Can you Beat Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance as a Minimalist

[@jaffinator2166]

Hi everyone hope you enjoyed the video and remember to be respectful and constructive with criticism in the comments. Also a few things 1. Shiva Recording- kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5SbqWmtmcdsrsksi=cXAUZ1kkyX5LXE8i 2. Demi Fiend, Satan, and Masakado- While I could have done DF and Satan here, I didn't want to make the video too long and DF in particular would have required an insane amount of grinding for Null Phys, Abyssal Mask, and Enduring Soul on all my demons. And Masakado is literally impossible. Not because I can't beat him, but because his quest requires Yoshitsune to start, a demon we cannot get from doing a quest. So he is impossible on the grounds I cannot start his quest.

[@dragonman7856]

"Guys really play the game like this and don't see any issue"

[@jaffinator2166]

Yeah because it’s fun 🙃

[@ScrapsandSlaps]

Minimalism go burr

[@LCrum20th]

​@@ScrapsandSlapsmore like Parselene Bluuuuur😂

[@maverick5169]

There are two kinds of people 1: the cultured ones that played Devil Survivor and react accordingly to Kudlak and Kresnik's battle 2: everyone else Also shoutout to Naamah for powercreeping Amanozako's essence which had the best non super-boss affinities in vanilla, cover Fire and Ice and you were good to go. And Naamah isn't even DLC, she is just built different because lol

[@jaffinator2166]

@@maverick5169 I really need to play DeSu. Also rip Cleo’s affinities 😭

[@perpetuallyconfused09]

Common Naamah W

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

A challenge idea I've been sitting on for a while: Leyline of Resonance Cascade. Premise: In this timeline, Kei Amemura is so afraid of the idea that activating and using Leyline Founts will cause a disastrous Resonance Cascade if done excessively--no facts and logic from even Aogami or Director Koshimizu seem to get through.. -Tokyo (and possibly the entire world) is already in ruins and overrun by demons; -Leyline Crossing is very convenient for fast travel -Cadaver's Hollow, the World of Shadows, and the few remaining safe areas (Demon Haunts) can only be accessed from founts; -Throwing Macca into founts results in full recovery of the body and the spirit. 26,161 Asking Kei where that misconception came from yields no useful answer, either. Kei is also creeped the #### out by Magatsu Rails, and refuses to even say _a word_ about them. Main Rules: - Only the Leyline Founts or Terminals at the following locations may be registered: -- *Da'at: Minato* - Tamachi, Mita, Shiba, Odaiba (CoC), Bethel Egypt Approach (CoV) -- *Da'at: Shinagawa* - Tennozu Isle -- *Da'at: Shinjuku* - Shinjuku Gyoen -- *Da'at: Taito* - Ueno -- *Tokyo Diet Building* (Chiyoda can be accessed directly from Minato in CoC) -- *Tokyo* -- *Demon King's Castle* - 1st Stratum Hall (CoC) -- *Shakan* - 1st Stratum Foyer (CoV) -- *Empyrean* - Serpent' Grave: Altar (temporary point in CoV, disappears after alignment boss) - Saving may only be done in close proximity to the aforementioned Founts (or directly at them if attempted in the original game), but may be done unlimited times. - Cadaver's Hollow may only be accessed twice in the entire game (both forced visits early on). - World of Shadows and Demon Haunt may only be accessed once each in the entire playthrough (also forced). - Leyline Recovery may not be used; only Chakra/Soma items, orbs on the ground, and passive skills (when applicable) may be used to recover MP. - Magatsu Rails may not be used outside of two(?) specific, necessary ones in Shinjuku (CoV). - Return Pillar may not be used. - To compensate for the Nahobino being stuck with weak skills, there are no special restrictions on demon recruiting. - No hard restrictions on level. - DLC demons are allowed as soon as possible. - Mitama DLC is allowed once the Temple of Eternity has been cleared (CoC)/Empyrean has been reached (CoV). - Miman must be left alone, beyond the first one. - Gospels, Grimoires, Balms, Incenses, and Petrified Demon Statues be used (but do use them wisely). New Testament Tablets and Sutras may not. - All subquests that do not require Leyline Founts or Magatsu Rails are allowed. - Virtual Trainer battles are allowed. - If any rules are broken by mistake, reload the last save. NG+: - After being either Canon once, the other may be done in Newborn NG+. -- Divine Persuasion and/or Eminence may be learned during the forced World of Shadows visit. - After beating both Canons, CoC and CoV may be redone in Reborn, in order. -- Collected Essences may be used on the Nahobino only during the forced World of Shadows visit. -- Prior ban on New Testament Tablets and Sutras lifted. -- The World of Shadows may now be accessed once after each set of Fiend bosses, and the Hall of Chaos may be accessed...but beating Demi-fiend may be another story... -- Magatsu Rails that lead to new areas may now be used. -- Fusion and Compendium usage are permissible at any of the "True Demon Checkpoints", but only for unrecruitable demons. Skill inheritance and non-Nahobino Essence Fusion are still banned. -- Banned Miracles: --- Inheritance Violation --- Skill Manifestation --- Healer's Hospitality set -- If acquired, Demi-fiend's Essence may not be used for affinities. Godborn (if reachable): - Moral Transcendence and Recalled Divinity may be learned. - 99 of each Balm and Incense may be bought during either of the forced visits to Cadaver's Hollow, if the Macca is available. - LV 150 demons may be recruited. (Why did I willingly spend hours writing this?)

