Can Vingegaard Beat Pogačar at the Tour de France 2025? - Season Predictions

[@laszlovanholder8904]

The biggest question of them all.. will we see Benji Naesen in the Turbo Cross 3.0? If not, how many subscribers does he need as a challenge to do it after all? 😁😁 enjoyed your commentary there Benji! You're a good youtuber :)

[@BenjiNaesenTV]

I may or may not have received an invite for next year’s edition. 👀

[@laszlovanholder8904]

@@BenjiNaesenTV #Justsayyes 🤩

[@RayAdamson]

13.5 mins of Benji's talking pace is 45 mins of LR/Patrick.

[@NeoSavesLives]

Yes, but this guy talks like a robot. And can not be part of conversation. Its so annoying in the podcast when he just cuts Patrick and talks like 3 minutes and completely moves out of topic already. He does this thing, where he asks a question and then answers it by himself. Not a big fan of him in the podcast, rather listen him to these monologs…

[@simontaylor8880]

Agreed, the women's tour was largely much more interesting and exciting than the mens last year. Cant wait for this years season to start.

[@nik-ne3ep]

when pogi wins everyone says jonas will never beat him again, when jonas won everyone said pogi will not win next year....

[@thomasaktor6867]

I think it is worth remembering a couple of things about Jonas/Pogi situation. 1) The gap in 2023 was larger than in 2024. 2) Even if Jonas did his best W/kg numbers in 2024 (on select stages), his overall performance over 3 weeks was worse than in 2023. 3) His absolute power was also significantly lower and they were going at speeds where draft definetly matters, and was basically riding with Pogi in his wheel the last week and a half. 4) Jonas was lacking both the acceleration and endurance he has shown previously and you could see him getting emtpy instead of getting stronger towards the end of the tour. All in all I think it is very hard to say both who would have won last year and who will win in 2025but I think it will be very close.

[@matejstankovic9843]

If neither is injured, Pogacar. He was already climbing better than Jonas in 2023 on a few occasions during the Tour without a perfect preparation and carrying the wrist injury. Jonas was not climbing better than Pogi on any climb this year Plus, in the past 2020-2023 Pogacar had weaknesses that could be targeted and exploited. Now he doesn't

[@chrisridesbicycles]

@@thomasaktor6867 Plus Visma didn‘t exactly had the A team on the start line to ride loads of kJ in everybody‘s legs before the mountains even start.

[@willchekal1112]

Yes this is what I keep telling people. Although he had crazy performances last year overall over the three weeks he wasn’t at as high a high level

[@J-cz7yv]

So yes the gap was bigger but the gap really came from 1 day where Pog bonked. Jumbo was not even setting pace when Pog got dropped. Other than that it was 1 minute from the TT the stage before… So yes the time gap was bigger for Jonas in 23 but the dominance was bigger for Pog in 24.

[@rafalpruszynski6129]

You should watch the 2023 Tour again. Tadej and Jonas were equal except for 2 days. The ITT and when Pogačar bonked. Other than that, it was equal. There was no point in 2024 where they were equal

[@DKSprocket]

One of the most exciting Paris-Roubaix's I've seen was the 2024 Women's Roubaix. That also happened to be one of the most unpredictable one day races in a very long time.

[@BenjiNaesenTV]

That race was really good, right until the Velodrome. Absolutely loved it.

[@maesmats8152]

I'm really hoping to see De Lie make a step up in the classics this year. Almost feel like the last two years were trailers of his full potential and we're just waiting for him to be in optimal form at the right time.

[@DixoDixo123]

You're looking in great shape, Benji! Keep up the good work, mate!

[@illukka]

nice catch on Paul Magnier! I am expecting huge things from him!

[@no-haw]

I think Jonas only has a chance of winning tdf if he gets a better team constellation than last year. Sepp Kuss Nees to be there

[@J-cz7yv]

We’ll see how sepp looks this year but he might be washed up now.

[@TheGotoGeek]

@@J-cz7yvHard to say. He caught covid at the Giro, and was clearly still feeling the after effects at the Vuelta. If it’s a long covid case he may indeed be washed.

[@daberstedt8219]

Predicting Emu Buchmann as the 2025 TdF-winner is surely a hot take but I like it!

[@Second247]

9:22 I disagree a bit. Canyon-Sram has had some investments in their 2025 team which can help Kasia both in mountains and flats much more than in previous years. If Kasia gets better at time trialing that would be major boost for her. Demi has been in absolutely strongest team for past two years (...well yeah...), now it might be that playing field is much more level (...i mean, Wiebes might still crash her out in 2025...). Sure Demi is still the strongest, but i don't know which team can field best combination of riders to support their GC rider.

