Can You Workout Again if You Have CFS? | CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME

[@cfsrecovery]

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[@SpillINNbetting]

Former top athlete who got knocked out by CFS six and a half years ago. Now I'm completely committed to brain training and getting myself recovered again.

[@TheUnknown-yx8zc]

July 16 2021 is when my life completely changed. I was supposed to compete in a Brazilian jiu-jitsu tournament the next day but woke up with some nausea and felt very fatigued. I had no idea what was wrong with me. I thought I just had a stomach bug. After a week I did recover but something wasn’t right. I felt off all the time. My eyes became sensitive to sunlight and as I continued to train in bjj I felt more and more fatigued. I began to lose energy to workout and I lost my muscle and became thinner. I couldn’t think properly and my head felt cloudy all the time as if I was hungover. This is known as brain fog and was my worst debilitating and frustrating symptom. I had to quit bjj in october 5th 2021 because I physically couldn’t do it anymore. I barely passed my classes last fall because my memory went to shit. I Started doing tons of research on what's wrong with me. I went to several doctors appointments and saw a neurologist as well as had several blood work tests done on me. My father, who is a very intelligent ER physician, did not know what was wrong with me. I found after hours of intensive research that I had chronic fatigue syndrome(aka post viral syndrome). I was devastated. There was no medical cure for cfs and my life was just getting worse. I was going downhill fast and I knew that if I didn’t fix my health, then I would be bed bound. At one point I was suicidal. But I knew that would be selfish as I have a mother, father and sister who love me very much and would be devastated if I killed myself. That's when I decided that no matter what I couldn’t give up and I wasn’t going to live like this either. I accepted the fact that no doctor was going to fix me and the only person that was going to save me was myself. That was my first I did hours and hours of research on how to improve my health. I cut out all artificial sugars from my diet. I mainly stuck to meat, veggies, and fruit. I read books such as Joe Dispenza “Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself” and watched his videos. Joe Dipenza was paralyzed from the waist down and learned the ability to walk again through meditation. I thought, if this man can recover from a spinal cord injury and use his mind to walk again, I could do the same to heal my body. I did hours of meditation as well as did a brain retraining program called the gupta program. I prayed to God. I also took supplements such as coq10. I blocked any negative influence on my life. I also did no fap/semen retention. As I got better I continued to increase my physical intensity when it came to working out. I started off as small as 50 pushups doing multiple physical exercises. My life began looking up again. I started being able to do more things. I gradually gained my memory back. I went back to school. I documented my progress on how I was doing each month. Today I am fully recovered. I am back to what I was before I got sick. I train multiple times a week in bjj. I am in great shape. I am finishing my last year of college. I just received my blue belt in bjj. To anyone out there who thinks it is impossible to recover from this, don’t give up. Your mind and heart are powerful tools. Use them. Don’t waste your life going to doctors and waiting for the medical system to find you a cure. I was fortunate enough to realize after the first three months of being ill that doctors weren’t going to save me. That realization is why I am here today writing this. If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything. Some sources/videos I used to recover are cfs recovery, health recovery, harry boby long covid recovery, and joe dispenza-all found on youtube. I also prayed to god asking him for advice and I also did the gupta brain retraining program.

[@tjerome4]

Can I talk to you in a private DM? Our stories are very similar. I would like to discuss the Gupta program. Please let me know I can connect. Thanks for sharing and thanks Miguel!

[@TheUnknown-yx8zc]

@@tjerome4 sure u want insta or Snapchat?

[@JOEY_TREN]

​@@TheUnknown-yx8zc I'd like to pm you as well bro. I'm 3 months into this illness as well. I used to play basketball and workout hours everyday. Now my heart rate is 100-115 laying down.

[@vijaydhalani9958]

Wow.. what an inspiration. Just wanted to know, did u have imbalance or dizziness as your symptom. Cause I got energy and I am able to do a lot of work. I don’t feel tired. But I got this imbalance which kinda bothers me big time. I got this symptom post covid.

[@TheUnknown-yx8zc]

@@vijaydhalani9958 maybe some imbalance but not dizziness. However I was cogintibely imparee

[@wyrdwitch13]

Excellent advice! I am nearly recovered after years of advanced me/cfs. Like you, I tried over & over again to resume my former exercise routine only to be struck down with PEM and crashes for many years before getting firmly into health recovery.This year I have successfully added in daily light exercise (qigong, easy yoga & short to moderate walks & housework) but really want to return to moderate daily exercise (running, power yoga, dancing, hiking & horseback riding). I also just went to two concerts this weekend! Recovery is possible, and I would like to run a half marathon next year to prove it to myself (I ran one before I got sick many years ago). Thanks so much Miguel, I really appreciate all of your help & advice!

