Cancelled - Titanic 2

[@kierancalder8573]

I think the Titanic 2 has a serious business case, even if it just stayed as a floating museum, it could travel around the world to port cities. Guaranteed to be a huge hit wherever it stopped and you would never have to worry about it getting old for the locals since you'd just move it.

[@VanillaMacaron551]

Sure but don't let Clive Palmer anywhere near it.

[@countlitmogaphil392]

Woahhh, and atleast a small part of it as a super luxurious and expensive hotel... Bruh I wish I had the money to build this 😂

[@charlesyoung7436]

I toured the SS "United States" and attended the week long auction of its furnishings in 1984 at a pier in Norfolk, VA. She was the fastest liner ever built, with over four times the horsepower of the "Titanic" (being government subsidized as a potential military troopship). She's about a hundred feet longer, and slightly broader, but weighs less due to her aluminum superstructure. After being towed to Turkey where she was gutted and the asbestos used in her construction was removed, she was returned to Philadelphia where a group is trying to save her from the scrapyard. I have often thought it would have been easy to convert her into a "Titanic" replica due to the similarity in the size of both vessels. Modifying the sharply raked bow of the "United States" to look like the vertical bow of "Titanic" would bring her length down, and using only one of her two boiler rooms to power two of the four propellers would still allow her to make more speed than a modern cruise ship. I'd really love to see the "United States" preserved, in one form or another.

[@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621]

They're actually planning to build a replica in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. It would only be the front half and would only be a floating museum, but it would probably be a big hit. There's a Titanic museum in Halifax and its also where a lot of the graves for Titanic victims are located.

[@rebl7355]

"a huge hit" nice choice of words monkaS

[@gerardcollins80]

It's an utter shame the Olympic was not preserved in permanent dock like the Queen Mary.

[@dharmayodha4436]

Irs true but you know whole world was facing economic crises in great depression. So they had to dismantling it

[@izu1525]

problem is that while the titanic and britannic disasters were tragic, they were just big ships at the end of the day, and the olympic had been outclassed multiple times by the end of her life. she was just an ordinary luxury liner. only with the titanic movie the ship gained the traction it holds today. think of it like the costa concordia today. if someone decides to make a movie about it in 2097 it would probably be the same in 100 years

[@BombIran1980]

@@izu1525true

[@grandpa__gohan919]

​@izu1525 titanic was always a big deal, not just after the movie, heck if your referring to the james Cameron movie that wasn't even the first film about the titanic it was like the 4th . The ship was always hyped

[@GeraltofRizziaa]

I think they kept the dining hall intact and it’s now a restaurant.

[@KSI_Revelations]

The RMS Olympic is a legendary ship with a legendary history, and should have Never been scrapped.

[@ivywt]

true

[@deadlyplumjellyproductions]

true but think of it from the white star's perspective. its the great depression. the rms olympic is sailing with less than 20% capacity, and youre loosing money from it. it's also becoming out dated, and so, being in need of money, they scrap it. of couse we got to save some parts but back then keeping it as museam ship just wouldnt have made sense. although i would like to see it today if it still existed

[@MicklowFilms]

Agreed, they should have kept that one and would’ve been the closest thing to experiencing Titanic as you can get.

[@MicklowFilms]

@@deadlyplumjellyproductions You would think they would’ve kept the one lucky ship that survived out of the all the ones they sank. As a historical landmark at least in honor of Titanic victims. SS United States still sits at a port in Philadelphia. I imagine the same could’ve been done with Olympic.

[@deadlyplumjellyproductions]

@@MicklowFilms well not really. The SS United States was built in the 50s, not during the Great Depression, when the White Star Line was in desperate need of money. By then, other ocean liners heavily outdated the Olympic class ship.

[@tayzonday]

The biggest cruise ships now are much larger than the Titanic. It would lose money to build a ship that way instead of the floating hotels that are most popular.

[@Captain-Palsy]

Not in 1912

[@robertfletcher3421]

Or would it be like luxury trains like the Venice-Simplon Orient Express?

[@miamidolphinsfan]

you are missing the whole point of it....the EXPERIENCE of being as close one can get to the iconic experience of being in 1912

[@Round_Slinger]

They were going for an authentic looking titanic, not looking for the most revenue.

[@Round_Slinger]

@@miamidolphinsfan Exactly 💯

[@Interitus1]

That's my biggest problem with anything Titanic related. People forget that this is an actual story about people who died. I've been to the Titanic graveyard in Halifax. It's a solemn place. There are graves of children, of literally entire families.

[@XenaBe25]

Agreed. I read about weird Leo DiCaprio fangirls visiting that place, thinking that the character was true to the real Jack Dawson... just no. I don't mind that the writers tweaked some of the details to make the story more relatable, tho. I like that they went to so much trouble to point out the horriffic classism that killed so many innocent women and children. I like the nod the movie gave to the Captain and the shipbuilder. I liked the (fictionalized) reference to the French Revolution in the story of the diamond. I loved the sets and the COSTUME PORN. Anything set between 15thc and WWII if it's well done. I love old architecture and clothing :) But I know the difference between reality and movies.

[@yuvalzauberman5178]

@@XenaBe25 the passengers on the titanic didn’t board the boats by class. In fact, the crew actually did their best to allow easier access for third class to the boat deck. Actually almost all men of second class died while some of third class survived. The reason so many people from third class died is because their section was located far beneath the boat deck so they couldn’t find their way up. The crew did their best to help them tho.

[@AlydiaRackham]

@@yuvalzauberman5178 YES. That's exactly right. The crew had no desire to see ANYONE drown.

[@DeerBonesBaby]

@@yuvalzauberman5178 but the fact that the 3rd class was so far below deck WAS classism. Not even mentioning how the doors were locked periodically to stop them from mingling with the upper class. Of course the crew didn't want anyone to die, it was just the set up of the boat itself that lead to some unfortunate deaths

[@Sombre____]

You know, Castle is also story about people who died.

[@Hiro_Trevelyan]

If anyone is interested, there's a project to entirely recreate her virtually, in the game "Titanic Honour and Glory". They're doing an incredible job at investigating the real Titanic to recreate her perfectly, as she was. It's also much more affordable than a cruise, as long as your computer can run it.

[@tareskisloki8579]

Plus you can see parts of the ship that would never be allowed on a real cruise.

[@derekheeps1244]

Titanic did not 'do' cruises : she was an Ocean Liner and designed to transport people between continents .

[@tareskisloki8579]

@@derekheeps1244 cruise/voyage, it's just semantics in this application. The context of a ship on a journey remains the same.

[@leejamiemellor]

@@derekheeps1244actually she was a mail ship, thats literally her name, she just happened to carry passengers too💀

[@supers0nic77]

​@@leejamiemellor all that poor mail, RIP

[@microsoftpain]

I remember hearing about this back in 2016. I used to be fascinated with the Titanic growing up and was excited to see where this would go. Year after year, the maiden voyage kept getting delayed. I'm not really surprised that it's not going anywhere. Maybe it's the world's way of saying: "Don't do this," given the ship's tragic end.

