Can this high-end Gaming PC from 2017 survive todays games?

[@tonkatoytruck]

Adopting the AM4 platform in 2018 was the best gaming PC decision I ever made.

[@TechLabUK]

A great investment, this system alone will take a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and you would get even more out of it.

[@Txm_Dxr_Bxss]

I got an i5 7600K in 2017 because I didn't trust AMD after Bulldozer and the Ryzen 1600 lost to the i5 in contemporary gaming benchmarks.Absolutely worst PC decision I ever made.

[@PinnuskaTV]

Still is

[@tilapiadave3234]

Was almost totally useless for gaming ,, but whatever

[@DatSun.]

@@tilapiadave3234 and what is your proof of that?

[@kurtwinter4422]

One step modernization: install 5700x3d

[@QtheMisanthrope]

Honestly i would love to see the results with a 1080ti and a 5700x3d

[@chrisrawr6177]

Indeed for around $200 you can get a cpu that overall in game testing at 1080p will get you 70% of the performance of the 9800x3d which is the current top cpu. To get similar results from AM5 (or i guess intel if for some reason you actually wanted an intel cpu) is going to be minimum $500.

[@twixysticks795]

@@chrisrawr6177alie express for 130

[@kjellbeats]

​@@chrisrawr6177and you also need a new motherboard and ram

[@side3672]

@@QtheMisanthroperesults will be pretty on par with some low tier modern rigs of today. I play on a 1070, ryzen 5700x & 32 gb ddr4 and get above 80-90fps on most modern titles running native 1080p medium settings. Recently upgraded from an i7 6800k and the difference was +20-30fps alone.

[@PrimeG2]

I built my pc in 2017, EVGA 1080ti 16 gigs of ram, i8700k, MSI Z370 MB and it runs perfect. I have never had any issues with it. I run everything on it.

[@Fabrizio7171]

Stalker 2 entered the chat

[@Domaainttheone]

Can it run cryisis?

[@DropkickJimmy]

Vanilla Alan Wake II says hi

[@twixysticks795]

On low settings of course

[@thevinnieLOL]

always had over 100fps on high on pretty much everything on 9700k and gtx1070 then in 2023 i updated to 5800x3d and 3070

[@titan_fx]

Yeah, I didn't regret pulling my money to buy R5 1600 back then. AM4 really lasts a long time. Heck, I even still using the same board that I bought in 2018. 😆

[@TechLabUK]

Let's hope they make AM5 last just as long.

[@EdepsizProfiterol]

Same here. Using ryzen 2600 and 1070 since 2018. Gonna upgrade to 5800x3d and 5070 ti. I probably wont change mb until ddr6 and am6.

[@tonkatoytruck]

@@EdepsizProfiterol You will love the X3D CPU. A potential 50% increase in gaming performance with the swap of a chip on the same motherboard is what I call a win.

[@sstier48]

​@@TechLabUKunfortunately they're not going to. "Experts" think they might even change next generation (as an am4 adopters I'm not happy with that at all)

[@TechLabUK]

@@sstier48 Will be a bad move from them if they do, AM4’s length of service has been one of its biggest celebrations.

[@rodturner6759]

This was the year I assembled my 8700k, 1080Ti with 32gb ram and my first 1440p monitor.

[@oscarmonlas7067]

I had a i5 8600k + 1080ti for the past 7 years, never had a single problem with it and still runs most games smooth, retiring it when the new series of GPUs gets released, will be gone but never forgotten, spent around 13k hours on high intensity games and still stands.

[@1sonyzz]

had gtx 1080 since end of 2016 till end of 2022, my gtx 1080 was 680usd, in late 2022 picked up open box rx 6900xt for 650usd so got rtx 3080ti performance for cheaper price than my gtx 1080 lol

[@djaybeetoo]

in late 2017 i went for an 8700k and a Maximus Hero X mobo. I was able to run a stable Overclock @ 5.0 Ghz for around 5 years, i went for a 1070, later upgraded to a 3070Ti. Its still my daily PC until 9800X3D's come back in stock.

[@mkrleza]

I just can't get it out of my head. A few months ago, Jay (TwoCents) actually said in one of his videos that you can still use Ryzen 9 5900X for "some light gaming." I was horrified.

