Can you ACTUALLY use Windows Longhorn in 2024?

[@InnerFire6213]

aero glass was one of the most beautiful windows design ever. I remember getting my first own laptop after school for college and it had vista. The first time experiencing vista was breathtaking

[@TechTinkerWorks]

I think it peaked in windows 7 and I really wish someone with good design skills would make a modern win7 theme. Not a copy but actually rethinking frutiger aero into 2024 style.

[@InnerFire6213]

@@TechTinkerWorks win 7 looks cleaner but vista has a certain allure. Jumping from xp to vista the graphics look unreal it’s akin to like witnessing the jump from ps1 to ps2. I played around with the transparency effect UI for quite some time lol it was too pretty.

[@ml11ML]

@@InnerFire6213 Totally agree. I still remember the first laptop we got with vista and how nice the os was to look at. Sadly I think it's a bit too obsolete to actually use for modern tasks nowdays, even my windows 7 install is just about barely usable, but it was good while it lasted and I never really experienced any problems people seemed to have with it (maybe because it was on pretty decent hardware?).

[@osstuff123]

"In normal software, the later builds are the most stable, but in Longhorn the later you go into pre-reset the most unstable it becomes"

[@CoreIceX]

Almost 20 years later and still Windows Longhorn fascinates people. I would say that is a pretty achievement for a operating system that never went to sale (in the pre-reset form).

[@betavideos]

Longhorn isn't that much interesting honestly. It's just a random mix-up between XP and Aero themes. Probably the real reason it fascinates people is because of the myth of the sound scheme (and maybe it being a beta build). No one in the general public can even fact-check it anyways because beta builds have a slightly complicated problem to be tackled first and people won't really notice what's the problem.

[@eMorphized]

Did you try using Server 2003 drivers? I heard they did some work under the hood for later builds that involved rebasing to the newer NT version.

[@athurV1]

Windows server 2003 is so stable and epic , everything just works .

[@murderer2022]

isn't longhorn based on Server 2003?

[@berkaybozoglu3726]

@@murderer2022 it is based on XP until the reset, after build 5000 it is based on Server 2003.

[@ArtisticTrex54]

I am glad someone made a video about this topic. I did this a few months ago on a pentium 4 system. I wanted to see if i could fix longhorn and make it more stable with patches but it was still a pretty bad experience. I tried to see of it is possible to daily drive it and almost no programs work properly.

[@vetrixfx9264]

I wonder if something like SigmaOS M6 would make a more stable experience

[@durmiss]

you actually kind of can, i got mypal 68 working on it and it loads sites fast, but videos wont play and games wont work (online games ofc, havent tried any actual game)

[@tennickjestzajety69]

@@durmiss it's because of the 'XP SP3 Compatibility Layer in Application Verifier.' Generally, build 4074 falls somewhere between XP SP1 and Server 2003, so its compatibility should be similar. Also, check out the Techvortal forum-even though it's in Polish, it's the author's board. Support from the first hand :)

[@MichiHax]

criminally underrated

[@The_Gun-2006]

Agreee

[@innerdiscarchive]

Using a 2014 Dell laptop as a main in 2024 is crazy

[@iiisaac1312]

I can already hear the army of 10 year old Optiplex owners mobilizing to tell you that their ancient system is "Just as good" as a modern one.

[@DeduceMousse]

I use a 10 year old laptop

[@ZovixYT]

I am running Archlinux on an office Dell Optiplex and it is literally perfect

[@samuel-wankenobi]

If it runs Linux it could be quite good for web browsing

[@JamesDee]

I use a x220T, a laptop from 2011 as my daily driver.

[@theREELdogman]

"I think this video is long as is" > proceeds with 30 second music outro

[@danialonderstal3564]

I used to use a build of longhorn back in the day, it was more stable for me than xp given my thrown together system. Used to use the xp drivers without issue and it had some vista features that gave me the impression longhorn was what vista was going to be

[@eth1111]

omg you're so underrated, kudos to you for going through the pain of installing that

[@Mystic4rrow]

Watching you using a Latitude E6530, reminded me of the time I used my Inspiron 3537 (i3 4th gen) as my main laptop until 2022. Kudos to you for being able to work with old hardware in 2024. I own a 2022 Latitude 5520 now and I personally seem to miss the slow and laggy-ness that my laptops had. Waiting for things to happen on my older laptops brought me lot of time to do other things.

