Canadian Cities Are SMALLER Than You Think!

[@BeaverGeography]

If I get any comments about saying Hilton Head Island wrong ill be livid

[@Ilikefire2793]

They may say bigger is better, but most Canadians would simply say, nah we good.

[@loganpeters7543]

I live right outside of HHI (in Bluffton) and I personally love your approach to Beaufort County.

[@loganpeters7543]

But also, lol.

[@RealGJZig]

Well, since you mentioned it.... It's Head Holiday Inn 😂 That's all the grief you'll get from me on that, but I will ask "Bu8ffalo?"

[@mw...]

give 'em hell, Beaverita

[@michaelbarone7031]

Big factor to perceived size vs reality is density! All Canadian cities, but especially the larger ones, are pound for pound much denser than us ones. They all feel very big as a result.

[@jamescoulson7729]

Another way to visualize this is transit ridership in Canadian cities compared to American cities as Canadian cities even smaller ones like Victoria or sprawling ones like Edmonton have greater per capita transit ridership then almost all American cities even greater then Philadelphia or Seattle, or how cities like Calgary, Ottawa, Vancouver, Montreal or Toronto all have greater public transit ridership per capita than all cities in the USA besides New York, even beating out cities like DC, San Fran, Boston, or Chicago.

[@TheTroyc1982]

@@Anahi1991 that's because Montreal is huge and dense and this video doesn't take into consideration the much different definition of metro area. basicly American Metros would need to shrink the surface area by 67% to be compared to Canadian metros

[@chrism3784]

and that is odd seeing how much space canada has, why so dense, canada is huge!

[@UrbanRail]

@@chrism3784 because most of Canada north of the population is a vast forest and permafrost is beyond that. It snows a lot in most of Canada and its only good to farm at certain latitude.

[@matthewhemmings4712]

@@chrism3784 In Canada, cities will usually spend 12 to 15 % of their budget for snow removal and salt for roads and sidewalks. This means that cities take much more consideration on reducing the total road surface than American cities. Winter is also an issue for private owners, as they have to remove snow and would rather build closer to the road and limit their footprint. This includes businesses. Canada also has ALOT of water. Don’t expect vast empty fields, but lakes, marches and wetlands. Which makes water management and flood protection a major issue in most regions. So the answer is geography and climate.

[@davidburrow5895]

What always gets me when I visit Canada is what an incredibly urban country it is. There's lots of empty space between the cities, but pretty much everyone in Canada lives in cities. Those cities are bustling, too. Even the smallest cities (like St. John's with 200,000 in its metro area or Yellowknife, which has just 20,000 people) seem much bigger than they are. I'll also mention that while Kitchener, Hamilton, and Toronto are technically separate metro areas, they (and also places like St. Catherine's, Niagara Falls, Brantford, Guelph, and Peterborough) are really part of the same "Golden Horseshoe" megalopolis. It's like counting Miami and Ft. Lauderdale as entirely separate places.

[@paulmyles5101]

Kitchener, Guelph and Brantford are all protected from joining the greater horseshoe by Ontario's Green Belt.

[@blxvkpxndx]

❤ this comment made me happy, you totally get it.

[@sonicnator]

I honestly thought that they were all part of the same, massive metro area (or megalopolis). Surprised that they are not always viewed as such!

[@ravBuffalo]

The Buffalo-Toronto corridor is probably the 2nd densest region in Canada, after the 401 corridor

[@plumebrise4801]

In 2021 ,81.65% of the Canadian were Urban ,now imagine the Belgian ,they are at 98.12% Then we reverse those data so 18.35% of the Canadian are non-urban while it's 1.88% for the Belgian 1.88 x 9.76 = ~18.35 In percentage ,almost Ten time more Canadian are rural than Belgian. Belgium is the 2nd most urbanized country (That are not City-States) behind Qatar (99.28%) and right above Uruguay (95.6%) In Fact the US is more urban than Canada (with 82.87%) 92.46% of the Belgian population was already urban in 1960 while Canada was at 69.06% and the US at 70% ,Qatar was at 85.28% ,Uruguay at 80.24% The least urbanized country is Papua New Guinea with 13.46% (3.72% in the 1960) Least urbanized country in 1960 was Burundi with 2.08% Funnily enough ,Liechenstein went from 20% in 1960 to 14% now

[@jamesorlando8178]

I’ve thought about this quite a bit as a longtime NYC resident who lives BC and visits Vancouver quite often. I’m well aware it’s much smaller than NYC, but it still feels very much like a “major city” on a higher tier than say, Portland

[@ncpanthers24]

@knucklehead d I love Philly's skyline, but this is a wild take

[@Anahi1991]

Agreed. I was surprised myself it looks bigger because of the density. But it’s actually very tiny. I like both nyc and Vancouver.

[@blxvkpxndx]

Population and a city’s importance shouldn’t be compared Vancouver is a major city in that region.

[@DDBurnett1]

Vancouver is a bit smaller than Portland, but it probably feels larger because it's Canada's primary west coast port and it has a larger downtown. It's usually compared to Seattle because they're both major saltwater ports (unlike Portland) and are the economic hubs or their respective regions.

[@jasonreed7522]

I think part of it is the weirdness of trying to combine the hard legal limits of a city with our intuitive sense of what is part if a city when calculating population. City limits can be very unhelpful like how Yonkers is a separate city from NYC despite their being no physical distinction between them. (Atleast from a satellite view) or they can include a large green belt and a random township 10miles away from the city for no reason. (Thus under and over counting population respectively) and Metro Areas are defined at the county level which is also prone to over counting when considering just how big US and Canadian counties can be. But the 2 things that make a city feel like a city are population and density, and many american cities lack density compared to Canadian ones. (Although NYC sets the bar on both fronts to the point many regional cities like Syracuse NY and Burlington VT seem unworthy of the title in comparison)

[@theconnaisseur]

Biggest difference is that most major Canadian cities populations are actually within the city with only small populations outside of the limits but considered in the metro area. Where in the US, it’s very common for a cities metro to be 10x the actual size of the city itself

[@davidreichert9392]

That's a very important point, the definition of Metropolitan Area is different in the US and Canada. For example the Golden Horseshoe in southern Ontario has a population of about 8 million. By the American standards, this would be a single metropolitan area, making it the 5th largest metropolitan area in North America (behind the metro areas centered on Mexico City, New York, Los Angeles and Chicago). However by the Canadian standard, there are actually four metropolitan areas contained within the golden horseshoe: Toronto, Hamilton, Oshawa and St.Catherines-Niagara. So Greater Toronto with about 6 million then becomes the 7th largest in North America (Dallas and Houston metro areas being slightly larger)

[@dzello]

@@davidreichert9392 What he's saying has nothing to do with definitions, Canadian cities are just denser than American ones. In the US, a city of 2m could be surrounded by 8m people whereas in Canada, a city of 2m would be surrounded by 2m people. This means the US city would have 20% of its population in the city whereas the Canadian city would have 50% of its population in the city.