[@MsJessyBee]

What helped in your recovery?

[@athinav.5995]

you give me hope.

[@JemmaAkers]

Gosh I could have wrote this myself. Also my goal is to do a half marathon..I had signed up for one and someone else had to take my place because I was at the onset of cfs

[@imshillgates]

What do you think helped your recovery most?

[@hugoingelhammar6163]

The mood swings you talked about in the end of the video is so true. I am in a period/process of accepting where I'm at and starting to really believe I can get healthy again. One day I feel total peace and belief in my capacity to heal if I just continue my good habits, while the next day the brain turns 180 and starts worrying again when a symptom pops up and dont feel immeadiate progress. Its so relieving to hear this is a natural part of the process.

[@cfsrecovery]

Yes it 100% part of a natural healing process and sometimes there's all the back and forth but it means you are making strides towards the right direction!

[@avamihalik7531]

Hi Miguel!!! It's Ava I washed the windows today 6 of them! And trimmed my rose bushes, walked the dog talked to a neighbor for ten minutes I don't even know, and loved every minute of it! Feel a little sore and a bit dizzy, WHO cares haha!!! Love my life and am so grateful! Love you too my friend! xxoo Ava

[@cfsrecovery]

That is awesome! 👏👏👏

[@Rutashealingroute]

As a former competitive runner and equestrian who has had POTS and CFS to varying degrees for 17 years , I must say this is the best exercise related cfs video on the internet. Excellent advice 👌

[@cfsrecovery]

Thank you Rita!

[@marycarmenortiz8053]

How could you differentiate POTS from CFS? I was diagnosed with POTS/ Disautonomia, but I really believe I actually have CFS.

[@beanoneya]

I'm definitely not type A, but I'm hyper. But I was always a reader, so I laid down a ton. I don't think it's that easy to generalize cfs.

[@cfsrecovery]

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[@jenniferfoster2200]

Yeah, grocery shopping is a workout for sure! I can't do that anymore but hope to one day! Finding your videos helpful, thank you so much.

[@cfsrecovery]

You are so welcome! You can do it!

[@SashaStowers]

Thank you for this. My doctors have been encouraging me to exercise, but I can barely clean the house without becoming breathless. I've been building my daily routine back up so I can eventually get back into rowing, which I used to do for at least an hour a day. Just taking things one day at a time.

[@cfsrecovery]

You're on the right track! 🌟 Building your routine gradually and taking it one day at a time is an excellent approach. Listen to your body, and with patience and persistence, you may get back to rowing and the activities you love. Keep up the good work! 💪😊🚣‍♀️

[@Lia_E9]

6:21 thats just unfair... Like... Im 13 and have chronic fatigue . My doc says i might have it sense 2 years old but i realised that i was way more overproductive last year than this . And one time i cried just cause i was able to do a simple task( i know how childish.) when others do tons of this. This year i see when i presure my self i wasn't able to walk one time so i didn't go to class etc. Which is unfair cause my friends and other look at me like im a lazy person. When im REALLY trying just to get the day over. Just started gym i hope they take it slow on me although i wanna built mascle etc its as he said slowly. But its still unfair. Cause while others will be able to do their tasks and get mascle on 1 month, i might need 3 . But i hope people get informed about CFS cause its really serious and when they keep pressing you...? Thats worsens you to the point you cant get out of bed. As he said we pressure ourselves as it is. Don't call us lazy or anything if you haven't been through what we have

[@tealkerberus748]

You are not lazy. You have a broken energy system. Would they call someone lazy for not walking if that person had a broken leg? If your family can manage it, I'd encourage you to look for a way to do school from home, so that you can concentrate on learning instead of having to walk from one class to the next and being too tired to think by the time you get there. Otherwise, you need your school to rethink your timetable so you never have to walk further than the room next door to get from one class to the next. It feels cruel and unfair for someone as young as you are to be dealing with something like this, but also: young people heal better than older people. If the adults around you give you the support and accommodation you need, you can get through this - and you have your whole life ahead of you. Stay proud.

