Can you beat Chrono Trigger with only Crono?

[@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257]

Screw the legal system! I'm not subscribing to anyone!

[@tantacles]

This is the correct attitude.

[@bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257]

Okay, you've definitely earned my respect for actually pining my joking rebellion. I think I actually am going to subscribe to you now.

[@tantacles]

Ok, but don’t buy a boat

[@BirnieMac1]

@@tantaclesWhat about building my own to then sell?

[@devendarpalsingh3653]

@@BirnieMac1money

[@Darcnova1]

Poor Launch even gets forgotten when naming a character who looks very similar to her (Ayla)

[@SANT14GO]

@@rustyjones7908 kept* :(

[@renewagain6956]

We have a much better chance, has Toriyama was notorious for forgetting his own characters and lore. He even forgot that Super Saiyan 2 existed while writing the Buu arc. He had to be reminded by one of his staff when he submitted the design for SS3 as SS2.

[@christophergibson4834]

Came here to make sure this was noted.

[@DraycosTFM]

"Yet another reason why Chrono Trigger is my favorite game of all-time." You and me both, dude.

[@Aeldha]

Good 'ol Goku. He doesn't die when he's killed. You can't beat him, but you CAN join him.

[@apollolux]

"Can you beat Chrono Trigger with only Crono?" As at least one other comment already beat me to the punch to say, not only yes you can, but to obtain one of the New Game Plus endings (Developers' Room via facing Lavos using the NG+ Telepod portal before taking Marle back to the castle for the trial) it's pretty much a requirement! Through experimentation I found that not only can you trigger this sequence with only Crono solo before going to 600 AD, you can also still get the ending by going through the Telepod's NG+ Lavos portal while Marle is still in your party after you rescue her but before you take her back to the castle to trigger the trial. The Mature Lavos Shell is still an annoying battle with just two characters, but it's way more manageable than Crono by himself, especially since you have a healer.

[@soul_of_a_gamer]

Not naming Ayla Lunch was a missed opportunity.

[@AtomicBananaPress]

I'd have called Frog Trunks. Or...Trunx, according to the naming restrictions.

[@soul_of_a_gamer]

@@AtomicBananaPress that too was a missed opportunity

[@tantacles]

I blame taban for all of this.

[@iantaakalla8180]

I’m surprised Frog was never named “Ginyu” after the fact that Ginyu’s swap technique, until Super, was thwarted by a frog.

[@mackrjj]

"And i sob watching the final credits" I feel you, bro. CT is the best RPG of all time, pun not intended.

[@leetolasvegas1976]

You can actually skip the first part of the Lavas fight by flying in on the Epoch. It sacrifices the ship and gives a different ending.

[@odeofdespair]

He also didn't follow the narrative through to completion. The real end run of the game is the black omen, also by going through the black omen and fighting Queen Zeal you skip the boss rush when you face off against Lavos for the last time.

[@mwbwyatt]

Its crazy how old this game is, but has such a good combination of systems story and likeable characters that it STILL holds up to this day. Absolutely timeless rpg.

[@PlatinumAzure]

I honestly expected this to be a bit harder, but it didn't seem like there were that many bosses with a true wall of "must hit with some other element". Nicely done!

[@glennrugar9248]

I like how you used various square enix boss music when fighting bosses. I think there was even some persona mixed in too. Well done!

[@SirVyre]

By the laws of power levels and the fact that it's an intrinsic part of NG+ (it's the alternate requirement for the dev room ending, other being beat Lavos in Zeal before Crono's death), yes. Yes he can! With enough levels and tabs, almost anything is possible! My friend Moore once challenged me to solo Lavos with a level 37 Crono, and I did. Still be interesting to see the hiccups caused by trying to do it from the start of the game though.

[@tantacles]

Level 37 lavos is a pain. I salute you.

[@KnownAsKenji]

I tried it when I was 15 or so, almost got there but couldn't quite survive final Lavos' attrition tactics followed by big damage. It was guideless though, I could probably pull it off now with a tip or two, maybe I'll get back into that. Heck, maybe I'll do it with a different character (using hacking to force them in the party of course), just to make it more original.

[@tweedybird3404]

OH MY FUCKING GOD YESSSSSS, im so happy i found your channel

[@LeoSmashRoyale]

For what its worth, I love your challenge run videos. Its a lot of fun to see how crazy it can get.

