I think the big thing to note is that computer science is not software engineering. A bcs degree alone doesn't not always teach employable skills. It sucks but there is a lot of self learning that has to go on to be employable. I get a lot of LinkedIn messages from CS grads to review their resume, but it they generally lack real world project experience. My manager is even contemplating shutting down our intern program, because we can't seem to find interns with atleast some grasp on the basics, a lot of them just cheat in classes (which is easy to do in cs) or just lie on their resume. So the market is bad, but make sure you are also learning employable skills
@kyhines10604 ай бұрын
Great advice
@amesasw3 ай бұрын
A lot of grads first real project experience is an internship. You don't need to be good at building projects to be a good junior. You just need to like learning about software/code, fixing problems, and building things. I think a lot of people turn out to not like it enough to dive deep and understand systems well enough to give good solutions.
@davidaway7535 ай бұрын
I studied computer science at university and after graduation I was many years in unpaid forced labour in the military in forced poverty, but now I am okay. Unemployed, but okay.
@mehrdaddowlatabadi23194 ай бұрын
Bruh are you ok
@JustinK04 ай бұрын
my biggest mistake, thinking that having a programmer job would be a good idea because im very introverted.
@CodyPace-dr8vp3 ай бұрын
3.29 billion thumbs up on this one. Some of the best and most positive advice I’ve seen in a long time. Everyone is so negative about the market at the moment. Very refreshing to have some hope.
@leonardthiele3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! That was my goal.
@lukeeaton63616 ай бұрын
Really superb advice
@agha-mou6 ай бұрын
I honestly started losing hope, graduated with Bcs degree and applied to more than 400 jobs the last 4 months and I got around 7 interviews, reached to coding tests phase then i got some shady responses after that not really explaining why they took another candidate. I had a plan B since i graduated which was applying to a master degree in software engineering at Chalmers. I got in but honestly I am not that motivated since I am not finding a job right now. I don't know now if i should proceed with this path or should i start considering a new one. 🙃
@leonardthiele6 ай бұрын
That is frustrating just reading about it. I would say if you have more time, you could focus on building a network and finding opportunities in person (if you’re not already doing that). I hope you’ll find something soon.
@kuhlekt1v4 ай бұрын
It just takes a long time and you need to be persistent. You also need to find ways to relate other professional experiences to the role you are applying…even if not directly related 1:1. For example, I was able to use my background in shop floor manufacturing to develop software in manufacturing environments.
@philliptran-ee5nf4 ай бұрын
I would first of all like to say, this is some amazing information that you have shared. I would love to hear more about your experience and stories about the field for insight, as I am still a student.
@leonardthiele4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comment and feedback. I’ll definitely continue sharing!
@kotk054 ай бұрын
Thanks big Bro!
@leonardthiele4 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@MrTrollified4 ай бұрын
good vid
@weho_brian2 ай бұрын
dont get a software dev job, get an engineering job and make yourself much more useful than just coding
@powerHungryMOSFET4 ай бұрын
It will be very difficult in U.S. because in the U.S. people only aware of software development they do not know other engineering majors like Mechanical, eletrical, civil engineering etc. even exist. And moreover many foreigners enter country on H1B visa as software engineer for that reason it will be most difficult to get job in Software field. If Trump becomes president he can fix such issues
@thisislilia5 ай бұрын
It has nothing to do with the core of this video but just wanna say I love the wall color 🥹
@leonardthiele5 ай бұрын
I knew it! I’ll tell my friend who let me borrow her kitchen for this video 😉
@LamNguyen-hw9lq4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your advices! Where are you based btw?
@leonardthiele4 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. I’m based in Stockholm.
@codemind18224 ай бұрын
After trying for 3 years straight, I could not even get my first gig despite I applied to jr positions for the last 2 years. So I officially quit and looking for another roadmap outside of software. It was a total bummer and waste of time.
@martinlutherkingjr.55823 ай бұрын
Do you have a CS degree?
@codemind18223 ай бұрын
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 No, but I had solid coding skills and lotta projects like at least 5 websites and many small projects. I am a mechanical engineer and finding a job in this field is both hard and underpaid.
@codemind18223 ай бұрын
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 Not sure why my comment got deleted. I have 5 websites and many projects. No i don't have a cs degree but worked everyday for becoming a software dev. Though, i think the nascent AI breakthrough definitely made many jr positions obsolete. AI is already pretty descent about writing up snippets that are sound for many cases. websites like stackoverflow or any coding platforms will def go bankrupt which will lay off more people in tech field.
@codemind18223 ай бұрын
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 Not sure why my comment got deleted. I have 5 websites and many projects. No i don't have a cs degree but worked everyday for becoming a software dev. Though, i think the nascent AI breakthrough definitely made many jr positions obsolete. AI is already pretty descent about writing up snippets that are sound for many cases.
@codemind18223 ай бұрын
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 let me tell you, any field that is done in person will have the golden age such as car fixing, construction or anything related to health studies.