[@redbrixanimations]

Yeah my California city is 500,000 but metro is 2.5 million

[@dzello]

@@kaymillerfromTX First, Montreal is bigger than Vancouver for both its population and that of its metropolitan area so you're wrong about that. Toronto yes, Vancouver no. Second, it has to do with density, it's just not obvious because of the variation in definitions but it is if you know what the cities look like in both countries. In Canada, cities had less urban sprawl. The dense part of Montreal is 2m (1.7m the city, 0.3m some other cities on the island). The sprawled part is another 2m. Even if you played around the definition of metropolitan area, you could not go higher than 4m because there's nothing outside of that area. The city with the most sprawl is Toronto where the line starts to blur, but the other cities are extremely well defined. In the United States, cities had a lot of urban sprawl. A city with a dense part of 2m will have a huge suburb that's bigger than 2m. Sometimes they consider the entire metropolitan area as one city (San Antonio is a bit like that), sometimes they split the inner city and the suburbs. Sometimes they do something in the middle. This leads to very blurred metropolitan areas. Canadian cities just don't have as much suburbs, they are more dense. This leads to a clear cut in what's the inner city (dense portion) and what's the outer city (spread portion). Even if Canada played around the definition of metropolitan area and extended to other cities around... There's none. Inner Montreal is 2m, outer Montreal is 2m and there's barely population outside of this until you reach another metropolitan area 1h away. As the original guy: '' Biggest difference is that most major Canadian cities populations are actually within the city with only small populations outside of the limits but considered in the metro area. Where in the US, it’s very common for a cities metro to be 10x the actual size of the city itself. '' That's because Canadian metropolitan area have the dense part, a suburb of similar size and then nothing else around. American cities have the dense part and suburbs that sprawl immensely and mix with other cities around that blur what's the metropolitan area and what's not.

[@kaymillerfromTX]

@@dzello I’m not reading all that. You already put words in my mouth when I was talking population not size. Go back to twitter with all that whining. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@marcuskobernick7869]

Vancouver has recently surpassed Portland, San Antonio and Orlando in Metro population, he was probably using older censuses.

[@SilentZyko]

Vancouver has been bigger then all those cities for quite some time its just that Vancouver dosent count the fraser valley protion towards there population even though chilliwack and abbotsford-mission are suburbs of it and that he is using older census saying that vancouver is still have 2.6m when today is is 3.1m. If you add the fraser valley pops to the newer number your get 3.4-3.5m which is bigger then a large portion of american cities.

[@carstarsarstenstesenn]

Toronto's skyline is expected to grow a lot in coming years. There are more skyscrapers and high rises being constructed there than anywhere else in North America

[@SHFMIA]

as is Miami

[@johnchastain7890]

Meanwhile, Vancouver is sprouting beaucoup des OBITS (overpriced boxes in the sky), i.e., condominium towers for wealthy Asians seeking a pied-a-terre in North America.

[@TheTroyc1982]

@@SHFMIA Toronto has over 10x the construction of Miami and already has a much larger skyline buildings over 100m (completed and under construction) Toronto: 421 (103 under construction) Miami: 145 (8 under construction)

[@SHFMIA]

@@TheTroyc1982 remember that we are talking about Metro Miami. You should include: Miami Beach, Coral Gables, West Palm beach and etc

[@chrism3784]

@@TheTroyc1982 there is no more land in miami to construct on, unless they want to destroy the protected land of the everglades. also not as many people are wanting to move to miami these days as opposed to cities just north like ft lauderdale and west palm beach

[@zeroone8800]

If Canada has about 1/10 the population of the US, it should have 1/10 of the number of comparable cities. So, Toronto should be a top ten US city, Montreal a top 20, Vancouver to 30, etc. Canada does a petty good job at keeping this relationship.

[@CNSPORTZEDITZ]

Toronto is actually bigger than Chicago in terms of city proper

[@marcbuisson2463]

I mean american cities are technically pretty bad overall.

[@chefssaltybawlz]

@@CNSPORTZEDITZ I think it’s tied. 2.79 in Toronto 2021 and 2.74 in Chicago in 2020. But Toronto is growing compared to Chicago lol

[@Cyprian4SIN]

@@CNSPORTZEDITZ and the Greater Golden Horseshoe has a larger population than Chicagoland

[@appa609]

@@Cyprian4SIN Southern Ontario is the only part of Canada with American style sprawl

[@lik7953]

Toronto has more skyscrapers than any in North America outside NYC and Chicago. I wouldn’t call that a small skyline

[@soutcity]

This feels like a “bash Canada” piece

[@bazookagaming1129]

and the tallest

[@Droxal]

Yeah, the comparison he made to Miami seemed odd. From the lakefront the skyline may seem small, but it's fairly spread out and huge compared to most cities

[@concertvids34]

I was gunna say that. I have been to Chicago, New York, and Miami in the last 8 months and Miami has the 3rd largest skyline in the country. Therefore, Toronto like you said would have the 3rd largest skyline in the country if it was part of the United States of America.

[@gordonalsop8537]

There’s no doubt that the population of Canada is smaller than the US and therefore has less large cities. However when looking at Ontario’s Golden Horseshoe region which includes Toronto/Hamilton/Niagara/Oshawa, one must conclude that this is a highly populated conurbation. Sometimes the definition of this region includes Kitchener/Waterloo (slightly over an hour’s drive to downtown Toronto in light traffic) and the total population of this region is about 9.8M. Because it is at the centre of this region, Toronto seems larger than the 5.9M quoted for its immediate metro area.

[@sporeranier]

Still, even if you count all of those areas, it’s still slightly smaller than metro Chicago, if you include it’s towns along the lake. Probably not for long though.

[@johnchastain7890]

Lotta people think my hometown (Washington DC) is a small town--until they visit. Then they discover that the District of Columbia (~700k) is part of a metropolitan sprawl of 9 million (Baltimore-Washington).

[@CnekYT]

same argument can be made about Vancouver with Abbotsford and Chilliwack only 30 minutes East which would add on like 300k people and even the same for Nanaimo directly across the straight from Vancouver which would add on an additional 100k

[@darthwiizius]

@@johnchastain7890 Most of England is like this mate especially in the south, 10% smaller by geography than NY State with 3 times the population. I live 40ish miles north of the geographical centre of London (just on the edge of Leicester Square BTW) and between my town and the edge of Greater London I have several other towns, it's like that if you travel in any direction away from my town, you can't go more than 2 or 3 miles without getting to another town or settlement in most of the south. My town has a zero metre gap between itself and 2 other towns and a 2 mile gap to a town twice the size with another half the size 1 mile in the opposite direction with another 1 mile away from it next to it and 2 miles away from mine with a village in between it and one of the towns mine touches which itself has zero gap to.