[@Bertramel]

Same

[@AnEverydayGamer]

I remember hearing about it in 2012 and thought it would be amazing

[@Genius_at_Work]

It always was a only a Scheme to scam Investors

[@RubyMVmistress]

Yup yup, back in 2012 I heard about it and later put money down for it. So I could go on it. I mean that was like 10 years ago. I would've really love to go on it though.

[@gerardeggenburger5386]

Same

[@wolfmoonstudios7901]

Honestly... I'd love to sail on a replica of her, with all honor and respect to those who were lost while I'm sailing. But if we could even just get a 1:1 scale recreation and have it dedicated as museum and such, that would be pretty cool too - but not a hotel/museum. Just a straight out museum. Not just a handful of rooms, but the whole ship. To be able to see how it was. Because currently the real ship is degrading faster and faster. Some estimates put the wreck as disappearing by 2030.

[@PRRS08]

I would seriously love that. To be able to walk thru the ship. Ahhh I'd never sleep on a remake. It would feel wrong

[@Igstormchaser]

Closest thing we have is the museum in Tennessee

[@cds401]

The real ship is just a huge rust bucket by now

[@shannynmartin3157]

To be fair, I've read that the wreck isn't actually going to disappear anytime soon. Apparently that is just something James Cameron says to get money for more dives to the wreck. Most of the wreck should remain intact for at least the next hundred years.

[@jamescrab4110]

Il remind you in 8 years if its still there.

[@enterprisespatton6549]

Here’s an idea: if you build a replica, don’t turn it into a cruise ship. Rather, turn it in a museum to show people what it was like for a lot of passengers struggles to escape the ocean liner. If you do it, do it in its birth place and do it by the company who originally built it (Harland & Wolff) the fee for the museum would go strictly to pay for maintenance of the museum and preservation of artifacts. It’s better then doing it the wrong way.

[@rainbow_dust57]

There's something kinda like that in pigeon forge TN

[@enterprisespatton6549]

@@rainbow_dust57 is it just a museum or is it a simulator? Either way, I get what you mean. my idea would probably be too costly, so the one in Tennessee is one of the closest things we got to what I was thinking of

[@rainbow_dust57]

@@enterprisespatton6549 yeah, its a museum

[@Eddie-mo2wu]

I'd probably have either a panic attack or a nerdy breakdown the second I stepped on board. That being said I think that's one of the best ways to go about it- the ship already gives off a semi-ominous vibe, just due to us knowing how it all ends, so why not harness it?

[@pumpkensdiapers1417]

This is an awesome idea!

[@Auxiliary88]

As someone who lived in a town that had a mine owned by Clive Palmer. That project was doomed, the guy cuts and runs leaving debts behind him.

[@rogersmith7396]

Trump?

[@AussieTVMusic]

@@rogersmith7396 Trump like. He spent $100 million on the last election and didn't win one seat.

[@thepolishnz]

typical Palmer. 'we don't want to give money to China!'. also Palmer. I'm using a Chinese company to do this

[@barrydysert2974]

i read the other comments and feel badly for you all. Business and politics have always had greedy, nasty, rotten portions. Put all that power in one place }TRUMP{ and you create a black hole in your society. i can feel my country, the Great Melting Pot dis-integrate around me. Thank God you good people didn't cross the event horizon like we did!!! May God grant you the wisdom we learned too late! 💜🙏⚡️

[@zachlee3945]

Channels Trump so much that he has billboards of him that has "make Australia great" all over the place.

[@lumberc]

This one hurt, I remembered being so hyped for this

[@twiztidyournutz]

Because Titanic 1 was a good idea? If you like insurance fraud, I guess. Sink the already damaged Olympic, call it Titanic. No one will know.

[@twiztidyournutz]

@@tonewheel1773 😶 bhole of a dude sounds like

[@ghosticmystic]

James Cameron has done so much work on the titanic, he has so many documentaries investigating it and talking to descendants about how he portrayed their ancestors and what he got right and wrong and how while it was a romanticized story he wanted it to be as accurate as possible to history. It's how they discovered what happened to the main grand staircase.

[@L33tSkE3t]

I think people don’t realize, compared to modern Cruise Ships, Titanic is comparatively small and would likely be less than smooth sailing compared to the massive floating city sized ships of today.

[@m.williams4971]

Can you quantitate “less than smooth sailing”, and if you don’t mind my asking what are your qualifications? Not to mention the function of this ship isn’t to become a massive port-to-port cruise ship anyway.

[@GeraltofRizziaa]

The titanic was built for Trans-Atlantic travel while today’s modern cruise ships are built for port to port travel.

[@richardgrace5043]

@@m.williams4971 you dont need "experience" to understand juat a brain, some common sense and a kindergarten level understanding of hydrodynamic...

[@starchild7820]

Titanic was enormous what are u talking about it was one of the largest city wide ship in the entire world u can see it from a town 100 miles down

[@hevendor958]

*Titanic is even smaller than many of the largest ships, even compared to the longest vessel, Seawise Giant*

[@msdemeanor3797]

I'm Australian and I can safely say that Clive Palmer is full of it; lots of announcements but no action. Ever.

[@kosh6612]

I was shocked che3cking on it recently the hull had been laid.. totally shocked

[@tjoonatv2848]

@@kosh6612 Different project. Clive's ship never left paper. The one being built is another Titanic replica for a theme park which is still in progress. However, it will never sail.

[@luckygamer4564]

Agreed

[@springbok4015]

That’s Clive Palmer, the “national treasure” he is.

[@STALINGRAD7]

Can you guys give him a huge punch in the face for this, my wife & i are huge titanic fans and i have been secretly planning on going on the ship since 2012 when they announced it. Kinda figured that this isn't happening around 2018. But being certain now, boils my blood. That fat bastard.

[@lorigarza9971]

I had hoped for years they would do this. Would have been so awesome to watch it sale into NY since the original never had a chance to. I think if they did this it would make a fortune in cruises for Titanic enthusiasts like myself. I have been fascinated with it since I was a kid.

[@judydenver5362]

But, The Olympic, her virtually identical TWIN, sailed into New York, all the time, as she was identical. I think she was more beautiful, because she lasted!

[@victorsamsung2921]

@@judydenver5362 Olympic .... also known as "the old reliable". Definitely my preferred choice as a name now for recreating the Olympic-class steamliner. Calling it Titanic II would create too much of a controversy on the actual ship that sank, and would perhaps amount to stamping on someone's grave. Since the Olympic was unfortunate in that it ended up as a victim of the Great Depression and got scrapped for its metal at a junkyard, but with an impeccable career as an oceanliner and troopship, would make it much more honorable as a service to recreate her. Also, following the sinking of the Titanic in 1912, the RMS Olympic went through a big refit as well. Including adding all the luxuries that Titanic had, like the Café Parisien etc. Knowing Titanic was about 1.000 tons heavier, but was soon equaled by Olympic during her refit.

