Can You Build A Great Five Watch Collection For Under $1000? The 5/1000 Watch Challenge

[@duncanidaho2130]

Before watching... I'd like to say that this is a great topic. I have my 3 watch collection all set. 1. Your favorite diver. 2. Seiko 5 on a leather strap 3. Timex Weekender with lots of NATO. However, a five watch collection adds to the all around dynamic.

[@greatdogg]

Can't wait for Meranom to start stocking the Reef GMT again. Great looking and an amazing value.

[@12stringblues]

Great list! I think a $100 Gshock and $115 Bambino is a no brainer these are excellent! the Kamasu ($175) is a winner. I would also go for a Seiko SNA411Pilot's Flight Alarm Chronograph at $250 It also shares the 21mm strap size so you can share with the Bambino. or get a Seiko SRPA27 $150 instead of the bambino great price right now.

[@RelativeTime]

Great suggestions. I've been meaning to check out the Seiko Flight Chrono for a while, I really should get one.

[@gynechiatrist]

Once again the Red Kamasu hangs in there. Never seen those Vostocks , but I will. I have a Laco and wear it more and more. So, again I appreciate your vids and the quiet direct demeanor. I’m guessing an engineer back ground. Thanks!

[@karlsenula9495]

Love the idea and the variety.

[@Isaac-px4wy]

Bought me a bambino small seconds, classic put after market red strap, was able to use the orient buckle to make it look the part.

[@josemedina1983]

This is my list: 1. Diver: From Ebay New Seiko Samurai 250.00 ( you can find them probably cheaper second hand on eBay if you really look and have patience) 2. Seiko Flight Master (Flighty) Quartz Jomashop 220.00 3. Seiko 5 Sport SNZ Field watch 120.00 4. Casio G Shock : Amazon DW5600e 41.00 5. Orient Bambino: Amazon 113.00 Total: 744.00 Also you don't need to spend a grand. A nice diver and nice field watch with a nice not so busy dial can be dressed up with a nice leather band or tone it down with a leather or cloth Nato strap.

[@AlexanderB.]

It's a nice collection of watches. For me the weak spot is the Bambino with it's highly domed thus very exposed mineral crystal. Why not change it for one of the various Aliexpress dress watches with better specs from Cadisen, Reef Tiger or Carnival? Whith the Kamasu there is another Orient watch in the collection anyway.

[@derekwalter4238]

The bambino is just a classic entry level dress watch. Being so affordable and coming in so many different styles plus coming from orient which is one of the cheapest options for an in house movement, it's the perfect watch to recommend a new collector. And like he said in the video, it's a dress watch, not a beater lol. Some people like the look of the domed crystal, I personally think it looks really cool.

[@jimmylaw2136]

Great one. My next target in my collection is also a flieger. Probably will go for the orient version...

[@HRM.H]

I'm building my own little collection right now. I currently own the Seiko SPB101 and SNXS73 also a steinhart ocean 39 Ceramic. Still on the look out for good a gmt or flieger.

[@lucafwn]

Great collection, great choices. Looking forward to the review of the Escapement Time flieger. About the Bambino as a scratch magnet: that watch is made to be worn under a cuff, so if you use it as it is designed to be used, you shouldn't have problems. I have three (v2, v3, small seconds), but I go hiking with a Casio, and for playing with my daughter I have some Chinese specials with sapphire crystal!

[@chrispierce8349]

Awesome and diverse collection! Thank you for your excellent efforts and review. My favorite is the red Kamasu👍

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. This was a fun one to make. I should probably do another one soon.

