Can We Beat Sonic Adventure DX ONLY Using Sonic?

[@Onaterdem]

Tails' character arc: "I don't need Sonic! I'm capable on my own!" Sonic: *Clears Tails' stages for him*

[@metal_pipe9764]

Tails was the one who placed the rings everywhere.

[@5h3i1ah_and_Nik0]

{froggy in big's levels getting replaced with the collectible froggy from gamma's emerald coast is actually a feature of the character select mod, normally he's just in his normal state and is impossible to interact with outside of fishing. and i'm guessing most Big levels are too gutted to have any alternate clear condition, emerald coast especially since it's an entirely separate third act that's built off the first act. that being said, i think it should be counted as an honorary clear of the levels, as otherwise you reach the entirely uninteresting and obvious conclusion that nobody else can beat big's levels.}

[@5h3i1ah_and_Nik0]

{and to add on to this, i think the E-series robots are normally entirely untouchable without gamma's lock-on shots (edit: checking charriii5's video on trying to beat the whole game as Big, apparently specifically knuckles can damage the E series robots?? and nobody else can??? wild. this includes Beta, but Zeta has an invisible wall around him, so even if knuckles can trigger Zeta's hurtboxes, it doesn't matter because the hurtboxes are unreachable), the fact that you can damage them at all is another feature of the mod. similarly though, imo these should count as honorary clears, because the alternative is once again an uninteresting and obvious "no" for anyone else attempting gamma stages}

[@vanillacoldspore]

@@5h3i1ah_and_Nik0 I messed with it before with a much earlier version of the mod, and I think I was able to damage them as Sonic. Though, from what I remember, the only way I could do so was with the orbs that appear when charging the Light Speed Dash.

[@5h3i1ah_and_Nik0]

@@vanillacoldspore ohh interesting, maybe that's also vanilla behavior?... maybe only projectiles(?) rather than player hitboxes can hurt the E-series robots? are knuckles's punches projectiles?

[@vanillacoldspore]

@@5h3i1ah_and_Nik0 Honestly, I'm unsure. I think I remember those effects also electrocuting Zero, but that's very possible to be me misremembering. I haven't messed with Sonic Adventure like that in a long time.

[@100Darkspine]

Now that you mention it, I wonder if those extra rockets in Speed Highway and Red Mountain are a part of the character select mod as well?

[@Awesomesauce_Luigi]

6:11 “Luckily we got lucky” - Epic Duskk 2024

[@EpicDuskk]

god damn it I literally spotted that and thought it was weird in editing and was gonna edit around it but then thought "nah its fine nobody will think its weird"

[@SwitheKun]

funnily , it was funny

[@lezzdenden]

The good news is, that type of stuff gets a chuckle. I doubt anyone would leave a dislike and click off over it😂😂

[@demongamer_IX]

2:15 Meanwhile: Big: SWEET MOTHER OF GOD, FROGGY WE NEED GET THE FUCK OUTTA’ HERE!! IF THE FROSTBITE DOESN’T GET US, THE PRESSURE WILL!!!!

[@mochigobbler]

Underrated opinion, the story of sonic, sonic, sonic, sonic,sonic are not as good, but close enough to Sonics story when it comes to gameplay

[@EpicDuskk]

That is a really hot take. I dont really care for Sonic's story, but I do like Sonic, sonic, and sonic's story. Of course we all know Sonic levels are the best, but I like the variety!

[@mochigobbler]

@@EpicDuskk yeah sonic's fishing levels were never good

[@kyla_kylington]

@@EpicDuskk sonic solos sonic

[@cashbrady4074]

sonics story is mid but i like the new mechanics and vibe and ui of sonics story are objectively better

[@cashbrady4074]

@@kyla_kylington NO SONIC SOLOS SONIC HE HAS MAXIUM SONIC HOMING ATTACK ATTACK!?1

[@skoopercantdraw]

"Definetly no big the cat, just our favorite blue rat" that rhyme was SMOOTH

[@QuakeGamerROTMG]

Finally a REAL Sonic Adventure, no more false advertising where you don't even play as Sonic for half the game!

[@dragonick2947]

I want "collision is a privilege that can be revoked at any time" to be on my epitaph. I'll need it for when I fall through the floor!