[@nicoleyork2980]

I find it a bit disrespectful to the people that died on the original to be honest…

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[@derekheeps1244]

Olympic SAILED into New York many times ; along with Lusitania , Mauritania , and of course Aquitania , which was a larger ship than her two sisters and comparable in size to the Olympic class .

[@IndeedBeni]

Palmer's Titanic II was apparently designed by Deltamarin. They've designed a lot of cruise ships (the Oasis class for Royal Caribbean for example) and other ocean-going vessels and they're quite good at what they do, so that part of the project was legit at least.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Yeah it looks like it, it's just the business model that was completely broken...

[@ajplays7241]

We also would’ve had Twin Towers II if One WTC wasn’t created

[@derekheeps1244]

Designing cruise ships and ocean liners are two entirely different disciplines ; the only ocean liner in the world today is the RMS Queen Mary 2 ( the flagship of the Cunard Line ) and entirely different in design and purpose from a cruise ship . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Mary_2

[@adinacoomber1571]

Palmer is a special kind eccentric AH to be honest. He’s not quite a Trump clone, but he’d be in that quadrant

[@oufukubinta]

​@@derekheeps1244 It's not the only one - that's a gimmick. There's another one coming soon called Queen Anne

[@pelnapkins4379]

The depiction of Titanic sailing past the Twin Towers. Quite poignant that.

[@pinklightninggacha]

Doubt that's happening

[@pelnapkins4379]

@@pinklightninggacha sorry I should have said fictional portrayal.

[@dracodracarys2339]

3:14 welp, that aged like milk

[@zucchinicup]

As someone who grew up down the road from Palmer’s resort and remember constantly hearing about his batshit projects, I remember seeing ads for this on the back of my local newspaper. Doesn’t mean I still didn’t feel some sort of whiplash seeing him appear on my screen. Great video!

[@theexplodedguys264]

Nice

[@Ozymandias54]

It’s sad that many projects like these never end up happening.

[@Ozymandias54]

Oh my goodness I never expected there to be this many likes thanks everyone!

[@Vanessa-pu9dl]

it’s only 84.

[@Ozymandias54]

@@Vanessa-pu9dl that’s because every time I do a comment usually it barely gets any likes.

[@JoeWaylo]

Sad but true. The latest update on Wikipedia said "Palmer began to doubt the economic viability of the ship once initial interest and curiosity had worn off." There's even fan videos making jokes about Titanic returning even Jack coming back alive like a Zombie.

[@notnice94]

They were never planned to actually happen. It was just one big PR stunt, both times.

[@tombuck]

“Living National Treasure” is definitely going on my resume.

[@Areekurou]

I’m not a big believer in bad luck, but when it comes to Titanic I fully believe the ship and any projects having to do with it are jinxed. Obviously, the Titanic itself sunk and any projects wanting to build a 1:1 scale replica suddenly lose their funding at some point. There was a cruise remembering the 100th anniversary of the sinking that tried to sail on the exact days of Titanic’s maiden voyage and serving recreations of the first class menu in its restaurants but had to return to port only a day later because someone had a heart attack on the ship and, I believe, passed. Even James Cameron’s film ran into several issues: their food was somehow spiked with PCP sending both Cameron and Bill Paxton to the hospital, Kate Winslet got hypothermia and almost drowned, two stunt actors were almost crushed during the sinking scene, etc. I think it’s best to remember it for what it was - a tragedy - and not try to romanticize it by building a second Titanic or turn it into a theme park attraction.

[@mr.monocle4812]

Wise words

[@Ultimate_Lyfe]

and now the titan submarine

[@bsmccrunner4]

Who really cares? It is a tourist site now. Many “sacred” places are tourist sites. We learn and can enjoy them. Why should we forget

[@allybearbear]

I would love to see you do a video on Owens Lake, California. The entire town became a dust bowl after the Owens River was diverted to Los Angeles in the 1920s. The lakeside resort town was reduced to a decrepit mostly abandoned town in the desert. The town eventually sued the state over the bad air quality and won, so it costs millions of dollars a year to maintain it.

[@raven4k998]

next thing you'll see is someone trying to make a coasta Concordia 2 cruise ship🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ajvark]

Dang idk how James Cameron would follow that one up

[@kobra6660]

There's actually 3 titanic cartoon movies that exist and they're all awful

[@speedy7892]

Someone actually did make a Titanic II movie. I've seen some of it and it bombed HORRIBLY. I think you could find it on some streaming sites

[@Montoya2005]

Titanic II : Jacks Revenge

[@aresef]

There actually is a Titanic II movie. It’s a SyFy movie about a ship christened just that. It’s bananas.

[@omarbaba9892]

Asylum did😂 Twice

[@jouhanneus]

I really hoped that Palmer’s plans would come to fruition. I’m a Marine Engineer, and wanted to apply for an engineering position on Titanic II. My grandfather’s uncle survived the actual disaster, and I had a slim hope that that would give me a inner track to employment😄 Oh well.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titanic engine cylinder engineering room

[@leeriches8841]

He's a showman, full of empty promises and wacky ideas that would be impossible to see the light of day.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titani marine diesel fuel

[@jouhanneus]

@@leeriches8841 Yeah, I'm getting that impression… Apparently he's been hyping up several highfalutin projects in Australia and other places, that never turn into anything.

[@sheebathefunnyrescuedog692]

As an Australian I can tell you that Palmer is an embarrassment to this country.

[@roastedtoast9337]

When visiting Halifax in 2010, we went to the titanic museum and i have to say it was one of the most interesting things ive ever seen in my life. I may have only been 10 years old, but ill never forget being able to see an actual piece of the hull itself and some of the possessions of the people on board. Would highly recommend visiting if youre ever in the area !

[@angienorthey]

I remember when the wreck was discovered back in 1985 and how poor a state it was in. Over the years I've watched it deteriorate and I've always thought a replica should be made with the same interiors and fittings as on the original Titanic. As a history and Titanic nut, I would definitely visit it and sail on it.

[@toddkurzbard]

I do too. My father told me and I thought, "Yeah. Right. You're pulling my leg." I thought the same thing in December 1980 when he told me John Lennon (I'm a FANATICAL Beatles' fan) had been killed.

[@STALINGRAD7]

I would too.

[@jdrs4214]

I think the Titanic is better off being re-created virtually and graphically by brilliant video game developers. See “Titanic Honor and Glory.”

[@STALINGRAD7]

@@jdrs4214 well, thats the only feasible option we have rn.

[@opera_gangster]

I wholeheartedly agree. The Titanic is something I’ve spent my life researching about, and would do anything to stay or at least visit a replica with all the traditional fittings. However, who knows how feasible that would ever be. I’ve been to both the titanic museums, which as far as I’m aware are unfortunately the closest thing we have, but even those are nothing like you’d see in a true replica.