[@tantacles]

Thank you!

[@LeoSmashRoyale]

@@tantacles You are most welcome!

[@TheLeviathan1293]

Tantacles: Chrono Trigger heavily depends on party sinergy. Child me: Luminaire+Flare+Dark Matter go brrrrrrr.

[@KnownAsKenji]

Same. Also the same mindset that assumes Marle is a staple healer, but is actually the worst character in almost every aspect.

[@mnm2317]

LOVE CT as well. I'm wondering if, and how, you'd challenge-run the game with almost any other character. Not having to revive Crono would be interesting.

[@tantacles]

Lucca is next. 🤓

[@mnm2317]

@@tantacles yesssssssss. I want them all lol

[@omicrex8527]

Between the CT, LotD, and FFIX challenges I feel like this chanel was made for me

[@dayphaser]

Comments are good for algorithms!! I liked the part where u beat the game with only crono

[@battdriver7553]

30:13 You missed a golden opportunity to make a laser nipples comment, it's how my young brain thought of that attack and can now never be changed. Also- great content as always

[@levnix1835]

The names are fitting. I felt like the end game FMV was like an alternate universe DBZ episode. I also recently started Dragon Quest VIII and named the main dude Goku because it suits that world too.

[@KnownAsKenji]

Well, alternate universes are canon in Dragonball Super, for all we know, Crono and the gang really are Goku and the gang in one of those universes.

[@mattvaughn8525]

You are the only youtuber running challenges on these beautiful games (which is crazy to me). I have a suggestion. Look up the youtuber dansg08 and how he runs his "attack only" final fantasy challenges (ffx attack only is the blueprint). He goes super in depth and releases videos in an episodic form. I've been waiting for the chosen youtuber who could do similar challenges with chrono trigger/cross. Appreciate the content :)

[@tantacles]

dansg is awesome

[@michaelcharlton5972]

A missed opportunity by not renaming Frog as Ginyu😂.

[@djarnelllim7299]

Glad your channels growing! keep on it!

[@chrisdixon7377]

Chrono trigger is my favorite game of all time too.

[@dark_side_cookies]

I have loved CT since the first time I played it. It is easily my favorite RPG to date. I play through it every couple of years and will surely do so until I'm vaporized by the great lavos eye beam. I remember there was a 100% speedrun of CT at GDQ one year, and right as the credits rolled they surpased $2 mil in donations for the first time. It was so emotional and the energy in the room was more electric than a Lightning 2.

[@tantacles]

I think I watched that run. Was it puwexil?

[@dark_side_cookies]

@@tantacles yes it was

[@tantacles]

It was awesome

[@ultralordkefka4681]

Love Kefka's theme, Dancing Mad. And the FF6 battle theme, and FF8 and Victory theme

[@alfonsoreyes3262]

You could go to ng+ and skip to lavos directly with only chrono at the beginning of the game, that way you truly finish chrono trigger with just chrono.

[@Gaspingindeath]

Awwwwwww yis, one of my favorite content creators playing one of my all time favorites. Thank you!

[@JoeBee9]

I remember flattening Giga using Chrono's Luminaire (does way more than Lightning 2) but you really have to grind a lot to get it at that point including getting all the 100AP's from the Rubble enemies on the way to the boss.

[@seancondon5572]

Okay, dude, look, Crono is Goku and Lucca is Bulma. You got that right. Marle is Blonde Chi-Chi. Frog is Vegeta (you'll get it if you watch the end-of-game cutscenes), Robo is Rick Astley (because duh), Ayla is Launch (in Blonde mode), and Magus is Piccolo.

[@SANT14GO]

The end of game cutscenes with Glenn looking like GT Vegeta weren't in the SNES version

[@maxspecs]

I always name the frog Ginyu, personally.

[@seancondon5572]

@@SANT14GO a fair point. They need to do what they did with the FF Pixel Remasters and release it on all modern platforms. Because we have the SNES version (good) PS1 and Mobile versions (dogshit) DS Version (excellent if you can get it) and the Steam version (decent)

[@demonking41-l8j]

Frog isn't Vegeta. Frog is Piccolo. Magus is Vegeta. I'll accept no substitutes for this. I am right.

