Exactly what I’m looking for as I have no way to access a sonically treated room
@NRVE82 жыл бұрын
It's not perfect by no means, and does not replace a real set of monitors. But it does sound really good
@danson19922 жыл бұрын
@@NRVE8 anything that will inch me closer to a better sound is valuable in my situation
@NRVE82 жыл бұрын
@@danson1992 oh yeah for sure, it's exactly why I just bought them haha
@Kris_jellybeard9 ай бұрын
Just bought them too. Waited a bit for them to be out a few years so the quality of the headphones got better and there were more long term reviews. I work just everywhere I can so these are perfect for planes, hotel rooms....
@Synthesia-ef7hj6 ай бұрын
@@Kris_jellybeardbeen considering getting these so what did you think of them after you got them?
@MOSMASTERING3 жыл бұрын
I've been using them the same amount of time - around 6 months. I've always wanted Barefoot MM27'S as an upgrade to my K&H0300s and this update to version 2.0 is unbelievable. Stevens Mix room with the Auratone and Barefoot it's unbelievable. Best mix I've ever done in a really short amount of time. Indispensible.
@garfieldoliveira14582 жыл бұрын
Please help, just got my VSX headphones but everything seems to be heard normal like a normal headphone, or even muffled n worse, what am i doing wrong here, was so excited to get them, put it on the master channel last in the chain, even the depth knob does not work no 3 d room effect like everyone says, the bypass button only increases the volume but no change in the sound, dunno what im doing wrong please help.
@MOSMASTERING2 жыл бұрын
@@garfieldoliveira1458 are you sure this is your master output insert slot? Why ask here and not support? What daw?
@MOSMASTERING2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what you're listening for? Are you sure it's completely wrong? I mean, it should sound like you're in a room at least! Depth knob is VERY subtle. I can barely tell myself
@mageprometheus3 жыл бұрын
They look good. I would think that the better you are as an engineer, the more you will get from them.
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Fair - but you could really say that about anything!
@securd3 жыл бұрын
Great review of v2 -- thank you for taking the time to do this follow-up!
@MonkeyBars13 жыл бұрын
I love my VSX so much. A total revolution in mixing technology. Also creating the best mixes of my life especially judging low end The update is incredible especially Steven's mono Auratone and the Sonora nearfields which have an incredible mid and high detail great for composing
@leonardojobst67843 жыл бұрын
i use VSX since came out and really my mixes are just you say... my best mixes... and from 3 mix i send to my client only ONE need revision and was for up the guitars nothing more.... to me was the best invest in the last 10 years MIX SOLUTION
@chrisagnew61387 ай бұрын
Can you explain in detail the process of using monitoring fx? How you set it up?
@rhythmantic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@iandeegrees1509 Жыл бұрын
I compensate the lowend with tools like a SubPac (some people use Woojer, which I cant tell you how this performs). But the subpac is the thing which gives you the impression of be in front of 10 pieces of 19" subs (if you decide to drive them like this). It helps me a lot. because I can't raise my subs in my flat.
@Delmarevans Жыл бұрын
Well I’ve been searching for a review on these headphones, and I’m 8 minutes in and have yet to hear anything of a review. I will keep looking !
@RainGodRecordsInc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's an advert and these comments are by shills, yawn. Either that or they really are that stupid.
@jvz7732 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thanks 🙏
@germanviolinista2 ай бұрын
Buenos dias no se cual comprar si senheizer 650 o los vsx slate digital🎉❓😔espero tu respuesta mil gracias🏁🏁🏆
@davetrevino17802 жыл бұрын
I know this is purely subjective. but what are some reference tracks to get a solid feel from these headphones?
@bakedcreations89853 жыл бұрын
Is it only for mixing or can you master with it too?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
You can do anything you want- but best advice is always to send your work to a mastering engineer, at the very least for a second professional opinion and constructive feedback
@limbophonic13 жыл бұрын
Hi the Thomann link doesn't come up with any Slate VSX, they don't appear to stock them?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
No-one is stocking them right now. As soon as Thomann have a pre-order I’ll update it
@TrueGraeve Жыл бұрын
What kind of latency does the software put on the master bus?
@TrueGraeve Жыл бұрын
This is answered below, you can track with them and the software is zero latency.
@anthonyhoffman60523 жыл бұрын
can u track with the software on? any latency issues? ive not heard any info on latency.
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Zero latency, so it’s entirely down to your system
@tmussOfficial Жыл бұрын
great review you just sold them to me.
@garfieldoliveira14582 жыл бұрын
Please help, just got my VSX headphones but everything seems to be heard normal like a normal headphone, or even muffled n worse, what am i doing wrong here, was so excited to get them, put it on the master channel last in the chain, even the depth knob does not work no 3 d room effect like everyone says, the bypass button only increases the volume but no change in the sound, dunno what im doing wrong please help.