[@LoranMaes]

De Lie for sure had Lyme disease and that shit makes you tired. I'd say it became mentally because of the disease

[@thabooo7882]

What do you expect Lotte kopecky to do in the tour. And what do you expect from some youngsters who make the step up, like Behrens, TTT, Philipsen, Torres, Widar, Del grosso etc

[@marketingcoelho2058]

From a guy that watched all the Armstrong years, nowadays racing is so much interesting even with dominance. The main difference is that everyone can crack, everyone can have bad days. Back on time 90% of the cyclists were machines. Poor french guys that tried to play fair and won nothing.

[@HarryFunmaker]

Which race would you rather watch in person, Flanders or Roubaix? Roubaix is my favorite race on TV, but there are some arguments for why Flanders would be better in person.

[@rosstoellner9199]

As a USA guy where can I watch many of these one day races? Usually I would just watch the tour but after watching more of your videos I am in need of more.

[@katiesays]

Max and FloSports but with FloSports, you need to use a vpn (set to Canada) most of the time.

[@notmineorder9849]

I think it’s shown on max in America

[@MikeStarr1000]

You need 3 in USA for full coverage: HBO Max (BR Sports) Peacock Flobikes

[@mortigard]

Legally, you can pay $150 for a yearly subscription to Flobikes, plus a VPN and you'll get most of the races. A subscription to Max will get you access to some live races, but not a lot of on-demand content. The alternative is to find illegal live streams with spotty quality.

[@GD-vv2ko]

You cant really watch live but Tiz Cycling has all the racing

[@tiagoamendoeira4320]

4:54 João Almeida was already with covid there so he wasnt fit to do anything thats why he didn't work. Great video btw

[@MacMasore]

Remco isn’t going to leave QS

[@Legionarivss]

Not today, not tomorrow. But end of the season, more likely. At the end of his 2026 contract? Highly likely. He could almost double his earnings. On top Roglic will be gone by that time. Specialized+more money.

[@czeckson74]

00:18 2023 or are you talking 2024 ?

[@BenjiNaesenTV]

I’m talking 2024. Person who asked the question accidentally wrote 2023.

[@marokio1]

What abot Biniam Girmay, Jasper Philipsen, Dylan Groenewegen for the best sprinter in 2025?

[@gurjotsingh8631]

Most people when they talk about Jonas and Pogi in 2024, they seem to only talk about them and their performance and we miss talking about the team. Pogi had a much much much better team this year, jumbo didn't at all. So Jonas does have a very real chance in 2025. Although I am a pogi fan, would love to see a head to head clash with the entire teams in form

[@TheGotoGeek]

Jonas really wasn’t helped by Sepp’s covid case.

[@NeoSavesLives]

How much would’ve Kuss changed this years TOUR result? For me makes zero difference.

[@mcrapps1981]

not being critical at all but i love watching you on LRCP and i feel like that's you. This looks like you got youtube enthusiasm training or something. Pace and arm movements are very distracting.

[@karl8805]

Now pog has a team i honestly believe all being equal(no crashes etc) that jonas never wins another TDF

[@RayAdamson]

I had the same opinion last season, but the other way. Pog massively improved, perhaps Vingegaard has that improvement in his physiology. Unlikely, but if he closes the gap, it will at least make for more existing racing.

[@eliasvaltmee]

5:49 I feel like Bini gets no love

[@claire2088]

Bit late to worry about upsetting the danish viewers Benji 😂 should we not mention when you said on LRCP?

[@ragethomas]

WVA comeback and wins 4 WT races and a monument. Mvdp becomes MTB WC. Mateo Y wins 2 WT stages

[@nahomdeco]

why bini succes in tdf not mention but others if they win 😂😂😂

[@BenjiNaesenTV]

Bini had a fantastic Tour de France but he’s still a Tier 2 sprinter, a very versatile one though. Milan, Merlier and Philipsen take 10 sprint wins per year and are competitive all year. They are the 3 top sprinters.

[@jeroen7800]

hahaha i made the same hot take: ben oconner will not top 5 gc in GT... but i also say he will not win 1 GT stage

[@zMarsIsCool]

🔥

[@space.youtube]

Maybe go easy on the stimulants before shooting videos in this format. 🤪

[@chrisridesbicycles]

Pogi will not beat MvdP in RVV. He did before but that was not the outrageous monuments Mathieu we saw this year and on the cobbles he is a class of his own. Lotte Kopecky will not win MSR because Cédrine Kerbaol does a nuclear descent from the Poggio and stays away.

