spartacus motors ahead on Muur van Geraardsbergen to win 2010 ronde van vlaanderen.
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@9Ballr9 ай бұрын
Wow, Cancellara was really motoring up that climb, wasn't he?
@StopTheRot14 күн бұрын
😂
@Turk3YbAstEr10 жыл бұрын
tom boonen's "suffering" and "fighting the bike" is lightyears faster than I could go up that hill
@warrenvazquez10 жыл бұрын
it's incredible - he is one of the elite and he is suffering at the hands of cancellara. most of us would have climbed off the bike miles before
@Tonytestcase5 жыл бұрын
Did Boonen change his gear a couple of times? There are moments when his pedal speed is lower, before the gap is growing.
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
Only way I get up that hill is by climbing off the bike
@DanielSong396 жыл бұрын
FYI, Boonen gained time on every other rider in the field in the Muur. That should give you some perspective on how fast Cancellara went up the climb.
@william6171 Жыл бұрын
Annemiek van Vleuten in 2020 Omloop het Nieuwsblad went faster up it than Cancellara in 2010 Ronde
@jeroendekort5696 Жыл бұрын
Na hoeveel km moest Annemiek de muur op?
@Shitinthemorning Жыл бұрын
Boonen had a gear problem, why nobody can see that?!
@jaysimoes3705Ай бұрын
It is not the whole climb that is important here. It is that Fabian went only in the last 300 m or so and that is where it is amazing/suspiscious.
@grzejnikMilosz8 жыл бұрын
This actually should be put to a scientific investigation. Physicists should calculate how much (more) power you need to output to build so much advantage in a couple seconds on a steep more than 10% (average I believe it was more than 10% at this very moment). Someone who cycle anything in his life and when put this into one's head knows exactly that this situation is just iconically ridiculous.
@DanielSong397 жыл бұрын
It's like the Froome acceleration up the Ventoux in 2013. A 1000+ watt surge within a couple seconds that takes place without visible effort from the rider.
@skinny557727 жыл бұрын
They should compare his time in the video to the Strava segment for it. If it's the same for some random strong guy doing 600 watts then it's probably legit.
@oldtwinsna83474 жыл бұрын
Just estimates out of my butt after using Zwift for so long: Boonen was probably putting out a solid 600 watts at that moment and when seeing Cancellara motor away raised that to 700-800 watts. Cancellara's distancing would make the output well over 1400 watts. That's the kind of power unleashed in a sprint, which Cancellara had no pedigree for, plus he doesn't even show strained signs of that kind of power being made.
@DanielSong398 ай бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 Cancellara actually has had top 5 finishes in bunch sprints but yeah you're not going to do 1400 watts+ there without putting in a visible effort
@dunkulusjones45644 ай бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 please show your calculations
@tomvermeulen8003 Жыл бұрын
I used to give cancellara the benefit of the doubt. But after discovering the very very sneaky second bike change I think its very unlikely he didnt do mechanical doping. Cancellara had a mechanical issue and did a first bike chance. The main mechanic jumps out of the car and gives him a new bike. A few km's later Breschel has a real issue and requests a new bike, but the main mechanic isnt in the car anymore resulting in Breschel getting the wrong bike, losing a lot of time and never returning to the front. A few km further the images show Cancellara suddenly sitting on his original bike. What happened, at the point where cancellara did his first bike change, the stage makes a loop. The mechanic had to walk 500 meter to get on the other part of the stage. What does amateur footage reveal. In a turn everybody where makes the short turn, Cancellara goes wide where the main mechanic is waiting with the original bike and you see Cancellara do a lightning bike swap. Its a sad thing but after all these years i am convinced Cancellara cheated.
@HolgerDanske8749 ай бұрын
I don't understand. Why wasn't any of this caught by cameras in a race like this?
@scandinavianboys43438 ай бұрын
100% motor can’t believe I didn’t saw it when I watched it live in 2010
@robertob.27722 жыл бұрын
No one can convince me that he wasn't motorized, especially if you see also the video of Paris Roubaix of a week later...
@nicolasdelaforge74207 ай бұрын
He needed no motor to win 6 world titles in TT, when he could not have cheated.
