Can Windows 98 Run on a New Modern PC 2024?

[@RamtechENG]

Partition Manager shorturl.at/jqs48

[@futuristicentity2417]

Advice salvage older hardware and desktop case and make a restoration project if it works it might be that older computers can be considered retro pieces I prefer older Operating Systems because newer ones block certain software and it was a mistake for Microsoft to even go this route. The more they upgrade the more expensive it becomes this is kind of unfair for those who just want a computer I am wanting my Windows 7 Vista back very badly and thinking about formatting and putting it on here my computer isn't compatible with Windows 11 so I am thinking about taking advantage if you have a virus scanner it's all you need you have the option to revert expect no support from Microsoft though apparently they don't want your money that bad enough.

[@MGRracing]

@@futuristicentity2417 What are your systems specs? I think you can force windows 11 on systems that claim they do not meet minimum requirements.

[@Putin-Lox]

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[@Twitch_Moderator]

*That Cougar Panzer EVO case is phenomenal. I'm looking at buying the RGB version because it comes with the USB 3.1 type C and a few other goodies.*

[@sas999lljw]

Imagine if there was a message' this PC is too new/powerful for windows 98, please downgrade to continue. ' that would be funny

[@OfficialNightic]

If I'm correct some betas of windows operating systems have that

[@ezequiele.5230]

​@@OfficialNightic just curious which ones?

[@OfficialNightic]

@@ezequiele.5230 Possibly Memphis, Whistler and Longhorn.

[@supremegameer1_gaming878]

Underrated comment

[@OfficialNightic]

@@supremegameer1_gaming878 no

[@fn0rd-f5o]

things have gotten so much easier than they used to be. i remember installing drivers on floppies and actually setting jumpers for irq setting.

[@yussef961]

ah yes for overclocking lol you had to tell ms dos games to use dma 220 irq 3 etc

[@Vlad-1986]

There is actually a SATA driver for DVD drives for DOS. It is called XDVD2 Also a better tool than patchmem it is called limit9x. Basically, you don't need to change RAM into your computer. It just makes it so regardless of your actual Memory, Windows98 will only see and reserve 512mb. This is the maximum and avoids having to limit the system to 4GB

[@eizomonitor6003]

Yup. I did the same a long time ago and worked. Later i used a different patch to max out my memory.

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes valid cd rom devices drivers selected -M --P

[@davinovais3436]

@@eizomonitor6003 Where I can download it???

[@pikachuchujelly7628]

Rudolph Loew's patch is better. It allows Windows 98 to actually take advantage of all 4 GB of RAM (the absolute maximum for a 32-bit non-PAE OS).

[@MidwestFarmToys]

@@pikachuchujelly7628it's not that good if you can't get it to work is it

[@RamtechENG]

What is your favorite operating system?

[@NOTNOTCAT]

windows xp

[@MariostrekYT]

windows 7

[@Obito_Playzz]

First I was windows xp, then I got used to 7 and then it was really hard to upgrade to 10 but now I can't upgrade to 11 it looks so weiredish

[@himmelskibet]

Windows 2000/Windows 7

[@zushikatetomotoshift1575]

Windows 98, XP and 7.

[@bitemykrank1970]

You don't need the USB stick to do a Win98 install. All you need is to copy the win98 folder from the CD to your HDD and run setup from it directly. It's the way we did it back in the day.

[@jordantsvetanov9920]

+1

[@miguelmsilva16]

This is the first time I saw an operating system saying "your PC is too good for this software, please downgrade"

[@markpmar0356]

The first OS I used was Windows 98 and it was in 1998 and because some things never change, it didn't run very well at first and the OS didn't really stabilize until it was patched in Windows 98 Second Edition the following year. It was a great OS to play with and learn from but as an OS meant to run on DOS and in 32-bit environments, I'm surprised you got as far as you did. The most "modern" CPU I ever used with Win 98 was a Pentium D. Win 98 wasn't meant to operate past "Pentium !!!", as it was called. And 512 MB of DRAM would've been a huge luxury in 1998-99. I used 32 MB of memory in my first PC. That PC still runs and I have Mr. Loew's software patches, too. It remains one of my favorite builds. Currently, I am using Windows 7. I call it "the perfected Windows 98"! Thanks for this video.

[@datavalisofficial8730]

My first was win 98 too, not in 1998 but in 2004 lol, i was 6 to 7yo

[@probablyanon]

win7 gang gigachad

[@gpubenchmarks7905]

Win 7 was good. 1 of the best os. So beautiful aero glass.

[@fuyoutubeck]

windows 7 is awesome guys

[@rayphoenix7296]

The first computer my family bought ran Windows 98. It was not the first OS I ever used though. Windows 3.1 was the first OS I ever used. I used it on a computer my father fixed up from his workplace in 1999.

[@spankyham9607]

Could be down to the Legacy implementation of the UEFI bios. I run into that problem off and on, and many current motherboard no longer have legacy. Another possibility is that AMD still retains more legacy architectures than Intel is. Hard to know which is the case, but congrats you found something that works non the less.