[@voflondor]

9:18 I loved the part when Pixie went "it's killing time" and then killed all over the place!

[@jaffinator2166]

@@voflondor foreshadowing of what was to come 👀

[@Nusa9376]

"Okay, i believe you" I miss pancake

[@jaffinator2166]

Me too 😭

[@soullordbr6183]

I love SMT challenge runs, but there are so few of them. Thank you so much for this.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@soullordbr6183 TYSM for enjoying 🫡

[@DiegoG2004]

Playing SMT5 like it was DDS. No fusion mechanic to be seen, just skills to inherit.

[@apocalfailed8090]

Fun fact, Mastema is coded in a specific way that he almost only uses his unique moves if Crime and Punishment gave him extra Press Turns. If you do not attack into his weakness or crit him, you will only see Seething Mansemat, Untainted Winds, or OH LORD IN HEAVEN, HEAR MY PRAYERS... AND ANSWER when he gathers Magatsuhi. So if you do not think you can take him spamming his uniques till the cows come home, you can play it slow.

[@RaytheShame]

Really great vid! Can’t wait to see why else you cook up in terms of challenges

[@jaffinator2166]

Thank you! Next is a Metaphor guide of some kind and then IDK what afterwards

[@ClvrBstrd]

1:03:48 Chadstema: But I will not accept defeat! (Proceeds to show feet)

[@jaffinator2166]

@@ClvrBstrd as he does

[@DebeshMishra03]

Good run! Also High Heal Pleroma doesn't affect Eleusian Harvest as it doesn't affect Mediarahan either. Eleusian Harvest is Mediarahan + Bowl of Hygeia combined. And I do prefer Tehom's battle theme over Mastema's because of how it uses Yoko's theme as a leitmotif.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@DebeshMishra03 in that regard, yes. But M’s Revelation is such a bop I cannot stop listening to . And thank you for confirming what I thought about Harvest Time. Makes me wonder what the point in including High Heal on her even was

[@kaiserkreuz2110]

I had that Nuwa pattern argument this exact morning and honestly it feels good to see I'm not insane thinking she only spams Zanma after turn 1. As for our beloved trustworthy Chadstema, his last phase isn't just Almighty, but he cycles through his other three phases while adding Almighty (thank his Lord in Heavens for that because doing a No Damage of him would've been impossible with that.) Very nice vid!

[@jaffinator2166]

And like I said you don’t even NEED taunt she’ll just… do this on Nahobino specifically anyway. And what’s interesting is that I know that’s how Chadstema should behave but he’s always just cycled through them in order anyway. He’s nice like that

[@maverick5169]

Nuwa indeed likes to spam Zanma against Nahobino, even in Vanilla but unlike Abdiel who has story reasons to strike us specifically, it's not clear why.

[@kaiserkreuz2110]

​@@jaffinator2166 To also respond to @maverick5169 , what I learned about having Taunt on everyone at the same time (see the Tehom OTK video) is that the enemies always target the first demon in line, whether it's the Nahobino or not. I do think Nuwa and Abdiel bypass this rule, which is surprising for the former (tauntless, of course.) I always like me a well-behaved trustworthy angel. Mastema was fun to No Damage knowing his patterns. He also appeared in the discussion with the other internet person to say he never uses AOE because of elements being NRD'd, which is false since he does it after 2 actions each turn anyway, which is why you don't wanna crit him during an Almighty turn, or he'll pray for you to get nuked to oblivion.