@Mgs94475 жыл бұрын
Ahahahah the next video KZbin suggests me is "GCN - Are e-bikes fun? Road bike vs e-bike".
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
Well you see the difference in this video
@joshschrader47323 жыл бұрын
As likely as QAnon
@josdenis36849 ай бұрын
Cancellara had a very “special” bike that day. And also in Paris-Roubaix.
@alexp2473658 ай бұрын
This was the day my hero died....
@lucmeeussen9714Ай бұрын
Prove it or shut up.
@el_vee_eeАй бұрын
Slechte verliezers
@oceanedetotesАй бұрын
@@lucmeeussen9714 close your eyes doesn't turn the light off
@jansnauwaert17857 күн бұрын
@@lucmeeussen9714 Indeed, all this is (stupid) gossip. If you can't prove it, shut up indeed. Cancellara was an exceptional champion.
@zoulouzoulou47266 жыл бұрын
La caméra écrase beaucoup l' image , mais pour l' avoir déja fait en VTT , c est un véritable mur , la pente est impressionnante !! Ce que fait Cancellarra est inhumain , quelque chose cloche et je m' etais deja fait la reflexion en direct
@mr0totonio2 жыл бұрын
EBIKE
@simonrano8072Ай бұрын
il y a que 50 m à plus de 14 %, le reste à 10 % ou moins. C'est pas si terrible et le pavé est très régulier. La côte de la ferme Libert fait la même longueur mais sa moyenne est au niveau de la pire portion du Grammont. Le Koppenberg aussi est bien plus raide que le Grammont avec un pavé bien plus mauvais mais sec pas besoin d'un VTT
@jellevanthuyne19842 ай бұрын
and there my grandson, the e-bike was born
@MrChippinator7 күн бұрын
Watching this back now, the way he moves his legs reminds me of how guys go along on e-bikes. Today, everyone would have figured it out, back then, e-bikes weren’t as common.
@sparx5509 ай бұрын
It’s almost like cancellara has a hidden motor in his frame.
@SSVukicАй бұрын
All his win was with hidden electric motor.
@DanielSong397 жыл бұрын
Did Cancellara just put 30 seconds on Boonen in under a minute?
@charlesjohnson92495 жыл бұрын
Something like that. And it can happen, I remember Froome loosing around 30-35 seconds on a climbing stage at the TdF 2017, on the last 150 meters!
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
mega smacky Phil Gaimon troopers are here lol
@santiagobenites5 жыл бұрын
@@dansprague2 Cancellara used a motor. It's obvious. Sadly he got away with it.
@toozydude25 жыл бұрын
Putting 30s on someone in 1min requires the front person to go 1/3 faster than the other. If you go twice as fast as them, then u gain more than 1min gap in 1min.
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
Frank M Boonen was on the limit going into the climb, Cancellara waited for the steep and put the hammer down. It happens almost any year in the RVV, this year Bettiol did it to GvA and the rest of the favorites. Not really unbelievable, just racing. The fact that he never got out of the saddle is his style, and to avoid slipping on the steep cobbles while putting out 1000+W.
@JumpingWatermelons3 жыл бұрын
I will always remember this attack, because afterword, Tom Boonen said (paraphrasing): "I didn't have any problem there. I was riding well. When he attacked near the top, I was doing 900 watts, but he was still riding away. " (It turns out, Cancellara had a max power that day of 1450, probably during that attack)
@roebbiej2 жыл бұрын
His motor* and cancellara combined was 1450 watts
@kahtering35552 жыл бұрын
Motor Doping
@gimmigimmigimmi Жыл бұрын
900w on a climb? you clearly don't know what you're talking about. maybe try riding a bike once?
@JumpingWatermelons Жыл бұрын
@@gimmigimmigimmi you don't think Tom Boonen could make 900w while riding up a short hill?
@gimmigimmigimmi Жыл бұрын
@@JumpingWatermelons 900w is more than 10w/kg, so the answer is easily no.
@Sills718 ай бұрын
This is DOPE. both mechanical and medical.
@jansnauwaert17857 күн бұрын
Well, besides that I don't buy it: you can't prove if, so shut up.