[@NekKratos]

11:18 have you tried chaning the ProductID dword from regedit?

[@SEGACD32XMODEL1]

I thought I was the only one that loves Bejeweled Twist

[@Metallumtenebrarum-jt7rd]

same.

[@AICoverArchives]

Try one of the M5 builds like 4029

[@arthursuanderhus3599]

this is off topic, but what's the music you used for the outro?

[@lospolloshermanoslph]

Bejeweled Twist music?

[@clementpruvost8670]

You should try running a MIPS R4000 release of Windows NT 4 next

[@Lambdarevolution86]

I got hold of really early builds of longhorn back in the days. It was a 50% chance it was bricked after a normal shutdown and i had to remove my hdd and reformat in a different system soooo many times, It was such a pain that i never even wanted to try vista i ran xp all the way until 7 came out.

[@athemalive]

Explorer was slow because of WinFS. If you close that down, it is pretty stable.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

Still a better experience than using Windows 11.

[@RetroHobbyMag]

Yep; decades of poor practice has given us an entire generation of mediocre 'developers'. Not to worry, AI will be taking over this mantle before long.

[@rattiom]

Me when I lie

[@danielperales3958]

Me if i were based as fuck and a gigachad.

[@AI_KyunNotAnEgg]

Using bejeweled twist ost in a KZbin video is amazing

[@lakshayanand2007]

You should’ve given this a shot with build 4074 (idx.02). That build from my experience is the most stable out of all the Longhorn builds in the 40xx series. Edit: 4093 (main) is generally unstable like the other Longhorn builds but something’s are different. For example, this build was the first (iirc) to be a so called “componentised build”. Meaning several programs were to released in the near future.

[@Phoenix1984DK]

I loved the Vista UI, the OS looked so pretty. Far more gorgeous then OSX at the time.

[@nexus7tablet610]

Bios sleep options might need tweaking for correct resume.

[@edgii]

i remember installing longhorn on a northwood pentium 4 (and a very slow one at that!) took like 4 hours to install, good times atleast the drivers mostly worked and i was actually able to go online with it!

[@chromedud]

really sick video you earned a sub:)

[@auladlha7216]

why you didnt backup the driver from xp first ? / or you can try sigma os

[@m4nevra]

at 2:29 in the system properties window, the cpu shows up as "AMD Ryzen 5 7600K" lol

[@d9zirable]

its an X

[@wiredmind]

That was a VM demo of the build, you can see the VMWare display adapter in the hardware window too.

[@betapyteag]

Yeah haha I recorded that part in a virtual machine on my computer. Didn’t have any other footage of it handy.

[@nov2263]

i skipped Vista for the reason It was really bad with drivers and stability so I ran XP until Microsoft released Windows 7 pre-release in 2008/2009 (whichever year it was) because It was even bad at the final release

[@bukow_]

Longhorn needed to die so we could get a polished version of windows vista which I remember well. My first laptop had windows vista and I loved it.

[@cameronscene]

1:17 do you know what model of toshiba satellite this is ??

[@betapyteag]

Satellite 1905-S301

[@FloatSamplesGT710]

The biggest lie is the system sounds which is used by samsung, older builds uses xp sounds and some closer to vista builds uses vista sounds..

[@GolgothaBridge]

Even Microsoft Office took a while to open? No way!

[@appleleptiker]

I mean... idk. Considering that MS never even wanted you to know about the existence of Longhorn and that they never wanted you to use it... probably not.

[@jensv874]

What a suprise. Sleepmode dusnt work... Nothing new.

[@conpa18dany]

How much of the Windows Longhorn made it to Vista?

[@betavideos]

Are you talking about its features that made it to Vista? I know the Aero theme and related features, sidebar and gadgets. I don't really know any other features from Longhorn which made it into Vista other than those.

[@mat08267]

Very interesting video Makes me wanna play around with longhorn too

[@MotownBatman]

I had a Junk P2 Machine on my Desk 20 Years ago, that did Nothing but Test Real but Mostly Fake Longhorn Builds LOL What a Bunch of Junk, but I was Still Excited as hell to see what was gonna be new

[@gentuxable]

I think the Toshiba is just too new for Longhorn 4093 because Microsoft surely didn't have the very latest laptop in their dev teams. Surely a Pentium 4-PC with a GeForce 2 or 3 and a SoundBlaster Live would just work without any drivers at all.