[@PassionateFlower]

Ever since I started incorporating high quality grass fed grass finished beef, grass fed grass finished butter, pasture raised eggs, wild caught Alaskan salmon, free range chicken, and lowered my carb intake, I have been able to return to work after being unemployed and bedridden for years with cfs.

[@cfsrecovery]

Good for you 😁

[@lauratabacchini6324]

Hi! I’ve found that movement training has been super helpful to me, I would say it kept me alive especially the first years when even being one minute in a shop or on a road with many stimulus would cause me a crash. I strongly recommend the Qigong because it works with slow meditative movement and it’s based on movement of contraction and release which have a positive effect on our nervous system. What makes me crash almost immediately is any cardio activity, even only two minutes…any thing that accelerates my heart beats makes me feel completely exhausted

[@bui340]

If cfs is a nerveus system thing then doing yoga inspired whole body exercises the way to go. Having the feet/tows pointing in opposite direction is a good start and constantly modify the exercises is also necessary.

[@cfsrecovery]

How long have you been experiencing this?

[@bui340]

@@cfsrecovery I've been energizing myself like this for about 25 years now. You have an email I can send you my current nr 1 exercise?

[@fragdeinpferd]

Reasonable talk, wish you luck

[@cfsrecovery]

Thank you 🙂

[@JoeyVargas-dy2dn]

Wow man that is crazy you explained everything so well because that explains the illness that I must have got chronic fatigue syndrome in 2018 I was go go go go go I was an athlete pushing myself in the gym working hard and at work getting stressed out then all of a sudden I got sick last muscle and got very weak and I couldn't get out of bed for months after a year or two I finally got better after taking natural supplements and herbs it is possible to recover and I recovered a great deal and then I went and I was able to work out again and build a lean physique improve I haven't been able to have the same intensity before the illness but I'm still improving

[@vikkioriah]

This is sooooo validating THANK YOU!!!

[@cfsrecovery]

You're so Welcome ❤️

[@tealkerberus748]

I was never into sports and working out. But I did build my own house and establish a farm, grow food, manage livestock, milk a cow ... when you've hammered enough fenceposts into dry ground in the middle of summer you don't really need to exercise.

[@anneturid1632]

I am so glad I found your videos ! This knowledge is one of the missing link I belive, in my own present recovery Journey. I wish I knew this before!!

[@cfsrecovery]

I'm thrilled to hear that you've found value in my videos! It's wonderful to know that you can be able to incorporate this knowledge to your recovery journey. Sometimes, discovering missing pieces of information can make a significant difference in our healing process. I wish you the best as you continue on your path to wellness!

[@MeridianOne]

Right now im mostly bedbound, but watching this as im willing to try anything. Great video

[@cfsrecovery]

Glad it resonated with you 😊

[@rachaels6538]

So good!

[@cfsrecovery]

Thank you so much! 😊❤️

[@Clipxz299]

got mine from swine flu back in 2012 had it since then

[@cfsrecovery]

May I ask what symptoms you may be struggling with ATM?

[@Clipxz299]

@@cfsrecoverymainly all of them it’s a pain been to the doctors they don’t really help suffer with bad sleep patterns life’s just not fun with cfs

[@imshillgates]

you haven't gotten better at all?

[@rvbball1]

Thank you for this content

[@cfsrecovery]

You're so Welcome 🙌🏻

[@rvbball1]

@@cfsrecovery If I have SIBO and CFS, is it recommended to start pushing myself out of my comfort zone to force those adjustment periods? Or should I get rid of the the SIBO first?

[@RubberTag]

Wow, the first time I kinda search help for CFS. Have been sick for 7 months now. I also were athletic right before I went sick. Were preparing for a OCR and then I started to not be able to work, miss dead lines without even realizing it. I have felt so many times during this timr that I just want to scream and go out and run. Just run until I can't physically continue. The same with training, I felt so much urge to train and do something. But I always went worse when I tried to train too much, ran a few meters too much, trying to do push ups, it would end in me being sick or headache because I have pushed myself too much. But I have felt so many times that I do not want to try to contain myself anymore, that I just want to go full Uber Chad mode and just push myself. I guess because I miss it so much. I am sad many times because it feels like it doesn't get better. But it does, but the hard periods is so much harder and longer than they "should be"...