@thesoultwins725 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I am a great fan of Fabian Cancellara and think he was an exceptionally gifted and strong rider. But I have to admit that his performances during 2010 do cause questions to be asked. The featured extract of Cancellara attacking Tom Boonen [who is no slouch and an extremely strong rider himself] on the brutal climb of Muur van Geraardsbergen in the Tour of Flanders is simply staggering! And in the 2010 edition of the Paris-Roubaix [which had been raced a few weeks earlier] Cancellara had casually 'rode away' from a group of top quality riders 50k from the finish line to secure a solo victory. This was no second-string bunch made up of domestiques and also-rans. It included the likes of Sylvain Chavanel, Stuart O'Grady, Filippo Pozzato and again, Tom Boonen - all highly capable and experienced pros. According to Boonen himself, after recovering from the initial shock of Cancellara's audacious attack, the group started to work together and were travelling at 55kph. Even so, Cancellara was still going away from them! [by the end of the race he had put 4 minutes into his competitors!] To distance a chasing group of top guys all working together like that takes a remarkable effort. And the ease at which Cancellara did this does beggar belief.
@laurentwarnon4413 жыл бұрын
Boonen was top and fit that year. He beat his own record on this climb and looks like a child compared to the motorman... So how can the swiss cheater drop so easily a top tom boonen who climbed faster than the other years...
@thesoultwins722 жыл бұрын
@@laurentwarnon441 ........Hi Laurent - yes I was very suspicious of Cancellara in both the P-R and Tour of Flanders as I said. Of course, we will probably never know the 'truth' but to drop an extremely strong rider such as Tom Boonen in that manner - just doesn't seem 'correct'.
@bellavia511 ай бұрын
It is cause for suspicion.
@andresbravo7049 ай бұрын
Nada para extrañarse. La "Locomotora de Berna" fue 2 veces Campeón Olímpico de Contrarreloj (2008 y 2016) y pudo haber sido 3 veces (sufrió una caída en el Gran Fondo de Londres, 2012 ). El suizo, uno de los mejores clasicómanos y contrarrelojistas de la historia. Eso es todo.
@raganwald8 жыл бұрын
Cancellara "motors" ahead? I see what you did there.
@Angel-gn2on8 жыл бұрын
Cancellara is monster, Boonen is outclassed so dont talk rubish.
@3vimages4718 жыл бұрын
+Jojo Labuguen You can even work out where Sparticus turned on his motor! Are you blind?
@JamieSmith-fz2mz7 жыл бұрын
It's completely unnatural to simply accelerate away from your nearest competitor on that pitch and open up that big of a gap without a bit of anguish on your face. He looks so effortless - like he's waiting for an oil change. Sorry, but there is no such thing as Superman.
@gempidge7 жыл бұрын
After thinking again, I think he was just switching on the radio. But what song, gives such motivation? Pray, do tell...
@bernardhinault93776 жыл бұрын
You can see boonen actually runs into the wall with his front tire, right as the commmentator says Aww, that is what makes the gap so staggering.
@rudymerckx74246 жыл бұрын
Well..as a belgian who has followed pro cycling for 50 years now...I had never seen this kind of "acceleration" ..twice in a matter of 7 days...2010..both times Cancellara...1 in RVV...1 in Roubaix....What bothers me the most in RVV are his numerous bike changes...clearly they were planned and the exchanges were done to perfection. I have seen a ton of RVV and Roubaix.....and I can tell you that in these classics in full "finale" bike changes ONLY take place if something breaks on the original bike. Even pro's will tell ya....In Roubaix...well..yes..the group was looking at each other ..true..so if you reference his speed to those 3 or 4 riders it seems like he's flying...but I do not reference it at those 3-4...I just observe the sudden ( I mean like lightning quick) enormous increase in cadence ..even as he"s looking backward and the Boonen group not exactly going slow ( one long queue). Within seconds of what should be a huge effort he looks back and keeps it all looking just a little bit too smooth for me. BTW..companies have been experimenting with electrical "in frame" motors for years..one canadian company even has their setup with SRAM..lol......oops...coincidence or not. Am I against Cancellara ?...far from..I consider him half a flandrien and a beast indeed. But these 2 moments were "super human" or at least to this day that is how I remember them....because they seemed truly effortless. And I have seen hundreds of "demarrages" by equally talented one-day-classic riders in these 2 classics.....in all those I WITNESSED GREAT PHYSICAL EFFORT with a totally different body language.