[@stephenbridges2791]

Great effort, Shane. I guess I have totally given up on trying to keep a lid on my collection. I guess the things I am drawn to are watches that lean towards the pilot aesthetic and divers. I was extremely fortunate to have gotten my Citizen Nighthawk while the price was still somewhat civilized. I can't believe what they have been going for the past year on Amazon. Wild variations that end up around $300 ($297.99 @ 3/14/21). Not sure I would pay that if I didn't already have one. But, I think you are absolutely correct going heavy with the Orient brand. They are stepping into the area that was once owned by Seiko. With Seiko seemingly willing to abdicate that area of the market. This is really not a bad time to be "into" watches. There are some really good deals out there, if you just look.

[@mordziasty2]

Casio G Shock g-7710, as beater = 70 $ Citizen eco-drive EP6051-14L as everyday diver = 180 $ Seiko SPC255 as "9 to 5 office watch" = 155 $ Seiko SNA411 as standard Chronograph = 250 $ Zeppelin 7666-1 as dress watch = 255 $ total 910 usd , we can add extra straps/bracelets

[@Othusdragonreviews]

interesting split of a 5 watch collection, i personally separate it like this: -Beater (G-shock DW5600) -Sports Diver (Seiko Monster) -Everyday (Seiko SARB033) -Field (Hamilton khaki mechanical) -Dress (Junghans Max Bill)

[@diamondbed86]

Nice group. I always love that Vostok GMT.

[@derekwalter4238]

If you have the extra cash, the colareb napoli makes a fantastic 21mm leather strap for the bambino. They're typically somewhere around $90 and I understand that can be hard to justify for a watch that's under $200, but if you really like your bambino and want it to be the best it can be, colareb is the way to go.

[@larrydalton2205]

Shane, I was watching this year old video of yours again because it just came up from the home page and when I started thinking I realized I had in some variation 4 of the 5 watches (sort of) already. No Vostok at all. But I have the exact Escapement Time flieger, same V2 Bambino white dial rose gold, just the basic G-Shock 5600 g but should have gotten the solar Bluetooth radio version) and two Orient Mako USA 2 colors that is a close cousin to the Kamasu. Of course the Mako USA 2 is not available and unfortunately has no after market straps available but I got them for $200 each. Don't plan to get a Vostok but you could switch in Pagani Design PD-1644 with white dial and you would have a chronic. No wonder I like your channel so much.

[@osgoodbad]

Upgraded movement on an Orient Defender seems like a game changer. Any plans to come out with an updated review?

[@RelativeTime]

That's the plan. Just not sure when I'll have it out.

[@RoaroftheTiger]

@Relative Time - Shane, I couldn't help , but giggle; when you suggested Not to wear the Bambino, when your doing anything, too active. Very reminiscent to the old joke - " Doctor, It hurts me, when I do this." ... the Doctor - " Don't do this ! " ;-) lol

[@RelativeTime]

I was actually thinking of that when I said it. It may be an old joke, but I know a couple of Docs who like to say it all the time.

[@RoaroftheTiger]

@@RelativeTime lol Oh yeah ... some how, it never gets old ! All the Best. ;-)

[@bobmclennan1727]

Whether it's a $65 Timex quartz, a 5-figure Omega special edition, or something in between, every watch collection needs a Snoopy.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

I could not _disagree_ more. I have zero interest in Snoopy, Peanuts, Charles Schultz, Mickey Mouse, Ben 10, Dragonball Z, Street Fighter or any other cartoon/video game tie in watch. It's borderline disgusting to me.

[@bobmclennan1727]

Your objection has been noted for the record.

[@RelativeTime]

For me, Snoopy and Mickey are kind of the exceptions. Otherwise I think some of the other tie-ins are dumb. With Snoopy there is a historic connection with NASA and Omega. Where as a lot of people grew up with a Mickey Mouse watch of some kind.

[@karlsenula9495]

I think it depends where and when you are from. Outside of the U.S. less interest, younger than a certain generation again reduced interest.

[@halfpastblog]

Great list, Shane. We'll done hitting all those marks for under 1000. 👍👍👍

[@joseperez6613]

Just glad to see the Kamasu on this list. Cheers!

