The moisture when using a torch is a byproduct of combustion on the room temp metal, not water coming out of the metal. As the metal gets hotter, the moisture disappears as it transitions to a gaseous state. I'm going to cerakote a pair of those exact manifolds. Thanks for showing your process.
@ACDesignsGarage9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!!!
@AnthonyCelata8 ай бұрын
You beat me to the punch. 100% correct. There is no moisture being pulled out of that metal its condensation. Science.....
@73SDR5 ай бұрын
@@AnthonyCelata Certainly much of what can be seen is combustion moisture being deposited on the iron, and then evaporated. I don't see why that would preclude moisture already on the iron from also being evaporated. I've got manifold project going on now, and I'm planning on using a heat gun blowing into it for a few minutes to avoid the issue.
@AnthonyCelata5 ай бұрын
@@73SDR There is no moisture. You'll get better results if you just wash it with dish soap and water. At least then you would have a reason to dry it.
@gertjevanpoppel72709 ай бұрын
A lot from the moisture is not coming from the cast iron but from the map gas itself. When map gas burn a lot of moisture is released from the gas molecules burning process. Burning map gas It can also leave a soot residue . Maybe it's a better idea to use a old electric oven to heat up and degassing the parts 😀
@ACDesignsGarage9 ай бұрын
The oven is a great idea!!!!
@rtk1122 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!!!!!!
@fixinstuff9662 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea. Now I'm looking at the specs on Cerakote. Mapp gas is a mixture that includes propane and the propane turns into water and carbon dioxide when it burns. While the metal is still cool, some of that moisture from the torch will condense on the manifold before it warms up. As long as you can keep the cast iron warmer than the ambient temperature, it won't take on moisture. Ovens work great if you have one just for shop use.
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the tips!!!!
@fixinstuff9662 Жыл бұрын
It looks great, hopefully it lasts for a long time @@ACDesignsGarage
@robtownsen1100 Жыл бұрын
mapp or propane add a lot of moisture, best off to use heat lamps. I have tested heated products with propane, then heat lamps. You can see the moisture disappear after it has been heated with propane. The heat lamp bulbs significantly reduce flash rust. This has been my experience.
@BillyP-49Chevy13 күн бұрын
It's December 2024 and it's been a year approximately since the video was made. How did it last over a years time?
@VashSpiegel Жыл бұрын
Run a file over the edges of the tape, makes trimming quicker.
@fixinstuff9662 Жыл бұрын
That does work great.
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Ill try that, I usually use a sanding block but got in a hurry, but a file would work better! Thanks for the tip!!!!!!
@Kurnacopia9 ай бұрын
Outstanding point...thanks.
@immytay65 Жыл бұрын
I've learned a bit from this channel, makes me want to take on another project this winter, thanks so much.
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, go ahead and get that project, everyone needs 3 lol
@itsalldoableКүн бұрын
I was surprised that you didn't cure the Cerakote in an oven. Turned out nice though. I am just doing some research as i am getting near to wanting to do some Cerakote soon. I have my own Powder Coating facility so Cerakote is the next thing I need to be trying. Cheers Paul from "It's ALL Doable" UK
@ACDesignsGarageКүн бұрын
Thanks for the comment. As for the Cerakote, I used the C seris, which is air dry, also it's UV stable, unlike the H seris, which is a catalyzed heat cure. Check out the C seris. I think you'll like it!!!! Merry Christmas
@BillyP-49Chevy13 күн бұрын
I'm going to VHT the hot side of my turbo exhaust and bake it. If you've done that how did it turn out? I will be applying a primer and then the color.
@ACDesignsGarage12 күн бұрын
I still haven't fired that thing up yet lol, ill post something as soon as I run it a little
@UnconventionalMetal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I was wondering about it and you’ve opened my mind to another possibility.
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
I love this stuff, just ordered some more for my wheels!!
@jeffersonheath706510 ай бұрын
Nice... is there a waiting period between coats?
@ACDesignsGarage10 ай бұрын
10 to 15 minutes is what they say between coats, thanks for watching!!!
@charlescarter92705 ай бұрын
Actually they say apply in a single application, 1 to 2 mils thick, which isn't much. Just enough to cover the item. If it ever runs it's too thick.
@davidhaas252810 ай бұрын
How have these held up? Cast can be tricky with Cerakote. I always degrease tank them, sand blast, outgas for a couple hours, blast again, then coat.
@davidhaas252810 ай бұрын
Also, it is perfectly fine to coat the flange mating surfaces. it actually tends to help from rust creeping under the coating.
@Wofski Жыл бұрын
Looks good!!!