@pato209956 жыл бұрын
In Roubaix he looked like one the camera motors was passing the group. Like he pushed the throttle
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
Then Chris Froome did it twice, 2013 Ventoux and 2015 PSM
@DanielSong394 жыл бұрын
Also for long range attacks, see Floyd Landis 2006 Tour and Chris Froome 2018 Giro
@schattelux14543 жыл бұрын
sorr looser
@notreally24062 жыл бұрын
@@DanielSong39 On an up and down course a great climber can open the gap on each climb and hold that gap on the descents
@magnitogorski9 жыл бұрын
Madre mia Cancellara-Boonen tete a tete. Ataque impresionante en el mejor escenario posible. Momento mítico ya del ciclismo. Bestial. Ojalá vuelva a este nivel para 2015 y veamos una Vlaanderen espectacular. Espero ver a Wellens ahí en la pelea.
@YoutubSUCKZ2 жыл бұрын
te gusta el motociclismo?
@bibialan60719 ай бұрын
@@YoutubSUCKZ y a ti chupar no? Suckz
@mpereirawolf5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Michael-gu5lt5 жыл бұрын
If anyone believes that, the reason is very simple, they have never pedal in their life. And especially on cobblestone and worst up a wall at almost 20%
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how people still aren't able to see the pure fraude shown here
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
At the time of the race, bikes weren't checked for mechanical doping. Do you even bike, bro?
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
Makes it only stranger that you have no clue of bike check ups at races of that time
@devidia7 жыл бұрын
bro
@pato209956 жыл бұрын
About 10-20 bikes of the 400 are checked in most races, some races check up to 200 bikes, but never all of them
@pato209956 жыл бұрын
And yea they started doing it in 2013, screening randomly around 10-20 bikes in 2013, they started checking more intensively from 2018 on.
@jordimaxwell2 жыл бұрын
He was speculated to have illegal support in his pedalling. Its so steep and yet he just sat on his saddle like nothing happened and then he looked down to his bike at the top of the climb.
@gempidge8 жыл бұрын
Around 2.37, you can see Cancerella's doing something... right before he takes off. Funny how on the bits of the slope where EVERYONE else has to stand up in the saddle, Cancerella remains comfortably seated.
@gempidge8 жыл бұрын
MERE CONJECTURE: That he uses an electric motor. FACT: You find many videos in which he makes strange hand movements right before he attacks FACT: You can find many videos where he is doing an attack on steep climbs, and he is the only one who doesn't rise out of the saddle. FACT: There is no actual proof Cancerella has broken the rules. FACT: Swiss people are awesome, Switzerland is awesome.
@gempidge8 жыл бұрын
Tamhas B although it is rather hard to believe that such a tiny battery could do any good for more than about 5 seconds. Probably more likely that Cancerella is just a god on two wheels now that i think about it. If there was battery that good in existence, why hasn't Apple put one in my iPhone?
@tobi-sui61338 жыл бұрын
haha you are joking... but believe me i hate nothing more than cheaters in cycling. An if cancellara would cheat I can't believe they would have found it out. And he didn't win all the other classic races so there might be some races who perfectly fit to him. His legs might have more power, so he doesn't have to rise out of the saddle. But I'm not an expert... Are you from belgium?
@szalaydaniel86318 жыл бұрын
+Tamhas B A few notes: He is just switching gears before the attack. Rising out of the saddle means a higher heart rate = faster lactate buildup. In this video Boonen is struggling already at the bottom of the hill; he gets out of the saddle a lot, which happens often when somebody cannot keep up. Cancellara looks fresh from the beginning of the hill, holds a high cadence consistently and powers through. Just take a look at the cadence difference from 2:23. My opinion: Spartacus is a beast.
@danielabrams75878 жыл бұрын
+Tamhas B No motor here. Look at his cadence! Cancellara is spinning his tits off!
@chrisbrodroy11836 ай бұрын
I rode up the Muur myself this year for the first time and my respect for those guys just exploded…just like i did fighting these cobbles
@StopTheRot14 күн бұрын
This brings back memories of being dropped by an elderly woman on an e-bike with a couple of baguettes in her basket. Looks very similar.