[@RelativeTime]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@davidhalldurham]

Very nice video! I'd love to see more of these.

[@gentensworld]

Mine's pretty simple and cheap (so far). Diver / water exposure: Casio Duro MDV106-B (blue dial) on stock strap. Dress-ish: Casio MTP-V005D-3B (cyan / turquoise dial) on Barton blue alligator grain leather strap. Field / military: Seiko SNK809 on cheap Marine Nationale clone strap. Runner up / "no remorse" daily beater: Invicta Pro Diver (Quartz) 26970 on a Barton Jetson "Bond" NATO. Wanting to add: Orient Ray Raven II, Citizen Chandler.

[@brianmsahin]

That's a very nice collection for $1,000. Excellent choices. I'm building an affordable collection myself but after the first three, I have about $22 out of a grand to cover the other two. Maybe I'll check out Ali Express. Lol.. I think I'll get away with another $300-400 though with what I have in mind. Great videos, a lot of really good advice for us newcomers. Much appreciated...

[@wazatam]

Beatiful video!one more one more!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks!

[@kevinwagner9934]

Great collection Shane. Stay safe.😷

[@maljones.8737]

Great video Shane.

[@evanspivack2714]

Nice selection! Great theme for a vid. Im not sure why people beat up on the Orient bracelet...I've had mine for a while and find it very comfortable. A milled clasp, though, would be nice!

[@RelativeTime]

The bracelet isn't that bad, but there is some definite room for improvement. Although I'd definitely recommend a strapcode.

[@rosco8166]

Can't argue with this Shane, great choices. Regards Rosco

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks!

[@eduardoarosemena655]

Great video, will you try a 3 watch collection on a 500 Dollars budget, a Diver, a Beater and a Dress?

[@mordziasty2]

Casio G Shock g-7710, as beater = 70 $ Citizen eco-drive EP6051-14L as everyday diver = 180 $ Seiko SPC255 as "9 to 5 office watch" = 155 $

[@AlpAslan]

Great video. I am now checking the Flieger :)

[@RelativeTime]

It's a great watch.

[@brents3906]

What was the band at 9:43?

[@twitchyjambo]

Great video, really enjoyed 🙂👍

[@stevefox8605]

Nice collection, doesn't look particularly like budget either. Very impressed with the flieger, will have a look at those myself (look forward to your review before deciding, of course) Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻

[@alexandredeoliveirapenna198]

Nice ideia!! Good choices.

[@jimv.6631]

Hmmm, really dig the flieger and didn’t know about it. So I learned something new today! 😂

[@javierjimenez786]

Shane, I loved that bambino small seconds paired with the green perlon. Which brand is it? I've tried ones from Cheapest Nato Straps but found them extremely stiff, and the buckle was so horribly designed that it was almost impossible to pass the strap through when trying to wear the strap.

[@haping1]

Nice collection. I really enjoy the Escapement Time Flieger watch almost every day and put it on a leader NATO strap. As you mentioned a chrono is missing. A Timex Waterbury classic or a Seagull 1963 clone or a Zeppelin LZ126 Los Angeles instead of the Orient Kamazu?

[@RelativeTime]

Great ideas. At one point I had a more expensive dress watch picked out, which took up a bigger chunk of the budget. So I was looking at a few timex chronos for the 5th spot. Maybe I'll have that in another version.

[@agaperion]

Yeah, if you can actually find a Reef GMT in stock. (It's my current hunt and hunting has not been happy.)

[@robwebster8472]

Great choices

[@rebornie]

Good choice of watches.

[@johnt2257]

great choices.

[@z-best8003]

You did excellent

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks!