[@TechLabUK]

A lot of people, especially larger KZbin channels are in a different world to others. Tech is often on tap due to sampling or exceptional finances so when they say "some light gaming" they mean things like 1080p with a custom setting. Jay was pretty nice about it if he said that about the 5900x because there's many who like to attack videos like this who believe you shouldn't even be gaming unless you can run a new X3D and a new 80/90 class card as nothing else is worth it. Hardware is much more capable than many, who have moved on believe which is one of the purposes of this channel to showcase that.

[@getcarter4dynamo]

@@TechLabUK There paid to say such nonsense.

[@ChucklesMcChuckleson]

I don't even know what to say about stuff like that. Clearly even at 1440p, the 5900x paired with a 3070 or better will get you a very good experience. I don't run Ray Tracing or Ultra++++ settings and I'm sure I'm not alone. High settings and 100-120 frames makes any game fairly pleasant to play.

[@mkrleza]

@@ChucklesMcChuckleson I know. I own 5900X paired with an RX 6800 XT. No issues what so ever.

[@Jwalker76]

@@mkrleza you don't hear people say the Ryzen 5600 is good for just light gaming and the 5900x is no different but it has twice the cores. So if you want to do some video editing a 5900x could be worth getting over a 5600. Especially if you already have a Ryzen system.

[@zDeadHeadFredz]

I got my pc in 2017 with a GTX 1080 asus ROG strix OC edition paired with an I7-7820X on an msi X299 pro with 32 gb ram and it was the best day of my life coming from sony and xbox. The 7820x never bottlenecked the gtx 1080 and still to this day pushes my 4070 at 4k 60 fps, the GTX 1080 and the 7820x were so powerful in 2017 i was running 4k gaming before consoles ever dared even with upscalers lol. Great times my GTX 1080 sits on my desk as reminder of how good life is.

[@edward3576]

Ryzen 7 1700x Was my first cpu

[@TechLabUK]

Noice! I have had this one for a while now, used to be our editing rig and it did really well.

[@GarnetTillAlexandros]

Your first CPU ever?

[@WnDTech]

Sat here in my car watching this video.. sounds great in the car.

[@bumbaclot813]

Same sitting here at 6 am waiting to go into work.

[@jonathanryan9946]

Back in 2017... I had a I7-8700 on a GT 1030 (4gb). It was a Christmas gift, my old gaming computer died (psu fried everything), family was refusing to buy me a gaming computer. So got the best cpu I could get to make the family think it would be a work station, then bought my own gpu the next year a 980. The 1030 is now in my mom's computer, 980 sold. Won a Titan V, which is currently in my system... the 8700 and Titan are pretty good in non-cpu heavy games. So in Space Marine 2 the 8700 is the weakest link, won't go over 60fps in any graphics setting. But in other games the Titan Vs unique and old architecture and poor cooling causes it to hit its thermal limits and crash. So games like Plague Tale Requiem crash after 5 minutes. Yet in games like Spider-Man they run like champions... it's basically like rolling the dice. Hence me upgrading this year and next year. So in a case of history repeating itself... CPU is already here but i get it this Christmas (a Ryzen 7 9800x3d). Then will buy my own GPU next year, but decision not made yet until I get official info. Been saving for months... hoping the 5090 won't be too insanely overpriced but expecting to get the 5080 instead. 😅

[@1sonyzz]

Whole story, woah. In 2017 had i7 6700k + gtx 1080 gaming extreme edition since mid/late 2016, then in 2019/2020 picked up on stable AM4 platform with x570 motherboard and at first it was 3900x cpu with carried over gtx 1080 gaming extreme edition, then in late 2020 picked up 5950x cpu with carried over gtx 1080 gaming extreme edition, and in late 2022 picked up open box deal rx 6900xt arous master and with my 5950x an ultimate combo was born which is what I currently have on asus chrosshair 8 hero motherboard, samsung 990 pro 4tb nvme ssd, 2 x 16gb 3600 cl16 ram and liquid freezer 3 420mm with corsair 7000D airflow case ps. open box rx 6900xt aorus master at 650usd cost me less than new gtx 1080 gaming extreme edition I bought in late 2016 while giving 3080ti/3090 level of performance, lol

[@antonioiozzi9171]

Looks like my actual seven years old PC. All ROG Strix components, Intel I7 7700k, GTX1080, 32 RAM, 500mb SSD, 1 TB hd, Corsair liquid cooling. Later added 1tb SSD for MSFS. It is going to be pensioned because of MSFS2024 but until now was not that bad in 1920/1024 with my 27" Samsung monitor ( died one months ago after 15 years!). The new monitor is an MSI 27" 2k, fast IPS etc etc paid only 150 euro! The old one was paid 800 chf = 900 USD/Euro...