[@BrettKolb-o9n]

Yeah no kidding that sentence is really funny, and I want that that line on a T-Shirt just to mess with people, like how intimidating would it be to see someone with the line. Like what does “Collision is a Privilege that can be taken away at any time” even mean. Are they god, can they send me through random floors, or are they just messing with you, because 99.99% of the time it would be a joke, but what if it’s not

[@astrlexprssfam]

this truly is the sonic adventure

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

How "Sonic's stupid friends" people want Sonic to be

[@deepseamuse]

Can't believe Sonic had to do all his friend's jobs for them, they must be so lazy (Jokes aside, you, Axl Thunder, and Gpro did an amazing job! It's surprising just how close you can get to beating every level...)

[@EpicDuskk]

Its so hard to find good help these days!

[@SilverAegis39]

Intro: can we beat the game with only sonic? 30 secs later: there are some prerequirements like digging for the silver statue... Ah, so you can't. Alright case dismissed! (Still watched for the enjoyement)

[@EpicDuskk]

well the enjoyment in figuring out what he can do was the whole point lol. Thats sort of the point for all these challenge videos. If I just wanted to share the answer it'd be a twitter post.

[@SilverAegis39]

@EpicDuskk oh totally, i just found it funny that right at the start you said he couldn't. It's more of a "how far can sonic go on his own" Btw, nice vid. I didn't know about the light dash spin dash thing you did.

[@deltamachine343]

0:16 I am not a rat! I'm a hedgehog!! HEDGE - HOG!

[@Caioviski795]

@@deltamachine343 hedog

[@gnbman]

Nobody tell Tails about this. It would hurt his self esteem.

[@Waterbottle116]

let’s def not tell lost world tails lol

[@TheRiddler6129]

Modern Sonic Games be like:

[@EpicDuskk]

For real, I miss playing as other characters. Frontiers DLC was actually so fun because I got to use the other characters for once

[@Nerdlee-27]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@EpicDuskkAnd I’m Glad they got rid of the Mech stages ENTIRELY- they were literally dookie💩

[@EpicDuskk]

@@Nerdlee-27 skill issues

[@ros9764]

@@Nerdlee-27 i actually found the Eggman stages okay, the pyramid level where you hop between moving platforms has always been a very memorable level

[@SkulkOfRoses]

@@ros9764 agreed, besides Eternal Engine, I found all of the mech levels genuinely pretty fun once you get the hover upgrades

[@wasdwazd]

More like, Can We Beat Sonic Adventure DX If It Was Made After 2006?

[@zalgo694]

,,,,,,,,,,

[@FanicTheHedgehogYT]

Sonic Adventure DX & Sonic 0:03

[@TDRR_Gamez]

Honestly, just two impossible bosses is a pretty good run all in all.

[@BigRig97]

Wow, Duskk that was so funny. Haha, you're the best KZbinr ever

[@EpicDuskk]

Thank you squad fam, dont forget to smash the like button and use code EPIC when downloading raid shadow legends to get the exclusive barefoot rouge the bat character!

[@KJM87189]

Very underrated creator, hope a lot more success comes your way in the future! Amazing content

[@EpicDuskk]

Thank you!

[@A_Different_Name]

Really cool to watch! Mainly Amy's Hot Shelter. I did every stage with every character and only found you could clip through the first door as Tails, but never knew you could clip through the elevator ceiling. I'll have to keep this in mind as I'm making videos of my attempts later.

[@Samsgm]

The stream was really fun, happy to be there, and happy to see the video uploaded since i missed some parts of the stream, Also you forgot to mention the “You Unlocked Sonic!” Glitch that happened in sky deck lmao

[@selassieaspen9940]

8:44 You got my subscription 🙌 for that prevalence. Took that challenge! 😂

[@derekw8039]

So big purple characters stop Sonic in his tracks. All Eggman has to do to win is hire Barney the Dinosaur!

[@DarioAcereto]

Man, I had to leave the stream three times and I couldn't get back the last time, I got no battery left, that really sucked. Good video, by the way.

[@EpicDuskk]

The whole stream is still available to watch on the Live tab on my channel! Sorry you missed out, but im doing daily streams in April so we got plenty more where this came from!

[@Ninetails2000]

15:39-This is for the third mission which is a score attack where you need to reach above a time threshold before finishing the level. You can use those to score extra combo points to add to the timer.

[@CommanderBravo2]

dude i had been trying to find ways to open sonics sand hill ever since i first played the game. i watched your video and immediately opened the game to try it, only to get it immediately. it was a very cathartic feeling

[@SirYodaJedi]

15:33 - The extra platform that you access via a spring is necessary for "Level B", since you otherwise don't have enough rings to get 50 rings before beating the stage.

[@folming]

Wow Duskk that was so funny hahahaha! You are the best youtuber ever!

[@BigRig97]

When are we getting paid?