[@Adrian-wd4rn]

Biggest issue no one talks about. It's incredibly unlucky to give a ship the same name of a sunken ship, especially a ship that had many deaths. It's just bad juju, and I doubt they'd find a captain to sail it.

[@Sharon_L_W]

Ya. I’ve heard that sailors are very superstitious when it comes to the sea, and there are definitely things they consider bad luck. I imagine this would be right up there with things they wouldn’t go near.

[@staralchemist129]

Yeah it was always insane to me that TWO Essex-class carriers were named after sunken Yorktown-class carriers. But, hey, both of them are museums now

[@gregzucco2508]

@@staralchemist129Correct 2 Yorktown class carriers, Yorktown and Hornet were Essex Class Carriers, however Lexington & Wasp were also Essex class carriers named after sunken ships,numerous other ship, such as the Australian cruiser Canberra that was sunk however a new US Cruiser was named Canberra to honor on Australian allies.

[@brainstewX]

The biggest issue is superstition?

[@lilyhawthorne1196]

​@@brainstewXhey in some parts of the world people are willing to kill for superstition. They probably could find someone to do it, but I think for a lot of people boarding a replica of titanic just seems like tempting fate. I don't know if it's enough people to make a replica unprofitable, though

[@simplelifelost]

I completely agree with the complicated sentiments in this video. I would love to cross the Atlantic and sail into New York on RMS Titanic 2, but it’s also better to leave the great ship as a lesson of history. RIP RMS Titanic.

[@Kyolover8]

I'm honestly glad you did a video on this subject, Jake. I love anything having to do with the titanic and had always heard about the titanic 2 project and wondered what ever happened to the idea. It's good to get some kind of backstory and update on the projects. I honestly think it would be interesting to see it come to fruition even if it only becomes a museum or tribute to the original ship and those that sadly perished that night.

[@arsenal-slr9552]

Never underestimate how much people from Asia love the movie Titanic. I have many coworkers/ friends from Laos & Vietnam, and that movie makes them cry like little kids.

[@MyMusicSaves]

For anyone that wants to get the tiniest glimpse on the original ''feel'' of the White Star Line ships, have a look at Daniel ''Danny'' Adamson tugboat. Supposedly when the Olympic was refitted in the early 1930's some of the original leftover panelling went to this little ship and into it's ''grand staircase look''. After a massive conservation effort this little tugboat is now sailing round the UK and honestly a lovely little glimpse into how amazing the decor and design was part of the Olympic-class ships.

[@CameronM1138]

Also the SS Nomadic in Belfast. It's a much smaller ship built alongside the RMS Olympic to ferry passengers to and from the ship at Cherbourg, where the water was too shallow for the ship to come all the way into port. It had the same styles of furnishings and it's been fully restored to its original condition.

[@MyMusicSaves]

@@CameronM1138 Thanks for this comment! Put it on my to-do list when I next visit Belfast.

[@DanRelayer_Ukraine]

@@CameronM1138 yeah, it's the only surviving Thomas Andrews ship to date.

[@jurassicpeter]

Any replica of the Titanic, be it digital or real, should have a way to honor the lives lost on the original ship. Be that a memorial aboard a real vessel or a text-scroll in a video game. Its imortant to remember the story of the ship, but its more important to remember those who perished along with it

[@sillyphyllic]

I agree-

[@Eddie-mo2wu]

I had a whole nerd paragraph typed out here, then the 4 minute mark hit and it basically became a checklist. "Proper work began in 2012? Check.", "2016 maiden voyage plans? Double check." I haven't been obsessed with the Titanic and all it's goings-on since I was like, 12. I'm 20 now, and (probably due to that submarine) all of a sudden that little switch has been flicked back on. No matter the video, no matter how lengthy or in depth it is, I haven't been able to stop myself from clicking on it, and lo and behold, one of my favourite documentation channels already has a video on it.

[@mafiousbj]

I sent this video to a friend and he asked me "What did the Titanic do to get cancelled" as if in social media cancelling....had a laugh but then realized the ship actually killed hundreds when it sank so it may have motives to be "cancelled" Anyway excellent research and quality as usual Jake!!

[@farwolff]

What twitter does to a mf

[@jaydee5638]

What’d it do to get cancelled? Well..it hit an iceberg of course

[@bethanymiller1629]

I would pay for a cruise on a Titanic 2 should it be built. I would love much of the passenger areas to remain as similar as possible to the original ship(except maybe have free Wi-Fi for the guests), but have the modern safety features that modern cruise ships are built with.

[@oufukubinta]

Instead of the Marconi room it would be the WiFi room lol

[@juanmelendezrivera6085]

Rebuilding an antique luxury ship is too expensive. Who's going to ride on it? Let the name Titanic stay as part of history. Rest in peace.

[@Nafoon21]

One of my all time shipwrecks, followed by one of my all time favorite ridiculous reboot attempts. Extremely happy to see you cover this Jake

[@kellyl7688]

The Titanic Museum in Gatlinburg, TN recreated some of the interior of the Titanic. It was pretty amazing. I definitely recommend it!

[@todd718]

I think the same company owns the Titanic Museum in Branson, MO. It’s pretty interesting to visit.

[@judydenver5362]

Thank you so much for doing this Historical piece! I had searched recently, to see if I could find any information on both of these projects. I actually also heard about a 3rd one, another landlocked one, that i had seen on Google maps, but i guess it was cancelled. I wanted to hear this, MAINLY because, it is THE OLYMPIC, that I treasure, and cared about. NOT the Titanic. I breaks my heart, that no one had the wisdom, the forsight, to preserve that gorgeous ship!!! It was nearly identical to the Titanic, and pictures of it were often used, to show people what the Titanic looked like, even for reference photos for the Titanic film. The beautiful staircase, the irreplaceable woodwork, etc., etc., all carelessly destroyed at a scrapyard!!!! It turns my stomach!!! But The Olympic ship is the real star, of this line, as she survived and thrived for so long, even with a couple of collisions in her history. She made so many happy memories, and helped our troops, during the war, too. I really wish that you would do a whole feature on her, if you haven't, already, and i wish she would be honored more often than the Titanic, because the Titanic, unfortunately, is a grave, a cemetery, for over 1,500 people, never had any successful history, and was merely heavily romanitcised in a largely fictional movie. I'm glad you featured it. (The Olympic). I love hearing anything about her, because that Ship is the one that should have been saved, and possibly still being run, today, as an historical ship, or at the very least, protected and preserved, forever, like The Queen Mary, on dry land as a treasure, a museum. I have spent tons of time, on the Queen Mary. I love it!!! Even pretending to be on a voyage, with my wonderful, fun mother!!! Thanks again!!! 😀

[@tjmichaels5565]

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[@Hypersonic156]

I remember closely following this project when it was announced back in 2013 during my final year in high school. I WANTED this to happen so badly and I wanted to work as steward on the vessel. But seeing the delays did puzzle me and seeing Clive being the absolute lunatic that he is kinda worried me, but I STILL held on to hope that this would happen. I even got a Titanic II pin from some ausse seller on eBay and I treasured the hell out of it. To the point I would take a souvenir pin of a plane out of it’s little box and put the Titanic II pin in the box to preserve it. Nowadays I just roll my eyes and say to people ask me and I just say “no it’s not”. I remember at one point as well Clive Palmer actually criticised the Chinese government saying “the Chinese just shoot their own people” or something among those lines, granted he’s not exactly wrong. But I knew this would be REALLY bad news for the Titanic II

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

No, clive is even wrong about the shooty bit. Unless _maybe_ capital punishments? Then again, murderers getting executed via firing squad doesn't count does it?