[@Jwalker76]

This was a great look at the start of ryzen. I had a 1700x back in 2018 with a rx 480 and loved it. Would be interesting to see the difference with a better CPU if you have one in your spare parts. If you have a 5800x3d or 5700x3d would be fun to see the difference between 1700 being first gen ryzen compared to the best of AM4 CPUs.

[@TechLabUK]

I do have a 5800X3D in my benching rig so could load up the 1080Ti in that and see what the difference is. I suspect it will be a lot tbh because the 1700 was holding it back quite a bit.

[@Adamgreen735]

@@TechLabUK Oh that 1080ti should be singing at 99% util with a 5800x3d in there, 1700x seemed to be holding that beastly 1080ti back alot.... Big old Neck of the bottles...

[@RobertFixit]

I always wondered when RGB started. Hopefully it will end soon 😂

[@TechLabUK]

@@RobertFixit Well RGB RAM was around in DDR3 but it was often single / tri colour (RGB) whereas the fancy controllable aRGB was more popularised with DDR4 so around 2016/2017.

[@Midori_Ringo]

Cold cathodes were a thing for decades in PCs. It was rare and super expensive but everyone wanted them back in the day. everyone was tired of the boring and dull beige boxes of the 90's. So RGB has always been around in some form or another for at near 25 years. It's just more accessible today because LED is easier and cheaper to manufacture now. It's

[@gamer8622]

Youre not forced to buy rgb. Why should it end? Weird af comment

[@tbfrl834]

Just buy yourself a setup with no RGB bro,don't need to complain.

[@ravipeiris4388]

The introduction of Ryzen processors by AMD is what truly made 2017 stand out ❤.

[@aaldrich1982]

What a great PC. The King of modern cards and the CPU generation that brought 8 cores to the masses. Now this is absolutely nit-picking from me but I'd have expected to see 2 sticks of RAM in that system because Zen1 was known to be rough to get XMP working. But that's irrelevant really - you've really captured a great 2017 build.

[@TechLabUK]

I just maxed out the RAM slots with 32GB of Corsair Vengeance RGB as that was also released in 2017 lol.

[@aaldrich1982]

@TechLabUK tbh all 4 slots filled just looks nicer too

[@TechLabUK]

@@aaldrich1982 Maximum RGB lol

[@jrose-xp6tf]

Lookin' good, squeezing every last frame out...nice.

[@TechLabUK]

Performed pretty well tbh, I can see why people are still holding on to their 1080Ti's and with a better CPU you will get even more out of it.

[@gamer8622]

The best part of this pc is that even though the relative performance of intel made AMD look like a silly choice, adopting AM4 has proven to be financially the best pc choice you could have made. Throw a 5700x3D in this and u have a brand new pc capable of 60fps modern gaming.

[@RandomPCGamer]

That system performed great 😊 thanks for the video!

[@TechLabUK]

It performed a lot better than many would give it credit for.

[@TomAKAsP3ctRum]

2017 was a legendary year for hardware. The Am4 chips could really utilize the new ddr4 with high clock frequency. Had the 1700x back then wich served my until last month

[@Markito09]

Loved the AM4 platform, used my build with a 1700x since 2017 with my gtx 1080. Popped in a 3700x last year and it still works well today

[@AlexHusTech]

Great system still very capable, playing stalker 2 currently, enjoying it even with the stutters & all the bugs etc

[@TechLabUK]

Has lasted a while these things.

[@Atkafası-31]

Yep it will. Throw in some LSFG upscaling and x2 FSR on it and you have a gaming PC for another 5+ years.

[@deman7276]

Bro an i7-8700k and a 2080ti with 32gb of ddr4 ram can still crush a lot of games lol.

[@tbfrl834]

2080ti with i7 8700K doesn't seem a good match for me tho,i was using r5 3500x+2060 super(r5 3500x=i5 9400f) and the cpu was lacking,like an i5 9th gen with 2060 super was still a bit okay,but an i7 8th gen with a 2080ti???

