Can You Fuse Rocks Together With EXTREME Pressure?

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Hydraulic Press Channel

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9 ай бұрын

Turning Small Rocks and sand Into Large Rock with Hydraulic Press with extreme pressure of 47 000 bars using 150 ton hydrqulic press and Practicing for Creating Ice VII at the same time. Why? Because I Can! Got Ideas for More Rock-Making Experiments? Let Us Know
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@HydraulicPressChannel
@HydraulicPressChannel 8 ай бұрын
We are on filming trip at the moment so we are too busy to answer comments right now but hope you like the video!
@TRB_TheRedBrick
@TRB_TheRedBrick 8 ай бұрын
bro i commented before you did lol
@drshoe8744
@drshoe8744 8 ай бұрын
HEAT, you need Heat and Pressure to make Rocks into Rocks.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 8 ай бұрын
When you do read this comment you’re going to need to do a little research if it makes you want to try what I’m going to suggest. What you said about rocks being dry on the inside reminded me of a thing in the chemistry of rocks and minerals called “water of hydration”. It is in regard to the fact that many minerals do contain water attached to the chemical components of the mineral which can be driven off, completely changing the crystal structure and behavior of the material. Think of the difference between limestone, quicklime and slaked lime. Normally heat is used to drive water out of a rock, but can you do it with pressure too?
@Roger__Wilco
@Roger__Wilco 8 ай бұрын
@@drshoe8744 Just heat really, with pressure you're probably just gonna spray molten lava everywhere! (Which would be pretty cool with the cylinder that has the tiny opening!)
@Hokefi
@Hokefi 8 ай бұрын
Maybe you shuld make rocks to clay to rock, so there is water to spread heat around when under pressure.
@georghammerschmid8577
@georghammerschmid8577 8 ай бұрын
To turn such minerals into actual rock instead of compressed powder, you need to apply pressure AND heat. Without raising the temperature to at least a few hundred °C (more is better), you'll only crush the crytals instead of fusing them together. My recommendation would be to first crush it to max. pressure to let the hardened piston do its work, then blast it with a blowtorch for at least 10-20 min. Let it cool slowly to room temperature, the result should be a little closer to a rock. Trying to get metastable ice VII btw. is a very interesting idea. Again, I would recommend to hold the pressure for a few minutes after crushing the water to give it time to move through all the phase transitions. As a high pressure seal, you probably wont get good results with rubber. Use a soft metal instead (try lead or copper).
@infernaldaedra
@infernaldaedra 8 ай бұрын
At enough pressure the rocks will heat themselves
@waynegriswold8953
@waynegriswold8953 8 ай бұрын
im no scientist but to me it makes since to heat the rocks up first and then crush them. because we have already seen what no heat does, it it turns everything into powder. when things are red hot they get gooey. it seems like it would be harder to get millions of fine little rock powder pieces to connect to each other than 2 or 3 rocks. to keep them as rocks and not turn things into glass.
@essentialjudge2279
@essentialjudge2279 8 ай бұрын
Is a blow torch the same as a Crack lighter?
@infernaldaedra
@infernaldaedra 8 ай бұрын
@@essentialjudge2279 Yes. 9/10 if someone carries big lighters they smoke crack
@DaveC2729
@DaveC2729 8 ай бұрын
@@infernaldaedra True but pressure counteracts the effects of heat. That's why they can make hot ice by raising the pressure like that; conversely, you can make water boil at subzero temperatures with a vacuum chamber. I'm afraid OP is right; they'll need more heat for this to work.
@sopastar
@sopastar 8 ай бұрын
You're really close to being able to make diamonds! You only need 50 000 bars, and to heat the coal to 1200°C
@jtcustomknives
@jtcustomknives 8 ай бұрын
I was a machinist for a company that made the solid tungsten carbide dies that US synthetic used to make synthetic diamonds. I got a tour of the lab and it was really cool. Crazy huge hydraulic rams pushing in from every direction onto a tiny can filled with carbon. Then pass electricity through it to heat it.