[@Hypersonic156]

@@qwertykeyboard5901 you’re probably right about the capital punishments. Though if you look hard enough there’s an article where Clive accused some guy who was his political opponent of having some Chinese spy as his wife. The video interview about the whole thing shows Clive losing his shit and even the interviewer said “Clive, I think you’ve lost the plot”

[@xr6lad]

Come on; anyone with half a brain knew 5+ years ago this was never going to happen. Specially Australians. That this was taken as credible at any point shows how dim some people are.

[@xr6lad]

@@Hypersonic156 that’s more believable than many of his other claims. You obviously know little about the worlds largest dictatorship…. Given they have agents amongst their international students here (admitted to by other students) who report back on misdemeanours and keep them in line why is the other a stretch. The worlds oldest thing: embed agents within political circles and rise.

[@paulmason4616]

Not a direct reply This is a maritime version of pie in the sky. Titanic was doomed to sink without trace, Titanic 2 was sunk before it was built. It is considered UNLUCKY to name a ship after a vessel which did not sink in battle. in order to possibly break the taboo why not name her TITANIQUE or TITANISCH?

[@imsomewhatcertain1024]

There is a ship related to the Titanic which is now a museum ship in Belfast called the SS Nomadic; which was one of the tender ships specifically built for the Olympic Class ships.

[@LuisAngelSantos]

It’s actually the Nomadic not the Noradic

[@Crazyguy_123MC]

And Nomadic only ever serviced one Olympic class ship. The Olympic class was very tragic only having one of the liners have a successful career.

[@annieleonheart7593]

I rather visit the Queen Mary. It’s looks more similar

[@JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN]

JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23

[@DerpyPossum]

@@Crazyguy_123MC Nomadic serviced both Olympic and Titanic, at least once,

[@TheNova64000]

Obviously there was alot of renewed interest in the Titanic after the movie came out in the late 1998. Even in the early 2000"s their where rumors of a second Titanic ship that was virtually a replica of the original.

[@LucyKosaki]

I would love to visit a finished replica one day. Not to romantizise the tragedy, but to be able to experiece part of what it was like to be on board a 100+ year old luxury liner at that time. The closest thing we currently have is the Queen Mary museum, which is kinda closed most of the time and has increasing repair and funding issues since almost 20 years now.

[@1111guitardude1111]

I can confirm this is true, every time I tried visiting the Queen Mary it was always closed to the public 😒

[@Glitch_sa_Mhaitris]

Let's rebuild the World Trade Center Twin Towers too and raise the USS Arizona whilst we're at it 🙄

[@Nbdestryer]

@@1111guitardude1111 The Queen Mary is reopened to the public as of May 2023.

[@JangoF12b]

I really think bringing back the Titanic would be a great way to keep the idea of it a round, and keep the history alive and known. I hope it can happen, for a fully functional and nice cruise ship with possible museum decks or cabins for touring and for people on the cruise to learn about the whole ship, the original and new.

[@baritonebynight]

Sure.....but nobody with an insane amount of money wishes to do it so it will never happen. Clive Palmer was never to be taken seriously from the beginning.

[@mistylover7398]

@@baritonebynight too much 💰 maybe?

[@wolfshanze5980]

Titanic is an Ocean Liner, not a Cruise Ship... they are apples to oranges and are built differently for very different purposes.

[@M.A.C.01]

@@wolfshanze5980 think there’s something wrong with making it a tourist attraction base on a ship sink that killed millions of people on board?

[@wolfshanze5980]

@@M.A.C.01 millions of people? I think there's something wrong with a grown adult who either exaggerates things WILDLY out of proportion to prove a point, or has absolutely no comprehension of how numbers work.

[@thefallofoscar]

the algorithm sure is funny, this vid was not recommended until now LMAO

[@Trenton-om9qs]

I am kinda bummed out about this. I kinda figured this would probably never happen. I remember being so hyped about this and writing and article about it in 5th or 6th grade.

[@gregtomamichel973]

As an Australian, I think most of us groan at the mention of a Clive Palmer project. Great video as always.

[@simonm1447]

In this case he's the Australian equivalent of Trevor Milton ;-)

[@Theironminer-ky2pg]

everyone has seen those stupid "FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FOREVER!!!!"

[@LittleMissLion]

Accurate. Automatic eye roll at the mention of his name.

[@mochynmawr9579]

wdym he's a living treasure

[@jgdmlw]

The American equivalent of Trump?

[@NoSlow78]

We have a Titanic 2 story now, with the Titan submersible going down.

[@goodnightmyprince6734]

Could do movieon the empress of ireland

[@PhluXx1]

​@@goodnightmyprince6734it sunk in 14 minutes so it would be a very short movie.

[@ericalba5756]

Plus the sequel, where the ice-preserved body of Jack Dawson rises from the deep and reanimates.

[@toddkurzbard]

As a (LONG time) TITANIC Historian, I remember when Palmer's TITANIC II 'project' started. My immediate reaction was, "It'll never happen. It's a publicity stunt to cash in on the movie's current popularity". And every time it died and was resurrected, my belief was further reinforced. So this comes as no surprise to me. By the way, at 3:06, observe a tragic irony in the "Popular Mechanics" illustration: in the background, you can see the World Trade Center, and if you want a real chill along that same line, in that bad "Raise the TITANIC" movie, near the end, there is a scene where the resurrected TITANIC, entering New York Harbor, passes abeam of the WTC in the background. Considering history, it's positively eerie.

[@isaiahc8390]

Pick up your cross and follow Jesus! The world is quickly headed for destruction, and sooner or later you will have to sit at the judgement seat and give an account for your actions. Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life! - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God tho. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc and you should get a response. Have a blessed day!

[@jettozahoku]

As someone who loves all things Titanic, it was great to see you cover this. Your work is always very informative and appreciated.

[@CharlyDeamen]

I'll be honest, I would've saved and scrimped for a Southampton - NYC crossing on any rebuilt, modernized Titanic II. Probably brought a few "period appropriate" self-sewn outfits to wear on deck as well. If anything, that would bring me closer to that time and those people, to understanding what happened on that awful night. I don't get people who go on about how it's disrespectful and stuff, seriously. By that logic, the movie shouldn't exist either.