[@deman7276]

@tbfrl834 yeah, not sure why you think it wouldn't work? I literally have a second computer with that exact set up and it runs 1440p ultra settings on almost all games pre 2023 at 100+ fps. My current set up. Is a 4070ti super with an i9-12900k and it's completely fine running 4k at 60+ fps. Intel used to be a pretty damn good chip until they got to 13 and 14 gen.

[@RonanMeade12]

Still running my pc from 2017. I7 8700k, had a gtx 970. Still same cpu to date, with the meshify c. Few years back upgraded gpu to 2070 super. All still runs well

[@JelaniWood]

Yep! My son has an FX-8350 (that's an AM3 Bulldozer CPU from 2012) and a GTX 1050 Ti (another amazing GPU along with the 750 Ti for its time). He plays Madden and FC Club and NBA 2K current year games at 1080/60+ High Settings in 2024 and those are the demanding games. Fortnite, ROBLOX, Rocket League, etc get flexed on his PC at 100's of FPS.

[@tizzi91able]

upgrade the cpu to ryzen 5000 series and you can still game very decently

[@ChucklesMcChuckleson]

The Meshify Design C is a legend

[@marxmaiale9981]

On a similar thought pattern of 'old' pcs, going over the Oldest cpus that can legitimately be upgraded to windows 11, their likely configuration patterns at the time of release to show how it runs today. Necessary updates people should do to to keep the pc useful such as bios updates, what to change from Defaults if needed for windows 11, notes about what should be upgraded if below xxx level for typical use cases with a mind on budget (if someone had funds they would go for new)

[@wargolem2750]

I'm still using the am4 platform. Upgraded to a ryzen 5700x3d and a rx 7600xt I'm doing fine. I can play at 1440p

[@TechLabUK]

@@wargolem2750 A great combination still. Running a 5800X3D in our benching rig still and haven’t found the need to upgrade yet.

[@tortuga7160]

My x370 crosshair has seen it all. 1700, 3600x, now currently 5700x. Not feeling the need to update for a few more "cycles". Swapped out the 1080ti for a 6800xt last year.

[@rizzrabbani659]

My journey with AMD started with a 2200G , which i bought in 2020, overclock the heck out of it for 2 years then upgraded to 3600, which i m still using. And for the final upgrade I'll switch to 5800x3d or 5700x3d(used obviously)

[@patg108]

Truth is that AMD in 2017 was still catching up to 2014 Intel as a 4th gen i7 would outcompete this

[@BobBob-zu2dt]

I think part of the Am4 choice was due to the monumental shift it caused down the line.

[@davey399]

My 2016 I5 6500/16gb/GTX 1070 (£1250) has served me well down the years, as I don't always play the most graphically challenging games. I managed to play, of a fashion, Starfield with a tweak and I can play Stalker 2, just about on low settings. I'm not even bothering with Indiana Jones, I may as well wait til I buy a new rig around March next year, based on Ryzen 7 9800X3d 32gb, probably 5070 ti or even 5080.

[@TechLabUK]

Lasted you a good amount of time. The next one with those specs will be an insane upgrade and will hopefully last the same.

[@jarmusmusic]

Its wild how a 1080Ti outperforms my 3060Ti in Cyberpunk, a very modern game. Just shows how much Nvidias vram greed hinders their performance

[@AlexhPDX]

Still have my Meshify C and B450 ROG mobo. Just upgraded to the 5700X3D to squeeze a few more years out of this killer rig!

[@OhhLJ218]

I still have a fractal meshify c as my build right now. all but the motherboard has been upgraded but it has served me well over these years!

[@peres9559]

TBH if you buy gaming pc now, it will be super viable in next 7 years. You cant say that about previous generations. Now its much more incremental rather then jumps.

[@fakethiscrap2083]

i felt that the i7 7700k would have been better than the ryzen 7 1700x

[@stephenhood2948]

I thought Alan Wake 2 wouldnt run on Pascal or older cards?? Something about Mesh Shaders?? Maybe they updated the game to run on older GPUs??

[@TechLabUK]

No, it was the typical click bait we see from techtubers farming clicks. It's true the game uses mesh shaders and that the GTX 1080Ti doesn't have this technology but like most games it will always fall back onto another API of some description. It does affect the performance using others but it doesn't mean it won't play. We see the same right now for Indiana Jones and people dropping videos about how it won't run on a 6GB card like the RTX 2060 but it's simply not true, it will run, just wont perform as well.