[@johnchastain7890]

@@darthwiizius My sister lives in the jam-packed part of New Jersey between New York City and Philadelphia, and she says it's like England: another town each time you blink.

[@dennisud]

I visited Canada as a teen, Toronto, Montreal and Quebec City. They were all so clean, and Quebec City reminded me of a European town with their narrow Streets and Ambiance! And we visited Montreal a year after the Summer Olympics and they still had a lot of exhibits from the 1967 Worlds Fair as well as repurposed Buildings that were used for the Olympics!

[@anthonysaunders345]

I was thinking that the information here was bizarrely skewed until I realized your using Canadian statistics for Canadian cities and American statistics for American ones. The criteria for what constitutes an urban core in the U.S. is clearly defined as 1000 people per square mile or more, and contiguous areas attached to it of 500 ppsm. In Canada it is much the same except that area is contigous until it reaches a political border between urban areas, at which point the area over the line is considered a new urban zone. For example, by the American definition of Census Metropolitan Area would make Toronto, Hamilton, Mississauga, Vaughn, Markham, Richmond Hill, Pickering, Ajax and Brampton all one city, dwarfing all American cities except Los Angeles and New York. As a matter of fact, most geographers accept that Toronto is the third biggest city in North America (excluding Mexico) after those two anyway, bigger now than even Chicago's and Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington's metropolitan statistical areas. At any rate, there is no classification for Metro Toronto because Canada doesn't have a definition for one. Also, if one uses the same criteria for Canada as the U.S., Vancouver is larger than Seattle, and much larger than Portland. So if one uses the same criteria for for both countries--comparing apples to apples as it were--then most of the examples you have given don't hold up. I learned many years ago in high school stats class that statistics is a very complicated field, and often what it appears to be saying is not always so in reality.

[@protobazz2]

This ^

[@isaacobrien4268]

this

[@sacvideo1998]

On the flip side, the Toronto suburb of Mississauga has a population of more than 870,000 people, making it bigger than San Francisco or Seattle. Brampton, another Toronto suburb has over 660,000, bigger than Boston or Las Vegas and closing in on Washington, D.C. But how many people outside of Canada have even heard of those cities?

[@spencergraham-thille9896]

That kind of reminds me of Fort Worth.

[@billy2182]

If you follow hockey in the Detroit-Windsor area you've heard of those towns from their minor league teams.

[@appa609]

Don't tell the Mississaugans they're a suburb of Toronto ;)

[@sm3675]

Yup. That's why I prefer treating Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan as their own municipalities not included in Toronto's metro pop.

[@CoasterCrest]

The Toronto area has a bunch of downtowns scattered across the area, which is what makes its skyline *really* impressive. When I went to Canada's Wonderland in Vaughan this year (my first time ever in Canada), I was absolutely amazed at how I could see clusters of skyscrapers in almost every direction while on the roller coasters there. And the construction is constant, These urban cores are full of construction cranes working on the next high rise apartments, hotels, and offices.

[@CoasterDave]

is that the voyage or ravine flyer ii

[@CoasterCrest]

@@CoasterDave haha good eye. It's The Voyage. It's my favorite coaster :)

[@linuxman7777]

Usually multiple downtowns makes for a poor skyline, see Tokyo or Atlanta, while a monolithic downtown makes a great skyline

[@CoasterCrest]

@@linuxman7777 yeah, visually, you're definitely right. I just mean that if you look beyond just downtown Toronto, it's amazing to see how far out that high rise developments stretch, and it truly shows you why/how it's a metropolis of 6+ million people.

[@1982kinger]

Yeah north York has its own skyline which confuses outsiders

[@louiszhang3050]

Halifax was surprising. For a city of under 500k, it has a remarkable downtown, lots of things to do, and a decent public transit system (for North America). I didn't expect that at all and it felt more substantial of a city than some American cities with twice its population! As a former Canadian I don't think it's an insult! It's a compliment that generally Canadian cities offer more amenities and punch above their weight compared to American cities.

[@liammacdonald1515]

The crazy thing is that that picture of Halifax is from 2015. The city is going through a high-rise boom and has a much more impressive skyline now.

[@Econunlocked]

Another thing he failed to say if Halifax has a higher urban population then Miami

[@evan316]

​@@Econunlocked us cities have tiny urban populations and hige metro areas, its honestly kind of hard to compare them to canadian cities alot of the time

[@ALuimes]

@@evan316 New York has a huge urban population.

[@ianshand3739]

Halifax, Nova Scotia is the absolute underdog of North American urban areas. Halifax is booming for the first time since 1917!

[@neontv2843]

to be fair it is somewhat misleading when you consider that american cities tend to be much more sprawling in terms of suburbs, making the city proper of the american cities much smaller than the canadian equivalent (there are exceptions but for the most part)

[@nicholasjamesbourne]

This. Sure the metro regions of Sacramento and Vancouver are similar in population, but they are drastically different in land area. Greater Sacramento is 55,501.37 km2 (21,429.2 sq mi) vs Greater Vancouver at 2,882.68 km2 (1,113.01 sq mi). Drastically different sizes.

[@cityskylines11]

Yea that's what I was thinking about the whole time. You can't compare US cities with Canadian cities like this guy did. For one, like you said, US cities are much more spread out and people live more in the suburbs than downtowns, and also our brothers to the north tend to build more urban, economical, dense cities where everything revolves around the central downtowns. People here left the cities because of crime back in the day and they just started moving back into them and now we are seeing crime surging out of control again. In Canada they never had the 'white flight' like we did here. Plus the size of the land area counted for metro areas in the US and Canada are way different. Canada only counts a small geographic area and the US has crazy big areas that sometimes grow into eachother because they are so large. An MSA in the US can be ridiculous sometimes for certain cities. Basically this video was not well researched.

[@alaskanbullworm5500]

@@cityskylines11 I just think he’s using urban population because it’s usually the best indicator for how truly large a human settlement is rather than just the city proper(it’s wierd to think paris only has 2M even though it legally does, for instance). The only thing that beaver should have done is mention the disparity that tends to exist in American cities between city propers and urban areas, to explain why American urban areas seem to look smaller than their equally populated, canadian counterparts in terms of high rises/infrastructure etc.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

Edmonton, Alberta, however, is the most northerly city in North America having a metro population in excess of one million.

[@westjkl9064]

Canada and the US use different criteria when calculating the area/population of their metro areas so these comparisons are apples to oranges. A more accurate calculation would need to actually look deeper at thing like land area etc.

