Can We Really Get 200mpg From A VW XL1?

[@bloviatingbeluga8553]

there are two countries that use Gallon. they are not the same. That has always bothered me

[@JakeM218]

Same here! And also how Americans don’t use stones. They says ounces, lbs etc and then stop there - whereas the U.K. continued to include stones.

[@Addison0526]

And then they fill it up and talk liters lol

[@alechall7082]

​@JakeM218 Since we stop at pounds, it's normal for us to talk about pounds in the hundreds, then for 1000 pounds we say half a ton.

[@xHypnoToad]

wait till you learn about the UK mile Vs the US mile

[@gofres]

And the ton/tonne

[@aeonturnip2]

It did well considering it had two blokes in the car, adding another 100kg - when a car is this light, that makes a big difference.

[@_generation_youth_x28]

I’d say they’re both at least 70kg so up to 150kg weight

[@pashkaS54]

We’ve had 100+mpg cars for over 20 years. Audi A3L, Honda Insight, XL1, and Opel EcoSpeedster, yet SUVs are the best selling vehicles.

[@jackt883]

I'm quite enjoying these two on the vids. 😀

[@John_Akinde]

Brother is a paid actor 😂

[@Recessio]

Best video you (new) guys have done. I'd never heard of this car before now. Can't believe it was actually made rather than just a one-off concept car

[@pickamove]

Piech's vision that actually does what it was engineered to do yet again :D

[@CheradenZakalwe]

Really enjoyed this one, was a bit different.

[@mikeroz6549]

I've always loved these. Shame they were & still are so expensive. I believe the Michelin tyres are not an in-stock item either and when they do make a batch are horrendously expensive. I was unaware of the brakes. But if you ask me, such a shame that this didn't influence future more mainstream cars.

[@MCMonsterbuilder]

The best I ever got in my car was around 78.5 mpg's over a whole tank, all motorway driving behind lorries at 80kph sometimes maybe 100 but that is the max. But considering my car is just a normal renault clio diesel and not some optimised special version I guess thats okay.

[@filipstojanovic6768]

What is the car

[@sebastianohalloran9093]

Fascinating stuff gents and well done for bringing different content.

[@rok2716]

You could make the consumption 1000000mpg on a 5 mile trip with a full battery, this test is pointles. Do 1000 mile trip and lets see the consumption.

[@ABYTE64]

yes

[@darthfigures5395]

meh

[@bleaxch9560]

It feels weird seeing my work van in the corner at the shell garage seeing my self on lunch 😂😂

[@OHHnoYOUdidntMAN]

You got a front-row ticket to the show

[@pratvachan]

That means it will be 360 Indian Rupees to travel 300 km to my home town. Even if I take it to 500 round off and add 360 for the toll, I would be done at 10 British pounds for that travel. And I don't always need Aircon. 75km to the litre with Aircon should translate to at least 80kmpl. Even 100cc bikes of India will struggle to get that kind of efficiency down a slope. I would buy this thing in a heartbeat if only it didn't cost a fortune to buy man.

[@mattmopar440]

First new video on this channel I liked good job

[@RobinCapper]

So glad to live in a properly metric country!

[@zzhughesd]

Sport one did look ace. 96-115k new is correct. Sold mine 75k after a 6 month fight. Had bites 99k and 110k. Basically they went down to 63k at auction and are flat between 75 and 80k. Mine owed 75k with auction fees. Insane thing. Not for driving daily. Horrid to squirt up a road.

[@aaroncousins4750]

What the point in them though? No one spending 100k+ on a car is worrying about their fuel economy

[@prudx2775]

​@@aaroncousins4750It's a concept car, VW used what it learned from this project to inform the original eGolf which came shortly after

[@zzhughesd]

@@aaroncousins4750 aha. Well. It’s all very logical. Volks Gp wanted prove could match S class for common person. Phaeton. High speed = Bugatti. Hyper miler = XL1. It was proving the point exercise took them 20 years since around 98-2015!!!!!! Some early generation prototypes of XL1 crazy

[@elliot438bcfcVTEC]

I'll stick to my Honda Jazz. A whole 74k cheaper although it only gets 50mpg.