[@bigpanik3261]

I swear that gamers today have it sooooo good. You can buy a $750 PC today...and play games for 5 years plus. Back in the 80s, 90s and 2000's if you wanted to play a game you would spent 2 to 3 grand....and in a year or two it wouldnt be able to play anything. I remember buying a 1st gen i9 with 16 gigs ram and a 256 mb graphics card. by 2011 it woudlnt play anything. lol

[@TechLabUK]

It's great now because of that back catalogue. I know tons of people who throw together £200 PC's and still play 1000's of games.

[@ha17h3m9]

Games peaked in 2016, without watching the video yet, i know it can still run "new" games well.

[@pastelink6767]

If you got the 1700 you put an aftermarket cooler on it and overclocked it. They where excellent overclockers. Mine did 4.1ghz all core. I'm actually using the same system with a CPU upgrade (5800x) and GPU upgrade (from R9 390 to RX 7800 XT). Legendary platform.

[@TechLabUK]

Will have to give that a go on this one some time. Sounds like a good one to play with.

[@scyzorpl]

That's what i like about am4 just change the cpu to 5700x3d and rtx 3070 or rx 7700xt or even the new intel card that its coming out this week and you can still game on it for another few years

[@XuroX.]

Without watching, the answer is yes. My mid range pc bought in 2015 still plays some modern games.

[@TechLabUK]

It does very well, touch and go with the latest releases but generally things are still playable.

[@niezzayt3809]

The scariest thing to ever happened in February 2017 was AM4 x370 Motherboard. Because if you purchased x370, you can still use it and upgrade it to Ryzen 5800x3D just by updating the BIOS. That's an insane support for a socket from 2017 all the way to 2022. Something that Intel never able to do in its entire history.

[@TechLabUK]

@@niezzayt3809 Some B350 boards also support the 5800X3D too. Awesome platform.

[@namecannotbeblank8920]

Man, I built my second ever PC in February 2017, right before the Ryzen CPUs were released. I used the i5 7500 and the GTX 1060 6GB. I taught that GPU was excellent and it kinda was in comparison to what nvidia offers for a comparable price these days.

[@TechLabUK]

The GTX 1060 was a great graphics card, still is for the casual gamer tbh

[@puddleduckist]

Nostalgia🎉🎉🎉 my first gpu I used in my first build was an evga 1080ti ftw3. It was a great gpu!!

[@scousenotenglish2819]

i just built a pc from parts for my son using the ryzen 1700x and the radeon rx570 and it runs all modern games including the latest COD. There is nothing wrong with first gen ryzen. It can be bought for peanuts as can the video card and motherboard. and it runs great using Ghost Spectre windows 11 24h2 on an old asus prime x370 motherboard.

[@TechLabUK]

Great little system, thousands of games will run on it.

[@chris_hertford]

1080Ti was a dream card for me never had one! The mini version from Zotac could do a job in my ITX system!

[@TechLabUK]

Still is a dream card for some I am sure.

[@KFCfn]

Reasons i like smaller people and games cause they are passionate and authentic

[@nicane-9966]

didnt know dibu martinez had a hardware channel, nice content

[@cool_cat007smoove3]

Newer games are more CPU bound, in the past games were more GPU bound. This setup is more for E-sport titles. Stalker is a mess right now to play, so unfinished and unoptomised.

[@HailNihilism]

Stalker 2 was the first game that was just 100% broken for me on my 10 year Intel build. I'm thinking of going to the 9800x3d when they start getting stock. I'm too scared to buy Intel again with recent events.

[@maxdamagusbroski]

My i5 2500k @ 4.2ghz (FOR. TWELVE. YEARS. with the same cheap Corsair H100 "water cooling") can play cyberpunk in high settings just fine, with a 1660 Ti OC. There are games where it struggles, like God of War, and Elite Dangerous, but for the most part I'm pretty annoyed at how little bang for my buck I got upgrading to a modern high end gaming PC.

[@janwitkowsky8787]

Pro-tip. If you like Geforce Founders Edition, you can get black versions is you get the Titans.