[@kaiserkreuz2110]

Also apparently my reply got shadowbanned wtf lol

[@loadingname5499]

Yeah im psure she just spam zanma almost exclusively after turn 1

[@LavvyWuff]

Great video :D I'm always intrigued by challenge runs, I tend to just play whatever the easiest difficulty is just to save time, but it's fun seeing how people build their party when restricted to certain recruits~ I loved seeing your pro/con lists, the likes and dislikes had me cracking up a couple times XD

[@Jekunda]

I forgot who the CC was that made that "ok, I believe you" venture gag but I literally love you for. I'm only in the first 4 mins of the vid but I already know it's gg.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@Jekunda thank you! And it’s the “Kingdom Hearts in a Nutshell” series by Just a Pancake

[@Jekunda]

@@jaffinator2166 YASSSSSSN I LOVE HIM!! WOW OKAY SIS/BRO YOU EARNED A SUB!

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

​@@jaffinator2166talk about nostalgia, a light in the darkness waiting for kh3

[@banyamano010]

1:02:26 pretty sure Shiva uses Tandava after every 5 party turns or something regardless of his rage state

[@jaffinator2166]

@@banyamano010 nope. I talked with some dataminers and it turns out Shiva will use Tandava if he’s denied his second action multiple times in a row

[@banyamano010]

@@jaffinator2166 oh interesting The more you learn

[@odinkiller727]

41:14 “Likes: beach episodes” oh lol, yeah I remember SMT IV:A. I would always do the option to skip the beach episode part cause I found his reaction funny.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@odinkiller727 glad someone caught that reference!

[@brenden7245]

Onyankopon getting some love finally.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@brenden7245 I grossly underestimated him in every other playthrough 😭

[@matthaisstupidus]

Its kinda hilarious how useless Lunar Hurricane is compared to other high level nahobino skills considering Aogami is Susano-o, who is normally one of if not the best force attackers in every non-persona games he appears in, but in this game he's instead weak to force and never gets ANY unique force skills, and his brother gets one... but its godawful Truly an SMT5 unique skill moment almost on par with Panagia Tao basically just being a worse Idunn in base 5, and then in Vengeance Idunn was nerfed entirely so both would be worse Konohana Sakuya Thanks Atlus, very (not) cool

[@jaffinator2166]

It’s funny because when I heard about the Idun nerf, I thought it was in the interest of making Light of Order more viable… BUT THEN THEY NERFED THAT TOO 😂

[@matthaisstupidus]

@jaffinator2166 WAIT THEY NERFED LIGHT OF ORDER????

[@jaffinator2166]

Yup Vengeance: 50 pwr, base + 8% max HP restore, Dekunda + Luster Candy Vanilla: 60 pwr, base + 17% max HP restore, Dekunda + Luster Candy

[@matthaisstupidus]

@jaffinator2166 WHY DOES ATLUS HATE MY SCRUNKLY BUNKLY SO MUCH WTF COULD SHE HAVE DONE WRONG Some day I'm gonna learn modding entirely so she and Idunn can be equals with each other and at least have reason to be used over Sakuya, can't believe John atlus is so lame...

[@jaffinator2166]

😭

[@alextriangles]

It turns out that Jaff is not, in fact, immune to some demon ass 🧙🏻‍♀️

[@jaffinator2166]

@@alextriangles

[@thecursed_1lordofcats738]

Alternative title: SMT5V No Mercy challenge. If you ain't a quest giver, ya dead.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 Gustave gets a pass

[@thecursed_1lordofcats738]

@@jaffinator2166 he is a quest giver though. He gives the Miman quest, therefore he was safe to begin with.

[@KamuiTsukuyomi]

Not going to lie, my favorite cutscene is tiamats reveal due to the absolute destruction that happens and it's one of 3 cutscenes I never skip. Also it's just really good

[@jaffinator2166]

It’s a really cool scene!