@proberts34
@proberts34 8 ай бұрын
@@jtcustomknives Yeah. . .I'm pretty sure we don't want to encourage these two to start running electricity through their experiments. I've been watching this channel and the Beyond the Press channel for years. They're likely to go overboard and weld everything together. 😃
@devinchi1
@devinchi1 8 ай бұрын
You're forgetting about time in your calculations.
@sopastar
@sopastar 8 ай бұрын
This isn't a calculation. It's more like a shopping list, and I guarantee that their refrigerator is already stocked up on time
@zqzj
@zqzj 8 ай бұрын
Timeeeeee......
@kestrel4294
@kestrel4294 8 ай бұрын
It is ridiculous how much enjoyment I get out of these videos…
@The_Keeper
@The_Keeper 8 ай бұрын
When you switch to Tungsten rods, please be careful, as those are super brittle, and have a *very* high likelyhood of exploding under pressure.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 8 ай бұрын
Maybe put a 20mm hole and piston on both sides of the 10mm hole and tungsten piston . Drilling these stacked holes should be relatively easy on the lathe .
@mattt198654321
@mattt198654321 8 ай бұрын
NO DO NOT BE CAREFUL MAKE THOSE PUPPIES EXPLODE!!!!
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn 8 ай бұрын
It's not a bug, it's a feature
@WoodworkerDon
@WoodworkerDon 8 ай бұрын
Hanna @3:15 "This looks very professional." 😂😂😂
@southernmama9362
@southernmama9362 8 ай бұрын
I love his fascination with making his own rocks❤
@bellowphone
@bellowphone 8 ай бұрын
First rule: Do not crush any of your body parts. Thank you, I did not know that.
@filippe999
@filippe999 8 ай бұрын
have you thought about making the pressing tool a bit of a cone-shape ? that way it'll be harder for you to deform it going in, it'll also help focus the pressure into a smaller area if you also cut material of the cylinder itself for it to fit.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 8 ай бұрын
You have enough pressure, you just have to leave the sand in the press for a few million years to turn it into proper rock 🙂
@michaelwright2986
@michaelwright2986 8 ай бұрын
I love the cackles of laughter every time something breaks.
@stalhandske9649
@stalhandske9649 8 ай бұрын
This channel has truly hot the rock bottom. I'll see myself out.
@AroundTheBlockAgain
@AroundTheBlockAgain 8 ай бұрын
Using safety measures "so all of the problems stay inside of the box" is honestly a wonderful safety message. Sometimes things happen. Sometimes these things are Problems. Keep the Problems far away from you. Contain the Problems inside of a box.
@helbertgascon
@helbertgascon 8 ай бұрын
Really interested to see if you can succeed to even at least make ice-6 with a hydraulic press 😁
@DolaForfan
@DolaForfan 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, this channel is better than other press channels I've seen. Your commenting on the important bits and letting the audience know exactly what you are doing. Trying to be scientific in your observations and communicating well. Kör hårt mina Finska vänner, hälsningar från Sverige
@970357ers
@970357ers 8 ай бұрын
Combine the press with an induction heater. Most rocks require high pressure and temperature to form.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 8 ай бұрын
Problem is to only heat the center and not the heavy containment cylinder around it . Also don't make the pistons so hot they weld themselves to the cylinder .
@T3sl4
@T3sl4 8 ай бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 Yep; if you can treat the cylinder as almost a gasket, flexible at temperature but strong enough to still be worth using, and surround that by enough strong things, or pistons or whatever, to contain it, that would do. But that's obviously a very complicated thing to make... The next best would be some reasonably conductive yet very strong plugs, and running extremely high currents through them -- think spotwelder, but whole-tool sized, and water cooled around the band (cylinder) to keep it cold and strong. This would probably require molybdenum alloy; I'm not sure what else is anywhere near strong enough and also conductive enough to do the job, other than very specialty ceramic composites or carbides, and even then I'm not sure any Mo alloys are strong enough /and/ retain low resistance. Induction would be involved, but just a regular mains transformer will do. It would be in the 10kA range probably.