[@TechLabUK]

I do like them, tbh I prefer the founders / reference designs of all GPUs. I have some newer AMD ones coming soon in reference design which will end up mounted to a wall one day lol

[@prozekutor]

You should do a retest with an uptaded CPU like 5800x3d or 5700x3d. Keeping everything else the same. Since you test at 1080p, the difference would be massive.

[@TechLabUK]

Sounds like a good plan :D

[@mraltoid19]

Now to get another 5 years out of it. 1700 -> 5700x3D 1080-Ti -> 4070-Ti

[@pitracks]

Can you do a follow up video of this with a better cpu cooler and the max overclock you can get with it. Thanks

[@Ignisan_66]

Luckily majority of so called modern games are garbage slop anyway, not even worth buying so this system should last a few more years.

[@sstier48]

Can play, yes.. but at 1080p with not great 1% lows, but upgrade to a zen3 x3d processor and you're golden

[@paulburkey2]

Just need to drop in a 5700X3D

[@Lacking_something]

If the 1080ti struggles with modern ganes, would that also apply to any gpu with similar (or lower!) benchmark scores.

[@TechLabUK]

Would assume so yeah.

[@Cleb-wf3gw]

Awesome video

[@TechLabUK]

@@Cleb-wf3gw Thanks 🙂

[@InfiNiteCybeRonE]

The gtx 1080ti is literally a feet of engineering being 1 percent better that the regular rtx 4060, even in 2024

[@aliabdullahrizwan6774]

Yep i built a system in 17 its i5 8400 with a bclk oc and a 1060 6gb a very good system that still plays most of the games with upscaling at 40 to 60 and all the fps titles too just fine. Might upgrade to i9 9900k and the 2070 later next year

[@dwaynestimpson5449]

The i5-8600k or i7-8700k would be a much better experience. Ryzen was in its infancy, and people bought them for the core count, but performance was still lacking.

[@andi346208]

Games just starting to come out now that need hardware ray-tracing. Knew it would happen though 10 series cards have had a long run. Also, there's areas in Stalker where that 1st gen Ryzen is going to chug hard.

[@Fadingfool]

Still using my PC from 2017 (though recently changed the 1080Ti to a RX7800 XT).

[@Mohammad_E89]

I built similar system back in 2017, R7 1700, 16GB ram, 1TB ssd... but instead of 1080ti I have rx580, for total around 1000$. I think rx580 is better pair for R7 1700. I'm a casual gamer, so the system is still prefectly fine for me. No reason to upgrade soon. I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima these days. Getting average fps around 75.

[@TechLabUK]

@@Mohammad_E89 Nice!

[@kevinm3751]

I built my PC in 2018 with a 2070ti and all I have done since is increase the ram and it can run all todays game titles on high settings with no issues at all. I did opt to use the 2066 chip set instead of the wanna be PC hardware using the 1700 chip set which out classes that amateur hardware all day long.

[@ZackSNetwork]

That GPU does not exist.

[@Adamgreen735]

2070ti i dont think thats even a thing my guy.... didnt exist... maybe u mean a 2080ti....

[@robertsamuel1994]

Would you say that when playing these modern games, do the graphics look better or worse than the games this GPU had to handle in 2017?

[@TechLabUK]

Depends on the games tbh. A lot of modern games do look much better than old games even at their lowest settings so you still get improvements. Some older games have just latest the test of time when it comes to graphics, a lot of the Battlefield games BF4, BF1, BFV etc look stunning still compared to many new games.

[@onur1076]

Im still using the computer I builded in 2015. Intel 6700k, 16 gig ddr4 rams. I only upgraded my GPU to 4080 Super. ( no, I don't care about bottleneck )

[@j-cuts9396]

I still have that case with an i9-9900kf and a RTX 2070. Great casecwven today

[@TechLabUK]

It's an amazing case, the one in the video was my old case, I upgraded to the Meshify 2 a while back but love to keep this one around as it's great quality still.

[@melo0736]

I feel like a 3.9 ghz overclock would help a little

[@IHazPeppers]

Please can you do a part 2 where you test even more demanding games like, Avatar, Black Myth, Indiana Jones.

[@rodrigo4379]

im still using an i5 8600k and a 1080. still rocks pretty well on games

[@TechLabUK]

That’s sweet tbh, love it when people are still running older generations and loving it.