[@KamuiTsukuyomi]

It's the showing that Vengeance doesn't fuck around with It's story

[@KyRex1783]

'Grandpa Max then inducts us into the plumbers' And just like that I'm unable to see SMT3 or 5 the same way ever again. god. damnit XD

[@jaffinator2166]

So hard not to make the comparison 😂

[@KyRex1783]

@@jaffinator2166 see the thing is I knew what Paul Eiding has done voice actor wise, but now I LITERALLY cannot see SMT3 or 5 as anything other than Ben 10 scenarios gone horribly wrong ^^;

[@DoubleJ466]

Ok I just gotta say one thing this video is great I finally got to watch it after beating taito so 4 hours of vids is great

[@jaffinator2166]

Thank you! Glad you loved it 💜💜

[@Moondust_Maedae]

30:08 honestly my favorite type of difficulty in boss fights where as demi is difficult simply just for the sake of being difficult

[@jaffinator2166]

^this but for True Masakado

[@maverick5169]

Double comment but I found something interesting, apparently Alice can surpass even Lunar Hurricane in terms of sheer power Die for Me has 135 in power and can hit for a maximum of 5 (the website says 6) times. With Omagatoki Dance it hits for a grand total of 675 attack power (810 if the hits are 6), beating Lunar Hurricane's maximum of 630, meaning she theorically has the strongest attack in the game. I understand why Belial is scared of Alice and serves her every whim

[@jaffinator2166]

@@maverick5169 hm interesting. But either way it goes to show how ridiculously busted multi-hits are

[@apocalfailed8090]

I would like to mention Fire of Sinai... 110 power, hits between 3 to 7 times. With Omagatoki Dance, that are up to 9 times for a causal 990 power. That being said, you get Alice far earlier than Metatron, so...

[@maverick5169]

@@apocalfailed8090 Ah yes, the classic "f*ck u moment" from Metatron

[@JoseGarcia-fe8bq]

Peak video as usual

[@jaffinator2166]

@@JoseGarcia-fe8bq thanks man

[@ryokophreak]

Great video

[@jaffinator2166]

@@ryokophreak Thank you Ryoko 💜

[@ryokophreak]

@jaffinator2166 No probs. Was a fun watch. :) Thanks for making it.

[@Carrity]

This looks really fun to do. I might try this challenge eventually. Perhaps ill do with just the fiend

[@jaffinator2166]

1. Definitely do so. And do it on Canon of Creation since I didn’t do it here. 2. Oof Fiend only in V might not be as viable as in Nocturne as most of them fall off really quickly

[@Carrity]

@@jaffinator2166 oh okay

[@Carrity]

Also, are you considering doing the whole run with just the quadistsu? (idk if I spelled it right).

[@jaffinator2166]

@@Carritycould be interesting on Godborn. But i probably won’t cover it

[@enzoforgets9456]

Jaffinator giving me my megaten challenge run dosage as usual, and its always done well

[@jaffinator2166]

@@enzoforgets9456 TYSM! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@WickdImplse]

Great video 😎💪🏾Now I want to go play SMT again. You’ve made a subscriber out of me! P.s Johne is awesome fr.

[@jaffinator2166]

Glad to hear it! SMT is an amazing series and Johne is the goat

[@VashimuXIV]

I’m a bit late to the proverbial party with this one Jaff, but I like the idea of this run being something akin to a no fusion run and being more like Digital Devil Saga. I wonder if you took any inspiration from Metaphor in that respect. But now I understand why you showed us several sneak peaks with your community tab, and I think this was a good watch. It must be hard to think of compelling ideas for challenge runs, but I’m glad to be a viewer. As well as a fellow follower of best girl, Agrat. Not that I’d rob you of that title, but it’s nice to have a fellow brother in arms. Cheers, Jaff. P.S. I still stand by my statement of being against Amanozako slander, but I don’t hold you in contempt for it.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@VashimuXIV TYSM Vash for your continued support! I will admit, the idea for the run strictly came from the desire to see if I can win using only demons the game gives me for free, as well as not fusing them to take advantage of other demon’s essences. Though I can see where DDS/Metaphor comparisons came in

[@VashimuXIV]

@@jaffinator2166 Onyankapon approves of his newfound glory, that’s for certain. And I do believe your explanation, ‘Twas just a coincidence that you were basically turning Vengeance into DDS/Metaphor. Speaking of which, I heavily look forward to content you make on said game.

[@PikangsFutaba]

I wonder how things would have go if you had go vs Tehom instead of "Chad"stema in the endgame, still, really great video, showing how with creative strategies you can win those fights, heh, funny you kept Pixie from start to finish when usually she's ditched very quickly. Edit: I should continue my journey in this cool game that I haven't played it since like it's week 2 due to lack of time for the most part.

