Can Women Minister in the Church? - Greg Mohr - CDLBS for February 28, 2023

[@hannahgene7326]

I needed this so much. Praise God for His word!

[@maryfolks9368]

I love God with all my heart and I am seeking Him with all my heart. What the pastor said in the very beginning before he started teaching about God giving him a word to share with someone watching... was for me and I'm sure others too. I've been asking God to help me see where I'm making a mistake or not understanding because I don't feel the presence of God that so many other Christians do. I know we're not to trust our feelings so this has been especially hard for me. I desire a stronger relationship with God and want Him to be pleased with me. I've been reading my Bible more than ever so I know God loves me, I just don't know the difference between my own thoughts or if it's the Holy Spirit within me. 🤷‍♀️ Thank you very much, you have no idea how much I needed this. God bless you.

[@ex-Hort-23]

Explained beautifully

[@venusabraham1795]

Excellent explanation of this SENSITIVE issue🙏

[@AndrewWommackMin]

Hello Venus. Thank you for your kind words. God Bless you! - AWMI Team

[@deborahhenry8980]

Very Nice Hairstyle, Julianne!!

[@mp1k3]

How can a women be the husband of one wife? 1 Timothy 3:2 "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;" We must bring ourselves under subjection to the book, don't change the book to fit your mindset.

[@drayburn50]

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Amazing that people will listen to Paul as if Paul knew more than Christ. Yet Paul grew up and finally followed Jesus commands You that will be CHIEF let them be the servant of all. Romans 16:1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: Women have the same Holy Ghost that men have and it is the Holy Ghost that does the True teaching, leading, sailing, etc.

[@pollyjetix2027]

I think he missed it on this one. 1 Timothy 2 was written in Greek, which has different rules of grammar than English has. So we miss a key element in that passage: Paul switches from talking about "women" (plural) to talking about ONE woman (singular.) In English, this doesn't matter. We can do that and still be talking about women in general. But you can't do that in Greek. Which means: Paul was talking to Timothy about ONE woman in particular, that needed to sit down and be quiet. Why? Because she was a false teacher. Ephesus was completely dedicated to the worship of Artemis (aka Diana.) In fact, it was law that every religion was allowed in Ephesus, but only if they also incorporated the worship of Artemis. What were the core principles of Artemis worship? 1. She was the guardian of women in childbirth. But to gain her protection, a pregnant woman had to do specific rituals in her temple. 2. Artemis was an archer. A huntress. BUT. Mythology taught that she turned her male human opponents into bulls, and then shot them... and then pinned their testicles to her chest, as trophies. Google "image of Artemis" and you'll see ancient Greek statues that show her this way. 3. Women were seen as spiritually superior to men. Therefore, women were to be the spiritual leaders. Any male leader was to be manipulated and bossed by women. If he refused to submit, then stronger measures were advocated. Ardent devotees of Artemis would devote their lives to these principles. 4. Every religion that entered Ephesus would be infiltrated by these women, who tried to enforce the law. They would change the mythology taught by those religions, creating strange new cults. Knowing this, the last portion of 1 Timothy 2 becomes very clear. A female false convert was trying to do as she had been taught all her life. She was trying to mix Genesis 1 with Artemis principles. The creation story was flipped upside down, with Eve being created first. (First is best, according to pagan thinking. but not Biblically.) And Adam had to be the one deceived, if Eve was spiritually superior. And this woman was telling pregnant women they were in danger of evil things happening during childbirth if they didn't partake of pagan temple rituals! Now the passage makes sense, doesn't it? 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is also easily understood, if you understand the cultural and historical context. 1. This book was written to answer a long-lost letter written from Corinth to Paul. That letter contained questions, which Paul was answering. 2. "as also saith the law" -- what law? The Old Testament never said women were to keep silence. Nor did the Law of Moses ever say a woman was to obey her husband. (Abigail disobeyed her evil husband and called him a fool behind his back -- and was rewarded for it!) Actually, the law 1 Cor 14:34 refers to is just about word-for-word out of the Talmud. In the first century, the ancient parts of the Talmud weren't yet written down. This was the ORAL LAW of the PHARISEES. It was the teachings of the founding rabbis of the pharisees, who had died 200 years prior to the time of Christ. (That why they called them "them of old time" -- and Christ referred to them using that phrase in the Sermon on the Mount.) Did Paul ever tell Gentile Christians to keep the oral law of the Pharisees? ABSOLUTELY NOT! That is exactly the OPPOSITE of Paul's consistent stance. 1 Cor 14:34-35 are questions quoted from that long-lost letter. And Paul gives his answer in verse 36. "What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?" Paul is strongly OPPOSING the idea expressed in the previous 2 verses! And his reasoning is thus: Did the word of God come out of you (men)? No, the Word became flesh and came out of a woman. Mary. Or did the word come unto you (men) only? Absolutely not. There are portions of Scripture inspired through women. And God used women as prophetesses in the Old Testament, as much as the men would allow! Deborah and Huldah would have been stoned in Jesus' day. And Miriam would have, too. Because the Pharisees said a woman's voice was a vile thing and should never be heard in public. Pharisees made their wives walk 10 paces behind them, to keep them from talking to them in public. Pharisees invented the Women's Court of Herod's Temple to keep the supposedly unclean, vile creatures away from the altar of sacrifice. But God never said to do so. Hannah prayed inside the Tabernacle. Miriam led the people in song, just as other women were appointed to sing in Temple worship: see 1 Chronicles 25:5-6, and Ezra 2:65. God used King Lemuel's mother to inspire Proverbs 31. Huldah led the High Priest and the King through prophecy, to recognize the Law. Deborah shepherded Israel as a judge and prophetess. Isaiah's wife was called a prophetess. Elizabeth...Mary... Anna... Phillip's 4 daughters... all the women believers on the day of Pentecost... The Word came through them also. Paul would be horrified to see how those 2 passages of Scripture have been so ABUSED to say things Paul never intended.