[@lukasreich255]

Just went to the gym for the first time today, since getting Me/cfs in august 2021 I was pretty much completely bed bound for 8 month and then slowly got better. I got back to university and slowly got back into life. Best advice for someone who gets this absolute fucker of an illness is to just chill and maybe go for a 20 min walk each day if you can manage. The main theory about me/cfs is that you get autoimmune antibodies against g protein coupled receptors. The result can be a overcompensation of transmitters which would explain the oversensitivity to light or the general irritated state of mind. If you stress yourself in that state the danger is a negative feedback loop in which those mechanisms go into overdrive and you can’t get better. Just try to absolutely chill (it was so hard for me because often I could not even watch series or read because I was to brainfogged to understand plots). If you can manage to chill however from my experience your immune system slowly calmes down and you get better. It is hard to be patient if you were a super active person before like I was, I know. But little by little you will be able to get your life back.

[@cfsrecovery]

Happy you are making such great progress and thanks for the great advice to the community!

[@TM-ch3hl]

Thanks man, I got sick 2 months ago and after a week the sickness went, but I have this debilitating fatigue that has stayed with me ever since, sometimes it gets slightly better, sometimes it gets much worse. I used to workout 4/5 times a week, visit friends, be outside and I have an active job in a busy hospital. I haven't been able to do any of that since and i'm now part time at my job and barely managing. That's some good advice you gave and I needed to hear/read something like that today.

[@setitheredcap2677]

Funnily, the more I rested, the more my health deteriorated.

[@cfsrecovery]

Yep, that's what happened to me too. A lot of people don't realize that even if you're physically resting, if your mind is running wild and you're worried and anxious, you're actually putting more stress on your body than if you were to just walk around

[@kala9907]

Rest is good in the earlier stages when the body and mind are completely exhausted. At some point, joyful movement is importan.

[@martinepeters9891]

It's a fine line between too much and doing too little

[@Darkbillhook]

I may have misunderstood, but to me this sounds a lot like graded exercise therapy by a different name - can you explain how it’s different please? I am trying to slowly increase what I can do but whenever I have an “adjustment period” I get told by medical professionals and my family that I have overdone it & I am not pacing well enough. A doctor told me that graded exercise therapy and positive thinking won’t fix my ME/CFS and fibro and to be wary of what I try etc

[@cfsrecovery]

Have a look at these videos to get a better understanding on how you can increase your activity the safest way possible: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4KzXouqZZqhjbs&pp=iAQB

[@TaneshaBeverly]

Thats me I was very very active I always worked full time in the medical filed and went to college at night. I have fibromyalgia and CFS its so sad how my body just never gets enough rest .

[@janetjones1456]

I have DYSAUTONOMIA...orthostatic hypotension..ibs..vestibular migraine...cfs..just had covid last winter and can't recover..I've deteriorated significantly these past 2 years..I live in my pajamas and lucky to shower daily..cannot do anything else but lay on the couch..have every symptoms of DYSAUTONOMIA....blurred vision..brain fog..ANXIETY DISORDER..aches pains balance issues..dizzy all the time which makes walking and trying to start any type of exercise impossible. I am the person you speak of...physically active my sector life..exercise EVERYDAY...all day...I dont Rembert her. Haven't driven my car in almost 5 years. Dysautonomia sucked the life from me almost forgot..I have MCAS...I'm drowning 😢😢😢

[@avamihalik7531]

Quoting Miguel " If I could get a little bit better I knew I could get a little I could get a lot better" taking that with me to bed tonight!

[@cfsrecovery]

Amazing. Good for you! 😊

[@Jdjdjjdjd-w2s]

I wonder your dosage of sertaline Did help you?

[@cfsrecovery]

It definitely helped me especially in the beginning when I was extremely sick and couldn't sit up out of bed

[@Jdjdjjdjd-w2s]

@@cfsrecovery how many mg sertaline did you take?

[@dansmith9724]

Just my experience. We have 3 major energy systems, phosphate system 10 seconds long, lactate 2 mins and aerobic system greater than 2 moniutes. I think with cfs theres too much overlap with the lactate and aerobic systems that is easy to overtrain and have a crash. The phosphate system i found i could exercise in this range. Id do weights and keep them in the 1-3rep range and slowly increase the wt over time. Still would need a week off every few weeks or so. At 50yo i was able to get my strength back and beat it from when i was 30yo ut aerobic fitness no chance even with gradual increments. So i believe there is something wrong with our cardiovascular fitness and adaptation but phosphate/strength system we can improve if we are careful. I will say that one needs to be at atleast an 8 out of 10 or higher in functioning to benefit from exercise, otherwise aggressive rest is need. I dont understand why but thats my experience with cfs and what ive seen with other cfsers.