[@TechWithMarc]

I picked up a laptop just as PC World was phasing out XP and pushing Vista HARD - I ended up with a Toshiba for £550 with a dual core, 'ATI Graphics' and 1GB of DDR2 RAM, Vista chugged HARD, even when I maxed it out at 2GB of RAM about 3 to 6 months later it was better but still chugged - I eventually upgraded it to Windows 7 and it performed better but still not great. I think a lot of the issue with Vista was that it was too resource hungry for the average new computer of that period - It became more stable in SP2 but was horrific.

[@JustinTrella]

Vista was resource hungry and many people coming off of XP still had machines that were way underpowered. When 7 launched by that time people were ready for new hardware etc...

[@TechWithMarc]

@@JustinTrella Couldn't agree more! The hardware of the time was not ready for Vista - Even the 'New' Hardware which was being sold. - I actually got that laptop out yesterday and turns out it's actually a Packard Bell! Managed to Bodge Windows 7 on an SSD on it and it still works!

[@pmr1049]

Bought a Packard bell back in 2008 that had Vista on it, It run flawless with its intel core 2 quad, 4GB of ram and 500 GB hdd for years, later upgraded it to win 7 after a harddrive crash and sold it in 2015 to a friend who to this day still use it for recording dj mixes. Nice to see hardwares going on strong for years

[@TechWithMarc]

@@pmr1049 That must have cost a small fortune back then! A quad core in a laptop! I only recently within the last year retired a full desktop with a Q6600 quad, that thing ran like a dream for years! I do love old hardware - Proves if you look after something it'll go for ages!

[@saulbadman51]

hi, would you want to try to install windows or linux natively on phones? windows booting is much narrower, so you'd be more likely to boot linux

[@betapyteag]

Not likely. Don’t really have any phones other than my actual phone.

[@betavideos]

Not sure how possible it is to install Linux on phones.

[@saulbadman51]

@betavideos Its literally really easy to port, especially compared to windows, since you arent forced to use ACPI on windows

[@betavideos]

@@saulbadman51 I was thinking more about the problem between ARM64 architecture and x86-64 (though I guess that would only be a problem if you use certain distros).

[@saulbadman51]

@betavideos Linux supports ARM, and many other architectures because its open source, if Microsoft never released arm builds of windows, running windows on a arm phone wouldnt have been possible

[@tonyking2880]

try some older build like some milestone 5 or 6 next pls

[@cpyt]

Build 4020 is very cool

[@GuyWithATophat1st]

Nice video

[@danielperales3958]

And I still believed longhorn was just an urban myth lol

[@The_VRTerminator]

No way you used the castle theme from Mario and Luigi dream team at 2:45 - 2:46

[@NikhilSingh-007]

Excellent.

[@Jordansklar0698]

my main laptop is a hp elitebook 8570w core i7 3630qm and my main desktop is a lenovo thinkstation p520 with xeon w-2135 and 64gb ram and amd radeon rx 7600xt both run garuda linux kde lite

[@thepedro501]

windows vista beta in windows vista

[@e99g]

Subbed

[@ReaIYoBlue]

Cullen. You weren't him.

[@colton_936]

can't wait until AI can write custom drivers

[@aLinuxIce]

Sigma OS ? :D

[@Garfieldshowy_390]

Dude is using Modern browser on Windows longhorn 😮 13:44

[@nickconnor8667]

Im curious you seem like longhorn a lot why because of the cool name maybe

[@remixedcat]

put templeOS on the latitude!!

[@TheCSteve]

looks like windows 11 and vista and ME 🤪😜

[@patrickraunbakrytter5381]

You had just as much luck as a MichaelMJD video at its Best. Congrats😅

[@yajna3987]

yes

[@declanjamesbateson]

Try upgrading to Windows 10

[@AlexGamingConsole]

I was pretty sure longhorn was the code name for xo because i had a version of it before xps release

[@lindsaymobil22]

Whistler was the codename for XP. Longhorn was the codename for what was intended to be Vista until the development reset. After the reset it got the name Vista.

[@betavideos]

Longhorn is the codename for Vista, not XP (which is Whistler).

[@prezeskodaty4637]

windows longhorn could have been a good update for windows xp in 2014 year but they were late in fixing windows longhorn system

[@Goryglory0209]

Crappie st windows Vista

[@Jean0987654321]

TL;DW Nope

[@PrinceKufreAkai]

Try upgrading to Windows 11