[@abrahamdsl]

"and many current motherboard no longer have legacy" me with my new Asus TUF Dash f15, this UEFI really.

[@mrmosk2011]

Looks like AMD CPU has some good backward compatible capabilities. I am surprised it even worked, because modern PCIe drivers use a lot more memory than the PCI ones in the late 90’s. It also shows how well PCIe is designed for backward compatibility, when the physical bus is completely different, yet the software addressing still shares enough with PCI to let the OS start.

[@jonathanrees3765]

Single CPU/core showing up is to be expected, first Microsoft operating system that supported 2 CPUs was NT. At least 1 vendor had an NT 4.0 HAL that supported a whole 4 CPUs (but went out of support really fast). Safe mode loads without any non essential drivers - so if boots in safe mode but not normally it is a driver issue. It is sometimes possible to back port drivers from a newer Windows operating system - under the bonnet even 11 still has old code. Windows retains unused drivers, so when you swap between boards it retains garbage from different board(s). In device manager "Show hidden devices" will normally display these. It is often useful to uninstall these devices/drivers when you have problems as it cleans up plug and play. Plug and play does not actually work properly if the graphics driver is not right or not functioning correctly - not sure why, but after graphics driver install system often then would correctly identify the rest of the system. Installing 95 on older DOS systems often had problems because of faulty RAM - that never showed in DOS.

[@michaelprox1172]

Next: Can Windows 95 Run on a New Modern PC 2022

[@nghxi]

2023*

[@michaelprox1172]

@@nghxi true

[@wikluska1337]

​@@michaelprox1172 before it was 2022 but nów we are 23

[@DDramKing]

@@wikluska1337 2024:)

[@armani_raccoon2816]

Im a youngin when it comes to PC gaming (born in 04 flip flopped thur PC and console most of my life) and the oldest OS i've ever used is Windows XP but seeing videos like these not only makes me appreciate how far we advanced in tech but also how simple yet cool things were in the past. I want to make an old build some day and have either Windows 95 or 98 on it just to get an idea of what it was like

[@zepo82]

honestly as an oldy just use a vm to fiddle about and save some money! :D

[@tejay9416]

Be glad you werent around for the Windows ME days smfh lmfao

[@Dave_en]

Windows 98SE was best among 9x series OS but still it lacked lot of things. XP was best among the NT 32 bit systems. Windows 7 is still the best among x64 OS. But unfortunately these old OSes are retired and do not support new hardware fully. Lack of drivers makes these brilliant OS unusable nowadays. But still I am thinking to install xp for educational purpose for my kids. Atleast they can use old encyclopedia and other useful softwares of XP era. I can generate horoscopes for friends and relatives.

[@agsel]

HIMEMX /MAX=512M would probably alleviate any memory problems. Also you have already been running MS-DOS in this entire video.

[@ManachanJapan]

My first own PC was a hand-down from my uncle, running Windows 3.11 in 1998. Not any programs, just some games from floppy disks my older sister copied on her PC (she was already living in her own apartment). I learned using computers at a friend's house, whose father worked in IT and thus she had two Windows 95 PC's at home (we met at school when we entered elementary school in 1994). In 5th grade, we had a basic PC course with basic office skills on Windows 98 and our public library opened a PC corner with flatscreen PCs and Windows 98. When 2000 came out, they upgraded to Windows 2000 and kept it. At my high school, we also used Windows 2000. My 2nd own PC was from my mother's office when they purchased new PCs. I got it around 2003, running Windows 98. In 2006, I finally convinced my mother to get DSL and that I need a better PC for school, and we purchased a refurbished Win2000 Dell from ebay. A couple of months later my system crashed, and a friend knew someone working for Microsoft and thus could get me a discounted XP disc. Once XP was installed, I could still access the 2000 image saved on the hard drive - but could not boot 2000 for some reason. My favorite systems are 2000 and 7.

[@danwake4431]

i have an ancient Dell Inspiron 7100 laptop that came with XP but for some reason, back in the day I put 2000 Professional on it, and it boots and runs fine to this day. Although I haven't put it on the internet in many years. 2000 is so clean and proper and no nonsense. I wish we had a version like that today.

[@NUCLEARARMAMENT]

I have an old Dell Inspiron 4100 with GeForce 2 Go graphics. I wonder what I can do with it now.

[@aikidoboynj]

@@NUCLEARARMAMENTi found a dell imension 3000 with a celeron 2.4 ghz at a thrift store and i put windows 98 se in it and messed around with it and now I actually installed windows ME on it and I actually very much like windows ME I never used it back in the day and I always heard it was the mistake edition lmao but tbh it's not bad at all. Even have the integrated mb audio working!