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Brandonscode Жыл бұрын
You can help that sand blaster window out with some rubbing alcohol and then clear packing tape! There some good KZbin videos showing the trick to make it clear again
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks ill try that!!!!
@jeffflanagan2814 Жыл бұрын
Link please?
@vg23air4 ай бұрын
you can do better with mothers aluminum polish, also works on yellow car headlights and it's easier and faster than specific products made for that purpose
@rtk1122 Жыл бұрын
I am definitely going to try this. I’d like to try the Black Velvet color on the headers and side pipes I’ll be installing on my Corvette. Is the sand blasting a requirement because I can’t get them in my blast cabinet? Sure would like to see your exhaust after a couple of actual heat cycles. Cerakote has got to be head and shoulders better than any high temperature paint for that price. Pretty sure it will take several bottles for my project. Now that my shop is out of the 100+ degrees maybe I can get back to work. Thanks for the video. Learned a lot.
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Your very welcome, Im going to use a DA sander and 80 grit to do the other pipes, they wont fit in my cabinet eaither. I may do a sample spray out and heat it with a torch. Im gonna do my valve covers with that black velvet also.
@rtk1122 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Man!
@davidhaas252810 ай бұрын
As per Cerakote's training manual, sandblasting with 100 grit media is a must. It needs a very fine, toothy profile to properly adhere. @@rtk1122
@jamespolucha87907 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I’m owing to try it
@ACDesignsGarage7 ай бұрын
You got this its pretty fun to spray!!!!
@kickasspowdercoating9 ай бұрын
Hey you don't need to tape off the header its better to coat all of it inside and out so it protects the metal .
@ACDesignsGarage9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip, I haven't mounted them yet, ill go back and spray them. I wasn't sure if it would effect the sealing.
@Kurnacopia9 ай бұрын
duhhh....excellent point. I am too used to paint prepping.
@scottfromfl6828 Жыл бұрын
It looks good I wouldn't do the valve covers just my opinion
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, I agree with you, I think im gonna stay black on the valve covers.
@joseantoniodaly487510 ай бұрын
Does cerakote gets mixed with a solvent or used pure ?
@ACDesignsGarage10 ай бұрын
The air cure that I used in the video is straight out of the bottle. All you do is shake it real good then strain it and put it in the gun!!! The H seris has to be catalyzed and heat cured.
@joseantoniodaly487510 ай бұрын
@@ACDesignsGarage I bought C series !
@greenman7yyy7 ай бұрын
I'd like to see how it looks after use, like a year of driving.
@ACDesignsGarage7 ай бұрын
Me to lol, I need to get back on that truck, ive seen other guys manifolds and they look brand new after alot of running!!!!
@lewisla2010 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Curious how that sample card turned out with the 80grit prep?
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I did my exhaust pipes with 80 on a DA sander and it looked exactly the same. It turned out just like the blasted!!!!
@greasydot Жыл бұрын
How did your oven work out that yall built
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Pretty well, I think it needs another burner so it comes back up to temperature after you open the door. I really like this C seris I used on these manafolds, its air dry no need for a oven. Ill try to shoot a video on the oven cure soon. Thank you for the support!!!
@greasydot Жыл бұрын
@@ACDesignsGarage awesome. I am thinking of getting into doing scopes, rifles and pistols is why I was asking. I have an upright freezer I am going to get all the plastic out and line with durarock cement board and an old electric oven for smaller parts and 22 inch barrels.
@vg23air4 ай бұрын
this is one way to do it, not the right way, but it's one way.
@yves3560 Жыл бұрын
How to turn a 5 minute video into a 25 minute one...
@syn40576 ай бұрын
It’s called “making content”. He also showed every bit of work. Not everyone knows how to do all the prep work to make paint stick. How properly paint and the wonderful idea of using eye hook bolts. You maybe very knowledgeable and that’s great. Maybe you should make KZbin videos to help new builders, like he is doing.
@bmclaurine10 ай бұрын
Sorry but until I see a ceracote part that's been in use for a while, I doubt that this will not burn off
@ACDesignsGarage10 ай бұрын
Ill post it up later on, ive saw a ton of it ran and still looks new. For the price you cant go to wrong!!!
@mikelmorgan64099 ай бұрын
They cerakote the tops of pistons.
@charlescarter92705 ай бұрын
It looks good but if you used 8 oz you put it on way too thick. I've done a set of manifolds, set of shorty headers, multiple small parts, bolts, nuts etc and I'm still not at 8oz. Also, no reason to mask off areas on the manifold.
@vrcustoms75 ай бұрын
Which product did u use?