[@mw7851]

What level of intensity did you do the 1-3 reps with?

[@Heath.w-b9x]

I have cfs now i got it when i was 12 and it is still going and im just trying to be happy with this condition luckly i dont have it as bad as other cases but it is still enough to restrict me and i just wanted to know how to loss weight and get stronger again

[@techsavytronicstechsavytro528]

Any tips with rumination witg CFS?

[@Saijai143]

Could this also help with fibromyalgia?

[@cfsrecovery]

Yes! Please watch this and hopefully it helps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIjZpIamg9adoLssi=q6L_v6YcHSOusa0G

[@JOEY_TREN]

I was playing basketball almost everyday anywhere from 2-6 hours to having a heart rate laying down of 100-115 😂 it used to be hard for me to get heart rate over 100.

[@vijaydhalani9958]

Hi Miguel. As usual amazing content. Just need some assistance. Had covid in 2021 april. Post covid had massive symptoms. Felling way better now. Going to work, getting out etc. but I still got this issue of imbalance. It’s like I still don’t feel completely balanced especially when I am still or when I close my eyes. Also I get this head pressure sometimes. Not a headache but pressure. I thought it could be pots initially but my heart rate is always under control. There is this condition called PPPD which is very similar to my symptoms. It also arises from a very sensitive nervous system. There are many contents about it out there and loads of them talk about retraining the brain using neuroplasticity. It’s apparently because the brain still perceived danger and hence the volume dial on the symptoms are increased. Any idea about this or any advice? Thanks

[@Zeepjeliefs]

I have pppd diagnosis too! I'm late to your comment but the steady coach channel may be of help ❤️

[@KJWaymont_watt]

I was working 2 jobs as a school cleaner and a housekeeper. I had influenza and was unable to recover from it. Now I can't walk down the street without without a walking stick.

[@cfsrecovery]

Sorry to know about this. How long have you been in this state?

[@imshillgates]

I got CFS 10 years ago. I didn't know it had a name, or what the "rules" were. I was not type A. I still don't know what caused it. Possibly EBV or lyme. It took me about 6 years to finally become barely functional again. I could drive and go to stores and do an occasional vacation Then I got covid....and I got covid again....and I got covid again And now I can literally barely move or think. I can't even ride in cars. I crash from the most basic things. My brain and nervous system are so severely compromised and have been for the last 2 years and it's not letting up. I've tried ignoring it, I've tried getting routines and doing all the healthy shit I can, I've tried all the supplements and medicines and nothing works. I can barely even make it to the bathroom. I can barely walk due to the fatigue and balance issues. My brain fog and DPDR is so thick I don't even know where I am half the time and my memory is nonexistent, I'll forget what I'm doing as I'm doing it. The nerve pain and vibrations are off the charts and I have extreme muscle tension and a whole host of other horrible neuro symptoms that I can't really even put into words. Oh, and I've also completely lost my personality, the ability to feel, or connect with things. I've lost all the memories i used to have, all the beliefs, everything. I'm just a blank slate, empty and numb. I really don't know what to do. I'm so desperate to get even 50% better. I feel like I've tried everything. I want to try nervous system retraining but I dont know how and my brain is so fried it's hard for me to focus or learn anything. I need srious help.

[@Coliekokker]

Is it better to do short walks everyday or one long walk a week?

[@ChewyLoo]

Based off my personal experience and the info shared from Miguel and others, it would be safer to walk a little every day so you can gauge your limits, oppose to overdoing it on the long walk and spending the following week in a crash. Find your comfortable minimum everyday (if you feel some mild symptoms, that's okay) then keep going until it's an easy part of your routine and resist the urge to keep pushing the limits every new day (a mistake I repeadedly made... learned the hard way!). Walk your comfort zone for at least a week and assess. If noticeably suffering then reduce until it feels right (and don't panic). If all good then extend a small amount and repeat. Stay patient; marathon not a sprint etc. Best of luck!

[@cfsrecovery]

The Best Way to Increase Activity kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2erdmuNqa5lkJY

[@danijeanes5078]

Everyday.

[@athinav.5995]

🙏@@ChewyLoo

[@zackvillars7009]

Can you sustain your max heart rate now without symptoms?