[@skesinis]

I’ve tried once back in the late ‘90s to install and run Windows 3.11 on my Windows 95 Pentium 233MHz PC, with 64MB of RAM, split in half to create a 32MB RAMdisk, where I installed the windows 3.11 just for fun, to see how fast they’d boot up. Not only did they run properly (until I exited and I rebooted the PC, which obviously erased them from the RAMdisk), but they booted up in just about 1 sec! I think that the most time of the booting process was for the monitor to switch mode from text to the graphics resolution! 😂 My first ever PC, which I had back in 1991 had Windows 3.0, and it was just a 386sx/16MHz, with 2MB RAM and 40MB hard drive.

[@wallacegrommet9343]

Our office installed Win 3.11 on a large network the same year. Our IT techs were so excited when the 486 Intel cpu was available sometime later!

[@stormykeep9213]

It's fun experimenting with old/new hardware and software in this fashion! I'm just thankful for emulators though like PCEM and 86Box so I can play my old Windows 95/98 games on my modern pc!

[@myname604]

I used to mod my Win98se so I could run it forever. I lost it and didn't have a back up of my years of work modding the system. Back ups were complicated because of migration to new PC's as I moved along through time. I had added large drive support, NTFS support among other file systems, and even had it running XP SP3 software including .NET framework. With Windows 98 SE anything is possible. Some of the secrets starts with DOS, I had to use parts of DOS 5, 6 , windows 98 base DOS and windows ME secret non-interface DOS 8 components and utilities to enable a broad range of of functions and abilities. I installed many DOS based drivers under the hood to achieve a greater level of system management as well as reducing system crashes with windows only based drivers. The root level of control is amazing and the performance makes the lastest gaming windows 11 system look like a 286 from 1989. Like I said, it was so many mods and so many complexities I lost track of the what I did and the and software I needed. The loss was terminal. It was years of f'n around and keeping up with changes in the world of PC tech and software.

[@iceManSwag]

I remember when Windows 2000 came out I installed it on my Windows 98SE machine Pentium 2 450Mhz, 128Mb ram I think I had, CREATIVE RivaTNT 2 ultra 32Mb SDRAM. I was amazed how well the mouse moved & how corporate Windows 2000 felt. I remember it was slower in 3DMark by 1000 points. It was very stable not BSOD's like Windows 98SE. I think it would be fun to see Windows 2000 on a modern PC I think most drivers should install.

[@CotyRiddle]

2000 would install and boot fine for the most part even nt 4 would

[@jondonnelly3]

I have done this, it is possible with discreet graphics, sound, possibly lan too and a lot of unofficial updates and patches can even browse the Internet, but it's not as fast as you'd think it would be. XP is a big step forward and in classic theme with 2000 icon icons it's hard to tell them apart. XP is easier to get working and some people still use it today. I look after a school that only just changed out the XP machine this summer. They just didn't give us any bother. Libre office, Gimp, VLC, various browsers and retro games too. Sad to see it go, replaced with 😭 100% locked down windows 10. Where we cant even boot from usb.

[@iceManSwag]

@@jondonnelly3 Windows XP not so challenging to get working like something older as Win 2000 or older. Could off course be still fun even to get XP running.

[@killanotterinasecond]

Ahh this is nostalgic. I had a Riva TNT 2. My first proper graphics card. I believe it was a Pentium III 450mhz system, although I can't remember how much ram.

[@MarkWhich]

Any machine that can install XP can also install 2000, but 2000 is more sensitive to hardware changes, which can suddenly render it unbootable, which is then a time-comsuming process to get working again.

[@excess.subiefl0w]

Awesome video! Amd lives up to the name Advanced Micro Devices for sure!

[@jevinlownardo8784]

And Intel not intelligent enough to teach an old folks some new tricks

[@kght222]

even back in 1999 the computer store i worked at didn't install windows from a cd or disks, we put a backup copy of the cabs on the computer anyway, we installed from the hdd. our perspective was that we were going to have a backup of the windows cabs on the drive anyway, why waste time.

[@GalaxyCat001]

There is a setting in the start up config that can tell win98 to limit ram used to 512 or 1 gb etc. I used it on an older Athlon 64 PC to limit ram to 2gb, also had Rob's memory patch on the PC. Ran perfectly. Though the ram limit was not read if starting in safe mode so would need to drop ram to under 2gb if I really needed to go into safe mode which was very rare.

[@doctorletsplay]

11:58 If I recall correctly Windows 98 didn't support more than 1 core by Default. This was updated in Windows 2000

[@chrisrudi7162]

I have an Intel Core2Duo E8400 with 2x 3 GHz, 1 GB DDR2 800 and Windows 98 SE. Win98 works with GeForce 7900 GT, 2x Voodoo 2 Cards SLI and inofficial Drivers on P35 Chipset. The Voodoo Cards are connected via PCI to PCI Express Bridge.

[@cristirado_official01]

Try changing Hardrive configuration on BIOS to IDE instead of AHCI (SATA ). A few modern Motherboards can still emulate IDE configurations.

[@MrCoweater]

I totally want to see MS Dos 6.22 on a modern PC! :D Although I read somewhere that the last pc with 16bit extensions for running Dos code was an old 775 socket like the Core 2 Duo or Quads.