[@folming]

@@BigRig97 yeeeeeah, that's a tough one, I think we need to involve Sodor into it

[@EpicDuskk]

Thank you gamer! Be sure to use code EPIC to save 69% off my rouge the bat merch

[@EpicDuskk]

next leap year

[@cat1dog_]

Too much sonic not enough Big the Cat

[@EpicDuskk]

Big the cat run is next

[@Swagmaster07]

Collision is a privilege in the DX version, you made this possible in the first place by using mods, just download some Dreamcast conversion mods, no infamous Emerald Coast collision error with those.

[@EpicDuskk]

@@Swagmaster07 The dreamcast version has bugs too lmao. Yall are crazy with the dreamcast glazing. I prefer DX 👍

[@GottaBGlitches]

The Tails levels basically just became the Doppelganger races from Sonic Generations

[@NiGHTSaturn]

" Just our favourite blue _RAT_ " My goodness that felt like a personal attack hahahaha!

[@Thephoenixofstories]

0:16 “Our favorite rat” Sonic: I told you, I’m not a rat. I’m a HEDGEHOG! *Blows out flame*

[@6ix1six]

"collision is a privilege and can be revoked at anytime" 💀 truer words have never been said

[@nightingale3688]

"collision is a privillege and it can be revoked at any time" LMAOOO

[@Befesess]

thx for blessing us with this video and giving us a way to avoid Big's Campaing I just beat it without using Big untill the final battle

[@ItsFerdiNah]

6:17 "We can use these as ramps!"

[@ammash3000]

My takeaway from Big’s levels is that Sonic is able to cheat at fishing by using his speed to snatch the fish from the water directly

[@SirGrimly]

That attack you've never seen before is the pain of my fucking existence whenever I fight Zero because of how hard it is to dodge with Amy's floaty ass jump ;-;

[@EpicDuskk]

Thats why you just beat his ass into the wall quickly and skip it 😉

[@SirGrimly]

@@EpicDuskk But I am terrible at the timing and keep attacking during his I-Frames ;-;

[@ammash3000]

Looks like Eggman was right to warn Knuckles that Sonic was collecting the Master Emerald shards too

[@Goobywoobygoo]

“Hey, what’s up guys.” 🤓🤓🤓 “What is up epic gamers.” 🗿🗿🗿

[@Kill3r55_]

"DEFINITELY no big the cat" lolol

[@WC3fanatic997]

I'm just sitting here finding it fascinating that they tied specific level mechanics (like Flight Deck's stage tilting, or the spinning activator thingy from Amy's levels) to the character and not to the level itself. I dont know why, it just seems like it would create more work long-term but I'm no vidya game programmer. I just know some mechanics belong to multiple characters, in some cases poorly implemented considering the differeing scales of the characters in proportion to each other, and it would probably just be easier to enable them for all of the characters who wouldn't access them outside of their own level anyway.

[@6ix1six]

I think it's just spaghetti code. I.e. "when Sky Deck if Sonic then Tilt, if Knuckles then don't tilt" Obviously the code would look a bit more complex, but essentially it's a lot of "if" functions. But I'm no game programmer either, I'm just aware of how some functions kinda work

[@escaperoutebritish]

Commenting before watching to say - “no, Hot Shelter doesn’t contain a Sonic object layout.” Coming back to watch this later, will update comment.

[@deandelvin9924]

1:55 I think you're the fake hedgehog around here

[@sanicsanic6890]

You can actually just play Sand Hill in Sonic's story so Sonic Team probably intended it to be a fun side minigame.

[@robertlauncher]

Spindash jumping in SA1 is extremely satisfying

[@tomluna-um4np]

1:31 the ai should be replaced with metal sonic and if you play as metal sonic the ai is sonic

[@metis7534]

This video was really a sonic adventure. Subbed

[@GianfrancoLaRotta]

This really got me hooked on Sonics 0:25

[@ulonroa3305]

What I find interesting is that Sonic can interact with things like Amy's escape ballon or the crane that lifts Gamma in Hot Shelter.

[@EpicDuskk]

Yeah alot of stuff actually works in SA1 when it doesnt in SA2. Such as rockets or zip lines.

