air bases so destroyers start to feel useless from the start for me not to mention that china would have more aircraft than those on all of the US carriers,I cant 8magine a non nuclear war between the two countries actually happening.

[@SpiraSpiraSpira]

Jay Whoisit Jay Whoisit I am very skeptical of their ability to pull that off. US surveillance would see the preparatory steps and once it became clear of Iran’s intentions the US would preemptively strike. The US wouldn’t let Iran wind up for a sucker punch like that. China has the advantage in that their military is more or less ready to strike like that quickly. The Persians have a good military, especially Air Force, but their state of preparedness is nowhere near pulling off a concurrent attack like you describe without telegraphing it ahead of time IMHO. But I might be wrong, and you are correct in that is their plan. That’s what a US Marine general used when he was the OPFOR commander playing a Iran-like Force in a famous war game a couple decades ago, and it worked exactly how you describe: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWrFYnd9bZuUas0

[@nuadarstark]

Yes, turns out it very much can. And not just right now in Ukraine, Israeli's have been pushing through these no issue in the Middle-East since Russia took a larger part in helping the Syrian government.

[@YorkerEli]

S-400 isnt deployed in Ukraine. Edit: sorry, it was actually used in Ukraine war but not in Ukraine lands, the only wartime it saw was when an S-400 SAM system downed a Ukrainian SU-27 over Kiev, from the Belarus border, very impressive.

[@lainedx]

@@YorkerEli Russian bot

[@YorkerEli]

@@lainedx 🤡🤡🤡

[@emilioalvarez8010]

Israel has a history of owning arabs using russian soviet weaponry lmao

[@СтеванСтаменић]

Russia deployed them just in case, shooting down an airplane is an act of war

[@Dr.Westside]

F-35 sees S-400 , instantly link 16 sends coordinates to closest asset which rains hell on S-400 . it's ridiculous to think that the F-35 would even get close enough to be in danger when it does not have to .

[@freedommaaheng6484]

Awesome video! And great analysis of comparing to other SAMs! Any plans to analyze the S500?

[@goldzen3019]

So S400 is using NordVPN?

[@schlirf]

Its all comes down to WHO is operating the system: Are they current on their training and maintenance? Are the logistics systems for spare parts functioning as intended? And a whole slew of other questions as well. In the end effect its up to the personnel and of which quality they are. Case in point: my beloved M1 Abrams proved to be easy meat in Yemen for the rebels. It is without a doubt a capable system, but the crews weren't up to the task. That human element will always play the most important roll in any conflict.

[@seanmac1793]

Gernerally that is the case

[@denizdogru6073]

Turkey is a battle-hardened nation. Preparation for war is a necessity in this geography. I'd bet on s400's over the f35 fighters.

[@joeblowme5427]

@@denizdogru6073 , lol This article is from Al Masdar News which an Arab anti-Israeli media and they reported how S-400s can't DETECT F-35s, let alone S-300s uawire.org/american-f-35-fighter-jets-turned-out-to-be-invisible-for-russian-s-400-missile-systems

[@redoksaltar7226]

​@@joeblowme5427 funny if you had perfect fighters why you cant sell f35 to Turkey? because we can test two system and if we say s400 able to f35 your 1.5 trillion dolar go to trash.. so dont underestime Turk intelligent.... we are full your bulls*h*t propoganda we bought s400 because platform pass every test and its far better than your expensive junk....

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

@@joeblowme5427 no, it's from uawire, you corporate shill

[@SilvanaDil]

I'd rather be the U.S. (experienced in long battles far from home) rather than Russia or China (neither one experienced at all in long battles far from home).

[@luka5208]

Says a lot about Americans mentality......

[@SilvanaDil]

and capability

[@SilvanaDil]

@Said Ali - Good enough to get Saddam, bin Laden, Soleimani. Meanwhile, China has its hands full with Hong Kong and Taiwan. Russia with Ukraine.

[@kurousagi8155]

The Russians are not so inexperienced with recent combat seen in Syria and Ukraine. You are correct that China has seen very little battle. The most relevant combat that China has seen in modern times is China’s UN peacekeeper deployments. Specifically, China’s Mali deployment.