[@seanthe100]

The US actually has a different metric that's called urban area

[@danielnascimento6300]

Density does make cities seem larger, particularly Vancouver

[@TheTroyc1982]

well it's also that the US uses a much looser definition of metro area: for example these are the surface areas for comparable metro areas in the video Vancouver: 2,878 km2 San Antonio: 19,130 km2 Portland: 17,310 km2 Orlando: 10,390 km2 you will get the same thing for any Canadian city compared to US city, if you shrink those US cities surface areas to Vancouver those US cities would be around 1 million people

[@Taladar2003]

I would say "Density makes cities" which makes a lot of the extreme sprawl in the US something other countries would not call a city.

[@doomjazz420]

Canada cities tend to be more dense and have wilderness closer to them.

[@danielsavitz5774]

I wonder if some of the misconceptions are due to the Canadian cities being more centralized than a lot of the comparable metro areas in the U.S., which naturally give the Canadian cities more prominent skylines

[@jamescoulson7729]

Canada never really suburbanized in the same way they did in the usa, where Canadian suburbs are quite dense in comparison and there tend to be less of them and all of it’s downtown areas stayed relatively healthy even throughout the 70s 80s and 90s so while many us cities hollowed out the downtowns in the second half of the 20th century Canadas downtown’s continued to grow.

[@trainsandmore2319]

​@@jamescoulson7729 Nah every suburban part of the sprawling Canadian cities except Montreal is filled to the brim with car-centric single-family homes. Because it is still illegal until now to build dense housing projects in most urban neighborhoods like its southern neighbor.

[@TheTroyc1982]

no, it's based on US cities using much larger surface areas for their metros: surface areas of metros for example Vancouver: 2,878 km2 San Antonio: 19,130 km2 Portland: 17,310 km2 Orlando: 10,390 km2

[@danielsavitz5774]

@@TheTroyc1982 for clarification, are you suggesting that Abbotsford & surrounding areas should be part of the Vancouver metro? And is it due to area or Vancouver's sphere of influence? Almost everything outside of that are remote mountainous areas and the ocean. It's a good argument, although it looks like it only adds about 200k population. I agree that the US metro areas you suggested could use some trimming down (there are dozens of square miles of actual wilderness in the lower Orlando Metro.......what???), but these areas barely contribute anything in the way of population.

[@jamescoulson7729]

@@trainsandmore2319 that’s not really true Montreal is only the 3rd most dense major metro area in Canada, Toronto and Vancouver are more densely populated. yes lots of Canada is car centric and single family homes but it’s not to the same degree as the usa. For an example the most densely populated metro areas in the USA are LA and New York, with a population density around 1,000 people per square kilometre, while of the top 100 largest cities in Canada 90 are more dense then New York or LA with Toronto being 3x as dense and Vancouver and Montreal being 2.5x as dense. This is because although a city like New York has a dense downtown it has single family homes that go 100km out to the end of Long Island and even north east Pennsylvania. So it’s overall density is considerably lower then Canadian cities.

[@stewartgibson3843]

As of April 1, 2024 Canada's population is 41 012 563, Vancouver might small compared to US city but the cost of housing is the 3rd most expensive in the world average cost of a house is $1.6 million CDN or $1.1 million USD.

[@Hamsteak]

If you don't live near one of the major metros here in Canada, it's pretty underpopulates. I myself living in the Niagara Region. We have half a million people but my town only has 20,000 within the region. It's actually a really nice place to live

[@ravBuffalo]

Are you in Grimsby?

[@Hamsteak]

@@ravBuffalo no, Thorold

[@Will0398]

I’ve been to Vancouver and Victoria and they are both beautiful cities, but they are smaller than we think. Vancouver has around 600,000 people and Victoria has around 80,000 people.

[@001bsc]

Métropolitain 2 millions

[@garynubipwek3178]

Ur way off

[@carstarsarstenstesenn]

@@garynubipwek3178 He's pretty close. Vancouver's city population in 2021 was 662k and Victoria was 90k in 2017. Look it up

[@MrGregp11]

Those are city/municipal populations. The metro area is 2.6million for Vancouver and almost 400k for Victoria. Vancouver and Portland are generally a good comparison for size even for metro area. This video doesn't dive into how these numbers are counted which matters a lot. If you look at only city population then Toronto is the 4th largest city in North America. But it's combined statistical area puts it down near Atlanta.

[@jamescoulson7729]

That’s because Canadian cities tend to like there downtown areas to be governed by a different government then the suburbs and so yes the city proper has a low population but the city proper of London is 10k and we all know London isn’t a city of 10k . We are talking about metro population

[@wasaga98]

Canadian cities might be small but we do have the widest sections of highways (ON Highway 401 18 lanes in one section in Toronto from Highway 403/410 to Highway 427), Highway 401 in Toronto is also one of the busiest in North America

[@mcmudkipp]

IS the busiest highway in NA

[@Anahi1991]

Busiest, not widest. We do haha Toronto reminds me so much of my city houston for that reason. Plus our several skylines y’all have too. And dense than suburban areas intermixed. Love Toronto!

[@jlpack62]

Is that wider than the Katy Freeway in Houston?

[@Taladar2003]

So what you are saying is that Canada does dysfunctional urban planning just as much as the US?

[@seanthe100]

Doesn't Katy freeway have 26

[@Jo30307]

The fact that almost all the major Canadian cities compare to mediocre mid sized American cities is insane

[@kenos911]

frrrr Also the ottawa one is for a fact smaller as that also combines Gatineau and surrounding cities so it's even smaller

[@TheTroyc1982]

it's based on how the US defines metros compared to how canada does. in the video the following cities were said to have the same metro populations, now let's look at the surface size of these areas: Vancouver: 2,878 km2 San Antonio: 19,130 km2 Portland: 17,310 km2 Orlando: 10,390 km2

[@seanthe100]

@@TheTroyc1982 again for San Antonio 2 million of those people actually only live in 3,200 km2 much the same for the other cities. In most of the most metros like Orlando majority of it is reservation lands and the eternal surrounds the center City.

[@mileitman]

@@kenos911 I thought it's closer to 1.3 million. If you include Gatineau.

[@kenos911]

@@mileitman No, wikipedia includes Gatineau And Gatineau isn’t even that big, I would know living here

[@jeffsansome90]

I get the spirit of this video. I had the same impression when I went to Reykjavik Iceland. It seems like a decent sized city based on its density and skyline but the entire capital region has a population of just over 200k. As many have said this is an apples to oranges comparison for that reason. Canadian metros are more similar to American cities in terms of their land area. American metros seem to be a loose agglomeration of area towns that are within commuting distance of a city. Using my city Toronto as an example, a fairer comparison to American metros would be the GTHA (Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area) which is only an area of 8,244.42km2 with a population of 7.3 million whereas your comparison with Miami Metro compared with the GTHA has almost double the land area (15,890km2) and 1 million less people. And Miami is pretty dense for American standards.