[@cfsrecovery]

Yes

[@wzupppp]

Is it still possible to build muscle with cfs? Because it feels like my muscles are not responding to exercise

[@cfsrecovery]

Yes, it is possible with the right exercise.

[@alenkaaknela2793]

💗

[@cfsrecovery]

😊❤️

[@msAfreca9]

Yes. I have Adhd and couldnt sit down . Hyper as heck. Now im anemic and feel sooo sluggish and anemia is on my tail24 7

[@cfsrecovery]

Great to know you were able to workout again. 🙂

[@tiffany8154]

The thing is I’m not scared of the symtoms so I don’t over react to them so how else can I try to heal

[@cfsrecovery]

Thats the way to go! Keep it up 👊🏻

[@mattiaorlando8693]

HI, can you recover even if you were born with it?

[@cfsrecovery]

How do you mean exactly Mattia?

[@Ful-OGold]

I’m sorry but I have to disagree with you, active people are not the only ones who get chronic fatigue. My dad has it and I inherited it and from a teenager who wasn’t super active I would suffer from no energy and not doing much physical work meanwhile all my friends could go out all night and not feel a thing the next day.

[@cfsrecovery]

I said a lot of people who get this are active, not all people.

[@YasN82]

@@cfsrecoveryat the start of the video you do say it’s only type A that get cfs who are extremely active and it won’t be someone who can chill and watch Netflix. Which is wrong info, plenty get cfs who are not highly physically active. It’s how we are programmed to think that causes cfs. So even with the person who watches tv, subconsciously they will feel that they should be productive and it is wrong to relax because they believe their value is in productivity

[@j.goebbels2134]

I followed very clean diet and healthy exercise for years. About 3 months ago I binge ate some potato chips. But not just some. Like 3/4 of a big bag. It had been years since I ate potato chips and they were yummy and I just went overboard. Felt like crap, like I needed to throw up, but I didn't. But oh well, I'll get over it.... Then next day, felt a little better. But the day after I bought peanut butter, which I never buy. And I binge ate that. Like 40 oz jar I killed in a few days. Then I felt bloated and tired and confused for a few days. Then, and now, I feel fatigue all the time, even after I wake up from long sleep. It has been more than 3 months now and I wonder if this is what people talk about feeling when they have CFS or depression. They always describe feelings that never made sense to me. It has gotten better. In the beginning I found it impossible to stay away, would fall asleep during work or anywhere. I can work -- I am a screenwriter and editor, and I need to stay sharp all the time. Now I don't really nod off a lot. But I still feel tried, like too tired. I can go for long walks, which I love, and do yoga. But everything seems like too much work and my arms feel full of concrete and void of motivation. Also under my jaw is sore, which seems like lymph nodes, but I can't feel any swollen nodes, it is just tender. This may be unrelated. Anyway... what is happening.

[@annasvensson2123]

Hello Miguel! How did you come to the conclusion that CFS happens mostly to physically active people? I have heard that claim before and it's true in my case. But some people are opposed to that idea and call it "victim blaiming". I think it's important to make people aware that being extremely active can lead to CFS, just like overeating can lead to obesety. If you have any study to back up your claim or just an explanation of why you believe there is a link between CFS and an overly active lifestyle, I'd much appreciate if you would like to share it. Thank you, your videos are helpful!

[@ZeatherMusic]

I would like to know this too. It is very true for me and many people I have met with CFS. We were all FIT people.

[@puppyteacow2748]

My biggest question, why do you have somatic symptoms tagged on this video? Somatic symptom disorder is something completely different, MECFS is not a psychological condition it's already been proven. Seems like you're just targeting people

[@cfsrecovery]

Because it can be classified as somatic symptoms.

[@jasond626]

So how we fix it? You have interesting videos but you never really give the answers and how to do it, just to link to a paid product that a lot can't afford as they can't work due to health. Shame man

[@cfsrecovery]

Take the masterclass

[@dianafields6475]

It costs to find out how.

[@jasond626]

@@dianafields6475 pointless advertising video wasting people's time and hopes

[@raheem2845]

A KZbinr corpse has this , but doesn't know has 7ml subs. A collab would be great !

[@cfsrecovery]

Which channel is it!

[@MPStigs]

@@cfsrecovery Corpse Husband is the channel name :)

[@raheem2845]

@@cfsrecovery It's corpse husband Oh and try contacting other health tubers , e,g dr eric berg , Andrew huberman and share the info around Anyway I have more info like this if you are interested, just ask