[@Alias_Anybody]

My 5/3/2 watch collections always start with the Casio World Time. Quartz? Yes. Sports? Yes. GMT? Yes. Chrono? Yes. Alarms? Yes. Good Backlight? Yes. It doesn't look very fancy and it's no dedicated diver with lume, but that's kind of it. Also doesn't really impact the budget at all. For the second watch, you can combine diver&pilot with the Vostok Komandirskie 650840 (there are other colours if you don't like the red). Or, if you just want the high WR and don't need a bezel you can also pick the Escapement Time mentioned here, or the Steeldive/Addiesdive Fliegers. For my third pick, I'll go for a cheap sporty dress watch (or dressy sports watch?) and just take the Pagani Design Mecha Quartz PD-1654 or if I want something more minimalistic the Starking BM0965 ultra thin sapphire dress watch. Now, that's 20€ + 60-90€ + 20-30€ = ~120€ for a reliable three watch collection without any huge follow-up service costs.

[@timedrightwatches7999]

Thanks for the shout out. Love your picks, and the process on how you narrowed the field. That vostok is atypically alluring 👍. Interestingly no seiko pieces, whom traditionally dominated the entry level. Is it your subjective choice, or are they simply not budget friendly anymore? I would swap the bambino, "babying" a watch to make sure it doesnt scuff seems impractical.

[@RelativeTime]

No problem. In some ways I think Seiko has sort of priced themselves out. This was actually the second set I came up with. The first one I had the grey Seiko DressKX in place of the bambino. They are going for around $250+ still just for the watch, let alone an additional strap. Which made it a bit harder to pick out a good 5th watch.

[@timedrightwatches7999]

@@RelativeTime LOL, that grey dressKX is precisely the one I had in mind 😁. I respect your curation and that you didnt go that route and put a Casio F91 for the fifth, it drives me nuts when people do that. What would have been your fifth?

[@RelativeTime]

@@timedrightwatches7999 There were a couple I was thinking of. One was a Cadisen watch I called the Cadisen Imperial but looks like you can't find it anymore. I was also thinking Chronos, so I was looking at Timex Weekender or the Timex Fairfleid supernova. For some reason, those are dirt cheap now. Although the collection didn't seem quite as balanced with the dresskx taking up so much of the budget.

[@timedrightwatches7999]

@@RelativeTime Indeed, always a trade off when staying under a set value. Weighing out all of the variables I see why you went with the Bambino & Kamasu versus a DressKX & Timex. The Kamasu will be on your wrist more often than in a drawer.

[@mattys1467]

Great balanced collection 👌 👏

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks a lot

[@acyphium]

Great as usual 👍

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

It's nice to the Escapement Time appear on this list. Does this mean you're warming towards AliExpress watches a bit now Shane? I recently reviewed a subscribers Orient Kamasu on a Strapcode Jubilee bracelet. I loved it so much I ordered one for myself. I went for the red dial as well. I'm probably going to upgrade the bracelet though, as the stock one isn't the best.

[@RelativeTime]

I've always liked Ali watches, I just haven't been covering them as much. Part of that is lack of time. It seems like I spend at least 10-15hrs per video (not very efficient), and I can only do so much. The other reason is that for a while I never saw anything I quite liked. I'd look every couple of months and see the same dress watches from Starking, Cadisen, and Guanqin. So after a bit I stopped paying attention. Some point after that newer brands started popping up with some more interesting choices, like Steel Dive. As well as San Martin went from "Your crazy to spend that much" to "Best Bang for your buck!" I'm still surprised to see as many San Martin videos coming out as their are. When I put out that flieger video way back when, it seemed like most people had never heard of them.

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

@@RelativeTime That makes sense. I'm beginning to get to that point myself now. Too many watches, not enough time. First World problems hey? I know what you mean about things got a bit stale for a while. I didn't have a channel back then, but I was buying quite a few Ali watches, and it felt like I got to the point where I had all the good ones, and was waiting for something new and different to come out. San Martin really do make some quality pieces. They just need to work on the branding a bit though. They seem to have a new logo for each watch lately. The other thing with them is that their prices are getting a little steep for the Ali model I think. They should probably consider becoming a proper Microbrand at this point perhaps. As I can't see them reducing their prices again now.