@Summersismyname Жыл бұрын
It’s your listening profile you have to put it on a setting 1-3 that works for you. When you put the headphones on move them up and down and you’ll start to hear it’s the way you position them. Also, play a reference track in them first to train your ear. Hope this helps you
@garfieldoliveira1458 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, working great now
@marcclement77903 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Sienna from Acustica?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It was ok but the same issues as the waves offerings. VSX is a closed system so there’s nothing to be fighting like headphones with slightly off-spec frequency curves
@marcclement77903 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer I think Acustica did a profile for the Vsx headphones, which I thought was a bit cheeky, but thought it would be an interesting comparison....cheers for the vids btw.
@RolandDeschain13 жыл бұрын
How would these headphones go as a pure listening device for entertainment?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
They’re ok, but definitely not the best in that environment as they’re designed to be really flat and neutral for use with the software
@BryanPapic3 жыл бұрын
When Slate Digital asks you not to show MKii headphones until they officially announce, and ya do a video… 🤷🏻♂️
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
These aren’t mark 2s…
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Also this videos 2 months old…
@BryanPapic3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha. Your frame grab shows MKii 😉
@deanandthebeans8573 жыл бұрын
Alternatives? Cheaper alternatives?
@MOSMASTERING3 жыл бұрын
Sonarworks or can opener software with any headphones on their profile list.
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Is nothing like this. I came from HD650s with sonarworks and this is distinctly different
@MOSMASTERING3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer he just asked for alternatives. I use VSX and wouldn't change it for anything.
@johnbird99972 жыл бұрын
Can someone lend me some $$ please? (lol)
@RainGodRecordsInc2 жыл бұрын
Just buy the best headphones you can and get on with it. You don't need these, they're overpriced, the profit margins on them are huge, that's why Slate market them so aggressively and make such wild claims about them. Notice you've never heard a truly famous engineer/producer saying that they're amazing and that they can't live without them etc etc. It's always someone you've never heard of and there's a reason for that.
@noway26522 жыл бұрын
Like Mike Dean? :(
@RainGodRecordsInc2 жыл бұрын
@@noway2652 Referee?
@noway26522 жыл бұрын
@@RainGodRecordsInc it’s not an answer man. This man has significantly influenced the industry, fact. I'm not defending the position that this proves the quality of the product, but your statement already sounds less convincing
@RainGodRecordsInc2 жыл бұрын
@@noway2652 Just buy 'em mate, I don't care. It's your money.
@noway26522 жыл бұрын
@@RainGodRecordsInc You're not following the topic of conversation at all :) Have a good one!
@jaydensydes34783 жыл бұрын
I strongly disliked these. Something about my ears just can't cope with any headphones and these weren't a solution :( I'm glad so many people have gotten value out of them though.
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Man that sucks- but I guess there’s no one product that works for everyone! If there was the market would be a lot smaller… I will say that it took me a while to really tune into them, but I’ve seen a few reports of them just not working at all
@chrisschulz2000 Жыл бұрын
"I didn't pay for this promotion" ... That's the newest promotion gimmick. ... Just that makes me not want to buy them, and I have no clue how good/bad they are since I never used them. ... Overly popularized and overhyped. Of course I'm wrong cuz everyone loves them, except the pros it seems. Wheres the old school guys opinions? Surely not the magic wand everyone is looking for to solve the difficulties of mixing/mastering ...
@adamsteelproducer Жыл бұрын
How can staying “I was not paid” be a promotion gimmick? I bought these myself. No sponsors, no promotion. If I say otherwise that would be an outright lie. And if you don’t like something just because it’s popular? Well good luck with your life. I hear oxygen is popular.
@chrisschulz2000 Жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer You bought them because they are popular. Needed to shout out to the world that your purchase was worth your money, cuz the mass thought it was the sh*t. You just did exactly what SS wanted you to do. Welcome to the newest " promotional gimmick" ... As time passes you will know what I'm talking about. SS is a genius at this and you will learn this in time.
@adobedirtblues1321 Жыл бұрын
I bought mine a year and a half ago, and they were the second batch after they ran out and supposedly improved them. I’ve been using them, and I think the software is good, but with light used in just my home studio, (only me) the metal headband snapped. I taped that up and about a week later the other snapped. I have been treating them like they were made of solid gold because I read about all the complaints and they broke anyway. The bad part is the incredibly suck support from Stephen slate. No answer whatsoever to two phone calls and three emails. Nada. A company that has got to be just loaded and can’t afford to take care of its customers over such an obvious defect. This is absolutely shameful. Don’t buy this crap product unless you want to throw away 400 bucks.