[@Mini-z1994]

Well as long as you got some legacy bios functionality an AMD Ryzen system should manage too boot dos still actually, ofc getting things like sound. (Due too missing soundblaster compatibility or even pc speakers on motherboards.) Resolutions & color modes like cga, ega etc... & game speed working normally is a whole different story.

[@dylancullar2490]

I've been playing dos games on freedos from an sd card natively on my modern dell latitude. Had to change a few bios settings but everything works apart from sound. It's a dell latitude E7450.

[@daveamies5031]

I once installed WFW (Windows 3.11) on a Pentium 166 with 128MB of ram and it ran quite well, I was still able to get drivers for everything I needed and with so much ram even things like photoshop launched in under a second, but the only issue was it was a little unstable and would crash occasionally. In my opinion Windows 2000 was peak windows, it was the most stable and didn't have any unnecessary bloat, but XPSP3 with the garish blue/green start menu disabled was pretty good too, after that Windows has gone down hill, with stuff being added to make it harder to install/maintain and extra bloat to make it slower.

[@NomadicDmitry]

I totally agree. Win2K was the best. If only they have went that route without all that gloss - that would be great.

[@blackterminal]

Windows 10 is more reliable than 7. The faster boot is great.

[@daveamies5031]

@@blackterminal On the same hardware? Often it's newer hardware (especially SSD's vs spinning disks) that give the impression of being faster to boot. I'll bet that Windows 7 and 10 are both painful on a desktop machine from 2000 if they will even run.

[@kght222]

you just did install ms-dos on a modern computer. windows 98 and windows 95 are just gui wrappers on dos with some bells and whistles. all you have to do is copy the dos directory to the hdd, "downboot" into dos (or create a boot manager that shortcuts without booting windows) and poof, you are in dos. dos 6.22 is so easy to install that all you need is a boot disk with the sys program on it and a harddrive with the dos directory on it.

[@RamtechENG]

You are god damn right

[@OussaX-k9v]

things have gotten so much easier than they used to be. i remember installing drivers on floppies and actually setting jumpers for irq setting.

[@TheEifelis]

WOW!!! I just installed a fresh Windows 98 on modern HW few weeks ago and I would love to view this kind of video then. Now I finished and it's not actual for me anymore. Anyway - I felt your struggle during installation. It took me like few nights to install everything. And few more days to install specific PCI card for medical equipment and find drivers. This is why I did need W98. Anyway I looked your video from start to finish. Thanks :) P.S. My PC was with DDR3 and I had a spare 1GB stick - it was a miracle, but it did show all of 1gb without memory patch. And for GPU I did use "VBEMP 9x Project" GPU drivers. As for the error during normal boot - In my case I found out that Advanced Power Management driver was causing errors. I did uninstall it and disable and it allowed to boot normally. Oh and one more thing - windows 98 DON'T like changing memory stick placement. If you installed on one stick in slot 0 then it should be left like that. This was one issue that I had for a long time. Maybe you can try again if have energy to do it once more :)

[@shorty808100]

i miss windows 98 was one of my all time favorite windows versions, something i don't miss is MS DOS being the main OS of a pc

[@RetroSmoo]

For those who want to try win98, i recommend using PCEm or Dosbox Pure

[@The10021k-guy]

I use PCEM for most of my retro needs. I do have a physical windows 98 machine but it's very buggy lol

[@BackroomsSlayer]

I use vmware.

[@jondonnelly3]

Core 2 duo 8400 , G31 + radeon x850 XT PE 1GB Ram DDR2 + SB Live is what I use and runs flawless. With a 3dmark 2001 score of 40k. Tis fast is really unnecessary but fun :D An 8800 GT might work with modded drivers and 4GHz overclock on cpu to go ballastic fast.

[@jondonnelly3]

Faster rig in progress e8600 to get the higher multiplier, ddr3, 7800GTO comming in the post. 8800gt didn't work for me with ME and dosbox distro dual boot. That's the final form, probably. I have to use dosbox distro as machine is so fuking fast games do weird things. Dosbox distro boots from usb stick on top on tiny core Linux which is hidden away. Works pretty nice. Then again it also kinda makes all retro dos machines completly pointless.

[@Brunorego80]

I have a Core 2 Quad Q8200 with 4GB RAM, Geforce 7900GTO PCI-E (256MB RAM) with the Tweaked Unofficial NVIDIA Display Driver 82.69 and an Audigy 2. The Geforce 8000 series and later are not supported, unfortunately. In terms of CPU, there are a lot more possibilities.

[@Ravensfan-qx5pc]

It cool that you got Win 98 to work on 2006 era hardware. Building an "overkill" Win 98 PC is fun if you can get cheap parts. I might give that a shot myself. I have a few socket 775 machines collecting dust.

[@Ravensfan-qx5pc]

​@@Brunorego80 I am curious on well it can game, or rather what the most recent game it can play and run smoothly. Like, I tried running Halo CE on my rig and it was pretty much a slide show. Specs: Pentium 4 - 1.5 GHZ RAM - DDR1 512 MB GPU - Geforce 6800 OC 256 MB 30 GB PATA HDD

[@Ravensfan-qx5pc]

Call of Duty 1 play fine w/o any issues. Call of Duty 2 would attempt to run, but throws up an error saying it needs Win 2000 or newer.