@tammyhollandaise
@tammyhollandaise 8 ай бұрын
To push the rods out, you could use some ball bearings that are slightly smaller than the hole. Each time you push one in, add another on top and push again.
@1959BB
@1959BB 8 ай бұрын
Anni's laugh really is quite something. Also in the background at 5.24 when she says 'Oh no.' Is perfect.
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 8 ай бұрын
Hanna.
@Charlieporras1
@Charlieporras1 8 ай бұрын
They got divorced, Anne is not there anymore 😩
@1959BB
@1959BB 8 ай бұрын
Oh right, my mistake. Still the point stands on the laugh and the 'Oh no.'.
@monke-ei6iu
@monke-ei6iu 8 ай бұрын
i love this new series of compressing things together rather than letting them fly all over the place
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn 8 ай бұрын
3:19
@monke-ei6iu
@monke-ei6iu 8 ай бұрын
@@Faesharlyn we dont talk about that...
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y 8 ай бұрын
3:17 yep. my favorite moment.
@marksmithson1414
@marksmithson1414 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully you can get ice 7 accomplished
@inkyskink
@inkyskink 8 ай бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that at the bottom of the Kola Superdeep Borehole, the biggest issue they had with going deeper was that the rock became sort of ductile like soft metal and tended to gum up the drill rather than break. Maybe under those circumstances, the sand would combine. Perhaps some sort of Gallium powder would be a good analog.
@MrJamesBanana
@MrJamesBanana 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Freshly cast iron behaves the same way even if it has cooled down. The metal needs a few days to settle before machining properly.
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 8 ай бұрын
Rocks are supposed to be formed with pressure and heat so if you increase both you might get it to work and actually make a sandstone without having to get it super hot if it has really high pressure.
@EDKFtravels
@EDKFtravels 8 ай бұрын
Do not know if this is something you can do but always thought it would be a neat experiment. Crushing rocks, or sand but putting epoxy in it. Do 2 different ones. One the epoxy cures at ambient pressures, and 2nd the epoxy cures at super high pressures. Keep up the great videos!!!
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 8 ай бұрын
Epoxy is cheating . These experiments are like crushing coal into diamonds by focusing pressure into a tight space .
@vihreelinja4743
@vihreelinja4743 8 ай бұрын
Curing epoxy under immense pressures might make it super hard. or not harden at all :D we need to find out!
@witchdoctor6502
@witchdoctor6502 8 ай бұрын
when you will have longer rods with smaller diameter it will probably be good idea to make the cylinder larger so majority of the tungsten rod will already be inside. That way it will be less likely to bend or even if it explodes it will be mostly contained within the massive cylinder.
@Nefville
@Nefville 8 ай бұрын
It was cool to see you working with Jamie Hyneman. That and that 5 meganewton press at the uni was crazy.
@thefirstcalled
@thefirstcalled 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so very much for sharing your life!
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA 8 ай бұрын
There are sedimentary rocks. And sandstone is a sedimentary rock that is formed by a process that is called Cementation. Not by extreme pressure and heat. Where sand sediments have accumulated over a long period of time other minerals fill the gaps between the individual sand grains and cement it all together to what we call sandstone rock. There are Igneous rocks which are formed by crystallization (after it was melted), Rocks can also be formed by replacing carbon with minerals (for example petrified wood), And you have Metamorphic rocks, those once existed as igneous or sedimentary rocks, but have been subjected to varying degrees of pressure and heat within the Earth's crust. But it does require a lot of heat and pressure. In fault lines at the earths surface or close to the earths surface where we can watch them, and where there is no source of heat you can see that the immens pressure is turning the rock into a super fine powder. Over time it is slowly grinding it into a fine dust where the two different rocks slide against each other.