[@SevCaswell]

It all comes down to the fine line between telling a story about events and profiting from them. If it wasn't for her dramatic and horrific sinking, Titanic would probably have been overshadowed by her 'older sister' Olympic, there is an excellent 'what if' video on that by Oceanliner Designs here on youtube. So to create a Titanic II over say an Olympic II would be using the tragedy exclusively for financial gain.

[@aworte3266]

Yeah maybe you should get some period appropriate pieces and visit Auschawitz as well. Whats the difference?

[@frags4679]

​@@SevCaswell 100% true, in the same way we have films on WWll and the holocaust we must rember that these are 'artistic' appropriations of the events that occurred for the purpose of storytelling as you put it. So really it's just a question of "Well how far can we go before it becomes gratuitous?"

[@venomousnate7263]

I’ve heard that there would be a rebuilt Titanic which I kinda found pretty interesting. I’ve always wondered what was the project up to. That’s for the enlightenment as always Jake.

[@JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN]

JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23

[@jwrailve3615]

They have talked about “titanic 2” being debuted every year of my entire life

[@operator91210]

I don't understand why not just build a regular cruiser and just slap Titanic on the side and people would fall for it

[@jwrailve3615]

@@operator91210 I always found it so crazy with all the technology in the world, and yet our technology is considered too modern to rebuild former cruise liners, historic steam locomotives, etc. it’s kinda like if 10,000 Irish men built a ship rivet by rivet with a hammer than they can build a titanic with a 3D printer likely more exact to the blueprints than the original itself.

[@operator91210]

@@jwrailve3615 I think the problem isn't the technology, it's all the old trade masters that used to do it have died off. So efficient techniques that were used to assemble said products is all lost skill because their grandchildren didn't take up their trades. few reproductions have been made, mostly old cars re-manufactured from scratch. I believe there was a steam locomotive that was built from scratch that took 20 years to assemble and fabricate (A1 peppercorn I believe)

[@jwrailve3615]

@@operator91210 they are building from scratch the T-1 steam loco, 2-2-2-2 wheel configuration, I feel like if that project goes well we will see a huge progression in passion restoration projects across the country, despite all the economic woes I think we as a country are more nostalgic than ever for things before our time of the previous world.

[@rockeraaj]

I'm honestly shocked that no one has yet built a cruise-worthy replica Titanic. If it ever happens, it will be a huge success.

[@rikupv]

perhaps not, because around the time of the titanic the quickest way to traverse the atlantic was via cruiseship. However now that's obviously not the case. It would be cool, but I hardly believe the ship would stay operational for very long when the novelty wears off.

[@roycem4945]

remember - Titanic was transportation (commerical airplanes weren't invented) and Titanic has three classes - So who wants to stay in 2nd & 3rd class rooms which look like jail cells. And the 2nd and 3rd class dining rooms looked like a warehouse etc..

[@driftsyurcus8550]

​@@rikupv titanic has a big fan base, if ppl are willing to pay 250,000 to see the titanic from a sub I'm pretty sure people would love to travel on the ocean with titanic

[@nickwebb9937]

@@driftsyurcus8550exactly

[@clorindatine2610]

Sameee A comment above you said they should rebuild the titanic, not make it a ship that can go on water but into a museum so people would get the feel of it if what it was like inside. It’ll make me feel a little uneasy. I’d constantly be thinking people who lost their lives. It shouldn’t really be a tourist attraction. Respecting the 1,500 people- they did not make it off that ship

[@payton999]

I wish someone would rebuild this ship. To see it’s true beauty would be a once in a lifetime opportunity. There are thousands of people that would love to see the interior and maybe even cruise the ocean on such a ship. I don’t care if there are cruise ships much bigger now, I want to see a replica in person.

[@gloriaortiz1227]

Believe me, the ones now are much more beautiful

[@payton999]

@@gloriaortiz1227 I go on cruises quite frequently but none of those modern day ships could ever compare to a Victorian White Star Line.

[@nickwebb9937]

@@gloriaortiz1227that’s false

[@burendasan]

I know that there still are enthusiasts of the story of the Titanic out there, but so much time has passed since the movie came out and even since the 100th anniversary of the disaster that I think the massive hype around it has died down. So even if the Titanic II came to fruition, it probably wouldn’t be profitable. Not to mention that it would be disrespectful, not to mention tempting fate, to recreate the Titanic and sail it with paying customers.

[@JJMHigner]

Exactly.

[@AlydiaRackham]

I don't think so. The DiCaprio film was hardly the first movie about the Titanic, and there have been hundreds of books written about it. People are still very, very interested in Titanic, and will continue to be. There's just something about it. And I don't think it's ever disrespectful to remember, to learn, to put yourself in the shoes of people in the past. If it WAS disrespectful, then all museums about any war (or the holocaust) would be disrespectful.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Timmy

[@qtscorpkid]

I semi like the I deal of having a 1to1 replica of an Olympic class ship built in Maritime museum/park like they had with the queen Mary, just expanded. A walk through maritime history living museums and use the Cruse lines as floating hotels.

[@kelliew2813]

Prior to the 21st century, naming ships after sunken ships was common - especially in England, There's tons of ships named after WWII vessels that had sank like the HMS Manchester and HMS York. I think the Royal Navy named almost 2 dozen frigates after their sunken destroyers too. So whether people think it's nice or tacky, is probably a cultural thing.

[@rathernot6587]

Sinking vessels - large ones at least - is now extremely rare. Back than it was just uncommon. Titanic was world news and is so famous because even back than the sinking of a large ocean liner was extremely rare. And nowadays even more so due to the modern safety rules and ect.

[@deathsinger1192]

but you gotta be really bold to name your ship after titanic, we once saw a small boat somewhere that was actually named "titanic 2"

[@Adrian-wd4rn]

Battle ships are different. It was always bad luck to not name the ship, or to name it after one that had loss of life.

[@joewalker2152]

@@rathernot6587 It was quite common for passenger ships large or small to sink, back then. Just google sunk passenger ships and look at the list. It's because of the publicity at the time of her construction, and it happened on her maiden voyage with a lot of wealthy people on board that made it famous at the time. Also, it is said in the maritime industry that one "large" ocean going vessel a week sinks somewhere around the world. It's just you don't hear about it on the news. Interesting fact---- 52,000 shipping containers are lost at sea every year according to maritime insurance companies. As for reusing her name, this happens all the time. There's one modern use of a name from a sunken ship, albeit a warship, that is the UK's second Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales. The previous one was a King George the V class battleship sunk by the Japanese on the 10th of December 1941 with the loss of 327 crew.