[@seancondon5572]

@@demonking41-l8j okay. You win. I will allow you to continue living in your delusion.

[@servien9683]

Love this game and it was fun watching you so this.

[@BreathWeapon]

Fun fact, idling in the prison has Lucca save you plopping you into the torture chamber skipping the 1st few rooms

[@tantacles]

You’re gonna love the Lucca only run, then

[@elliotlangton181]

Hell yeah. Good to see some Chrono Trigger. Good work as always.

[@MZ117.]

I low key LOVE the DBZ references and FFVI music!

[@aaronstreet1054]

I would say, after two new game+ ‘s, yes you certainly could solo Crono indefinitely 😁👍🏻👍🏻

[@AldurSFC]

Love the content generally but this was the vidya that made me a Fantacles. :D excited for what you do next and seeya in the discoooordia

[@cronoluminara6911]

Heck yes thx bro ready to laugh when I get off

[@mb8226]

I wanna say Lucca’s based off Arale from Doctor Slump, Marle’s the Bulma clone, IIRC.

[@jruler93]

Lucca has Arale's purple hair and Bulma's tech wizardry.

[@PTp1ranha]

Usually I have Luminaire by the time I reach the Ocean Palace. Maybe I did some grinding though. While watching this challenge, I observed that the only other character who could meaningfully qualify for this is Lucca. With the exception of Truce Canyon and Guardia Forest (both eras), as well as the rare duel boss, there's nothing stopping Lucca from being in the active party for the entire game.

[@tantacles]

I think marle comes close. Doesn’t she only miss yakra?

[@PTp1ranha]

@@tantacles Yakra and the prison break, but yeah she’s close.

[@apollolux]

@@tantacles Sounds about right, except also Dragon Tank. - Get Marle at the Fair but lose her immediately after, regain her after beating Yakra, lose her right before the trial and regain her after beating Dragon Tank then warp to 2300 AD and keep her for the rest of the game. - Get Lucca in Guardia Castle 600 AD, beat Yakra, lose her after returning to 1000 AD right before the trial and regain her either by waiting in the cell three days for her to rescue you from the guillotine or she joins you right before you fight the Dragon Tank, and keep her for the rest of the game. I usually prefer the wait-for-rescue method because then I have an extra character for the prison break sequence earlier and it's less effort to get to Fritz to free _him_ from his guillotine. Could optionally think about Frog-only if you want to go through the effort of getting him magic after recruiting him post-Masamune, but I always found intentionally Frog-centric parties on first playthroughs exhausting to work with and the fact that proper plot-based recruitment of Frog is so spaced out during a run might unbalance it a bit. Frog-centric parties are super fun on NG+s, though, especially with triple tech rock accessories. Robo-only might work, too, since Proto Dome is still early enough in the game that doing all the pre-Robo stuff can still be technically considered "easy."

[@Praetarius]

I think status effects are on a priority system, only what the game considers the "strongest" one remains. Well, except for HP leak, that only has a duration and doesn't interact with the other ailments. Also, if you ever do another CT challenge: when you fight masa and mune attack the second guy, only the first one counters, and the battle ends when either target dies. The counter accessoires can counter everything, not only attacks. Like they can trigger counterattacks on phase changes. There's a fun glitch associated with the sword that deals 4x crit damage; if you perform this crit on a counter, the "crit" flag is not cleared until you either perform a normal attack or the end of your next action. So if you get this crit-counter and then use the confuse tech, it'll deal 2x damage because the game thinks you've landed a crit with it.

[@apollolux]

I always thought the status "priority" was "whatever was most recent," but it's been a while since I actually looked at all the fan-documented stuff on sites like Chrono Compendium and my own research when I was looking into the SNES ROM myself.

[@daniel_cofresi]

Can't think of anything meaningful to comment in today's video but I will anyway just to please the algorithm gods and hopefully help your excellent content reach more people

[@LeoSmashRoyale]

Judge Santa Claus has no power here! I'm currently subscribed!

[@Wayofthegamer7]

When I was young I replayed new game+ until I had all possible stats maxed to double stars with tabs on my SNES cart. I was able to solo Lavos with Crono, so yes it is possible in New game+ for sure.