@SongDen6 жыл бұрын
Impossible to give such a gap against a strong rider like Boonen
@claudiobini77114 жыл бұрын
Analoga considerazione in una tappa in cui fu staccato Peter Sagan . Il modo con cui Cancellara superò Sagan che peraltro era in in piena forma è e rimane sospetto .
@musiccorner6377 Жыл бұрын
tom boonen was dead at that moment
@alessiodoardo83523 жыл бұрын
Sapete dirmi che marca aveva di motore elettrico Cancellara...
@michaelvstheworld36809 ай бұрын
I still remember watching this, screaming "BULLSHIT!"
@skinny557727 жыл бұрын
It should be pretty easy to estimate the power for the attack by comparing his time to one of the Strava segments and that rider's power and weight. It's so steep that the environmental variables are probably negligible. I can try but it might take me a while since I know nothing about that climb.
@mikehall660814 күн бұрын
Have you figured it out yet?
@trinerd7 ай бұрын
That was bullshit. That gap was like 12 seconds after 20 seconds of racing. Boonen never cracked. Yeah, super suspicious.
@fewcruit48 жыл бұрын
2:35
@chrisvillanueva41258 жыл бұрын
how did he do that? unbelievable
@Starrynova4 жыл бұрын
Doped bike
@gajupla67878 жыл бұрын
impossible de tourner les jambes comme ça !!!
@mcycliste21445 жыл бұрын
Exactement, j'habite à 10 bornes de Gramont. Et à cette endroit c'est totalement illogique que cancelara se met à faire du 100 t/m alors qu'avant il à une fréquence de 70. De plus il accélère comme une moto Boonen qui fait une très bonne montée est au sprint et de fait déposer. Et ce suisse traite ces détracteurs comme un certain Texan avant lui. Vivement le jour où un mécanicien balancera le morceau.
@remibazin49754 жыл бұрын
je ne sais pas ce qui a du se passer dans la tete de boonen.
@alfpacino26303 жыл бұрын
@@remibazin4975 la sensation d'avoir pris un coup de vieux!
@alfpacino26303 жыл бұрын
avec Froom, il forme la génération, j'attaque le cul sur la selle en pleine montée!
@maxsan49912 жыл бұрын
Meme pour un simple amateur de vélo, ca se voit a l'oeil nu que ce n'est pas credible. Boonen etait au top, il s'arrache sur sa machine pour essayer d'avancer tant bien que mal, et l'autre a coté assis sur sa selle qui lui met 20 mètres en l'espace de 60 metres.
@QiuyuanChenRyan9167 жыл бұрын
Was that the year Fabian won on ZIpp 303? Boonen seems still old fashioned on wheels at the time.
@stephanelavoie2258Ай бұрын
Didn’t know about motor in the bike could exist at that moment and as i was watching this i said to my self : how is he accelerating so fast with Boonen fighting with is bike , the rest is history!
@davidfernandez97916 жыл бұрын
This is at least suspicious. Boonen is dying on his bike meanwhile Cancellara pedals away easily.
@abone2pick2 жыл бұрын
Yeah because he's a time trial specialist and has spend hundred of hours riding in that position
@sebastian71123 жыл бұрын
My god what a performance. What a massive gap. Opened up in a matter of seconds.
@sebastianlecourt1366Ай бұрын
"Prepare for LUDICROUS SPEED."
@1101grayzer6 жыл бұрын
It's very clear what he does at 2:37. The gradient gets steeper, Boonen starts to feel it, Cancellara changes down a gear, his cadence increases and he doesn't need to get out of the saddle.
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
Sean Gray cadence tend to increase when you shift down...
@MrBerndwiekema4 жыл бұрын
Sean Gray you’re probably right. Cancellara was the strongest rider at that time. Not fair to accuse him of technical fraude.
@championthewonderhorse97333 жыл бұрын
At the vert moment Sean Kelly says that attacking sitting in the saddle is the best way to attack the climb too...
@ChuckD593 жыл бұрын
I've stepped through that part a couple times and I agree (but I do think there are better examples of pros and electric assist). Right through the 2:37 mark, if you go frame by frame, it's clear their cadences had been matched but C drops his right shoulder a bit and his cadence increases, just as would happen if one were to downshift. He's off the hook in my book, and a veritable monster.