[@theashleighdiaries]

Things I did not anticipate today as an Australian: Hearing about Clive Palmer again because I thought I was finally done after this year's election lmao. Then again, also checks out timing wise to be reminded, I forgot that Titanic II is something that he drags out every time he gets publicly embarrassed after an election - so expect a new update soon, solid timing for your video But this video does show that Palmer's still got the wool over the eyes internationally when you start the section by talking about how he's got political power and financial ability to pull off the project theoretically because he really does not, he's just good at convincing people he does. He might seem like a lot of money at a glance on paper, but his company Queensland Nickel went under in 2016 because of the poor financial management you mentioned (which was why he was charged with fraud) and was definitely already on its way out during his announcement of the titanic project in 2013. He didn't pay the liquidators what he owed until a court ordered it in 2021, with the federal government having to step in to pay $66m in unpaid entitlements and wages to the employees (which didn't cover all that was owed) because Clive never intended to pay them anything until the backlash became too much in 2019. Nor does he have political power - the man spent over $100 million on an advertising campaign for his political party for the last federal election last month and they didn't win a single seat.

[@sharonjack6815]

Plus he was hoping to have an easy victory in the high court vs the WA govt, with a massive payout. Didn’t happen that way. He’s just an idiot

[@kevinloving3141]

As an American thank you for telling the world about this grifter, and the other grifters who want the glory of being rich while sticking taxpayers with the bills.

[@VanillaMacaron551]

You have summed him up perfectly. He's a publicity-seeking buffoon. If anyone thinks Palmer could build or operate a replica Titanic, go and see his resort at Coolum, on Queensland's Sunshine Coast. Was for decades a Hyatt, nice place, staged PGA golf tournaments. Palmer bought it, Hyatt vacated. Palmer put mechanical dinosaurs all over the golf course; they didn't work and I think sit there rusting to this day and the pool is green with algae! Someone correct me if there have been updates, but it was certainly like this a few years back.

[@toddkurzbard]

The funny thing is, here in the U.S. nobody has really heard of him (myself included), so when a yank like me hears his name, I think, "must be some really rich British businessman".

[@daveth121864]

Wow. Thanks Ashleigh. Why does it that anyone with more than $1B has to pass a test certifying that they are 100% lunatic? And if not, your back up can be "But I AM 100% crooked. And greedy. And I've never made a child support payment in my life. Those kids are too ungrateful." Donald J. Trump, also known as America's #1 buffoon or just that orange fat bastard is our favorite person to hate. His IQ is well into double digits. :/

[@umairmalik459]

Exaaactly..that's what I always believe.. scrapping the Olympic was the worst decision they ever made..she could have been and should have been restored!

[@DJ118USMC]

I would be all for a Replica 1:1 built (Preferably at the Harland and Wolf Shipyard) that was a Museum/Hotel. It would be static. But it would be created as accurately as possible to the original. I would have it attached to the Museum that is already located there. I think it would be a very popular destination as I for one would love to see the ship in real life. Not to mention they already have her tender the Nomadic.

[@anonomuse9094]

The Nomadic? Also, what's a tender? Is that just a fancy word for replacement?

[@DJ118USMC]

@@anonomuse9094 It's a smaller boat or vassal used to transport people from a ship to a location or a location to the ship. The SS Nomadic and sister SS Traffic served the White Star Line Ships specifically the Olympic Class (Including Titanic) in Cherbourg, France. Nomadic is the only White Star ship still remaining and can be seen at the Harland and Wolf Shipyard all restored and sporting her original White Star livery. Edit: You can see the Nomadic along the Titanic in the 1997 James Cameron film during the scene when Molly Brown boards the ship in France. It's a CG model as the Nomadic was in poor condition and not running at the time of the movie.

[@anonomuse9094]

@@DJ118USMC oh, so it's a ferry boat. Cool, so that's why it looked weird to me when I looked it up, I was expecting an ocean liner.

[@katyfox5695]

It's also Harland and Wolf not Harlem lol. I would love to see a replica as a hotel or museum too, Titanic holds a special place in my heart as me and my dad shared an addiction on finding out everything we could about the ship, wreck and people who sailed on her.

[@supertouring1]

There was a 1:1 Museum/hotel Titanic replica being built in China, but construction had stopped about half a way due to pandemic/funding. Not sure if that venture will ever be finished.

[@runawaysmudger7181]

Honestly you need only study the deck plans of the Titanic to realize how bogus this project is since they showed the original Titanic's passenger capacity in their video. Sure the Titanic was big and impressive in her day but she wouldn't even be able to carry even half of her passenger capacity by today's standard. Aside from the 4 luxury suites the majority of 1st class cabins are very barebones and are the size of standard bathrooms in your home today with very few cabins having private bathroom. Imagine 2x3m room with a bed, a chair, a sink and a closet. That's it. Good luck not getting claustrophobia if you're in an inboard cabin. Now imagine 3rd class cabins with 3 more beds crammed in, sparsly placed public washrooms and saloons that can't even hold half the number of 3rd class. Even crew cabins on freighters today are more impressive and spacious

[@VanillaMacaron551]

interesting, thank you

[@alfredwang7607]

Well said :D

[@wolfshanze5980]

Doesn't matter how few passengers it can hold, when every single cabin will be priced sky-high and sold out for every voyage for years... something like the Titanic 2 would have a significant following, like people that want to stay in a hotel room a serial killer stayed in... there's a huge market for something like the Titanic 2, and each and every ticket will cost a fortune... and be sold out for years.

[@runawaysmudger7181]

@@wolfshanze5980 the initial wave of people who were sold on the myth of the Titanic being the “Floating Buckingham” sure. Her 1st and 2nd class public spaces were truly something to behold even for today and WSL spared no expense but many people are blinded by popular belief and might have forgotten the fact that she was a mode of transportation meant to carry as many people as possible from A to B and in a time when ocean liners were the only way to cross the oceans. They’d have to either make alterations to passenger accommodations and reduce the capacity or come clean with the reason for keeping the ship as authentic as possible and what the passenger should expect or I’m willing to bet there’ll be a massive wave of complaints by the end of the first crossing saying “you’re better off on an overnight ferry”

[@samg5463]

@@runawaysmudger7181 well I think a lot of people are still caught up in the myth that people in 1912 were sold. Can’t say I blame them though. Still a 1 to 1 comparison of 3rd class would never be fun or enjoyable. It’d be like going to Disney’s pirates of the Caribbean ride and getting press ganged into a actual 17th century sail ship. Not very fun.

[@EonityLuna]

If I were to have the resources to build a Titanic replica, I wouldn’t be doing anything like what have been tried so far. Rather, I would build one that’s an exact replica of the original, right down to the original number of lifeboats etc., but use it strictly only as a static, floating museum ship. It will still be technically seaworthy, with functional coal boilers and everything, but - as a mark of respect for those who lost their lives in the original tragedy - it will never accept any sailing passengers or set sail, but instead permanently docked at either the Southampton White Star Line Dock - where it sailed from - or Pier 34 at New York City, its original intended destination. There would also be at least one plaque on or near the entrance to the ship honouring the lives of those lost on the original ship, and the whole thing will be aimed more at educating people about Titanic’s history, the tragedy of the sinking, and the repercussions it had afterward on the survivors, the maritime industry, etc, rather than as some entertainment or theme park attraction. Basically, treating it with the respect it deserves, rather than belittling it as some cheap piece of entertainment.