[@naturelover4579]

Kathryn Kuhlman was married to a minister. He was preaching always, and she had no opportunity anymore. She was called by God. Katrhryn divorced him to get her Ministry back.

[@janetkramer9415]

Kathryn Kulman divorced her husband because she was out of God's will marrying a man who was married and a backslider. She felt the Holy Spirit's disapproval and could not live in peace losing the fellowship and great anointing she once had. These were her descriptions. Afterwards, she became greater in anointing than before. She now had her first love back!

[@vickiebell9798]

In those days and that culture the men and women were separated in the church. Women on one side of the chapel men on other so the men would not be distracted by the women. So what was happening the women would yell across the church to their husbands to ask questions about the sermon causing a disruption. So the women were asked to wait and ask husband when you get home.

[@vickiebell9798]

Don't cut it out just let the women understand it's best to discuss it with husband at home so there is not a disrespectful way toward the pastor whose teaching.

[@michellet5918]

Do you have a reference for this context information? Where did you find that out?

[@maryfolks9368]

​@@michellet5918 that's a great question, I'd like to know where that's at in the Bible too.

[@vickiebell9798]

I am in a study group that covered the Corinthians. One of our group leaders explained it. I will get the reference for you.

[@Kirstys635]

Men and women are made in God's image, women need love to perform at their best and men need respect to perform at their best, if men loved women the way they needed and women respected men the way they needed there would be hardly any problems in marriages or in society as a whole. Women disrespecting men and men refusing to show women the love and affection thry need breeds all of this feminism we see today and it also breeds men hating women and abusing women. Ofcourse there are other issues, but a large portion of it is at the root disobedience against what God commanded. He commanded husbands to love their wives and wives to respect their husbands and submit to them. Society has thrown things so far out of wack and away from God's perfect will that what God commands seems strange to people, yet being rebellious seems normal. And before people say to me "my husband hit me and abused me, how can you tell me to respect him?" Did you ever ask God who He has for you to marry ? Or did you Just marry the person that YOU felt like marrying? Marriage is a covenant between two people that GOD joins together for HIS purpose, It says "WHAT GOD HAS JOINED TOGETHER let no man tear asunder " It says God has already done it (HAS JOINED TOGETHER), which means when God created creation He already took into consideration your need of a Godly spouse and factored it in, so if you ask God He will lead you to that person He has for you as you seek Him first and His Kingdom. People doing everything their way and in their own wisdom has been the demise of mankind since the garden of Eden. Those that are already married when thry become saved are to stay married and be a good witness to their unsaved husband or wife, but it that unsaved spouse chooses to leave it says in the Bible you should allow it. You can then move in with your life and God can bring you a person He originally wanted you to marry.

[@raulpena9111]

I'm not a women hater first of all but the bible clearly states that women shouldn't preach at the church he is coming up with his own opinions and ideas

[@janetkramer9415]

The scriptures declare that in the end days woman as well as children will be anointed to preach. Deborah was a judge who lead the land and brought peace for forty years. Paul submitted to a man's three daughters who, Paul said were prophets. He agreed the man's daughters were gifted in prophecy.

[@8784-l3b]

Raul Complementarianism is a false teaching. At its center it supports a two-tiered priesthood based on birthright. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood... -excerpt 1 Peter 2 Reply for my full post 'Complementarianism' if desired. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. [I also suggest my short essay on Deborah.]

[@djuanjohnson7206]

Thanks for the clarity, the wife should minister without limits. While the husband submit.

[@GilbertEtsa]

Stop lying

[@brucegormam5608]

GOD wouldn't do anything, Noah's Flood