@NickTsartsanidis Жыл бұрын
Just bought these out of curiosity. First impression is that yes the build quality isn't great and I see them easily deteriorating or can be easily damanged if you're note careful BUT they do sound great and surprisingly offer good sense of depth, dynamics and image. Ultimately I do prefer to mix with my studio monitors and open back Audeze headphones as I'm more familiar with their sound yet these are great for an "extra reference" to pin point issues in your mix referencing different rooms and comparing them to your reference tracks.
@roberteismann19293 жыл бұрын
If you right click under ear profile you can also select between 3 resonant peak (I think) mid frequencies to hone the profiles a little more.
@SOLDIERNWOBHM13 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam - was dubious re these headphones but after watching your vid have purchased a used pair - thanks for your honest and helpful vids- Ian
@donnythompson4082 жыл бұрын
Because I work with such a wide variety of music styles, (everything from Rock and Pop to Metal to R&B to Classical and Orchestral) I’d like to ask you how you would rate the various speakers/rooms in VSX for their ability to accurately reproduce certain sonic details that are more nuanced and “esoteric” in nature? An example of this would be wonderfully recorded acoustic instruments - something like James Taylor’s acoustic guitar, which always has such beautiful details and nuance… Or, perhaps a cello or violin, (a real one) or, a real jazz drum kit, where the drummer is playing with brushes? If so (and with the understanding that I’m referring to instruments that have been professionally recorded and sound great to begin with), is there a particular speaker/room in VSX that you feel would best represent these esoteric, finely detailed examples that I’ve mentioned above? I’m just curious to know what you think about VSX regarding this. Good video, BTW. I’ve subscribed and liked. 😊🙏
@dansharp9599 Жыл бұрын
I've only spent time learning NRG and Archon studios, but for rock/metal I always use Archon midfields. For RnB or Jazz I definitely prefer the NRG studio. NRG has more natural ambiance as it's a larger room whereas the Archon is smaller and tighter sounding - also the Archon midfields are probably the flattest, most neutral sounding speakers but NRG has the best nearfields IMO For orchestral pieces I've used both but generally lean towards NRG
@jspacone Жыл бұрын
I’m just a newbie, fiddling around in my bedroom. I certainly don’t have the same needs as a pro, but I would like to be able to get good results. I could drop $300-$400 on some monitors, but no more, and there’s no way I could ever make my room sound good. These really seem like a good bet.
@yardleylfc4 ай бұрын
It's the software that makes the headphones as you can replicate different rooms and environments.
@gravity00x Жыл бұрын
short answer, yes. long answer, yes they can.
@mothernightlabel95433 жыл бұрын
Great video. It was the plastic clip around the metal I think - that is what happened to my pair. However Slate sent me a new pair (from US to UK) within 5 days so can't fault it really.
@phillipdrakelive2 жыл бұрын
Composing and mixing/mastering my first movie score. I have a easy setup mobile Studio when I’m traveling (where I do a majority of my producing). This sounds like what I need for my situation.
@adamsteelproducer2 жыл бұрын
I literally just mixed an album in a van traveling Europe. Game changer for traveling people!
@frantiseksvarc16723 жыл бұрын
I don't have acces to trated room and I was eyeing these for some time not. So this video is very helpful. Thank you! One question. Would you choose this over, let's say, HD650 with Sonarworks?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Yes every time. I used to use that exact setup before this and it’s not even close
@frantiseksvarc16723 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Thank you!
@JParryPhotography2 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer hmm, that's interesting. I can't imagine having headphones better than the hd650's and SW. I'm not saying it's not possible, I've just never used anything better so I can't imagine what that vex setup would sound like. So you recommend it still?
@adamsteelproducer2 жыл бұрын
I’ve gone back since. VSX was good but the modelling, whilst really useful, made me doubt myself after years of using one setup
@JParryPhotography2 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer fair enough! Thanks for the response Adam, I'll give these a miss!
@mr.cookie31643 жыл бұрын
This a cool video. I ordered these a couple days ago.
@2ndMOUSEofficial2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Adam. Weird. Saw you yesterday in a Warren Huart video ( He's a top bloke ) , and then got an email telling me VSX was available, so I came looking for reviews as I'm maybe 90% sold on investing in a pair but needed that extra push, and you coincidentally came up in the search results, so whatever you're doing, youtube's algorithim likes it. It's tough to make a decision on these as they aren't something you can demo, and it's a bit of a leap in the dark. At least with a vst you could get a trial and if you don't like it, you haven't lost anything, but your review was very thorough. I maybe should've got these before I got 2 pairs of AiAiAi TMA-2's and acoustically treated my room. Thanks !!