[@jaffinator2166]

Only advantage to going Law over Chaos, as I mention, is access to Michael/Shield of God. Beyond that, Chaos just gives you so much more better stuff

[@binhanisme-85]

Is that a solo challenge reference??? 🤯🤯🤯

[@jaffinator2166]

@@binhanisme-85 not quite

[@kaiserkreuz2110]

Oh yeah, Jaff! Any thoughts of doing a No Support Skill (including Omagatoki) run?

[@jaffinator2166]

@@kaiserkreuz2110 think just a no Omogatoki skill run could be a lot of fun. Support also locks you out of buffs/debuffs and I’ve seen Ragnar’s video on that 😭

[@kaiserkreuz2110]

@@jaffinator2166 No? You have wifey Cleo with Frolic and you're good 💦 I actually thought of many alternatives to support skills that could make it easy enough without having to resort to power-leveling. Healing skills would also not be banned, and if we allow using Sakuya, you can just abuse her and Oyamatsumi's magatsuhi skills for MP heals, or even Qadistu Entropy. As long as the skill itself isn't classified as Support, it should be viable.

[@marecaelomiscere]

My beloved Haru mentioned

[@jaffinator2166]

@@marecaelomiscere she deserves so much more 😭

[@marecaelomiscere]

@@jaffinator2166 Agrat 🤝 Haru: - short haired queens - impeccable drip - urge to kill

[@Raidon484]

Thank you! Finally someone who recognizes that Eisheth is fucking easy! Abusing phys dampeners just neuter her!

[@jaffinator2166]

@@Raidon484 IKR!!!

[@renamamiya2279]

32:45 You forgot to say that in order to receive all Qadistu's essences, you need to defeat ALL party members. Lilith is guaranteed to drop but the others, you need to defeat them AT LEAST once. Personnaly, that's what I did and the rest of the fight before beating the crap out of Lilith, I've only focused on Naamah simply because her debuffs skills is annoying to deal with and also because I HATE sexy demons in SMT games. Yes Cléopâtra, I'm also talking to you! 😈💢

[@SaShA6572]

One day video appear "Can you beat Shing Megami Tensei V Vengeance .... normally" and it will shake the world😅

[@jaffinator2166]

@@SaShA6572 challenge runs aren’t for everyone, which is understandable

[@DemiFairy]

1:01:30 Demi-Fiend would be proud

[@jaffinator2166]

She’s just too perfect ❤

[@Legendaryyy77]

yup new challenge run vid

[@jaffinator2166]

@@Legendaryyy77 you love to see it 💜

[@sweettpi]

First for once ψ(｀∇´)ψ and a minimalist run seems like a pretty fun challenge to try!

[@jaffinator2166]

It’s actually a ton of fun!

[@Gunzerkingidiot]

I wouldn't giggled if you put one of Lilim's dislikes: YandereDev

[@jaffinator2166]

Dang that never crossed my mind until now 😂😂😂

[@beans6759]

I'm confused how Frolic got censored but Capitulate to Pleasure don't

[@jaffinator2166]

@@beans6759 Because…

[@J.aime_le_pain181]

the censorship agent was not immune to demon ass

[@Akaishu294]

It does feel like a crime tho

[@jaffinator2166]

@@Akaishu294

[@Xhenon.]

23:14 couldn't you just do both? Does the essence not reset after some time?

[@jaffinator2166]

@@Xhenon. not at that immediate moment

[@myyoutubeaccount4167]

Havent played SMTV but so idk how viable the Qaditsu are as party members or how annoying they are as bosses but going off visual designs alone, Eisheth and Agrat are easily better than the other two for me.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@myyoutubeaccount4167 I have guides that extensively go over the Qadistu if you’re curious!