@TurboDally6 жыл бұрын
So in 60 seconds (give or take a few seconds) the guy pulled away around 250 meters, he's moving 4 meters PER SECOND FASTER than the other guy- in other words a good 9mph quicke- that's quite a big difference in speed.
@felicienbourdin8406 жыл бұрын
TurboDally think twice about it ... if I have an advance of lets say 50meters at the end of the hill, during the time my opponent runs at low speed completing the hill, I go way faster than him on the flat/descent portion and when he reaches the top I could have 250meters of advance ! so do again your calculation takin this into account
@nicolasdelaforge74207 ай бұрын
It depends on the form of the riders. In another commentary, Cancellara was climbing just a tiny bit faster than the record holder on the hill, Naesen, who was not a star rider overall. So, if he were on the road that day, Cancellara would have had but a small margin on him. Perhaps Boonen was not at his best. There are so many considerations - who knows? But Cancellara had such immense power, this could have been the greatest week of his career.
@paulsolon6229 Жыл бұрын
Electrical motor Cancellara?
@fredericfrere72513 жыл бұрын
Cancellara pioche déjà aux pied du mur dans la roue de Boonen et la différence est trop importante quand il attaque
@bergsteirer8 жыл бұрын
Everything clear to see.....motor use. This bike doping really gets ridicolous.
@pahouseholder6 жыл бұрын
Wow. You can see why folks think he was motorized. That little flick of the fingers of his right hand as he rode away at 2:37 was saying, "Bye, Tom!"
@henseleric Жыл бұрын
Right, he downshifted into a lower gear, and rode away from a blown Boonen. Occam's Razor.
@musiccorner6377 Жыл бұрын
yes he turned his gear whot you see i think your on the dope
@adityagupta101Ай бұрын
Did they have motors and batteries small enough to fit in the seat tube back in those days?
@christophermoyer6103Ай бұрын
Not off-the-shelf, but if one was willing to spend the bucks for something high-end and custom made, probably yes
@adityagupta101Ай бұрын
@@christophermoyer6103 very similar footage of one girl who cheated with motor in seat tube. She literally motored off on steep incline... However I reckon there is at least 10-15 years between the 2 incidents. So curious if the tech was as advanced back in the day
@christophermoyer6103Ай бұрын
@@adityagupta101 I agree it looks similar. And it stands to reason that FC, as one of the best cyclists in the world, would have access to cutting edge technology (including illicit methods of performance enhancement) significantly before lesser riders such as the Belgian cyclocrosser none of us had heard of until she got caught red-handed with a motorized bicycle The more I watch that clip of FC pulling away from Boonen, the more convinced I am that it's a case of cheating. Combine that with his numerous and unconventional bike changes and I think it's naive to believe that nothing illicit took place.
@talep51805 жыл бұрын
Look the cancellara's right hand at 2:36.
@allan49229 ай бұрын
Unreal.
@user-ye7su5of7c5 жыл бұрын
Sings: Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmm'
@ivangomezdiaz26514 жыл бұрын
He starts the engine in the minute 2:18. The pedal changes completely.
@championthewonderhorse97333 жыл бұрын
Or he just changes down a gear to something lower...
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
@@championthewonderhorse9733 lol right. these comments are so fucking stupid. Cancellara probably just had better gearing
@johanbaertie9 жыл бұрын
De muur has to come back to the race!!!! Much more exciting.
@Trekki6112 жыл бұрын
i very hope that the uci will the muur take to the race it belongs back. here's a german friend of the muur, theres no ronde without it...
@100cucimata Жыл бұрын
Cancellara's bikes were quite particular ...
@tim3d716Ай бұрын
Had Cancellara an E-bike?🔋
@kajakmannen16662 жыл бұрын
Is this the race when Cancellara changed his bike 3-4 times? Wonder why!! The attack looks very unnatural given the fact that he must have produced well over 1000w sitting in the sadle.
@Alpenmagier2 жыл бұрын
People just like to hate. Boonen himself was riding that part of the race faster then cancellara in the year before.