[@Amazin_O]

Gamma makes sense but bigs story of all things is what kills the run, hilarious

[@lightgivemepower6425]

13:00 Fun Fact, Sonic's light speed charging particles can also shock and paralyze Zero

[@dr.chattanooga191]

There's a huge monster fish in the hot shelter that Big can catch. That's what the checkpoint is for

[@ACamelEmoji]

3:00 "I think its pretty cool" = "I SPENT SO LONG ON THIS'

[@EpicDuskk]

It didnt take us that long! I just thought it was interesting enough to mention since some people are gonna think getting into the levels should be considered. Hot Shelter is where we literally spent like 2 hours lmao

[@Supersonic6427]

4:22 Wouldn't charging up a lightspeed dash, hitting the panel, and then releasing the dash afterwards (timing it, obviously) to reach the high platform also work?

[@EpicDuskk]

Probably, I didnt think of the light speed attack till I was already down there.

[@TrueDarkDragonReaper]

Amy would realistically be required without outside people, you were stumped with Amy, so lets say its possible, with special knowledge and help

[@EpicDuskk]

"Its only possible if you know how" homie yeah thats how things work lol. Alot of these challenges end up being collaborative efforts. People in the live chat come up with ideas too. I dont think it invalidates anything. The title is can WE beat the game after all.

[@TrueDarkDragonReaper]

@@EpicDuskk I get Knuckles and Tails, but you had to do way more work with Amy's story, so Amy would be more wanted because she is more equipped for it, and I would just say if the game was done so intentionally, without glitches, then Amy would be needed

[@randompog8493]

That secret big area in hot shelter is probably to get the bigger fish that I'm pretty sure never show up in the main area where froggy is at most for the A rank mission Not that I knew because I for whatever reason couldn't even beat the A rank mission in Twinkle Park despite having all upgrades (but I think there was something about an out of bounds upgrade for big to make it easier, either that or even with all three the A rank is a nightmare still)

[@chuchupoppy]

15:40 --- Gamma's first level was originally planned to be losable, & there is a (very janked) cutscene for if you did fail it. This is Probably why they had that extra time, there.

[@LuucasIckie]

Sonic can go into Sand Hill in the regular game, just not in Story Mode In the Sub-Game section in the menu you can play in Sand Hill snd you'll always play as Sonic

[@iDarthDub]

Actually if you beat it with Tails in his story, it'll let you go in there as Sonic.

[@MCNinjaLoganCox-Hockey]

oh so THATS where the balloon for extra slot amy in sonic 3 air comes from

[@lightgivemepower6425]

9:16 I'm glad im not the only one who knows about this trick, sucks that you can't do it in SA2

[@ArtUndertheArch]

I’ve been playing this game for 24 years, and I didn’t know you could lose the races lol 5:17

[@EpicDuskk]

Only if you suffer from chronic skill issues

[@selassieaspen9940]

Should have seen hide Sonic beaten Heroes by himself almost. But nobody else got past the first stage without him. 😂

[@dylanaruto20]

5:24 I actually beat this level as Super Sonic and it didn't crash

[@Roach1]

i got one for ya, dead rising but you're only allowed to attack with frank's talents, no items, just things like the jump kick, roundhouse, football tackle, knee drop, etc its a pretty interesting challenge, since people sleep on a lot of frank's talents like the football tackle which guarantees a stagger on psychopaths

[@MountainGuu]

I knew I recognized that voice used the love you’re lives lol

[@Dontemin]

Also known as: If Sonic aAdventure DX was made today. Seriously, they’d actively flip everybody else off and only let Sonic be playable.

[@Dork_000]

Sonic frontiers, Sonic dream team, Shadow generations, hell, even Sonic rumble

[@Dontemin]

@@Dork_000 Minimal play-time, not in the game initially Phone game on Apple subscription service, probably done as a bare minimum to draw players The most recent, and still flips off every other side character because Shadow’s second most used Mobile Fall Guys type of game, why would you ever count it

[@Dork_000]

@Dontemin That's why I said "Hell, even Sonic Rumble" because it barely counts. I was just pointing out that you're TECHNICALLY wrong. Because if it was made today, it would have more of a chance to have different characters. I know it doesn't matter, I just like being a prick

[@Dontemin]

@@Dork_000 I see then. Fair enough.

[@mayoDmayo]

now we gotta do metal sonic

[@jedimasterpickle3]

Y'know, had a feeling Big would be a roadblock, just not in the way I expected.

[@originalkingdomhearts]

I'm sure someone will figure out how to beat those bosses as Sonic. They always find a way.

[@L.T.H.7032]

10:19 I like the Jehtt reference

[@Benjamin-vl2oh]

Finally, Sonic⁶ Adventure

[@LoneWolfDaniel23]

I hope we can see if Tails can actually beat the stories.

[@EpicDuskk]

I might do it someday. I feel tails would do it too easily though, but maybe not! In the meantime i do have "can tails beat sonic adventure 2" on the channel!