[@darklordliam]

43:44 RIP 3rd most popular demon 😔

[@jaffinator2166]

@@darklordliam o7

[@damianlopez1120]

8:32 YOU!!!!!!! 😤😡🤬

[@jaffinator2166]

[@christianhigares7086]

17:20 a KFC joke while ur talking about two African deities is kind of insane dude i can’t tell if the racism is intentional or accidental

[@jaffinator2166]

@@christianhigares7086 completely accidental as I just wanted to make the KFC/Taco Bell joke. Though I am sorry if there’s racial context I didn’t get 😭😭😭

[@christianhigares7086]

@@jaffinator2166 lmao i figured, and ur good dude here’s a brief description of what i’m talking about from wikipedia: “The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods. The popularity of fried chicken in the Southern United States and its portrayal in films like The Birth of a Nation contributed to the development of this stereotype. Restaurants such as Sambo's and Coon Chicken Inn further commercialized the stereotype through their mascots. Though fried chicken is now also celebrated as soul food, its association with African American culture is sometimes considered a sensitive issue. Public figures like Tiger Woods have been targeted with fried chicken-related remarks, and organizations have been criticized for serving it during Black History Month or making racially insensitive references.”

[@raikaria3090]

Huh; is the time to beat Shiva later in CoV than CoC? You can go all the way to the boss after Tiamat to unlock True Luicifer rather than starting the Empyrean?

[@jaffinator2166]

@@raikaria3090 yup he’s not gatekept anymore… well I mean he is just it’s not a hard lock

[@raikaria3090]

@@jaffinator2166 I know he's accessible on every route in Vengance, it's just I thought the time when which version of Lucy you fight was decided was at the same timing as the True Neutral ending. I guess it's decided upon entering the throne room now?

[@thephantomthievesofhearts4388]

8:32 Ooh, I’m curious who the hottest women are.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@thephantomthievesofhearts4388

[@RosyMiranto]

We know that Agrat is your Queen, however... what is your least favorite Demon in SMT V?... it's probably the overly creepy ones like Picasa for me :/

[@SuperDawsome]

Mine has gotta be those mad gassers in shinjuku. Those hitboxes are massive.

[@jaffinator2166]

Least favorite. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Probably any demon who is just “ok” gameplay wise. Not bad, but nothing that sets them apart from the others either. Soooooo hmmmmm… let’s go with Naga

[@RosyMiranto]

@@jaffinator2166 okay, alrighty then

[@Cieloacestriker]

No demon deletion next

[@jaffinator2166]

When you think about it, that's kind of what this is

[@Cieloacestriker]

@jaffinator2166 yeah

[@aldonikollaj495]

Peak

[@jaffinator2166]

@@aldonikollaj495 it’s so peak

[@rift3487]

8:34 false

[@jaffinator2166]

Agree to disagree on that

[@raikaria3090]

Wouldn't a minimalist run AVOID the Miman? I dunno Minimalist dosen't seem like this is the right word.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@raikaria3090 big thing is no fusion/negotiation. Any other thing I can do to get an edge is fine in my book.

[@raikaria3090]

@@jaffinator2166 Maybe I'd have called it only gift allies rather than minimalist? Minimalist means doing the minimum possible. It would be a low% run. You'd be avoiding sidequests; abcessess and miman. Which in itself sounds like an interesting run tbh.

[@alpha_c.]

lets go…

[@jaffinator2166]

Thank you!!

[@shadowsnake94]

Wow, didn't even beat Satan or Demifiend. Total scrub. Unsubscribed and left a bag of dog poo by your front door. (JK - very cool run!)

[@BearWith_You]

I don't play on Hard or anything but I didn't have any trouble with Eiseth. To be honest I never lost to any of the Qadistu ever

[@jaffinator2166]

@@BearWith_You normally same. But I’ve always heard people say Eisheth was really hard. To which I was like ???

[@BearWith_You]

@@jaffinator2166 I find her to be rather middle. Wouldn't say she was the easiest or the hardest. Her Unique is good so maybe thats the cause

[@General_C]

I think the late game is weak to ice.

[@jaffinator2166]

@@General_C who would have guessed 🤷‍♂️

[@dantebloomber395]

Can you do a harem challenge in shin megami tensei v vengeance?

[@jaffinator2166]

@@dantebloomber395 What if I did that in Metaphor?

[@LaManchaland]

my guy the video is cool and all but please take the sprite off, its so unbelievably big and takes up a ton of the screen, no hate for the sprite but like damn i would have much prefered to have it be voice only than this

[@Vivizor]

Would you consider this to be harder than Godborn at 99? It seems easier since you don't have to worry about demons with a 151-level scale against you.

[@jaffinator2166]

In some ways easier but, in the case of the Squadistu fight, harder.

[@Vivizor]

@@jaffinator2166 I can see that, since killing Naamah isn't an option without high damage physical skills and there's fewer options to get around Mother Earth.