@robinbrowne5419
@robinbrowne5419 8 ай бұрын
I think you need to give it time to fuse. Anywhere from hours to years, depending on the chemistry of the rock particles. Increasing the temperature should speed up the process. If you double the temperature in degrees Kelvin then you should halve the reaction time. It's either that or one quarter the reaction time. Unless you cause a phase transition, such as melting some of the particles. Just a few ideas. Cheers :-)
@SaltpeterexitwounD
@SaltpeterexitwounD 8 ай бұрын
The wear and tear analogy was just perfect🤭
@fredrikfarkas
@fredrikfarkas 8 ай бұрын
You could make even more pressure with a lever, and possibly make extraction easier. And some soft cloth for the sample to fall onto. And maybe even magnets to prevent the rods falling onto the sample
@alifetomake
@alifetomake 8 ай бұрын
"That's probably like more than enough!" 😆
@mbunds
@mbunds 16 күн бұрын
These experiments show how intense the unimaginable pressure and heat beneath the surface of the earth must be to cause rock to flow and diamonds to form.
@AlienLivesMatter
@AlienLivesMatter 8 ай бұрын
Press a drill bit into billet of aluminium and see if it rotates as it cuts in. Pre drill 20mm to hold bit.
@hallowus7544
@hallowus7544 8 ай бұрын
Dang that’s awesome
@DerTeufelImDetail
@DerTeufelImDetail 8 ай бұрын
Well, at least the sand is dry now. Exciting again, educational again, funny again! ...and even without explosions... Greetz: you #1 fan!!
@HydraulicPressChannel
@HydraulicPressChannel 8 ай бұрын
Yes, there are days when things don't explode on this channel :D
@Luaksz
@Luaksz 8 ай бұрын
I don’t know if this is possible with a punch and die setup, but I feel heating the die and holding the rocks at pressure until the die cools would increase the cementation of the rocks.
@MrJamesBanana
@MrJamesBanana 8 ай бұрын
You should try this using coal and heating up the whole thing under pressure. Try to make a diamond.
@garmancathotmailcom
@garmancathotmailcom 8 ай бұрын
It takes a long time at sustained heat and pressure. This process is well known and synthetic diamonds are readily available.
@kiwikiwi-if4cz
@kiwikiwi-if4cz 8 ай бұрын
Use a thermal imaging camera so we can see the increase in temp for different subjects
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 6 ай бұрын
3:54 "I think it's getting looser when you like push things through"
@Dimension_eleven
@Dimension_eleven 8 ай бұрын
best content on youtube
@doomgolem5348
@doomgolem5348 8 ай бұрын
turning rock into rock. Genius.
@Neonblue84
@Neonblue84 8 ай бұрын
What's interesting to me is how hot does this pressed rock get under pressure? A temperature probe would be necessary. One that survives the immense pressure of the press. That would probably be the most difficult. Great Channal❤👍
@YN-im5qn
@YN-im5qn 8 ай бұрын
The rocks were eckstremely dangerous and needed to be dealt with.
@adriangaleron3293
@adriangaleron3293 8 ай бұрын
You can try pressing sand + PET from plastic bottles (shredded into little pieces). Maybe you could form a composite rock recycling some plastic in the proccess.
@youtube.commentator
@youtube.commentator 8 ай бұрын
2:59 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
@CATANOVA
@CATANOVA 8 ай бұрын
I love Finn English.😹
@jort93z
@jort93z 8 ай бұрын
For the ive VII you will need to keep it at high pressure and give it time to let it cool down and freeze. Also, i think something like copper or brass might be good for a seal.
@TentoesMe
@TentoesMe 8 ай бұрын
I think as soon as you release the pressure from ice 6 or 7 that it will turn back to liquid.
@joeclutchless1944
@joeclutchless1944 8 ай бұрын
You should use round carbide inserts top and bottom to insure maximum pressure is applied without the softer steel material locally deforming.
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE 8 ай бұрын
Off Topic: was watching a video with Jamie Hyneman and Pekka... and then Laurie showed up! So that was unexpected 😊
@brasil221
@brasil221 6 ай бұрын
"there's some wear and tear from pushing things out" - me after Taco Bell
@pablobartelotte4553
@pablobartelotte4553 2 ай бұрын
There is a company called Life Gems they make diamonds from the visra (from chest cavity) after partial cremation. The visra is fully charred, removed, and cooled. They then subject it to high pressure and temperature converting the carbon into diamond it is then faceted and mounted. My idea is to take charcoal and subject it to 300+ tons hopefully converting it to rock.