[@SilvanaDil]

@@kurousagi8155 - Which oceans do you cross from Russia to get troops and equipment to engage in combat in Ukraine and Syria? :-)

[@rmack9226]

Your videos are awesome man. Good shit.

[@Old_Ladies]

I like that the US has camo forklifts.

[@SmartassX1]

Europe even has military tractors painted like that. The military green forklifts and tractors are not just painted green. They are actually manufactured separately from the start. And in many cases civilian forklifts and tractors out-perform the military ones, but the militaries normally buy their vehicles in large numbers and straight from a factory.

[@bigpeenerpeen]

SmartassX1 military stuff usually isn’t picked for efficiency but for how much shit it can take. A military one may be a piece of shit but it won’t break on ya like a civilian one

[@chrisrowland1514]

Until one of these systems shoots down a stealth plane, then it is just like any other system scrap.

[@iiragequitt]

Hey do Egypt vs Turkey! As an Egyptian I'd love to see the outcome since both Armies are close in terms of Quantity and Quality.

[@todo9633]

Same as any system, it needs competent and constant upkeep to perform at full capacity, which it often doesn't get. Reminds me of a story about a Phantom pilot in Vietnam who had far mroe success than others with SRAAMs when they were first introduced because he knew the systems and did his own upkeep on them.

[@davidlisovtsev6607]

in about 5 years we'll see how effective those systems are

[@Kayzef2003]

They would be obsolete by then.

[@ddaazahh8064]

Mr Egusi maybe not obsolete, but work in conjunction with s-500s

[@davidlisovtsev6607]

@@ddaazahh8064 s-500 isn't going to be in MENA in 5 years, and no, the s-400 won't be obsolete

[@MasterDecoy]

so basically "spreadsheet says this is good"

[@mikumikuiyada]

i dont know. im not a big fan of missiles. Missiles are expensive. Terran missile turrets do 20 damage, while air units and battlecruisers may have 200-500 HP and armor. its better to build air units and air-to-air

[@drrohanjacob]

Ha starcraft but they take no population slots

[@VicharB]

"... and a kitchen sink". 😂 Awesome video and analysis.

[@Kayzef2003]

So basically the Russians are the Kings of SAM systems.

[@davidhouseman4328]

@Boris Posavec nope, just different strategy in both attack and defence. Russia attacks on the ground, the US through the air.

[@Kayzef2003]

@@davidhouseman4328 And USA doesn't attack on the ground???

[@davidhouseman4328]

@@Kayzef2003 of course they do, as Russia attack in the air. It's just the emphasis.

[@utubecorporatetroll]

You should do a video on how India SAM system shot down their own helicopter lol

[@KKSuited]

F35 Pilot 1: Hey there's a ground radar, probably a S400. F35 Pilot 2: Yeah I see it. Nothing locking on us yet. Wanna kill it? F35 Pilot 1: Say less my man, say less.

[@YorkerEli]

S 500 is the F35 and F22 killers.

[@KoishiVibin]

meanwhile in the firecontrol station: "hey what's happening?" "dunno. it... it looks like a really big cloud's coming towards us?" "...hm.." "Wait, OH MY GOD THAT'S A LOT OF MISSILES"

[@mrmacias4217]

F-35 gets shit on

[@KoishiVibin]

@@mrmacias4217 given the performance of Russian IADS... well.

[@TheStealthEcho]

​@@YorkerEli yeah the s500 is a russia wet dream like the the WORLDS BEST JETS THE NEWEST RUSSIAN YET cope some more

[@jlspldart]

I do love the fact that your videos get the brain juices flowing :~)

[@Brian-om2hh]

It's a question that can't be answered because it has never been used in actual combat.

[@trankt54155]

exactly....

[@fulcrum2951]

No weapon effectiveness can be answered easily

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

But the U.S. has been practicing with their stealth aircraft against their own world-class radar systems for decades. Without knowing information on either side, we can still safely assume U.S. stealth aircraft are more effective in actual combat than is the Russian equipment which has never tested their systems against advanced U.S. stealth, or if they did, it's very limited in time and access.

[@steves8482]

4: 00 - is Binkov having a stroke?