[@JosephVice]

Have you seen the steel dive 1970 Willard watch? Looks too good to be true.

[@RelativeTime]

No I haven't. I'll check it out.

[@J0hnny8ravo]

Great choices!

[@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm]

Orient Bambino v2 With Arabic numerals at the 12, 6, 9 With the small seconds in the Silver dial. I have a ridiculous amount of watches… But I have now sold off or I’m selling off all dress watches… That’s the only one I need and the only one that I truly like… Problem with other bambinos they’re too big… 40.5 unfortunately is the smallest and those of the version 2’s...I’ve actually ordered a don’t Crystal replacement from Crystal times and I’m going to attempt to mod it...I’m a bull in a China shop so I’ve already scratched it😣 Thanks for a cool list...And oh by the way you are the strap king Shane!

[@dude28405]

I would be interested in seeing a collection not with necessarily a Of total prices but what is the best Affordable watches with the best specs for money in each category what would the total be? I would even be willing to say any upgrades in straps. Or the best five Casio watch collection Casio. You could compete With Dave with just the watch and maybe even leave it up to the audience to decide who the winner is

[@AlejandroHernandez-sk6lp]

As always great video

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks again!

[@SilverSergeant]

Very, very Nice collection, considering the budget. There just wasn't enough room to slide an Orient Star in there..... :)

[@RelativeTime]

Yah... not quite. Although that's what Dave did with his by including the Orient Star Outdoor, which is why his toped out at $1500.

[@jerryhollando91]

What are your thoughts on the Orient Defender 2 VS the Original? I sold my original a while ago and have a bit of regret, and I've looked at the 2nd version and the design doesn't look as good IMO.

[@RelativeTime]

I don't like the design quite as much, but that was done due to the new movement. Which is also the big advantage that the defender 2 has. Adds hacking, and hand-winding. So for me, that alone is worth it. The hands are also a little different. Partly skeletonized, and a little more aviation like. Which I think I like better. Especially the skeletonized bit as it doesn't obstruct the subdials as much. Also love the red tipped second hand that the original didn't have. That macro shot at 00:49 looks great.

[@AJMacDonaldJr]

Great choices! 😃

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! 😊

[@tedblack2415]

I think its a solid looking collection considering there's only the one inclusion from Ali-x but still a decent one ,i'd probably swap out the bambino for an Ali special with sapphire & bracelet $50-100 max (there's enough choice) if yr not fussed about re-sale. Enjoyed the post ,slick delivery as ever. (edit) How about a micro-brand $1200 4 watch or 5 if you really push it?

[@Edgaros]

Good choices with the exception of the Bambino. I know mine is an unpopular opinion, but i cannot give the title "dress" to a watch that is 42mm and has a date window. Especially when in most Bambinos the date windows are terribly incorporated, thus make the watches suffer aesthetically. And aesthetics is where a dress watch must shine. I'd suggest Vostok Classica instead. Check them out, they are great and big enough to be considered modern dress watches without being oversized.

[@RelativeTime]

I've actually been waiting for the Classica to come back in stock. I emailed Dimitry and asked if they were discontinued, and supposedly they aren't. Yet it's been almost a year since I last saw them in stock at Meranom. If they do, I'll order one.

[@Edgaros]

@@RelativeTime I am right there with you. Waiting for the restock like a predator. Glad you didn't take my input the wrong way, i just cringe with the Bambinos being the default dress choice for almost everybody. I think they are more of a hybrid between a dress and an everyday watch...

[@evanspivack2714]

@@Edgaros That might be their best selling point, actually. It doesn't get locked into a strict dress mode, but certainly can suit most dress situations, excepting tuxedo/black tie. I do wish mine was 39 mm though!