@ACDesignsGarage5 ай бұрын
The air dry c series
@BondanHeru11 ай бұрын
Anyone ever try on 2 stroke exhaust chamber coating?
@jimprodan677610 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't you Blast them first? Now they need to be cleaned again to get all the dust off them.
@ACDesignsGarage10 ай бұрын
I did blow them off then shot them with brake clean right before coating them.If you watch cerakots videos they don't clean them after blasting for some reason
@arnoldwilson37198 ай бұрын
next time when you tape up flanges just take a rubber mallet to the edges to remove excess tape faster.
@ACDesignsGarage8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!!!!!
@strokermaverick Жыл бұрын
Make sure, to show it on the running engine.
@ACDesignsGarage Жыл бұрын
Definitely will do, I still have to break the cam in, so will give it a run for the money lol
@BrianReno-qy9wk9 ай бұрын
The inside is even more important. Watch a jet hot video or the way they cost the top of a part but not the back or inside. The uncoated part is sky high temps
@marccheckpoint53538 ай бұрын
Why not to blast first ?
@ACDesignsGarage8 ай бұрын
I like to clean them first cause you can push the grease and contaminants down in the material.
@BrianReno-qy9wk9 ай бұрын
Still going to be hot inside the uncoated metal. Probably be even worse for the engine the heat can't escape. Jet hot flow coats the inside and outside
@ACDesignsGarage9 ай бұрын
I dont think the cerakote is really a great heat barrier but I could be wrong, they do sell this exact manifold pre cerakoted. Ill let everyone know how it does.
@barenekid96957 ай бұрын
Product might be Good but the Shipping charges equal the already Pricey cost of Cerakote.
@ACDesignsGarage7 ай бұрын
Yeah shipping stinks, sometimes jegs does some deals on shipping. But unless you have something else to cerakote your probably better off buying it finished like you said!!!
@bng26799 ай бұрын
So I can't do it at home, I don't have a sand blaster.
@ACDesignsGarage9 ай бұрын
You can use a sander with 80 grit but a sandblaster works best, harborfreight makes a nice bench top blast cabinet for cheap.
@bng26799 ай бұрын
@@ACDesignsGarage thank you, I will check that out.
@s2k44210 ай бұрын
Thats a lot of work and not everyone has access to a sand blaster. Interesting video though. I will take my motorcycle headers to a professional powder coater instead.
@ACDesignsGarage10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, you can use 80 grit on a da sander on smooth surfaces, but the cast stuff is hard to get in the nooks to get a good bite.
@user-rb1yf4he9q7 ай бұрын
Always trust a guy with a country accent when working on a car.
@ACDesignsGarage7 ай бұрын
For sure lol!!!!
@user-rb1yf4he9q7 ай бұрын
@@ACDesignsGarage the last place for real mechanics. Can always make something out of nothing and make it work better than original. And I’m saying this as a Californian whose car took a crap in Georgia and the kid fixed it without ever working on that model. Bravo southern ingenuity!
@jeepinSD4 ай бұрын
Just because you’re not mechanically inclined doesn’t mean they’re better than Californians.
@user-rb1yf4he9q4 ай бұрын
Completely agree ( from experience ). This goes for any rural mechanic. They just seem to get it.
@jonathanhensley86856 ай бұрын
Please don’t use the chlorinated brake cleaner with the torch. It’s extremely bad for your lungs and health. 👍🏼
@ACDesignsGarage6 ай бұрын
I never buy that stuff ,it's bad news
@hughiemaceachern52829 ай бұрын
You didn't need to bake it
@ACDesignsGarage9 ай бұрын
No this is the C seris ,its air cure and its UV stable so the sun wont fade it out like the heat treated version, also its good up to 1800 degrees!!!
@chevypowerish5 ай бұрын
Cerakote is absolute junk. My headers, coated by a cerakote dealer is rusting about 5k miles.
@JoeThomasBall2 ай бұрын
stainless steel or mild?
@chevypowerishАй бұрын
@@JoeThomasBall They are factory ram horn headers.
@Genwonspeed325 күн бұрын
☝️☝️☝️ my friend....
@paratracker23 күн бұрын
Rumor: long tube headers and EPA compliance are non-intersecting sets. Catalytic converters do their best work around 750F, but 1200F would damage (vaporize) the catalyzing material. JBA1809 shorty headers are CARB approved on LS engines, presumably because collector proximity to the head is identical to the OEM manifold. If we coated the inside of the long-tubes with Cerakote C-186 Piston Coat and the outside with Cerakote C-7900Q Glacier Titanium to keep as much heat in the tubes as possible... could we achieve the desired 750F operating temp in long-tube cats?