@GianFerreyraBouillon3 жыл бұрын
Yesss finally, thank you!
@PeterSatera2 жыл бұрын
The number of other composers I know that have these, but snap is insane. Daniel James got 5 pairs, all of them broken , even once they are "fixed". (see his review).
@ufkrec Жыл бұрын
It's so easy to hear the problems of a mix with these headphones that makes you save so much time... Literally days of working on a mix... I can't go back to not having this tool.
@40blockstudios60 Жыл бұрын
Lame that they couldn't have a higher grade cable with the money your spending.... cutting those corners.
@newrockorder Жыл бұрын
if it comes with such a shitty cable I highly doubt that the rest is of better quality. I‘m out.
@beautifulmusicchanneluk2 жыл бұрын
Are you able to screw on the adapter for interfaces to the end of the cable like other headphones?
@internalusevids6814 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see the baggie, cable, and stickers held up. 😂 skip to 5:00
@SpiralJucifer2 жыл бұрын
A short, easy answer to the topic question: Yes, because not as many people can spend $10G on studio monitors and still have enough budget to treat and design the room they're in to get the most out of them. VSX are @ $500... I've also found that VSX can improve the mixing chops of beginners and pros alike. VSX and other headphone mixing plug-ins like it are leveling the playing field for mixers.
@dre3809 Жыл бұрын
Stupid question. If you don’t use the software and solely use the headphones as is, would you say they can still benefit someone with a bad environment? I have awesome gear! But untreated room. And a super old version of protools that I just refused to upgrade. That’s why I know I can’t run the software. I know that’s probably the whole point of them. To use the software. That’s why I called it a stupid question. But I’d still love to hear your answer if you didn’t mind! Thanks a lot!
@brendanmccurry4283 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see someone mix the same song on these and also on studio monitors in a treated room.
@CamariMusic3 жыл бұрын
Here's the deal. I am a beta tester for these headphones. What I immediately noticed was my mixes were approved faster. I was able to get more bass out of my mixes. Version 2.0 is crazy good...especially Steven's room. This puts a great monitoring solution in the hands of many. I was going to purchase Genelecs and Audezes before I was made a part of the testing team. I would not even consider those options anymore
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Жыл бұрын
it has to be a "well" treated room, there are plenty "treated" rooms but well treated, very rare. because, thats actual rocket science
@QBellowMusic Жыл бұрын
Would be wild if they did a model of Dr Dre's studio lol
@ThisMichaelBrown2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for both reviews!
@Zephor2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam. Do you put VSX on your master bus or the Monitor FX section in Reaper?
@adamsteelproducer2 жыл бұрын
Monitor FX section. That way I don’t have to load it into every project
@CamariMusic3 жыл бұрын
I'm listening to this using my VSX and this sounds great. You can also right click on the profiles and see more options
@CamariMusic3 жыл бұрын
I've had mine since July... no problems
@adobedirtblues13212 жыл бұрын
Best review yet! I subbed.
@Talib234013 жыл бұрын
Grabbing my popcorn
@gwugluud3 жыл бұрын
Are you close pals with White Sea Studio?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know him. I know who he is
@stevearrowtopknot39213 жыл бұрын
do you use sonarworks at the same time? or just VSX?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Just one at a time, vsx with its own system and sonarworks if I’m using monitors or my hd650s
@thecornycast Жыл бұрын
From what I heard the metal han't snapped. Rather, it was plastic (before they made a change to how they are manufactured). I'm still on the fence. I have Blue Sadie headphones, which are nice, but of course they lack room and monitor emulation.
@RaymanuelMuzik3 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam! Do you still 100% with vsx only?
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I do when I’m at home in studio B, got a replacement set recently and I’m back to using those for mixing. The experience is so efficient with being able to switch that it’s really good for my workflow
@RaymanuelMuzik3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer ok great I am currently using Hd650s with sonarworks because ai trust them more than my room. Debating on getting them.
@one-eye17213 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time wearing 'cans' for an extended length of time. Is there an in-ear set out there that are equivalent in quality?
@expletivedeleted3 жыл бұрын
Simple answer: no. Complicated answer: no.
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Username checks out.
@expletivedeleted3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Oh no, your cancel culture won't work...DOH!
@adamsteelproducer3 жыл бұрын
Seems you’re the one attempting the cancelling, yet here we are...
@expletivedeleted3 жыл бұрын
@@adamsteelproducer Simple opinion, but your first step was to check my channel so you could bag on me or thumb down stuff you never heard. You are the problem, and you know it. I suppose if you knew any professional engineers you could just ask them...as opposed to listening to kids bloviate...ignorantly..on youtube, but I felt no need to tell you that, until now, as you have become abusive and typically youtube.