[@See_Sharp]

If you can make your own drivers then you could run Win98 on any modern PC.

[@vidmantaskvidmantask7134]

Maybe someone will create those drivers. Who knows...

[@TomBudin]

10:45 that mono to stereo spread

[@londongaz2]

I remember a similar problem using a VM. I had to use another patch enabling it to run with faster CPUs- then it worked OK. Wish I could remember what it was called!

[@BackroomsSlayer]

in vmware set the hardware settings to 6.5x. In 95 hardware settings higher than 5x cause problems.

[@nuherbleath461]

4:00 if you type in /L at the startup prompt you can enable a Logitech mouse driver. This stops the weird mouse movement

[@ferry602]

Can't you define mouse driver in the config.sys file?

[@greatkingrat]

My working career included selling Windows 98SE gaming PCs (voodoo etc) so most of the fixes I was aware of. I must say, I don’t miss the old PC days. I am glad we have what we have now.

[@machdaddy6451]

My first thought when I saw this is that you're going to have driver issues. Massive respect for your persistance!

[@mumblety]

Installing MS-DOS should be a lot easier. I managed to install it on a fairly modern laptop mostly without trouble. The main issues that I ran into was driver issues.

[@MarkWhich]

Your better off installing FreeDOS, It's completely free and compatible with nearly all old MS-DOS software, and it supports modern things like USB Mouse, USB Keyboard, onboard Audio, NTFS File systems, larger amounts of RAM, etc etc.

[@X-FAKTOR84]

Did you try with Windows 98 second edition? If it doesn't work with it, the only option to enjoy the operating system is with a virtual machine 😢 If the resources used by windows 98 were also used in modern operating systems, modern computers would be extremely fast. Each new system requires more and more, and supposedly they are made lighter.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

RIP Rudolph. A true hero.

[@DarkAlaranth]

Might be worth disabling the extra CPU Cores, pretty sure Win98 only handled single core CPUs, you were expected to use NT4.0/2000 for multicore CPUs

[@bdhale34]

NT 4.0 Workstation supported 2, Server supported 4 and Enterprise supported 8. And it wasn't multicore it was multi-cpu, my NT 4.0 WS CD says 1-2 CPU x86,alpha,mips.

[@jedixo]

@@bdhale34 NT 3.x also supported multiprocessors. workstation 2 & server 4 respectively.

[@BackroomsSlayer]

The maximum ram that Windows 98 can boot with is 1 gig. If you add more, you will be stuck in a boot loop and this is after the 512mb limitation patch is applied. 1gig is a hard limit for 98, also there are processor speed limitations as well that may cause system instabilties and crashes if the speed is too fast and it may prevent booting. a similar cpu speed issue exists on 95 as well as the most recent processor it will run on is a pentium pro.

[@Dave_en]

I had 1GHz VIA C3 processor which was equivalent to Pentium 3 and 256MB RAM. Windows 95c installed fine and used the drivers meant for windows 98SE. Maybe some architectural problems in later Intel CPUs.

[@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288]

imagine being Windows98 and one day waking up on a PC with 64Gb of DDR5Rams and an RTX4090. i can see Win98 looking around and screaming 😱 😱

[@katrinabryce]

A 3950X is has 64MB of L3 Cache, which is way more than most computers had RAM back in the days. So you wouldn't actually need to use the RAM at all for most things.

[@rayphoenix7296]

I watched a video where a guy tried installing Windows 98 on a modern 2019 laptop. It didn't work due to the fact that Windows 98 is 9x based. He then installed Windows 2000 instead and it barely worked. The sound didn't work and it had no internet connectivity. The graphical drivers didn't work either and the picture looked awkwardly stretched and the color was washed out. This is because Windows 2000 was not made to run on modern computers. This is why they invented virtual machines.

[@stefhannington2218]

Would you mind running ibm's OS/2 Warp on a modern computer and surf the Internet etc? 🤔😂

[@jondonnelly3]

Hmm it will connect to the Web, but the browsers available wont render modern Web pages most likely. Windows 2000 with kernel ex and blackwingcats updates and I think a custom compiled ghecko based browser worked quite well. KZbin worked, if he can find a modern browser for it it will would be cool as fuk. I'm so bored I might even try it myself.

[@marblox9300]

I would love to be able to install ME to newer hardware because much of my old pre XP software and games just refuse to like XP and newer OSs. Microsoft sucks as everything becomes obsolete when they COULD make it work if they wanted to.

[@O_mores]

I can run Windows 3.11, Windows 95 and 98/Me on my Ryzen 3900X machine with 64/32GB RAM. (not all accessible of course, but the amount of physical RAM doesn't matter as long you use builtin limiter in system.ini ) For Windows 3.11 you can find a video on my channel, more to come soon. On this very compatible Ryzen 3900X machine machine I have I got the "vcache" error when I upgraded the BIOS. So there something going on at the BIOS level...