[@Edgaros]

@@evanspivack2714 But real dress occasions are special and rare, so why not have a proper dress watch? Why fill this spot with a "watered down" version, which won't exactly fit the occasion aesthetically? In all other in-between occasions and everyday life, you can do better with the "sarb-like" watches of the world than with any Bambino if you ask me. Unless of course you really like the watch, then i completely understand. I personally find the Bambino line as a great wasted opportunity (with some exceptions i kinda like). And hey, Vostok Classicas are 39mm... ;)

[@evanspivack2714]

@@Edgaros I have to look at the classica...it sounds good! Love my other Vostoks, so I have high hopes.

[@JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm]

Do you have a source of where I can find this Bosrock GMT? This is the one I’d like to have and I can’t find it?!

[@RelativeTime]

I usually put links in the description, but if I don't have anything try Meranom or eBay. Meranom usually sells out quick when they get more, so right now they are harder to find.

[@drgjs]

Replace the flieger category with a diver-or-flieger-or-field watch, and I'd be more supportive. a lot of great microbrands that could have really stepped into the limelight as well. The Vaer explorer-homage, for example. terrific, american assembled with American quartz....

[@RelativeTime]

I heard Vaer had started using the Ameri quartz movement, but didn't know about the explorer-homage. I'll have to check it out.

[@michaelb41]

Very interesting!!!

[@dude28405]

I watch collector with only five watches what kind a savage would do such a thing!

[@mrbacchus6127]

A gshock can do multiple time zones, no need for a dedicated gmt baby. Actually a G can do mostly all except dress.

[@RelativeTime]

True, but doesn't always look as nice.

[@HVG67]

Obviously the G-shock is a GMT too. Just a digital one. Also a dive watch if you think about it. So in fact you're covering three in one (quartz, GMT, diver/beater). So no need for the Vostok. The Bambino actually is a nice dress watch and casual watch. For the flieger I would go with the Citizen AW1360-12H. Yes it's not a real flieger but close enough and very practical. And if you want to be really cheeky, get the Nighthawk as that would be a pilot's watch and GMT. So with only three watches I would cover all the basics. And would leave more money for something a bit more special. Like my Zelos Blacktip Frost or the bronze 40mm Swordfish for $299! (Except I ordered the 22mm bronze bracelet for it as well for $200, so that's a bit of cheating).

[@RelativeTime]

I was originally thinking about the Citizen Nighthawk, but prices on the original keep going up. Amazon right now $297 for the old one, and $338 for the new V2s. It's a great watch, but at that price I figured it took up too much of the budget.

[@HVG67]

@@RelativeTimetrue, they are not as affordable. That's why the other Citizen is a better deal. But if you think about it the Casio is the do it all watch...

[@dpgdpg7671]

Scratched my Bambino crystal by bumping into a door knob. Active or not that crystal is getting scratched lol. Still love it. Good video

[@karimdelakarim]

Cool man.

[@tuzu1758]

I can't remember if I did this. So forgive me if you find a duplicate post. #1 Diver Seiko #2 GMT Graf Zeppelin #3 Dress Orient Bambino Gen.2 Ver.2 #4 Field Watch Orient Defender #5 Beater Seiko SNK 809.

[@timmcdonald5335]

Another challenge would be to keep the dimensions to less than 42mm X 13mm.

[@RelativeTime]

Well if I remember right, most of these are close. Might be interesting to try a sub 40 version.

[@japd7897]

You forgot to include a Gyrotourbillon Perpetual calendar Minute Repeater.

[@RelativeTime]

The what now?

[@japd7897]

@@RelativeTime You considered a GMT, Flieger, dress, diver, ... but no Gyrotourbillon Perpetual calendar with Minute Repeater, that is basic in any watch collection. For just $800.000 you can have this kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXTNh6qImbFrn8U

[@RelativeTime]

@@japd7897 Aw Gotcha. I remember hearing about that one, but never looked into it much. When the price on their site is listed as "Price on Demand", you might as well just start bending over now. www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/en/watches/master/master-grande-tradition-gyrotourbillon-westminster-perpetual/5253420.html

[@japd7897]

@@RelativeTime Yeah!, you better sit before hearing the price 😂.