[@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390]

Zen 1 has always been to slow for the 1080 Ti, was to be expected, especially in Space Marine 2

[@CROWNZI]

Pretty sure back then Intel was comfortably ahead in gaming, i was expecting your system to have a i9 from that time, still the FPS is pretty good there.

[@RuruFIN]

I have one unused Wraith Spire RGB, got it with the used R7 2700 bought cheaply for a project.

[@ToasterAlley]

what get a ryzen card from 2017 when it 17 8700k was the best card on market???

[@gamerkid2329]

My pc basically is a pc from 2017 even though I built it in the 2020’s I7 8700 GTX 1080 32 Gb ddr4 2667 ram Only sata drives

[@SlowHardware]

Problem is, ryzen was not on top in 2017, dispite the core count the 7700k was a better cpu and intels x299 platform went up to 18 cores and also destroyed amd in gaming. It is interesting to see the 1700 in 2024 but its definitely holding back the 1080 ti in some of the games

[@SlowHardware]

I'm not against ryzen btw, I've had a 2600, 3700x, 5800x and a 5900x

[@TechLabUK]

It wasn’t the fastest, it was just the year it was released which paved the way for the AMD comeback which made it special in that year.

[@SlowHardware]

@@TechLabUK oh I 100% agree with you there, would you be interested to see it tested with the first i9? My system is a 1080 ti with an i9 7900x @4.7ghz and 3733mhz C15 ram in quad channel. I could test some games if you're curious 😊

[@TechLabUK]

@ sure, join our discord server (Link in all video descriptions) and share some results.

[@SlowHardware]

@@TechLabUK I will!

[@Blaquegold]

Everyone is always looking new and shiny. My son has a 9900k with a 3070 and I have a 10850k with 3090. My goal is to have these for another 2 to 3 years. I like pc building, but as you get older in life you realize that if something still meets your needs, why upgrade?

[@TechLabUK]

Same as me really, I stopped chasing the next thing a long time ago. now I only really pick up new stuff for the channel.

[@bearde_mut9731]

AM4 pre 3000 series (basically before 2019) isn't worth considering nowadays. Back in 2017 Intel was the go to and had this truly been an all out build you should have gone with the i9 7920X as that would have balanced the 1080Ti quite nicely and offered much better performance even now. I made the complete rookie mistake of buying into the BS hype around Zen back then and bought a 1500X. Also wasted money on a 1050Ti, the second most disappointing Ti after the 4060

[@namelessdays9020]

built my pc in like late 2017 still running it 1070 i5 8400 16gb ram and shes done me well to this day but i just bought all my parts for my new build going to a 7600x3d a 3080 and 32gb of ram

[@TechLabUK]

Pretty decent upgrade tbh, your will be impressed.

[@imo098765]

While this is a high-end PC, the 1700 would probably run worse than an i5 of the time. Something like an 8700K would perform closer to a Zen2 CPU

[@jordan-mn6yy]

pc case with a glass panel should not be called "meshify". glass panels bottleneck the airflow when metal mesh panels allow hot air from the gpu to escape without affecting the cpu air intake too much. I honestly find it repulsive that it is so difficult to find mesh panel cases nowadays.

[@guywithnohouse.6808]

wait but red dead redemption was entierly not that deep when ur comparing to "modern" titles. I mean the game came out basically the same time the rig was still at it's most popular to get, I know back then I was planning to get a 1080 ti 100% I settled for the 3060 ti tho and opted to get a ryzen 5 5600x later. Honestly though, even right now the 1080 ti is a great choice, why? because it literally just has a gigantic bus, hell of a lot of vram, and if anything it can still absolutely crush most graphical effects today aside from ray tracing because graphical effects just have not changed all that much. To me it really isn't all that surprising that this machine can even run stalker at medium graphics, if the game was actually optimized/ if you played anything that's actually well optimized nowdays and is modern, you'd probably see that hey! the hardware nowdays isn't really even needed if you still game at 1080p. It's just funny that more, and more, and more developers opt to be lazy instead of just actually pushing optimization of the highest degree to their games, that way we wouldn't even need to increment performance that much, in fact, I am sure most of the "realistic" performance increment that we really needed was back when the 30 series came out, which is also coincidentally the last actual decent generational gpu release. But anyhow, it's mega funny how the 4060 ti can run a 128 bit bus and that the 1080 ti runs 352 bit, and what's more hilarious is that some people think the 4060 ti is better than it's last generational friend, but it's not, literally the only thing that it has for it is frame gen, the 3060 ti somehow has a 256 bit bus. Ngreedia and fellow devs are trying to force feed us this bullshit and the 1080 ti not being obsolete by 2024 is probably their biggest fucking nightmare.