[@UrbanRail]

Several cities in Canada, like Victoria, and Vancouver are made up of separate municipalities with their own mayors and councils. Toronto and Halifax amalgamated from several different regions to form a large one.

[@ALuimes]

But the other cities that were amalgamated into Toronto were originally boroughs that just grew outward from the inner city. Not real cities in the true sense.

[@binoutech]

canadian cities have nice personalities it's not size that matters :(

[@TheTroyc1982]

US metros cover vastly more surface area and therefore have more population than Canadian cities because of how we define metros areas. here is metro surface area of the Vancouver compared to San Antonio, Portland and Orlando: Vancouver: 2,878 km2 San Antonio: 19,130 km2 Portland: 17,310 km2 Orlando: 10,390 km2

[@tyfrank3427]

One of the biggest reasons that Canadian cities seem bigger is they do not have the same metropolitan as comparable American cities. Calgary has over 1.3M but it's metropolitan isn't much larger than that.

[@jonmre2862]

Thank you! You keep hitting it out of the park for geography videos, and talking about population of different areas is always a minefield of loose details. You always go out of your way to specify MSA population, or city population. (so few do) and hit all the comparisons that the giga-geo-geeks are looking for. Canadian city population comparisons, just the sort of thing I would have done in college as a project. I love seeing these on screen. I grew up right on the border, in a town of 100.... (US side) and for me these Canadian cities were some of the first I saw and experienced. This video hit the mark for that old memory, sitting in the car, looking at the population numbers in the road atlas, trying to calculate the metro area vs. city area. Keep up what you are doing.

[@F1RST_BLUD1]

Got funny thing I forgot Calgary has less population than Mexicali, which is less dense or doesn't even have Skyline

[@timg2727]

Canadian cities in general seem to have disproportionately impressive skylines relative to their size. I live in a US city that's roughly equivalent in population to Regina or Saskatoon, for example, but both of those cities absolutely obliterate my city in terms of their skylines. It really seems to be a trend across Canada. Calgary and Edmonton are not small cities by any means, but both of them have skylines that outclass US cities of comparable size. There are plenty of other examples. Hell, look at Yellowknife.

[@TheRandCrews]

I think you meant Saskatoon, Saskatchewan is the province where Regina and Saskatoon are in. Also even with their small size skyline is okay but doesn’t compliment much of downtown due to lots of parking lots and a 1x1 km2 size of the downtown

[@timg2727]

@@TheRandCrews yes, that's a typo on my part. I meant Saskatoon. Also, I'm strictly talking about skylines. Both cities have impressive skylines for only having ≈250k populations. Unfortunately, having way too many surface parking lots is a common problem in just about every North American city.

[@linuxman7777]

If you want to see the opposite look at European or Japanese cities and their skylines. as a Pittsburgh Resident I thought when I went to Tokyo I would be blown away by a skyline of a city with a metro population of 15x or more the size of my home city, but I was very disappointed, The metro area of Tokyo has dozens of downtowns, and other prefectures nearby have their own downtowns as well, there also is alot of sprawl across Kanto. There isn't 1 single business district like many American cities have, there is alot of midrise everywhere, as most buildings cannot be made as tall due to earthquakes. I hear Europe is similar with really lame skylines.

[@dns-te6qc]

Short Canadian skyline competition after USA competition

[@trightnar]

you should do the opposite video with California cities. cities California's consider unimportant minor towns and backwaters are larger than many state capitals and largest cities

[@markwilson2992]

I used to live in Regina! Cold, very cold and flat.

[@tanner4farm236]

The biggest difference is most large Canadian cities are actually separated into many smaller cities so the population will seem small but when you actually there all the different cities just conjoin into mega cities. Such as Vancouver is attached to Surrey and Coquitlam and Burnaby and Richmond and Langley

[@Droxal]

I believe he's using metro population stats so what you say is true but not applicable. American cities do the same. Miami itself has a fairly small population!

[@JoePreiditsch]

There are different measurement criteria between US metropolitan areas and Canadian CMAs. US metros include the entire county while Canadian CMAs are grouped with lower tier municipalities within the county. IE the Kitchener CMA doesn’t include all of Waterloo Region. Additional statistics Canada doesn’t merge CMAs once they grow together, so from an urban continuity perspective the Toronto CMA would be merged with the Oshawa and Hamilton CMAs if they were in the US.

[@JohnManzo]

...also, Canada doesn't measure "metro" populations the same as does the US. CMA does not equal MSA. The US numbers inflate population substantially. Chicago's MSA comprises THREE metro areas: Chicago, Hammond-Gary IN, and Kenosha WI. If Canada played that game, Toronto's "MSA" (which is a US invention) would comprise all of Greater Toronto AND Oshawa AND Hamilton AND Kitchener-Waterloo and maybe even Barrie and St Catharine's. This is often referred to as "the Golden Horseshoe" and is easily as big as Chicago- but Stats Canada doesn't do this. Vancouver could easily and justifiably add Abbotsford to its "metro" as Seattle does (by MSA/CMSA) with Bellingham and boom it'd be bigger than Portland. As a geography buff YOU SHOULD KNOW ALL OF THIS but you never once mention these differences in this video. And then you cite census figures that aren't close to current.

[@alcarbo8613]

I think a good example that puts into context the size of Canadian cities compared to American cities are the failed experiments of the Montreal Expos (MLB), and Vancouver Grizzles (NBA), both teams struggled with attendance for their entire existence and eventually had to be forcibly relocated, the fact neither city could hold down a professional sports that’s not Hockey really goes to show their true size

[@oaxtec765]

I don't think that fair though, cities way way smaller host major league sports teams. I mean look at Green Bay, it has 320k in it's MSA and has a NFL team, Vancouver is like 7 times the size of that, and Cleveland has a MLB team despite having 2 million in the metro area, significant but still 200k less than Vancouver and less than half that of Montreal, finally Memphis and New Orleans both have NBA teams despite having 1.35 and 1.25 million in their respective metros, making then half the size of Vancouver and only a quarter of that of Montreal. I think much more likely reasons for the failure of those teams is less strong of a sports culture around baseball and basketball, bad franchises, or poorly located arenas

[@alcarbo8613]

@@oaxtec765 Thr Packers are a satellite team for Milwaukee and the entire state of Wisconsin, the Cleveland teams have fans in all of Northern Ohio AND metro Columbus, the Memphis Grizzles are once again the satellite team for Nashville and the entire state of Tennessee, and the New Orleans Pelicans struggle with attendance and will probably relocate in the near future Obviously the failure of the MLB in Montreal, and the NBA in Vancouver is more complex then just small markets, but that undoubtedly was a big factor, look at the much larger Toronto who’ve always massively supported their MLB and NBA to spite questionable stadiums and poor on field performances

[@oaxtec765]

@@alcarbo8613 I guess I appreciate that but I feel like your speaking more to the number of the large population centers in a given area as to the size of Vancouver and Montreal. I mean if you're going to count Memphis or Cleveland as teams for places 100 or 200 miles away, why is Ottawa, Quebec city, not to mention Sherbrooke and Three Rivers, counted as part of the Montreal fan base, you're talking 6+ million people in that market, you're point resonates more with Vancouver, but I feel like your speaking much more to the consentration of Canadian population ( not being many people from rural areas or small towns coming into see a game) or that there are less large Canadian cities, not that Vancouver and Montreal themselves are not large.