@SlowSpyder
@SlowSpyder 7 ай бұрын
You should use carbon fiber parts, I hear they stand up to pressure very well.
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 6 ай бұрын
Don't believe in all the ads :D
@steadfasttherenowned2460
@steadfasttherenowned2460 8 ай бұрын
It's so epic that you got to meet and work with jamie hyneman
@llwellyncuhfwarthen
@llwellyncuhfwarthen 8 ай бұрын
Ok, so you can understand, you would need to get the point of pressure, to be able to heat the rock/sand/whatever, to near 1200 C, rock made in the earth is usually around 600c to 3000c, depending on the composition and depth in the earth. Remember, metal is rock, now if you mixed tin or aluminum or zinc with the rocks, it might under your pressure form, reach enough temperature to liquidize and then cool/bond.
@lancegouvan1653
@lancegouvan1653 8 ай бұрын
You got to do the squeeze with with the garnet heat and pressure is how there made from Mica
@hondrta
@hondrta 8 ай бұрын
Welcome to the HYDROOLIK PRESS CHENNEL!
@Dudleymiddleton
@Dudleymiddleton 8 ай бұрын
Although the pressures you are creating are massive, they are paltry compared to what mother Earth can achieve! :)
@ChainsawFPV
@ChainsawFPV 8 ай бұрын
Bring the heat!!!
@jimmykreutz6087
@jimmykreutz6087 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got a new ol'lady..🧐🤗
@thefirstcalled
@thefirstcalled 8 ай бұрын
Use an induction heater and presto! Lol
@maksphoto78
@maksphoto78 8 ай бұрын
Perfect for the Sauna.
@ericericson4
@ericericson4 8 ай бұрын
I think you should try different mineral contents. It looks to me, that you are using a silica type. It may take more than pressure to cause this mineral to stick together. What catalysts might be added to help the process?
@southernmama9362
@southernmama9362 8 ай бұрын
"rock and stone brother" "Rock and stone forever" -Deep rock galactic
@treyflorek8592
@treyflorek8592 8 ай бұрын
Hmm very interesting
@nicodabastard
@nicodabastard 8 ай бұрын
You might need to keep it at pressure for a long time for the new crystal structures to form.
@bingus6195
@bingus6195 8 ай бұрын
Try squishing some liquid glass and keep it undrr pressure as it cools
@jamessever8936
@jamessever8936 8 ай бұрын
Try removing the bevel on the end of the rollers. That's letting stuff wedge its way between the roller and the hole.
@harleystenroos4917
@harleystenroos4917 8 ай бұрын
Try leaving the Rock compressed at max over night or more if u would like the longer the better
@Goldet_music
@Goldet_music 8 ай бұрын
And that is how gem fusion was inspired
@chrismorrison9990
@chrismorrison9990 7 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to use damp sand and leave it under pressure for a time, say overnight?
@ChrisMorton
@ChrisMorton 2 ай бұрын
Do some cold welding with different metals
@phonotical
@phonotical 7 ай бұрын
Were this in the vacuum of space, it might have worked 😂
@uncleal
@uncleal 8 ай бұрын
Sodium and potassium / chloride, bromide, and iodide will flow under hydraulic pressure. The heavier the atoms the easier the flow. Potassium bromide is a nice compromise (IR spectroscopy pellet).
@Lehnerd
@Lehnerd 8 ай бұрын
Rock and Stone brotha
@starjared12345
@starjared12345 8 ай бұрын
You should also try lava rock.
@Gin-toki
@Gin-toki 8 ай бұрын
Coal would be an obvious contender for this experiment, it needs around 850Kpsi to turn into diamond :P
@ericconnor8419
@ericconnor8419 8 ай бұрын
You need to heat them up, maybe 1000c+ we used crushed rocks and sand underneath buildings it does not fuse together from weight alone.