[@NomadicDmitry]

I've tried Windows 98 on Core 2 Quad and was able to achieve it in Safe Mode. It's not as modern as that PC, though. Long story short. Better to grab an old latop for Windows 98 instead of trying all that.

[@itmkoeln]

I did 9x (ME) on a 4Core Dual Vista which is by design VIA PT880 chipset the newest board that has drivers for 9x. And it supports upto a E6600 and E7600 Core 2 Duo (which both should make for the fastest 9x CPU as C2Ds have a higher per Clock Performance on single core than any of the Pentium 4 and D.) after all the 7600 was built on the newer Wolfdale/Penryn node. Per Core the performance in that Generation was higher on Dual Cores than on Quad Cores (after all the Core 2 Quads were glued together Core 2 duo). Making the E8600 and any 8500 and 8400 that could be clocked at 8600 speeds the fastest LGA775 in Single Core Performance.

[@BackroomsSlayer]

It only sees one core. The other will never be used.

[@whiteshipcentral4767]

The reason why you're getting an "NTLDR is missing" error message when upgrading from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 is quite simple, Windows 2000 is a version of Windows that Microsoft made after they made Windows NT so it uses the same technology in it's Kernel, Windows 98 is a DOS based Operating System like the other versions of Windows that came before it, Windows 2000 is an NT based Operating System, that's why you needed to do a complete clean install rather than an upgrade...

[@tdm3bros]

install first ever windows version

[@stricikli]

♡ your channel. You put so much effort in this video. I was looking for some chill content about retro stuff, and boooom found this one

[@stricikli]

in the end of a tiring day, I needed nothing else but this gem. thank you :)))

[@Magnus_Loov]

This makes you appreciate that we have virtual machines.

[@remo27]

While I appreciate that he chose to do this the hard way, I , myself , was thinking why bother? Even if you can get it to work, look how much you have to cripple the modern machine in order to let it run. Windows 98 was made at a time when 256 megabytes was alot of system memory. Your processor would be single core and neither AMD nor Intel had even yet hit the 1Ghz mark as far as clockspeed (though that would come pretty soon). MMX was still only 3 or 4 years old at the time. The internet was still mostly accessed via telephone dial-up, and speeds were such that even News sites often had only a few very grainy and often black and white videos and a few dozen mostly small .jpg pics that would often take a minute or so to download themselves. A modern machine has to sacrifice pretty much all its computing power and memory and run special, hacked or hacked together drivers to even get the system to limp along, so why bother? Just use a VM if you like the OS's features or interface so much. Ironically, Windows 98 in a VM actually runs BETTER than it runs natively anymore, plus you can still use the rest of your machine.

[@Magnus_Loov]

@@remo27 To make some use of the modern hardware, I think Windows XP 64 would have been the earliest OS. But it, if I remember correctly, had quite a few problems with drivers and app compatibility that Windows Vista 64 for some strange reason didn't have. So maybe you would have had to go all the way to 'Windows Vista. And that, frankly, isn't so far off from current systems. And you would still be limited by the app support for browsers and and other apps. And probably drivers too. No reason not to go virtual for practical usage. But only for fun some people do installs like this. It is kind of the same thing with people who install old OS:es on their own assembled hardware. Like a "Dos-gaming" Pc with a 486 with Vesa Local bus that I saw somebody building. Maybe with the exception for some sound card drivers for external midi all that can probably be done in a VM. Probably with less energy expending too since newer hardware is more efficient and will use next to nothing when running these old OS:es and programs.

[@nicolasdecondorcet2431]

@@Magnus_Loov If I have 4GB RAM and Win 11, can I install virtual machine with Windows XP and give them 0,5GB or it will be problem for Windows 11? Because 4GB is a minimum requirement for Win 11.

[@Magnus_Loov]

@@nicolasdecondorcet2431 I don't know. It sounds very restrictive with 4 GB to me. It probably will use the pagefile a lot (swapping between RAM and the harddrive. If you don't have an SSD then it will be really slow, if it runs at all).

[@nicolasdecondorcet2431]

@@Magnus_Loov I have 512GB SSD. Can give 256MB memory for virtual XP. It schould be enough. Perhaps, virtual need more. But is possible to install virtual XP in 32 Bit on Win 11? Isn't any restrictions? Microsoft would like earlier blocked that to force buying a new system or computers.

[@aboudisofyani5523]

Windows 98: YAY IM BACK Person: no Windows 98: please don't d- Person no (unplugged the pc)

[@casualretrocollector]

My Lenovo T420 runs / dual boots win10/DOS/Windows 98 very well. I am using the vbe9x display drivers and the walters world intel high definition audio driver and I can play all my 90s windows games on it.

[@World_of_OSes]

Easier just to use VMware.