[@TechLabUK]

RDR2 was released in 2019 so within the 5 years we usually gives games the "Modern" branding and everyone asks us to feature it all the time so it made the cut.

[@frankshaw2057]

With a slight jump up to a Ryzen 5 2600X or 7 2700X would make a large improvement. A Ryzen 5 3600 would be huge. The gaming effeciency jump in the 2000 series was massive.

[@TechLabUK]

@@frankshaw2057 Sounds like a good follow up could be a quick CPU upgrade just to compare the results.

[@frankshaw2057]

@ That’s what I was thinking.

[@TechLabUK]

@@frankshaw2057 Our benching rig is near identical to this system in terms of RAM and AM4 except it’s on a B550 board with a Ryzen 7 5800X3D so might drop the 1080ti in that and see what the difference is. Or maybe pickup a 5700X or something.

[@frankshaw2057]

@@TechLabUK What was the speed of the ram in PC? I didn’t catch it when I watched. 2000 series and above loves 3200. 2400 holds it back.

[@TechLabUK]

@ 3200 MHz was what was running in this system.

[@bauer9101]

Indiana Jones is probably the first game it can’t do at all as it requires ray tracing.

[@TechLabUK]

Looking forward to picking that game up tbh, might keep this system together to see exactly what happens.

[@mr.savage778]

​@@TechLabUKon an rx 6600 which is listed as minimum it runs not so great , with medium-low it get 40-50 FPS and it does not even support FSR or DLSS. The static resolution scaler is plain bad, better to drop native resolution to 900p. Otherwise besides the performance the game itself is great 😃

[@bauer9101]

@@mr.savage778 I understand FSR support is on the way.

[@milanbajic242pcchannel]

Can it run Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (Crysis), great video, thanks TechLabUK.

[@TechLabUK]

@@milanbajic242pcchannel Not sure, don’t have the game yet lol. Will see once I get it

[@milanbajic242pcchannel]

@@TechLabUK For now NO (GTX 1080TI), game forcing RT and only RTX 2000+ and RX 6000+ cards can run it. I have RTX 2070 8GB, 32GB RAM, R5 5600X, all on max only Textures on Medium, DLLS Q, 1080p, avg 75 FPS.

[@nsmilitia]

1080ti was the best investment

[@psttech4290]

2017 had the 8700k, that was a good amount faster than anything amd. single core was about 30% faster before any oc

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

I think it suffices to say the first Ryzen series didn't age well at all. It bottlenecks the 1080ti pretty hard in Stalker 2 and a 1080ti without a bottleneck already gets low fps in the game.

[@TechLabUK]

Yeah, didn’t help it much. Wasn’t 100% sure what would happen but now I know lol

[@Heitorr]

and you can upgrade to a x3d

[@tilapiadave3234]

Great for those that lack the ability to change a motherboard

[@skorpysk]

buying a 1080ti, was the best decision of PCs i've ever made also, the EVGA Design of it (The FTW3) is just really good, i don't use it anymore, while it still did produce a good amount of FPS Nvidia is slowly but surely crippling it, to force you to upgrade, cuz the NVENC encoder on it, was slowly getting worse and worse, to the point it was unusable basically at some point.

[@TechLabUK]

Shame we won't see another EVGA card again :(

[@SlowHardware]

AMD has come so far since this chip! The 7800X3D and 9800X3D are insane!

[@tilapiadave3234]

Well they very much needed to

[@SlowHardware]

@tilapiadave3234 100%

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@SlowHardwareYeah I have a 9800X3D paired with a 4070 Super FE.

[@thedonvon4507]

@@ZackSNetwork i have the same build but with a 7800x3d and its runs tarkov above 200 fps .

[@PerfectImperfection64]

I have a 2600x, 8GB RAM and a GTX 1050ti and not seeing these numbers

[@thejaydex.]

People who got theirself a AMD CPU really made a great decision back then. I mean they can just upgrade to the 5700x3d and even the 5800x is a great CPU today. I invested in the wrong company xddd