[@BryanO92]

My dude, a $30 strap on a $90 watch is NOTHING. I wore a $70 Barton on a $40 Starking for a long time. It was ridiculous, but they really worked well together, it was a good look.

[@RelativeTime]

LOL! Yah that's a bit more ridiculous, but hard to put a price on comfort.

[@steve69chevy]

$500 collection but it’s no fair because I started a quarter century ago when prices were low and I bought my $600 Marathon for 240 from the government

[@jacobpartin4553]

I recently learned that escapement time is a one man operation, he recently came out with an skx homage

[@RelativeTime]

I've heard that. When I put out the review on the Chrono version, I sent them a message linking it and asking for more information about them. All I got back was a "Thank You". So not quite sure they understood what I was asking. I'll try again sometime. I'm really curious to know more about him/them.

[@wondertanguy]

I get my "full orient" collection for less then 500 lol mako xl, defender, sparta, tristar and sun and moon open heart. Ok Ok, i got a trick... second hand market for half oh those ;) 470 euros

[@cedarcanoe]

It surprises me you didn’t turn to AliExpress for good quality at a minimal price

[@RelativeTime]

I did with the Fliegers, and the G-shock bracelet.

[@cedarcanoe]

@@RelativeTime i must have missed that then, thank you

[@freehaven1]

Close your eyes and imagine Patrick Bateman from American Psycho is sharing watch wisdom with you....... very chilling

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

Most watch _idiot_ savant's five watch collections: 1) a dive watch 2) a dive watch 3) another dive watch 4) a _dress_ dive watch 5) a bEaTeR dive watch

[@RelativeTime]

I think I've seen that, plus most of them are Seikos. I think I should try to put together another collection, but with no divers. Although still have few with good water resistance.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

@@RelativeTime No divers in a collection would make WIS heads explode. "How can I time how long it takes the pizza guy to get here?! M'PASTA! Grrrrrrrrr!" I can absolutely appreciate a screw down crown and water resistant but divers, as a whole, are chunky, ugly and don't _slip right under my chuff in donkeys ages._ Happy to see some non divers with screw down crowns becoming more plentiful in the market (RZA Resolute, Traska Commuter/Summiter, Mitch Mason Chronicle, etc.)

[@bjornegan6421]

meanwhile i am in the conundrum of all i want is the casio duro but with the best lume in the world. that's it. a $40 casio duro with the absolute best lume that exists. i want that watch. it doesn't exist. how can i get it?

[@RelativeTime]

You could always buy a duro and try to apply extra lume to it, but that's going to cost a bit more then $40. Unless you are dead set on the Duro design, my best bet would be to take a look at the citizen eco-drive Promaster. BN0151-09L kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWS8Zqqen8t9mqM Really fantastic lume, and every so often Amazon has them on sale. I've seen them down to around $100 before.

[@bjornegan6421]

@@RelativeTime your response is partly indicative of why yours is my favorite watch channel and you are my favorite reviewer. i have that promaster. snagged it for just under $100. i think this was based on your thoughts about a year ago or so. one of my '5 watch collection' of a vostok, g shock, duro, promaster, and the invicta sub looking thing. the duro is just my favorite all time watch. it's very well built, looks great, fits me perfectly, bezel works pretty good, i really like the movement so far as it is pretty accurate, reliable, and always hits the indices dead on... and all that considering it costs $40 ish.. the only thing i don't like is the lume. i've considered trying to apply lume myself and very briefly looked into paying someone to. it just seems as though after paying $100 ish to have it lumed, the appeal of the watch would fade a bit seeing as how it's now 'expensive' in my taste. but that may be how i'll go. gotta figure out how to go about it first. thanks for your very logical, very well informed advice.