@derekbeech745
@derekbeech745 8 ай бұрын
If you try and make ice 7 I think you would need to let it cool down before you try and remove it from the tooling, in fact I'd cool it to about + 2 degrees above freezing, but NOT any colder so you can confirm you've made it 👍
@Kualinar
@Kualinar 8 ай бұрын
That tool is 1/10 the radius of the previous one. That mean 1/100 the surface, or 100 times the pressure. For that, you need tungsten tools.
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y 8 ай бұрын
"turn rocks into rock" xD
@Faesharlyn
@Faesharlyn 8 ай бұрын
Marble and limestone should do the thing, marble is practically a liquid
@FixingWithFriends
@FixingWithFriends 8 ай бұрын
Oh man, if you can take the Ice 7 out... That would be _super cool._ (Pun intended)
@ChristofferOrrmalmUtsi
@ChristofferOrrmalmUtsi 8 ай бұрын
Couldn't you try to use a different binder than only water? I think wet fructose is kinda adhesive like. Not the strongest per se, but strong enough to be challenging to clean.
@juhajuntunen7866
@juhajuntunen7866 8 ай бұрын
Rock and roll.
@slowrex
@slowrex 8 ай бұрын
Try paper turn into wood😅 Good video by the way😮😊
@youtubeSuckssNow
@youtubeSuckssNow 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, gonna need some heat to make this happen. No idea how youd pull it off but there's no other way. Also wouldnt a cone without a point facing down be a higher pressure?
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 8 ай бұрын
Cone would be same pressure as a rod with same final diameter . But less easy to contain .
@Les__Mack
@Les__Mack 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Can rocks be extruded into pelleted rock?
@infernaldaedra
@infernaldaedra 8 ай бұрын
Silicates maybe
@lancegouvan1653
@lancegouvan1653 8 ай бұрын
I got a bag of I could send you some of them and you compress them under high compression and get them to squash together because that's how they're formed
@cheekymonkey666
@cheekymonkey666 8 ай бұрын
what if you added cement and water and kept the pressure on the sample until it hardens, then compare it to a regular sample of concrete the same size and pressed them both, is a pressed sample better than a regular sample?
@edwardcarrington3531
@edwardcarrington3531 8 ай бұрын
No part of concretes strength is it’s slight compressibility
@cheekymonkey666
@cheekymonkey666 8 ай бұрын
@@edwardcarrington3531 your missing the point
@garmancathotmailcom
@garmancathotmailcom 8 ай бұрын
It would have no bubbles and therefore near zero strength. It would be like chalk.
@GaryLaser-Eyes
@GaryLaser-Eyes 8 ай бұрын
Many comments, but you could try softer rocks, like limestone powder or gypsum. They would crush easier
@confuseatronica
@confuseatronica 8 ай бұрын
im not really optimistic on this one- I mean you could make olivine if you could do about 100x the pressure and leave it for 5000 years or more. It's easy! You just need water! :P
@AdrianHiggins83
@AdrianHiggins83 8 ай бұрын
Press concrete power?
@homer5802
@homer5802 8 ай бұрын
What about using mud?
@gabriellen.2886
@gabriellen.2886 8 ай бұрын
Would have been so funny to see a diamond pop out. 🤣
@HowToGuroo
@HowToGuroo 8 ай бұрын
more heat!
@sirdaddy1000
@sirdaddy1000 8 ай бұрын
I think if you want to turn it into rock probably have to hold the pressure on with some heat at the same time for a little amount of time
@matthewjohnson6092
@matthewjohnson6092 8 ай бұрын
did you squeeze the water out of the wet sand at 5:36?
@mfduAudio
@mfduAudio 8 ай бұрын
How am i so fucking early especially since i just thought of this channel again after like 3 years
@FlorianXXV
@FlorianXXV 8 ай бұрын
I feel that
@mathewmue5547
@mathewmue5547 8 ай бұрын
Is it just me,or is that not the normal girl?
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