[@steffenjespersen247]

I don't think anyone can claim the S-300/S-400 is not the best system. Is it good enough to protect against the best stealth jet, that depends very much on the situation. If used in the standard setup shown above with the missiles approaching the stealth target from the front and with the stealth jets knowing what they are approaching, likely not. But think about a scenario where the defender knows that stealth might be used and does some of the following things to ambush the attacker. 1. A Targeting radar + missile truck is hidden like 60 miles closer then the seeker radar, towards the border. When the seeker radar sees the jets the targeting radar will turn on and will now engage the jets from the side/below/behind where the jets are not as stealthy. 2. When engaging stealth, the missiles are programmed to fly up super high first, before trying to engage and will now be tracking the planes from a downward angle, where the jets are also less stealthy (this will cost range, but as they already know a stealth jets will not be engaged at 400km+ it has extra fuel to spend). I think in the end it comes mostly down to who is best prepared on the day and can trick the enemy.

[@kenbowser5622]

I enjoy listening to yer commentary

[@gwyllymsuter4551]

Fair, balanced and comprehensive. Well done

[@vensb8862]

If S400 SAM is the best in the world. Then why are Russian SAM (Surface to Air Missiles) keep shooting commercial and friendly planes the likes in Ukraine, Syria, and Iran mishaps?

[@vensb8862]

@James Bortles Its highly unlikely for a commercial plane to turn off their transponder. In any case, a SAM that cannot distinguish aircraft between a bogie or a "friendly", needs some major rework. Just saying...

[@kidoniran1576]

SAMs don't kill people, stupid people kill people in friendly planes.

[@unwantedvoid1678]

First, Aegis is pretty good for that purpose also. Looks like someone had been forgotten about the incident that happened in 1988 and involved US Navy. Second, in both incidents that happened in Iraq and Ukraine sky, Russian military didn't operate any control missile nore radar complexes.

[@NN-eh1fq]

Binkov, could you elaborate on the given figure ($1.5bn) for the price of 4 batteries offered/sold to Poland in 2018?

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

He's more or less right, I recall a figure of 6 billion PLN (which is a giant loss of our tax money, more needed elsewehre)

[@NN-eh1fq]

Bogdan Bogdanoff From what I’ve read the current contracts are $3.9bn for Romania and $4.75bn for Poland, due to its specific requirements.

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

@@NN-eh1fq They didn't even let us place launchers on our own chassis and we're getting the late col war-era c&c system. What a complete joke.

[@mickeyg7219]

@@bogdanbogdanoff5164 Both Romania and Poland will get PAC-3 MSE, which is a late 2010s tech. It's not just a mere sensor upgrade, but a completely newly designed missile. I don't think any new purchaser of the Patriot want PAC-2 anymore, it doesn't do well against larger ballistic missiles.

[@petergerdes1094]

I still don't understand why the low frequency radar can't be used to guide the missiles in close enough to get their own lock.

[@lolololo2965]

S 500 might do that

[@petergerdes1094]

@@lolololo2965 I wonder if that's also why the PAC3 variant of the patriot has active radar homing.

[@DJEDzTV]

I remember 1999 Bombings in Serbia, when an ancient Russian air defence system took out an F117, and the joke was “sorry, we didn’t know its invisible”

[@jaydee6268]

My recollection was that the F117 was visibly seen following the same route over a period of days which allowed the plane to be targeted with missiles. The US learned a valuable lesson and new respect for this opposition.

[@DJEDzTV]

Jay Dee I suppose that could have been the case, but no matter how you explain, still a good joke:)

[@jaydee6268]

DJEDz TV oh it was no joke, lesson I learned, never underestimate, never become complacent.

[@irseeker9989]

@@jaydee6268 no there were spotters and locals which saw the electronic warfare aircraft not coming and sam saw them only when the bomb bay door was opened, before that, nothing was seen. Also the f117 didnt have systems to tell about the threat. Nowadays f35's can deal with this shit and is better that they dont have electronic warfare aircraft with them

[@skizzik121]

@@irseeker9989 agreed. 35's running as makeshift AWAC for 22's is a pretty potent combo but I assume wouldn't be used in situations like SAM busting