[@oaummakwana]

They should build this again with full ev versions

[@DetectiveDeuche]

I think I'm finally getting used to these 2, this video was the first one by them I haven't hated but its still so upsetting how the suits fucked up this channel. I just hope these 2 don't experience the same issues.

[@burrogrande]

That mpg is plainly absurd! How cool, and god that ages me a bit 😂

[@jonathantaylor1998]

So, a small EV battery...? A 2-cylinder hybrid engine...? A carbon fibre tub...? And 'bicycle-size' tyres...? Basically, it's VW's version of the BMW i3 Rex...!!

[@jenny80myles]

You make it sounds like the BMW i3 came before the VW XL1

[@jonathantaylor1998]

@@jenny80myles funnily enough, that never crossed my mind...! But, having now just Googled it, both the XL1 and i3 were 'previewed' as concepts in 2011, then went in to production in 2013 with the i3 just beating the XL1 to market by a couple of months in Nov 2013 (i3) vs Jan 2014 (XL1). Clearly, the main difference though was that the 60Ah i3 Rex cost around £29,000 at launch vs £98,500 for the XL1...!!

[@jenny80myles]

@@jonathantaylor1998 Sure. We will leave out the 2002 1 litre concept and the 2009 L1 concept. I still don't see the point of comparing an engineering exercise that went into limited production to a car that is meant for mass production. It's kind of like comparing an Ikea furniture to a bespoke hand made piece.

[@gazzaman28]

I have a 2015 i3 REX, it has roughly an 18kWh battery, and the fuel tank is around the same size as the XL1, it will take about 9 litres max. It'll do around 70 miles on electric only mode, but can be rapid charged so that it can be refilled to about 90% in about 45mins. It will do about 90 miles on petrol, so its MPG isn't that great in reality, but it's a fabulous little car, I love mine, it's done nearly 120k and the battery is still excellent.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

@@jenny80myles gosh... I really seem to have upset you, somehow. Sorry if I have. I wasn't decrying the XL1 - in fact I always thought it a fascinating design, finely crafted to fit its specific ultimate-efficiency purpose. I was merely making the observation that both it and the BMW i3 Rex share a lot of design & construction commonality - that's all.

[@TsunamiSephi]

That must be a weird place to have so much more road noise but so much less wind noise

[@jacob42069]

I just wanna say hats off to you guys the new presenters! At first I thought this channel would die out, but you guys have given it a fresh breath of life and are doing really well and fitting in great. Wish you all the best ❤

[@f1since08]

12:01 are the bleeps on a limited budget now too? 😆

[@chrisparkinson367]

Take a fucking hint 😂

[@JohnSmith-dt1tw]

Amazing timing, I just saw one of these on the road on Tuesday!

[@512woogy7]

I wonder what the name of the channel these guys make will be when they inevitably leave car throttle

[@Goodman-4525]

I'm surprised no one said anything about you saying "how much petrol it uses" lol

[@RWL2012]

Diesel fuel is petroleum-based, it's just named after the type of engine it fuels.

[@encodersofia]

£2.37 per 100km - easy with the VW e-Up. Much more boring, but much more practical

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

Electric - ew.

[@randunufdo1]

Last year the UK burnt roughly about 1.2 trillion(59 million metric tonnes) pounds worth of petrol excluding all other forms of fossil fuels just imagine if that could be put back into our economy what we could achieve.

[@johnthompson9918]

Going by that theory, you’d get even more mpg I’d you had a bigger battery pack. It’s not a true representation of what is achievable there. If that calculation was for 1 way, you would not a have that on the return journey with a near depleted battery

[@augnkn93043]

Yes. It was pointless. I’d like to see what it can do with a flat battery.

[@johnthompson9918]

@@augnkn93043 thank you. ✌🏼

[@henryviiifake8244]

*Diminishing returns.* Batteries have a much lower volumetric energy density compared to fuel. At a certain point, increasing the size of the hybrid battery does not give better fuel economy because and savings get lost moving the additional mass.