[@toonktoonk]

but thats really cool to have a real pc running it

[@rarapas]

Commander Keen is an MS-DOS game. You can't run any proper DirectX etc game in 9x without graphics drivers, and for nVidia, the last known cards that do, with modded drivers, is the Geforce 7xxx series. 6xxx has proper drivers. And even with that, for a PCI-E card, to get the driver working, you need to install the driver and afterwards remove the "standard VGA driver" from the devices list on 98. The newest PC I successfully had a proper Win98 installation (with chipset/gpu and on a SATA drive in legacy mode) was a s775 with E8xxx CPU and a 6800 pci-e GPU. For sound I went with SB-Live! 1024 as I wanted DOS emulation :) Also, there's a DOS memory manager that actually replaces himem and limits the RAM, no need for the patch with that one. (Mr Loew 's work hadn't been released freely yet)

[@elbmw]

Maybe I misunderstood your comment but I can run pretty much any DOS game on my Win10 PC through DOSBox. I do remember that I had to change some settings in the DOSBox config file to slow the speed of the game and the size of the window to ran maximised in one of my 23" monitors. BTW this is on an overclocked Sapphire Radeon RX590 Nitro+ Special Edition running the latest compatible Radeon drivers with Adrenaline.

[@rarapas]

@@elbmw MS-DOS games do work as they don't rely on Win98, hence they don't need video drivers.. Contrary, proper windows games, especially directX games on windows 98 require drivers to function :)

[@BackroomsSlayer]

I installed directx 9.0c in 98 successfully.

[@alonia09]

"2024" Video uploaded in: 2022 👁👄👁

[@Memesarehealthy78]

well he just edited the title

[@alonia09]

@@Memesarehealthy78 yeah

[@themusesquad8554]

Try creating a big ram drive and leave only 512mb ram. Worked for me.

[@Thatlittlegreekkid]

Next: can windows 98 work on a toaster?

[@kylefox8822]

Short answer is as long as you can legacy bios boot, windows 98 should be able to load to the desktop. There will be little to no driver support as Win98 doesn't understand PCIe architecture. There you're good

[@Kianmartinmira478]

*" hey that's a cool pc what games does it run?"* pinball..

[@XihuiCheng]

I have always believed that using AI instead of manual dubbing can greatly improve work efficiency and effectiveness. Voxbox, a text-to-speech tool, can achieve realistic dubbing effects. I recommend you give it a try

[@RamtechENG]

Thank you. I wax thinking about that, but how I will improve my English then ? :)

[@josephaltman460]

Imagine trying to run a modern PC with 512MB! 😆 🤣 😂 😹

[@Winnetou17]

You can do that with Linux

[@johnkovacs1318]

you are a bracer soul then I, I would have just used virtual machine (and have but nostalgia ran out pretty fast after the initial boot sounds as I didn't think it would work and had nothing planned afterwards lol), as well love the Russian words helps me in my language skills (even if all I can do is see and understand the letters but not what they mean in a word lol). Would like to see more you are still doing these.

[@ThatTechChannel101]

man's answering all the hard questions for us lol

[@sleepless3y3s]

Thanks. Now I now why I can't pass even Windows Me "Setup is copying system files". I was trying it on my Core2Duo with 2Gb of RAM.

[@lol_midas]

why is at 8:38 the german version of windows 98 ??

[@RamtechENG]

Because I’ve tried a lot of different versions

[@carlosrodrigoloureiro8510]

You Need a Radeon X300 PCIExpress (drivers Windows 98) and a Sound Blaster Live PCI (drivers Windows 98). Then you Will have a good instalation.

[@yussef961]

i tried it but just couldn't find a driver that worked for my lan card .the pc is from 2015 could find Realtek drivers for 98 but it would fail to start etc didn't want to bother i bought a laptop from ebay for 90 euros already with 98 in it i have been using ms dos 6.22 and win 98 on an older pc and had no issue cause it was from this time

[@johnwilliams8818]

Curious if you tried to get W98 to install modern hardware drivers? Or perhaps try using modern Windows basic drivers? The Device Manager "might" recognize the inf files and ? Now I want to try it 🤣 I have my CDs "I think" back to W95... I wonder if I could clone it onto my SDXC card and run it on windows 11 under compatibility?

[@Kestasification]

Is this the end? - Of course not.😁 love it

[@PabloBonutti]

Top 5 anime lines

[@vatonix84]

Think of it like this, it’s like running a brand new car with n 40 year old lead fuel. It’ll run but it’s rough as hell.

[@MetalMe55iah]

i remember working as a kid in my uncles computer shop i had putting rigs together and installing windows 98 done in about half an hour fun times

[@MarkWhich]

With a fair a bit of tweaking, I managed to install Windows 98 on a modern PC, but it wasn't useful, I was stuck in low resolution, no audio, and finding drivers, is practically impossible.

[@gentuxable]

Win98 shows each display output as separate graphics card. My single 9550, which is supported under 98, shows two cards in device manager.