[@Thing_of_somes]

I like how marle or 18 or whoever literally vouches for you but they was like “who asked?” And decides to punish you anyway

[@bradthebold8]

Getting luminaire farming on mount woe would have made a big difference. I've never fought giga gaia without it, haha

[@frankpavey6568]

Slash counts as magic damage, which is useful pre-end of time and for enemies in a line

[@tantacles]

Yes

[@supernova743]

If you don't escape lucca comes ot save you and asks if you were really going to let yourself be executed.

[@000Codex]

I will one day get bored of a Chrono Trigger video. But not Today!

[@Kami7YT]

26:50 That made me laugh so hard I could barely breathe 🤣 I even rewinded that scene a couple of times 😆

[@rfmerrill]

Azala is *very* explicitly female, but a lot of people miss this somehow.

[@flameingdaethfearies]

Favorite game of all time agreed

[@tantacles]

You have good taste in games and bad taste in videos. ;-)

[@xxProjectJxx]

24:05 - when I clicked on this, I was wondering if it would even be possible to defeat Ocean Palace Lavos with only Crono if you grinded like mad lol. I suppose we have to assume that it's impossible to beat the game with only Crono

[@kevinbarta2394]

I thought you were Manu Ginobili. That's worth a sub.

[@Fatalordi]

Did you kept the standard battle settings for the whole run ?

[@tantacles]

Yes, didn’t change anything

[@DOC_951]

I’m a doctor gamer as well, was curious what kind of doctor you are? Couldn’t figure it out based on a quick search through your other KZbin channel

[@tantacles]

I’m a hospitalist!

[@DOC_951]

Ah gotcha! I’m emergency 🫱🏼‍🫲🏻

[@tantacles]

Stop sending me patients! 😉

[@DOC_951]

@@tantacles Please admit this hyponatremic patient of 109 with dementia and an active GI bleed full code🤣

[@tantacles]

Grandma is a fighter, I guess. 😔

[@kulrigalestout]

I could swear that Lavos is weaker if you fight him after defeating Queen Zeal. Or is that just a different ending thing? Either way, gz on hard mode! Or... normal mode...? I love Chrono Trigger to bits, but there's just so much I forget.

[@mindlessmeat4055]

I saw the eclipse back in 2017 and it was amazing.

[@abyssiondeportergil5404]

I knew it was 'posible' because i made solo Lavos before, but It was still fun to watch ^^>.

[@jruler93]

I think Marle should've been Chi Chi (since she marries Crono/Goku in later versions of the game) and Ayla should've been 18 (since she's blonde and strong). But other than that little nitpick about which character should've had what Dragon Ball name, this video was very fun to watch.

[@Themacattack1209]

Could have named Crono “Trunks” because time travel and he uses a sword lol

[@apollolux]

@@Themacattack1209 While your argument is extremely reasonable and logical, it's obvious just from visuals and main character status alone that Crono is Goku. Add to that the fact that he dies and resurrects and it's a fairly indisputable parallel.

[@bobosmith101]

The magic is weird in this game. Doors to Destruction and the ultimate Physical and Magical spell Lavos casts seems to just either kill you or be really easy to manage. I'm not sure what the deal with that is.

[@nogrim8641]

is there a "hard mode" mod that you trust for both Trigger and Cross?

[@Dakasami]

Purely out of my own curiosity, I have noticed that when you play CHRONO trigger that you don’t “farm” the Nu in 65,000,000BC at the Hunting Grounds while it’s raining. I was wondering if you feel that that’s breaking the game or you just didn’t know about it? Because all of their abilities aren’t level-based, they are tech point based, and he is a great way to farm tech points Very early in the game.

[@tantacles]

It’s not breaking the game, but generally in these types of runs I try to beat final bosses with the minimal amount of stuff necessary.

[@ccmoose1]

Re: Red Vest/Mail. If you bring Marle with you, you'll get in after a cutscene. Edit: later in video, you figured it out :)

[@jonmcknight18]

Yeah it it wasn't for that second rule this would be impossible

[@DanPantzig]

Crono All Alone-o is back!