[@urbanspaceman7183]

Interior is still better than a Tesla.

[@mattus1gig]

The front looks ok but I couldn’t be dealing with the stress.

[@JakeM218]

This is completely flawed because you started with a full battery and ended up with an empty battery... 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JakeM218]

A bit more maths. One litre of diesel = 11kw So the battery use is about half a litre of diesels worth, which takes it to 1.84 litres per 100km. = about 150mpg…

[@floflop9351]

⁠@@JakeM218a bit more maths would have make you consider the efficiency between the gasoline to the proper cinetic energy, that you have absolutely no idea.

[@JakeM218]

@@floflop9351 This was the easiest way to calculate the extra 5.5kw of energy use that they didn’t include, and convert it to their mpg metric. Realistically, they showed they used a 3 pin wall charger to charge the battery and not the diesel engine. It’s possible to look at eMPG and try to blend them together, but this is also flawed as both electric and fuel costs fluctuate - whereas 150mpg today will still have the exact same reference in 2 years time.

[@ianhill20101]

​@@JakeM218nearly there just need to account for the difference in efficiency between diesel and electric not easy depends on the speeds etc so maybe 120mpg diesel alone there abouts

[@stephencresswell4760]

So what about all the electric that was used?

[@Perry_dAccard]

So, of you wanted to drive economically, you could spend 9'000€ on an econobox that seated 5 with a bit of boot space and cheap maintenance, OR you could spend over €100k more for this? Ok.

[@rkan2]

One is an econobox, the other a Piëch induced Halo-car...

[@prudx2775]

It's a concept car 😅 not for people trying to be economic. VW used what they learned from the project to make the eGolf

[@micheals1992]

This would probably be my second choice for a dream car after an aptera 😅.

[@zakbradshaw6690]

keep it up lads, got a funny dynamic between the two of you

[@focus550]

Not a bad cost for something produced in such low volume, and probably sold at a loss for VW. You could have simplified your MPG calculation. 4.54 (UK Gallon) /1.34 (fuel used) * 62.7 (mileage covered)

[@captainashcam]

Love the XL1, stunning looking design

[@ramiroini9504]

This channel is still alive?

[@stevenormandin2059]

US gallon is 128 ounces or 3.78L the IMPERIAL gallon is 160 ounces or 4.54L

[@CtotheC123]

Interesting vid featuring an even more interesting car. Would buy one of these if it wasn't £75k+! Good job Car Throttle

[@serz1885]

hahhaha 14:10 brits just making there life harder its 1litre per 60 miles you already had all info before you started counting hahahah

[@bvkcars8349]

Great video guys!

[@brutalschel]

First time seeing these guys here, but they're good!

[@kskrastins30]

If we didn't have that hideous moustache and haircut- might do 300mpg. Couldn't even finish watching the video. Dude needs stylist. Or just hire another one 😅

[@AdeReeves]

I can't imagine why they never took off 🤔

[@bitkarek]

buying an expensive car to safe on fuel is ... interesting idea :)

[@Niklas.K95]

Buyable prototype Why? Fuck you! That's why! (That was really the only reason. A weird flex)

[@d.b.cooper1]

cause it was a errr...a concept car prced at £115k?

[@doggydoggywoowoo1233]

Back to the channel because of the female presenter today, hopefully a different direction 9

[@IanCoomer]

Get 2 eddie Halls, and that thing could be pocked up and carried away. Now there's a video for you

[@hakalasami]

if the battery is at 0%, what does the car pull with only the diesel engine?

[@jenny80myles]

The diesel engine is rated at 2L/100km

[@AlphaEngineer2022]

Rip the hybrid unit and battery pack out and let’s see what it can actually do🤪

[@zzhughesd]

Yes. But 140 is the usual !!!! Had one 5 years !!!!! Was horrifically garbage to drive. Was air freighted sold to Japan. Interesting thing. Collecting cars podcast said carbon ceramics cost 36k as why not. VW. Charge what they wish. Sold it.