[@gamertypeawesome]

why would tails be able to beat bigs boss?

[@suns3t_t0wn]

is this what game journalists and review sites wish adventure was

[@EpicDuskk]

Nah not enough boost button or quick time events. This is too hard for them

[@spongebobfan78]

It's kinda weird hearing the random issues with the switching of characters. Unless I'm misremembering, I didn't encounter these kinds of problems when I was using the SADX Trainer (though for Big's case, I don't think there was a collectable Froggy). This was years before modding for SADX had advanced, so there was like the 2004 PC game with its incorrect windowed resolution that can be fixed by the trainer, the closing of the game if you played in fullscreen but alt-tabbed, the only level mods that aren't rearranged layouts are like two for several years, etc.

[@deslardesslok]

11:18-11:52 Wait what? I never knew about that. That's actually crazy a whole area JUST for Big? Wow 3:44a.m. 4/17/2024

[@TheCreationOfDread]

Do Tails next but without Cream mod(You are not allowed to use the Cream & Rouge mods)

[@makotost8425]

Sonic Adventure if it was release between 2010-2021

[@huyphan7825]

You should've called the AI Sonic "Blue Shadow" for the luls

[@szszabolcs9582]

10:18 YOU JUST DID A JEHTT REFERENCE???? 😂😂😂😂THAT GOT ME OFF GUARD...I'M NOT COMPLAING CAUSE JEHTT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE SONIC PARODY CHANNELS😂

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

those collision glitches don't happen on tha Original Dreamcast version @10:19

[@tenebrisferre]

I'm so glad that Hot Shelter is beatable ! 🎉

[@gazzagog]

In sadx no limit mod(or something like that) every level is changed to be able to play as any character

[@EpicDuskk]

Wouldnt be much of a challenge then

[@Dreamcasttime]

Yes you can, but you need luck and precision sometimes (And also counting Super Sonic as Sonic and not counting E-series bosses)

[@AloneTheorist]

You could say big getting misloaded in place of sonic was a BIG mistake.😅

[@Slimeonian]

Can’t wait for 06 with only Amy 😈

[@rglgra]

3:15 *BONK* *CRUNCH* i have now killed the hog the sonic hedge

[@ucky9226]

How do you keep light speedsadh charged while chargi'g anotyer spindash ?

[@scanchannel3259]

Now do SADX Amy only. (Jokes aside after seeing Charriii5 do Big and Gamma only it's interesting to see Sonic in levels like Hot Shelter since those levels are only for Big,Amy, and Gamma.)

[@EpicDuskk]

That was one of my earlier videos actually! I made that around January of this year. Though I only did Sonic's story. Still was a fun video though, you can find it on my channel!

[@scanchannel3259]

@@EpicDuskk Are you planning on doing Amy in other stories? (except her own of course.)

[@scanchannel3259]

@@EpicDuskk I take that as a no?

[@EpicDuskk]

@@scanchannel3259 oop sorry I never responded to your comment! In hindsight I should have done the other stories, I think back then I was under the impression that videos should be shorter which is why I didnt do them. I dont have plans to revisit them at the moment but I might revisit these challenges sometime in the future and if I do ill be sure to include each level from the other stories.

[@scanchannel3259]

@@EpicDuskk ok

[@breno8119]

Tittle could be: Sonic adventure Dx but only the fun playstyle

[@ReckleTheRock]

"We're only gonna look at the bosses and the levels" So the answer is no. Thanks for saving me 18 minutes 👍

[@EpicDuskk]

You sound like the type of guy who makes the friend group have to appear offline because they dont want to deal with you

[@spectravian]

You must be fun at parties.

[@owengooding61]

Do sonic adventure dx only as knuckles

[@Samsgm]

I just realized that the thumbnail for this is the thumbnail for the Classic Sonic Animations mod on gamebanana

[@bluemaster-extream_dbl]

i mean it is a sonic game (why do i have to play as a cat >:( )

[@Naruku2121]

16:10 *Insert Faker Accusations Here*

[@AwesomeKev]

How have I been a member for 24 days and haven’t noticed

[@theneoreformationist]

Question, is the Chaos 6 double damage an intended feature of the game, or an accidental double registry?

[@EpicDuskk]

I dont think its intended, but I also dont know why it works. It doesnt work on any other boss so I think it has to do with him being frozen

[@theneoreformationist]

@@EpicDuskk Also maximum heat knuckles on the same boss (relevant side information).

[@GrassyBoy]

But the real question is Is Sonic's story possible using only Sonic