[@wukalea]

He was the strongest on RVV two years in a row, won one of those, and Pogi will not beat MVDP for what reason? It can go either way for sure, but surely Pogacar can also beat MVDP, he is the best rider in the world by far, no one can match his motor and power.

[@chrisridesbicycles]

@ I‘m not saying Pogi has no chance but it is by far not as „we don‘t even have to start the race“ as Benji and Mr. Rouge tell us. Also, UAE might be the best team in the world but in my eyes that is mainly for gran tours. In cobble races, Alpecin is looking very good.

[@BenjiNaesenTV]

@@chrisridesbicycles Where in this video (or ever) did I say 'we don't even have to start the race'? I simply made a prediction that Pogi would win RVV. I certainly don't have the opinion that RVV is a pre-decided race when Pogi and MVDP are both at the start.

[@chrisridesbicycles]

@ It‘s in quotation marks (airquotes) for that. Of course you did not say that, it just comes across like that a bit. I think all competitors are very underrated based on the 2024 season. The many crashes in the classics led to riders being called up as a replacement and doing races where they were not the first choice which had influences on the races that were their plan A at the beginning. UAE and MvdP on the other side had a super clean run which has for sure to do with preparation but also with luck. (things like finishing Roubaix without a puncture for example still need luck)

[@Lion-wd1px]

fingers crossed MVDP can put a fourth RVV to his name

[@stanleyrosella7042]

I just hope I will not be watching a repeat of the Lance Era. Guess everyone know what I am refering too. Those that were around in those years and even earlier remember how it looked. If a whole team been taken under the care of some dubious trainers/doctors this time it will be a new US Postal Service, or Telekom. Festina, Gerolsteiner. It was ugly those years and many (sadly even me) vouched there were no foul play. In the years after it became obvious so 5 years down the road we might know about 2024-25. Fact is that this sport have sadly been scared over the years and if someone believe it's 100% clean they must think twice.

[@GaiusPrimusMatius]

U can still change the sport and watch something else....

[@stanleyrosella7042]

@@GaiusPrimusMatius Not think I can change !! 🤓 the sport on my own mate, but yes watch something else and just give in that it might be lost yet again.

[@toreycahn9543]

Do you think an American will win the Tour in your lifetime?

[@Omeiden]

Your content is high enough quality, no need for these super click baity thumbnail

[@martincarstensen8527]

I think 2024 Pogi had beaten a 2023 Jonas. I don't think a healthy Pogi will ever lose a TdF against JV again unless something unexpected happens. Pogi has improved to a level that Jonas can't match.

[@Murda2615]

Visma doesn’t have the team to keep him in the fight. And 1v1 Tadej is much better

[@niklashentze8114]

If you think jonas was at his best ever last year because of 1 performance on a climb is absolutely ludacris, he was far inferior in 2024 compared to 23 and 22. Otherwise he would't have gone down on the day even remco beat him. He will win the tour this year, and im sorry benji naesen the danish hater, jonas will win the tour, mads will win roubaix, cry about it.

[@wukalea]

He was not far inferior in 2024, but you gotta tell wtv it makes you feel hopeful. Anyway, pray for Pogacar not be on the same level of 2024, otherwise Jonas will lose every single time to Pogacar from now on.

[@J-cz7yv]

lol nikla what are you smoking

[@nazgulzg]

@@J-cz7yv Nikla is probably watching TDF only so Vingegaard is the best. Any one day races? Any WC? BTW I really hope Jonas will be even better so we don't look one man show but even you know that Pogacar is better rider in every way (check UCI points, and not just this year but in the years Jonas won TDF - was 4th 2022, 3rd 2023 - Pogacar won that every year).

[@savagepro9060]

Yes, Vingegaard can beat him. But there is this --> Jonas Vingegaard has voluntarily enlisted in the Danish military in quest of protecting Greenland from a certain Western Tyrant. Upon hearing this, Pogacar’s reaction was --> “ Yesssssss😚”

[@Swakke-f2s]

OK

[@martincarstensen8527]

Haha that's BS

[@JamesBoz]

I think it's more the case of can Pog beat Vinegar & I'm a Pog fan.

[@rafalpruszynski6129]

Pog will easily beat Vingegaard.