[@alcarbo8613]

@@oaxtec765 I think the point is more that there’s less of a rural/exurban support base around Montreal and Vancouver, Sherbrooke isn’t that big, and Toledo, Columbus, or Youngstown are far closer to Cleveland then Quebec City is to Montreal, Vancouver is literally surrounded by nothing but Moose

[@oaxtec765]

@@alcarbo8613 I agree about Vancouver although there is Abbotsford, but Colombus is farther from Cleveland than Ottawa from Montreal, and if you're going to include the entire state of Tennessee for Memphis, than your talking about Chattanooga and Knoxville, much farther from Memphis than Quebec City is from Montreal. Realistically the population support for the Memphis grizzlies is maybe 4 million, and that's a stretch, that's by no means larger than even Montreals metro area. Vancouver, and western Canada is definitely lacking in exurban and rural population, although I would argue that doesn't make Vancouver smaller than it's American counterparts, but eastern Canada has very significant rural and exurban population, I can definitely attest to it's existence in Montreal.

[@SilentZyko]

you got vancouver wrong, it clocks in around 3.1 mil in 2023-24 its been bigger then portland and denver for quite some time. just alot of the data google has on it is older

[@Mr.Septon]

This is part of something that I talk about a lot. I like to compare provinces to states, or cities as Tokyo has about 40 million people. I like to compare the physical size to European or African nations, and the economies , and all that jazzed. Immediately subscribed.

[@CNSPORTZEDITZ]

As a Canadian, I don’t think this ranking was very fair. You included suburban areas and most of these cities (except Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver) have little to none. What if I told you Atlanta has almost the same population as London, ON. “You didn’t include the suburbs” I know, but London has no suburbs either.

[@gazzamuso]

You could flip the bias on this and say that US cities are unnecessarily sprawling and ridiculous. That would be more accurate and more interesting

[@scottcampbell2707]

I hadn't realized that Vancouver was smaller than Orlando. I wonder which one has more Canadians.

[@n.b.3521]

😂 Nice one!

[@476233]

It’s really only comparable you go by metro areas… Orlando city proper only has around 200k but when you add in the metro communities of Kissimmee, sanford, and all the population of the resort areas, it is actually just around 200-300k residents. Orlando’s skyline is actually quite small among Florida cities… I would argue Jacksonville has a bigger skyline and Tallahassee may even be somewhat comparable.

[@Dexter037S4]

Ottawa is actually closer to 1.4 million if Gatineau is included, which it should be.

[@yougoslavia]

China has 66 cities with over 1M people.

[@randomcanad14n3h]

There are many small towns here that act as the hub for large regions. Therefore, they have all the businesses and services you'd expect from a big city, making them feel larger. Nanaimo BC is just over 100k in population yet serves the whole north island, making it feel at least twice as big. It has 4 shopping malls!

[@pummer]

I love this channel! I have learned about so many good places, from Bu8ffalo all the way to Head Hilton Island!

[@n.b.3521]

😂 Also Brimingham

[@mingzhong5481]

I live in a suburb of Vancouver. I can walk to 10 schools around me. In most US metropolitan area you may not be able to reach your own primary school without a car.

[@seanthe100]

That's due to Vancouver geography constraints more than anything else it's similar on the west coast in the US too. Didn't know Vancouver was such a small city though.

[@mingzhong5481]

@@seanthe100 Not really geographical constraint but rather ALR. Plenty of undeveloped flatland around Vancouver restricted to agricultural use.

[@willp.8120]

North-South from downtown Toronto at the lake to rural area is only about 25 miles. By comparison, Birmingham, Alabama is more spread out, North-South from Alabaster to Gardendale and is about 35-40 miles

[@sweetpanda4958]

Toronto grew along lake Ontario so it's over 120km long east to west. Birmingham is only about 25km east to west. It's not a fair comparison

[@yessitsme6884]

My favorite Winnipeg fact is how almost everyone in Manitoba lives there. This is no joke, in a province of 1.4M people, 834k live in the Winnipeg metro area, or about 60%. When you venture out of the city, it's just small villages. The 2nd biggest city in Manitoba is Brandon... at 54k people for the metro area, that's quite a step down. When you cross Canada, Winnipeg makes no sense, it's like they transported a small section of downtown Toronto in the middle of nowhere. I don't understand how this city exists, but without it Manitoba would be even more useless.

[@476233]

I’ve looked at drive thrus of Manitoba and I’ve always been fascinated at how Winnipeg just kind of pops up out of nowhere. It’s amazing how such a beautiful, modern city seems to exist without access to a major and significant natural resource or access such as a river, nearby sea, or other waterway to connect it to other areas. I guess this is similar to how many midwestern american cities grew after the arrival of the railroads.

[@yessitsme6884]

@@476233 Winnipeg is at the junction of the Assiniboine and Red rivers. While these are not major rivers, they are the reason the city formed there. It's also fairly close to the massive Lake Winnipeg, and is also around where the Canadian Shield ends and becomes the Prairies, also making it a more convenient entry point from the US since most of Ontario is split from our southern neighbor by a bunch of lakes and dense forest. Also, it is almost exactly the longitudinal middle point of Canada. I'm not surprised there is a major city there, what I'm surprised is how big it is and how empty the rest of Manitoba is. I guess it gets so cold that people wanted to stick together.

[@476233]

@@yessitsme6884 oh, I didn’t know it was near rivers. Do either connect to Hudson Bay or Great Lakes? Now that you put it in the context of the shield and the Hudson Bay, and the middle of Canada, it does make more sense. And what you said about the cold making people stick together does as well. Great thinking.

[@476233]

And Lake Winnipeg, if I remember, there are a lot of mineral deposits from the glaciers during the ice age around there right? Or is that just around the areas further north?

[@theroach1012]

Good job on this video, little brother. You are the geography dude.

[@BeaverGeography]

🥶🥶

[@acanadian4785]

Isn’t Kitchener part of the tri city area including Waterloo and Cambridge?

[@DutchSimmer1]

I'm not sure if you're familiar at all with Dutch geography, but I'd like it to see your take as to what qualifies as cities, how the metro areas are divided and all that stuff. Because every time I see one of your videos, the metro areas of North America seem insane to me. In the Netherlands we don't even have a city with more than a million residents within its administrative region (biggest is Amsterdam with like 820k or something).