@imraanmajiet10585 жыл бұрын
Oliver Naesen has the current Muur strava record at 2 minutes 50 during the binck banck tour when he was off peak. Here Boonen and cancellara hit the Muur at 20 seconds and boonen summits at around 3:25 which is around 3 minutes on boonens side. Not putting it past cancellara in his prime to have done 2:40ish then extended his gap in the downhill without a motor.
@nicolasdelaforge74207 ай бұрын
If your figures are right, this is the best analysis so far. Cancellara would have been much stronger than Naesen, and Boonen was actually slower than you would normally allow such a great rider. Great work.
@abedfo885 жыл бұрын
miss Dave Harmon so much
@gnarkillMTB9 ай бұрын
Motor in the frame
@Fennefar5 жыл бұрын
Again 2:38 what happens with the right hand?? Not a gear change but it is interesting in that year how before acceleration in Flanders and Roubaix he touches the same area on the bike.
@jameswillett1185 жыл бұрын
Just doesn’t look right 🤔
@scallybombchucker6 жыл бұрын
Phil Gaimon brought me here!
@aikman216 жыл бұрын
me 2 and if you look close on 2:53/4 you see the same handling being done like on 2:38/9 exactly the moment when he has the gap and is trough the steepest part of the Muur ... i know people can do extraordinary things but that far into a race like the tour off flanders and knowing he is easily doing it from the saddle places big question marks ... I always admired him as a person but his recent twitter war and the way he is doing it reminds me about a certain texan kid who also was yelling he wasn't doing something , nevertheless we will never know for sure what happend what we have seen :D
@TheSteinbitt5 жыл бұрын
Yep, he tried to sell a book latching on to the coat tails of real cyclist and some idiots bought it...
@MrMarolles Жыл бұрын
He made that gap in seconds, whilst Boonen was still going pretty quickly, not possible with out a motor.
@reneflippe3286 Жыл бұрын
Can you prove ? If not sh1t up !
@musiccorner6377 Жыл бұрын
whahhaha whot a idiots in this world , you boonen struggled meter by meter in the and to get ont top
@rhyslloyd61253 ай бұрын
The day of the motor 🛵
@oceanedetotesАй бұрын
After this ride, they added E-bike on Strava.
@user-rm1xg9yg9p23 күн бұрын
Is that Dave Harmon commentating with Kelly?
@hugoz1187 Жыл бұрын
On lui a toujours pas retiré ses titres au motard suisse ?
@nmal63714 жыл бұрын
C'est bien Spart'accu son surnom ?
@tbcyable3 жыл бұрын
"Spark Plug" accu
@spabcn12 жыл бұрын
@MortalShowdown That could be a good explanation
@goonballer17 күн бұрын
Ghost in the machine
@RickBeckler3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t someone do a theoretical calculation on the amount of power put down by Cancellara? It would show that 30 seconds gap on Boonen is impossible.
@JumpingWatermelons3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Either Specialized or Team Saxo bank did release some of Fabian's power data from that day. The max power was 1,450 watts, presumably duing that attack.
@abone2pick2 жыл бұрын
Cancellaras time up that hill isn't even the fastest . I think the Kom up that hill is like 3 seconds faster than what cancellara did.
@user-mt9rt3zm7n4 жыл бұрын
カンチェのアタック凄すぎ😊 ボーネンの名勝負数え歌ww
@andrearota29762 жыл бұрын
1450w? Which brand is his bike's engine? 😂
@ChuckD596 жыл бұрын
There's far more convincing evidence elsewhere in cycling of mechanical "doping" (Hesjedal). I see the tactic of burning up Boonen in the first part, forcing him to lead for a bit then crushing him on the final part. And I see Cancellara shifting up as he launches his attack, nothing more. He is a beast, no question.
@brianramzoti29539 ай бұрын
That is a f*cking shame. 100% motor
@mcycliste21445 жыл бұрын
Cancelara 100 rpm in Gramont 😂
@Angelo_Botta5 жыл бұрын
Fabian Cancellectric
@jamisdelsol57615 жыл бұрын
it was not for nothing that he had a mechanical groupet the bateri and the engine would not have entered the vertical tube, which more is obliged to mounted sitting in the wall if the wheel sliding
@QiuyuanChenRyan9165 жыл бұрын
Anyone realized at this moment Fabian is riding a pair of Zipp 303 and Boonen is still on the aluminum? For a zipp owner, I can say those are some of the nicest designed wheels, particularly when it gets a bit bumpy.