[@venomadder]

Could you try a challenege for the game. The Last Remnant? I have a good feeling youd love it if you havent tried it yet

[@sampassey6964]

I like that you did this challenge. I would have rather heard your technicalities with the challenges you had instead of hearing a story recap. I feel this hurts your presentation. I also did this challenge and made it all the way past the DS additional dungeons. I was two bosses or challenges away from finishing. I got stuck with dark Lucca and her egg machine. To my memory I kept trying to kill the egg machine, but it just kept stealing life from dark Lucca. I think even when dark Lucca was dead. May some brave soul go finish what I couldn’t complete. Maybe I will try again. I think I had red plate also during the egg machine boss. I think we just couldn’t kill each other.

[@Spikkle]

Wahoo another video! Today is a good day

[@deboraron2794]

Yasss can’t wait to watch this

[@wilso572]

Thanks!

[@tantacles]

Thank you for the super!

[@Sr.DudeGuy]

Please good sir! Play Breath of Fire 3!

[@brotherdaniel1524]

I was certain Aila would be Lnch for Launch

[@mysticmallachi777]

You know, it's not like I "disliked" it, but I find myself liking Tanty's face the more I've seen him. :]

[@BasilBeat]

Thanks Sug!

[@PaleVoyager]

VIDEL?! I was with you until you didn't name Ayla Launch.

[@Galaxyhoppah]

I spy myself during the discord shout out

[@FFgamesftw]

You technically can defeat Lavos at the ocean palace if you are very skilled meaning Chrono doesn't have to die and the game can end right there.

[@tantacles]

By skilled do you mean over leveled? 😉

[@FFgamesftw]

@@tantacles Not entirely, if you watch HCBailley's playthrough he demonstrates how it can be done on a first playthrough as a bonus episode. However with just Chrono good luck lol

[@FFgamesftw]

@@veghesther3204 The entire point of my comment was to joke that you can indeed play Chrono trigger entirely with "only Chrono" as the part of the game where Chrono is removed can be entirely skipped.

[@eviltrollface647]

I thought this was a False Swipe Gaming video at first.

[@tantacles]

Funny story: same thumbnail artist!

[@vladv5126]

So... essentially Gok.. I mean, Crono solos.

[@Cromulorf]

26:05 as a Minnesotan I feel personally attacked

[@tantacles]

Think of how the Michigan people must feel…

[@Kaslo25]

You missed the chance to name Marle 8teen :P

[@Amerac133]

Wouldn’t Merle be chichi cause of romance technically

[@kaemonbonet4931]

Theres something funny about putting ff6 music in chrono trigger

[@Pokamon2000]

But Frog does not look like piccolo, that wil be Magus. Frog is Ginyu 😅

[@devendarpalsingh3653]

I was at levle 7 before boss 1 because I didn’t know how to move the spikes so ye i

[@bearlotk7608]

Azala is the queen of the reptites.

[@tantacles]

No, THIS IS PATRICK

[@jdarokhajiit9153]

Yes, its possible with enough levels

[@Mevenda1]

Here for some Crono's Drag Race

[@tantacles]

Start your engine

[@fadeleaf845]

Can you beat Spectrobes without Spectrobes?

[@pichugirl6]

The one RPG where your not required to be on a boat.

[@renewagain6956]

Dragon Quest I Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest Undertale Earthbound

[@jaxsonbateman]

If the legal system decrees it, then I guess I have to sub. :P

[@GodleyX]

You know, slash is magic damage. I didn't see you taking advantage of that. Especially when you got to hekron and stated crono only had lightning for magic damage. Slash is magic, too interestingly

[@eudelalfonso637]

I remeber ther first time i play this game , i have to translate some parts with my father because at the Moment i dont Unterstand english , i hate spekkio so much because i dont know what i have to do jaja

[@Plop_Loggin]

Fine, I'll subscribe... Sheesh

[@tantacles]

Just don't buy a boat

[@Plop_Loggin]

@@tantacles my curiosity is piqued. I have watched a bunch of these and still don't get the boat jokes

[@tantacles]

It’s just good advice that happens to be slightly amusing.

[@el_oh_ell]

Ayla is Launch not Videl

[@rebirth2526]

spirit bomb to the victory!!

[@truthseekers1620]

this game can be triggering lol

[@knightky975]

Look at our boy Goku go~

[@LandonIngram-c1z]

Make more of these vids make more chrono trigger videos

[@tantacles]

Lucca only already started

[@iamthehobo]

Now do solo Magoo