[@randomchannel323]

It has Mclaren F1 windows and offset seating

[@madjh8]

Well, twoo guys and lot of stuff on and the driving style, so it is more than possible for one person only, it should be not difficult.

[@gofres]

Nothing quite like spending 100k of a car to save 2k a year on fuel. Same with EVs 😂

[@RoderikvanReekum]

This is a excellent and great video with quality only Car throttle could do!

[@augnkn93043]

There was one sold for £55k a few years ago.

[@Handle423]

I wish those things were mainstream

[@zzhughesd]

Engine sounds like a Kyabosi diesel generator. 2 cylinder

[@GermanPerfectionist]

Great video, but would be much appreciated if you could add metric conversions on screen, especially when talking about fuel consumption :)

[@pauliewalnuts240]

I just cant understand why this didnt catch on you kno?

[@rkan2]

The carbon chassis could've been made cheap enough... But that 10k+ brake job, probably. Though the brakes would probably last a loooooong time unless you really abused them.

[@tomthebrick8360]

Good video

[@nicklasf9577]

2:49 the car uses no petrol at all, because this is a diesel car.

[@TsunamiSephi]

Honestly it's about the same performance as my Mazda 2 in terms of horsepower to weight, but the torque is crazy. I bet it feels very similar to driving a CRZ

[@Birmingham_racing]

Make Prius look like a v12

[@roderickjones7479]

How long will it take for these two guys to leave and join Alex...?

[@ItsKyleW]

This was a good one

[@zdenekprecechtel6741]

I love this car

[@siraff4461]

It didn't get 212mpg though, did it? It got whatever mpg after using the battery for a chunk of it. For all we know it might have got 100mpg and the other 100 battery depending on how far it went on electric. My plug-in can get 600mpg easily if I use the battery for the majority of the journey.

[@augnkn93043]

If you did the same thing in a fully electric vehicle you wouldn’t have used any diesel. Do the same thing with a flat battery.

[@danielcobb8886]

"How much petrol the car uses" uh oh.

[@SoulStyla]

212,5 mpg = 1,11 l/100km

[@ChromeFlakes]

These are rookie numbers, any EV does the equivalent of over 300mpg.

[@samr3530]

Tesla charging from night tariff still gonna be cheaper

[@JakeM218]

They didn’t even include any electric use in this at all. Batteries just magically fill up and aren’t included!

[@jaymakesvideo]

@@JakeM218My EV costs £2.30 for a full charge at home which takes me 150 miles. My EV is still cheaper than this, plus 150 miles covers all my journeys.

[@JakeM218]

@@jaymakesvideo It would be great to see this XL1 equivalent philosophy with a fully electric car. If they built a carbon fibre car, with thin sections tyres, high efficiency covered wheel aerodynamics etc - what could they push the distance per KWH to.

[@gazzaman28]

​@@JakeM218BMW i3 & i8 then :)

[@lesklower7281]

Much cheaper to run than an EV well any other petrol diesel or hybrid vehicle is the is the most economical car ever made with a lot of comprises

[@gazzaman28]

An EV doing 4 miles per kWh which is pretty normal if driven carefully, will cost less than 2p per mile if charged on the overnight Octopus Intelligent Go tariff. With diesel at £1.50/litre and doing 200MPG that works out at 2.5p per mile. Cheap, but not as cheap as an EV.

[@lesklower7281]

@@gazzaman28 The big problem not everyone can charge there EV at there first you need off street parking and of course you have to pay for that to be fitted and of course and your EV cost a lot more than an equivalent I.C.E vehicle also your EV is deprecating faster than it goes now l for example well l would never buy an EV for starters although l live in a house with off street parking l could never fit a charger because l rent but also the cost now a base model Tesla was aud $66000 now l could never justify spending that much money on any sort of vehicle we have two vehicles a 2017 Suzuki Baleno which we paid aud $15750 with 81000 kilometres on it and a 1997 Toyota Hilux five years ago l paid aud $1500 but now is worth aud $5000 or more so it's a better investment than your Tesla because in Australia Toyota's and Lexuses will deprecate to there lowest value once they get to a certain age say 20 years and start appreciating well after all Toyota's are very popular in Australia the number one seller for the past 25 years l do see EVs around and the ratio of Toyota's to EVs is about 40 Toyota's to one EV and in Australia you never to far from a Toyota but a long way from an EV

[@plantertrey]

Entertaining and enjoyable. Great idea for content. Now hypermile a supercar. Enjoy these two.