[@Nicholas-ks8xp]

The picture from Halifax 2015 is already outdated. Towers over 15 floors tall are popping up everywhere.

[@ianshand3739]

Yeah, Halifax is growing so rapid!

[@erikhutt5957]

The majority of cities in Canada are smaller than their US/Mexico counterparts. However, Toronto is the 4th largest city in North America ( 7th Metro) and Montreal is the 8th largest city (20th metro). The fact that Two of the ten largest cities are located in a country with a population less than California is quite impressive. The density of these cities is also far greater then most US cities where a car is mandatory to live and navigate urban space.

[@ontariofirs7347]

As a Hamiltonian it is insulting to say Hamilton is a part of the GTA when Hamilton was established as a city in 1846 (Toronto was 1834). Saying Hamilton is not a distinct established city from Toronto (and a Toronto suburb city) is like saying Baltimore and Washington are one, or Philadelphia is a part of Metro NYC.

[@davidisaacs7024]

Huntington, WV subscriber here! I'm glad to hear you mention my hometown!

[@SilentZyko]

Hey guys Vancouverite here, I would like to point out that Vancouver has been bigger then all those cities for quite some time its just that Vancouver dosent count the fraser valley protion towards the metro population even though chilliwack and abbotsford-mission are suburbs of it and that he is using older census saying that vancouver is still have 2.6m when today is is 3.1m. If you add the fraser valley pops to the newer number your get 3.4-3.5m which is bigger then a large portion of american cities.

[@Arkiasis]

I decided to look into it and how the US and Canada describe metro areas are vastly different. Vancouver metro: 2.6 million Sacramento metro: 2.4 million But... Vancouver's metro area has a area of 2,800 sqkm while Sacramento is 13,195 sqkm. Quite the difference. Sacramento county is more comparable in size (2,500 sqkm) and that has 1.6 million. Calling Yuba City or Auburn as part of Sacramento doesn't makes sense. Just like nobody is calling Abbotsford part of Vancouver. Portland's MSA is 17,000 sqkm, Orlando is 10,500 sqkm and San Antonio is 19,100 sqkm. These are sizes so insane that nobody would claim any of these outlying communities are apart of the city. Salem isn't anywhere close to Portland. By the same metric Chicagoland would be comparable to the Greater Golden Horseshoe area. Chicagoland is 28,000 sqkm with 9.6 million and the extended Golden Horseshoe would be 31,000 sqkm at 9.7 million. But again, combining Barrie, Peterborough, Brantford and even Hamilton to Toronto's metro area makes no sense. Kenosha is further to Chicago than Brantford is to Toronto. Toronto proper is 2.8 million (630 sqkm) while Chicago is 2.7 million (607 sqkm) so very very similar. Toronto also is a giant construction site and is growing rapidly, by 2030 it'll have 3.5 million. So by 2030 it'll easily take over Chicago's skyline.

[@andrewjones2026]

Toronto is actually the 4th biggest metro area in North America behind Mexico City, NYC, LA and very close To a Chicago… it’s actually quite big

[@georgeheld1901]

6:31 Victoria’s skyline actually looks relatively like Portland ME, that’s pretty neat!

[@jamescoulson7729]

Victoria is a very old city, that kinda stopped growing from the 1940s-1990 so it didn’t adapt much 20th century architecture. So it’s old architecturally shares more in common with many east coast cities then western counterparts besides Victorian houses like San Francisco. But that picture of its skyline is pretty outdated, as since the 90s Victoria had been in a bit of a boom and the modern skyline has lots of medium to high rise residential buildings behind its old town and across the water

[@georgeheld1901]

@@jamescoulson7729 very cool! Thx for sharing!

[@Anahi1991]

They look bigger because geography and density. Driving across the bridge into Montréal it looks so huge and urban. But it’s not too big lol.

[@jorgearias8372]

Thank you for shouting out Oxnard 👏

[@paulmyles5101]

Canadian Cities are even smaller in population than what you have listed. Kitchener for example is the largest city in the Region of Waterloo population signs for kitchener claim 235,000 for the city with the whole of Waterloo Region being the 522,000 you quoted, i liked the fact you gave a shout out to 1 of Kitchener's sibling cities by mentioning the city of Waterloo but not Cambridge the 3rd of the tri-cities(1 of the products of amalgamation under Mike Harris) again with city of Hamilton the population you quoted 700,000+ is what would have been the county Hamilton is in instead of city proper 569,000(amalgamation under preimer Mike Harris) and again with Toronto. Toronto's metro cenus area includes the city of Mississauga which has over 1 million residents itself. I enjoyed the video overall though and like your channel.

[@timdella92]

There are more skyscrapers under construction in Toronto than anywhere else in North America. A few years ago, Toronto surpassed Chicago in terms of population, in a few years time, it’ll surpass Chicago in terms of the number of skyscrapers.

[@stevenroshni1228]

"3rd biggest country in North America"

[@danielsavitz5774]

Of all the countries in North America, Canada is one of them

[@danielklassen6667]

Canada is the biggest country in North America and 2nd in the world

[@alantaylor3910]

The Canadian territory of Nunavut has a population of about 40,525 people and an area of 2,038,722 Square kilometers giving it a population density of 1 person per 50 square kilometers. Now that's elbow room

[@davidchung9022]

Going off this video, I think a population comparison with Australian cities would also be a great watch! 🇦🇺

[@MikeV8652]

That's a great idea! I saw photos of Australian skylines and was blown away, especially by those of Brisbane and Gold Coast, and that's just in the state of Queensland.

[@kaaronhudson8112]

No geography king already did a video about that

[@christian.rossmann]

@@MikeV8652 Funny enough I live in a city smack bang in the middle of those two. Not as impressive skyline but still a relatively large city at 350k people (Logan)

[@bikeaddictbp]

Melbourne and Sydney are both like Toronto. The interesting thing is that they feel like Canadian cities, perhaps more Vancouver than Toronto, especially in winter ... But those two cities are near 40% the population of Australia. Canberra is like Kitchener!

[@brennansawyer8688]

I always thought that about Vancouver since i grew up very close to the area. Such a dense city, when i went to the usa for the first time, the cities were so suburban for the most part.

[@uncouver]

I taught Beaver how to say Vancouver. CityBeautiful wouldn't answer my dm's. Pronunciation 10/10

[@loudeasis]

Being born and raised in Calgary, the main reason as to why we have a lot of buildings within the downtown is mainly due to the vast number of oil and gas companies that are headquartered here.

[@bjdon99]

Have you ever looked at semi-old photos of Calgary from say the 1960s? Or even better the 1940s? It was so much smaller then. A lot of the planted trees hadn't grown up by then either. It was a really small place out on the edge of the mountains until the mid-1970s when it really began to explode in size.