@Kanonka2823 күн бұрын
Motor engin worked well.
@dickieblench50017 ай бұрын
Post bike change
@Jan-se1nd8 ай бұрын
I bought it then as a massive Cancellara fan. Today? Not so much. I've watched a lot of RvV since and this just looks unnatural.
@chrisdeluca6577Ай бұрын
He turned up gas alright
@RandomUsername34Ай бұрын
Cancelara.was working harder in the beginning of the climb the he was on the steep part while attacking.
@Bad_Gnasher Жыл бұрын
Sadly you'll never see a better example of motor doping.
@Michael-hm8csАй бұрын
Froome in every single one of his TDF wins
@Bad_Gnasher29 күн бұрын
@@Michael-hm8cs got a link?
@43gillou5 жыл бұрын
Y a pas à dire c'est efficace le moteur !!!!!!
@santosleandro19557 жыл бұрын
Right hand at 2:37...nun said!
@Juan00036 жыл бұрын
2:43 Bonnen does the same. What nun?
@ahhhhhhhDestroyed6 жыл бұрын
Ever riden a bike? he changed gear.
@championthewonderhorse97333 жыл бұрын
Literally the moment Sean Kelly says the best way to attack the climb is sitting in the saddle and Cancellara does just that...
@bo2web8 жыл бұрын
Lithium Cancellara ????
@albertohernandez3606Ай бұрын
Amazing climb and E -bike 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@Chris-dy7hk4 жыл бұрын
2:35 he turns on the motor. There is no way he puts a gap in like that on a rider like Boonen, cramps or no cramps. This is not natural. There is no way to push that kind of wattage, it's physically impossible. Not to mention just watching the video, it's obvious. Cancellara did this too many times, unbelievable he was never caught.
@matthiasrichter31124 жыл бұрын
Indeed, with his right hand. We can see it on the movie.
@serdiezv3 жыл бұрын
@@matthiasrichter3112 That's just shifting, if they never caught him, with the suspicion being there it means he wasn't cheating
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
@@serdiezv this
@Tha-King-Arthur3 жыл бұрын
Look at his left hand at 2.37 min.
@JonLeonardF103 жыл бұрын
Boonen vs. cancellara These days van Der poel vs. van ert Classic specialists. excellent races
@errbud3 жыл бұрын
We should have Remco Evenepoel in the mix next year as well exciting times
@marcobracci790523 күн бұрын
He was turning the gas Ho yes
@alexgrytsenko858 жыл бұрын
There is no proof that he used mechanical doping. But I can't believe that Bonen couldn't answer Cancellara. They had been riding together and for one moment Cancellara said good-bye. Sitting on the saddle by the way... That was very strange. I like Spartacus and I don't want to believe that his victory was unfair.
@DanielSong398 жыл бұрын
No matter how good you are, if you put in a sudden acceleration on a steep upslope on the cobbles, the bike will sway. I have no idea how Cancellara violated basic laws of physics here.
@DolleHengst4 жыл бұрын
Cancellara weighed 90kg. On a steep climb, with a seated rider, most of that weight will rest on the rear axle, giving the rear wheel extra traction. And a higher cadence gives a rider more control over the bike.
@Bayo1063 жыл бұрын
you obviously know nothing about cycling.
@nicolasdelaforge742023 күн бұрын
Cancellara had a smaller gear - that's huge, and if they were equal, Cancellara would have won because of it. But they were not equal, Cancellara was, a this time, better.
@Michael-gu5lt5 жыл бұрын
The unfamous hidden motor!
@tristanomoresi2014Ай бұрын
Cancellara with E-Bike
@richardhedd30808 ай бұрын
Cancellara changed bikes 3 times during the race none of which was because of a mechanical or flat tire. Just saying.
@scandinavianboys43438 ай бұрын
Motor
@MortalShowdown12 жыл бұрын
@spabcn I am sorry actually Cancellara did attack but Boonen had cramps as well. So it was like double trouble for him.