[@MGRracing]

I installed win98 on an i5-750 with 128GB ssd and pcie. I unpacked the win98 SE service pack 3 iso on to another partition. I booted with Windows 2000 pro CD and booted to dos without setting up Windows 2k. I then ran the Windows 98 setup from the SSD and it took less than 5 minutes to install and takes less than 5 seconds to boot 😅

[@mikeg2491]

What I wouldn’t give to run 98 or XP on modern hardware and have seemingly lightning quick speed on every app you throw at it. It is still bizarre to me in 2022 you can open up something as simple as Office on a modern fast machine and it still takes a good 10-15 seconds to load, even longer sometimes on other similar productivity apps.

[@robinwilliams5348]

I wonder if NT could see the other cores as second CPUs as I think that was when they introduced multi-cpu support

[@zach446]

nt will see multiple cores yes

[@itmkoeln]

9x by design is single core. Which means that something like a C2D 6600 (Conroe) or 7600 (Wolfdale) on an Asrock 4CoreDualVsta (if you could find one as boards like these are rare) I got a decent 4CD last year locally in Hamburg. Mine came with basically initial bios and a low spec Pentium D. One bios flash and 2€ spend on eBay later I have the C2D e7600, the newest arch chip that is according to AsRock supported on the 4CD I chose the 7600 over the 6600 because the ipc on the Wolfdale chip should be better than on that Conroe

[@jadhal6649]

Sir If you have windows 98 cd Or windows 2000 cd or win nt cd Or windows xp cd Boot from these cd with cd drive which work for above os as boot Then goes dos promt drive or command prompt Then goes in setup.exe of windows 98 cd through dos by typing dir name. Then type setup exe It definitely work. Or use windows 2000 nt xp or 7 and goes in dos mode . Windows 2000 and nt gives support dos mode and run setup.exe of windows 98. I have used in 2011 to 2014 year . 9 years ago At that time I have Pentium 4 process and old motherboard of 2004 and ide hdd and ide DVD drive and ide floppy drive 3 and half 1.44 mb . And old crt monitor with old motherboard cd . In 2014

[@MarkRayers]

Install MS-DOS 6.22, himem.sys will be a nightmare unless you remove it from config.sys by pressing f5 on startup

[@Genirc]

it could be an issue with the fact that it uses sata instead of ide or scsii

[@jangelelcangry]

I've Installed windows 98 and mE on an X79 board. You need a 1G stick to make it work, but it won't detect any GPU you install on it. It will only detect it as the generic display driver. On the other hand, LGA 1155 seems to work fine if you have at least 2-3 PCI slots.

[@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365]

I remember seeing last year that the VCACHE issue was fixed/patched by someone. Win98 can be installed on modern Intel CPUs again.

[@teengames4865]

It's your CPU. I remember trying to do the same with Windows 95 and it was because the CPU was too fast.

[@paveljelinek772]

Is it really strange that cpuz shows only 1core 1thread??? Why? Win98 can utilize only 1core, no multithreading! So 1 core 1 thread is all you ever get from it!

[@XLGaming]

simple answer: no, it cant. slightly more complex answer: yes, but it requires a lot of fiddling and workarounds that most people wouldn't want to do. Windows 98 was designed around old hardware, and wont run natively on modern hardware without something to make it think your computer is old.

[@centurion8446]

I didn't think you could go above 256mb RAM with WIndows 98? DOS can be weired with DVD drives as it can't recognise more than 2GB HDD space so a literal CD-ROM is required...

[@v12alpine]

How the heck did windows 98 detect your sata hard drive for installation, especially if it couldn't detect your sata CD ROM? I'm really surprised it had support for modern SATA chipset since you can't force "IDE" mode in BIOS like you used to. Or did you install and boot it onto the USB stick?

[@RamtechENG]

Into USB stick

[@davidg5898]

Fun experiment! If you do end up trying MS-DOS, see if you can get Windows 3.1 working on it.

[@dylancullar2490]

i got windows 3.1 to run on my modern (2014) dell latitude E7450 with 8gb of ram, but only in standard mode.

[@astrailiaous_Sempticreed]

Are you serious??! I have all of these laptops rams sitting in my dresser and I could've used an adapter all this time???!!!! God dang it! I'm mad but relieved.

[@KeinNiemand]

Fun fact Windows 11 still has that It is now safe to turn of your computer screen, I think you can force it to appear with some registry tweaks

[@XdAlchile]

Gpedit trick

[@gabriellejacquiet9925]

Great video, really interesting as I - obviously - never tried this myself, I didnt know it was this tedious to get working

[@enderbo]

2.8 GHz or less: *works with no patches* 2.9 GHz or more: *works with Fix95CPU*

[@hero1123]

I have a pc with the same amd cpu as your friend's (amd ryzen 5 2400g)

[@Stefan_trekkie]

I have tried to run XP on PC designed for win 10.. At the boot start i get the blue screen message that the windows it too old and will not run on my PC

[@jessicapearson9479]

Why can't you just wipe everything out completely then just get the windows 98 cd install and install it?

[@_Leouch]

12:00 win98 support up to 1 thread and 1 core and 1 cpu :)