[@Mr.Pidgeon]

Would love to see you guys thought on aptera if/when you are able to

[@WoodyAtWar]

Forgot to bleep at 12.02 boys.

[@ThroughJermainesLens]

Gallon... just so weird...

[@Ryzza5]

Clicked Subscribed > Unsubscribe. The idea was interesting but the delivery was lost on me. Sorry lads and all the best going forward.

[@robc8892]

Interesting video. Probably this type of car ia what we should be seeing more of. High mpg /efficient instead we get 2-3 tonne EV 4x4s. Madness.

[@vdawes5624]

Is that a Dacia support car… wow how this channel has fallen 😂

[@StopTeoriomSpiskowym]

of course you charge battery and drive many km on this at 100km secodnd 100km bigger consumption

[@dannymitchell5276]

Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn

[@shugthehornyhaggis]

I would rather watch the lostprofits concert than anything from car throttle

[@Chaff_flare]

lots of bots in comments

[@tomhayward8931]

I feel this is the end of car throttle....

[@puka6043]

God bless these bots, at least anyone will appreciate your effort 🙏🏻

[@MyRealName]

Are you willing to show your work, whatever it may be, that you're so proud of and make it public for everyone to see? 🙏

[@uli0058]

This guys are to serious I think that’s the problem we need someone who has a bit of character imo

[@mrw1160]

The lighter you are the better

[@TsunamiSephi]

Does it even have power steering with tires as skinny as that?

[@zzhughesd]

NO !!!!! It doesn’t. And. On the Birmingham motorway’s over the cities each section motorway banged over each second just like hitting cats eyes.

[@jcc3494]

Most modern hatchbacks don't need power steering so this thing definitely doesn't

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

​@@jcc3494 What the f are you on about? Every hot hatch has some sort of power steering.

[@hexagonosaurus5848]

😂

[@jcc3494]

@@hexagonosaurus5848 didn't say they don't have it. I said they have it unnecessarily. I've driven several cars without power steering and it's not difficult

[@matthewbowler6563]

ALEX KERSTEN GETS AWAY WITH BEING OVER DRAMATIC WITH MOVEMENTS WHEN YOU 3 DO IT... CRINGE

[@mrougelot]

I mean…if you wanted to succeed you should have used EV only in town, and engine on the motorway, instead of the opposite.

[@paulsalmusic]

Good stuff

[@Ibby_M5]

Your not car throttle wtf

[@d.o.kgaming5868]

I can’t even get 20 mpg

[@tray3989]

I'm sorry guys but no. You're in a really unfortunate position but I really think the channel's dead.

[@lptomtom]

I wonder how long these comments will last

[@tray3989]

@@lptomtom They'll probably stop once they kill the channel outright.

[@santostv.]

Anyone know why everyone left??

[@HVRKK]

​@santostv. Jack and ethan made a video about it on their new channel All the gear

[@tray3989]

@@santostv. They all made videos of their own.

[@mikefoley360]

Christ!

[@baconshark8067]

You failed catastrophically! You filled the tank but you did not charge the battery. For this test to be fair in terms of diesel fuel, you either have to start and end with an empty battery, or start and end with a full battery. To start with a full battery and end with an empty battery is cheating because the battery contributed to the mpg. Fail fail fail...

[@tommyattack590]

Hopefully they’ll leave car throttle and do their own thing, they are great

[@blooperbooper]

62 miles to work out mpg is just nonsense. Absolute waste of my time. Unsubscribed