[@dasse8717]

To make Americans feel like Canadians, compare the USAs largest cities to China's. In the world NYC is not top 10 and USA only has 3 in top 50.

[@c.m.redhouse7667]

Can you add to the list comparing any US cities of similar population size to Yellowknife, NWT Canada? Note: Yellowknife, pop. 20,340 has an impressive "skyline" with several skyscrapers including the 17-story (197 ft) building.

[@lamegaming9835]

this video was like the perfect setup on how dense places are better and stuff and it just completely did not

[@BeaverGeography]

That’s not how these videos work, I’m not here to decide stuff like that, simply make an enjoyable video

[@Econunlocked]

Most of the video was good but coming from someone from Halifax I thought some of the thing you said where wrong 1. When you said the metro area of Halifax is home to 400k this is wrong it is the county of Halifax the metro area has over 700k and is expected to get to 1 million in the next decade

[@chefssaltybawlz]

Beaver: they are smaller than you think People: you’re not taking density into account!!!! Beaver: ??

[@lazygongfarmer2044]

The Canadian copium is real

[@chefssaltybawlz]

@@lazygongfarmer2044 Lmao fr. Let my boy make his videos 😂

[@seanthe100]

I think a lot of this is the isolation of the cities within their areas, you see this in the US as well cities that are the only city in an isolated area always seems bigger than cities in an area like Florida winch has 6 areas within the state that have over a million.

[@lajya01]

Despite being the 2nd largest country in the world, the accessible part of Canada is actually pretty small. Outside the Windsor-Quebec City corridor and the Edmonton-Calgary-Vancouver triangle, it's mainly huge chunks of wilderness.

[@dylanbigham9941]

My hometown (Houston) would be the largest in Canada if was in it. Comparing Houston's 7.2 Million with Toronto's 6.2 Million really puts into perspective that factor.

[@jamescoulson7729]

Toronto metro area population is very conservative because Canada is very conservative with its counts, if you. Count Torontos metro area by the same criteria that US cities count them it would have a population of just under 10 million so its more like Chicago

[@BenriBea]

​@@jamescoulson7729 True. US metro's are very inconsistent at counting population. In DFW, Weatherford and other smaller towns like it count as part of the population even though you have to travel roughly 15 miles of rural to get to them. Then you have LA and the Inland Empire which are completely connected, yet they're 2 different metros

[@Anahi1991]

@@jamescoulson7729 well In Harris county alone we have 5 million. So the other 2.2 really comes from a lot of suburban and rural land we could exclude. I like Toronto though reminds me of Houston in some ways

[@TheTroyc1982]

look at the suface area of these two Houston: 26,061 km² Toronto: 5,902 km² Toronto at a surface area matching Houston is over 10 million people

[@sacvideo1998]

Wikipedia says Greater Houston Area covers 10,062 square miles with 7.1 million people, while Greater Toronto area is 2,750 square miles with 6.7 million. I think if you expanded Greater Toronto Area by 7,000 square miles you'd also add a lot of people, like for example the 570,000 people living in Hamilton just on the western edge of the GTA, or the 400,000 people in Niagara region, or another 500,000 people north of the GTA in Simcoe county and Barrie.

[@TooMuchShantae69]

Windsor Ontario has a population around 200k although it could be considered apart of the Detroit metro

[@sonicnator]

Detroit native here. It might as well be! Ive noticed plenty of people over the years commuting to Detroit/Metro Detroit for work and leisure. I doubt it will ever be officially considered part of Detroits metro though.

[@noahdeng9401]

I’m from Windsor. While I used to go there for shopping and Tourism, Windsor still has its own identity.

[@f181234]

@@sonicnator you definitely notice a difference when you cross over

[@sonicnator]

@@f181234 there is indeed! Was just over there on Wednesday, and surprised at how different it feels when you cross over.

[@appa609]

Sure but if you count the cities without the suburbs then it's much closer. Toronto is slightly bigger than Chicago. Montreal is bigger than Philadelphia and Phonenix. Calgary is between Dallas and San Diego. The cities are actually big. But the suburban sprawl is not nearly as expansive.

[@Andrew-df1dr]

If you want to compare skylines, please check out Australia. Melbourne, which currently is the second largest city in Australia, has a far, far higher skyline than Sydney, the current largest city.

[@hart-of-gold]

Sydney has an altitude cap (Sydney Tower is the 1 building that exceeds the cap) because of its airports, Kingford Smith Airport and Rose Bay are close to the city.

[@Andrew-df1dr]

@@hart-of-gold Yes. As does Adelaide and all the cities in Australia.

[@jeffm9770]

Toronto itself has about 2.8 million, making it the fourth largest city in North America. From what I've fount the greater Toronto area has 6.7 and if you include the whole Golden Horseshoe agglomeration it's over 9.7 million. Toronto also has a cool castle called Casa Loma.

[@terrygelinas4593]

When you say "smaller" you mean in area, versus USA cities. Perhaps Canadian cities make better use of land than US cities. Edmonton has a huge area versus it's population (think cars needed). Ultimately, European cities make amazing use of space.

[@jakelugenbeel2666]

Imagine Sacramento hosting the olympics. wild.

[@lucykwiatek5159]

Er... Winnipeg isn't smaller than Allentown. It's smaller than the Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton metro area (which also includes a bit of New Jersey), but Allentown itself is more comparable to Waterloo, Ontario.

[@BeaverGeography]

It’s the metro I was referring to

[@Andybility]

Living in Jacksonville FL for so long, when I travel to other cities I think they're so small. Can you do a video on Jacksonville?

[@mathlover4994]

Canadian cities have more impressive skylines than American cities with same population.

[@JohnJFebreeze]

Thank you for putting Toronto in its place

[@JingleBell12]

Nice video, would like to see lot of such videos

[@wombat613]

Two things about Canada 90% of the population is about 100 miles from the US border. The region known as the Golden Horseshoe (Toronto around to Hamilton) has between 25% and 33% of the population depending on line drawing Still under 10 million though.

[@edgarponce746]

I live in Phoenix, where the Metro pop. is almost 5M and the Skyline is maybe a 10th that of Torontos 😫

[@mw...]

good work . leave it to Beaver

[@jonnygzz1631]

Omg as someone from the neighbouring city to Kitchener, Cambridge (140,000 people), I never realised how tiny out cities are 💀

[@DUNGSI27]

Lol I feel like this video disrespects American cities more than Canadian ones, as you showed that the Canadians were able to build more impressive cities with a less population. As someone from Sacramento I do agree the city i underwhelming for its actual size, though it seems Sacramento is growing fast. If the current trend continues you guys will start hear from us soon enough lol.

[@alphax4785]

Always interesting vids, but you gotta spell check, 4:23 has two typos for Buffalo and Birmingham.