[@Mike-rk8px]

Who would ever want to go on a cruise or ocean crossing on a “Titanic 2”? Could you imagine the prospect of it retracing the original Southampton to NYC route, and which cruise line would have the bad enough taste to even suggest it? The only way I’d ever step foot on it would be if it was just a replica that was permanently docked, like the Queen Mary in Long Beach. Some of my ancestors died on the Lusitania, so I prefer not to tempt fate.

[@jakubgraus13]

Such a shame that Olympic got scrapped. However, some of her interior was saved and is now in White Swan hotel in Alnwick, England (dining room and railing from grand staircase). The other way of experiencing Olympic class liner would be to see a wreck of Britannic, but you need special permissions from Greek goverment and be a specialized technical diver.

[@Crazyguy_123MC]

Almost all of her interiors were saved and still exist. Most went to a paint factory that bought up a lot of the interior. I own a segment that originally came from the 1st class smoking room. Olympic deserved to survive the 1930s she was still in very good shape for a ship over 20 years old they even said her engines were running the best they had ever run in her entire career.

[@jakubgraus13]

@@Crazyguy_123MC that’s very cool man

[@sema6008]

Confirmed as some of her furniture, porcelain, little lights, a lounge window, wall panel, bath wash cabinet are in the Titanic Exhibit NYC. I was amazed.

[@LeeLee-pk4ss]

I'm not a superstitious person but as much as I would love to explore a replica of the Titanic, I think that taking a trip on it's maiden voyage with that name is just tempting fate. Now a stationary full size replica museum (like the Ark Encounter) is something that I can get behind.

[@davinp]

White Star Line was having financial difficulties at the time and tried to see RMS Olympic. Unfortunately, they couldn't afford to turn it into a museum, so the decision was made to scrap her in 1937

[@toddkurzbard]

There was actually some interest by the Italian government to purchase her as a troopship, but the deal fell through For which I am glad. The idea of her becoming an axis (and likely later Nazi) troopship is repugnant and foul. Better she was scrapped.

[@sockjim9016]

@@toddkurzbard Agreed! Given that WW2 was about to start, she could've easily ended up serving the Axis (unless, of course, she got the Aquitania treatment and was kept around long enough to join the British troopship fleet). Also Olympic's scrapping provided employment and money to a town that was particularly hard-hit by the Depression, which seems like a fitting end for a ship called Old Reliable imo

[@devilinside2002]

When you said about Clive Palmer “….Even though he is still alive” I said …. Yeah unfortunately!

[@lock386]

You know Australia as a country has made it when Clive Palmer is being mentioned in a BSF vid.

[@devilinside2002]

@@lock386 would’ve been a lot better if Clive “dense Humpty Dumpty” Palmer was mentioned “in memorial”

[@RADICALFLOAT_95]

This video is actually genuinely underated and damm

[@Jjames763]

“Horrifically gauche” seems to be the unifying theme of these _Titanic 2_ projects.

[@2Bluzin]

The RMS Queen Marry is a fantastic ship too visit if you want to get a feel for what the Titanic was like. Unfortunately, it's temporary closed due to some shady investors who embezzled money while promising the city of Long Beach they were going to maintain it.

[@HyperVegitoDBZ]

No it's not. There literally nothing to do there, she was gutted from anything worth a damn and currently it barely has things like working restaurants.

[@8ballout]

Kind of weird how no one can build a decent Titanic replica these modern days, while over 100 years ago Harland and Wolff pumped out three of these beauties in a shorter timeframe. I like Palmers idea and the model looks really good, nice combination of history and modern technic. In memory of all the lost souls... RIP.

[@supers0nic77]

Were they made of the same type of metal and did they still sail through icy Atlantic ?

[@frags4679]

Yeah the thing is, there's literally no profit incentive to plan, build, sail and maintain a ship that operated 100+ years ago when today you could catch a plane or take a cruise ship around. While we defiantly can build as many life size Titanic replicas as we want today, the unfortunate truth is that nobody wants to spend 4 days on a ship if it doesn't come loaded with all the amenities and entertainment facilities that are found on all cruise ships today.

[@janekilIer]

The closest we ever got to a modern titanic 2/ replica was the set used in the movie

[@arizonatsunami]

I think that this concept could only work as a museum ship or AT MOST a floating hotel. Although the Titanic is super cool, after a few hours most modern people would get pretty bored being on a ship with no technology or extracurricular activities to do besides an indoor swimming pool.

[@JohanKylander]

IMO most things remade from a tragic history should never be a hotel. For the respect they deserve.

[@aston-martin-internationalist]

Having been to the Harland & Wolf shipyard where the original was built and the various museums in Belfast, Cherbourg and a couple of international touring Titanic exhibitions, I'm so happy to be sitting down to this right now.

[@juliandavison5188]

blue star line was a reputable shipping line and should not be associated with Mr palmer

[@ElaborateTiger]

That "titanic returns" poster with the world trade center in the background is so cursed lol

[@hallamhal]

Isn't it ironic, Olympic was the only ship not to sink, and the only ship that doesn't exist as a ship anymore

[@MicklowFilms]

You would think of all the ships that company sank, they keep the one lucky ship in business for historical purposes and for future generations…

[@luv2singndance]

@@MicklowFilms there is one white star line ship left I forgot it’s name but it’s a museum ship somewhere.

[@lozzielozer]

@@luv2singndance the queen mary?

[@smudisocks]

@@luv2singndancethe nomadic

[@weirdotzero7065]

I think probably the best way to handle a concept like this while being respectful is to make a Titanic Museum. A few of those already exists, but never to full scale. But I don't know how successful a 1 to 1 replica would be, given most people would probably want to go on the deck, bow, living quarters, dinning rooms and the grand stair case... and that's about it. It would be too expensive to be supported by casual observers. Historians and fanatics(such as myself) would love to see something to scale, but at the end of the day, it would end up being a huge waste of money for any finacer.

[@Firusdhf]

I think it should be rebuilt just as a museum rather than a theme park thing or tourist attraction or anything but as remembrance.

[@Unownshipper]

When I was a teenager I thought the idea of a replica Titanic was really cool, but as I've grown older, I've realized how immature that idea is. It's inauthentic and tacky. The Titanic cannot exist today due international safety regulations and the prohibitive expense of recreating the craftsmanship that went into the original. It doesn't serve the same purpose, it'd just be an echo of a real-life tragedy. And just a skin-deep replica at that with little of the interior matching the original. It's fine to be interested in the story of Titanic, but this is grotesque.

[@michaelboyle1805]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@trinny_y]

while it seems cool to US today, it’s disrespectful to the families of those who died

[@roelmd8907]

They better build a replica of RMS Olympic instead. She was Titanic sister ship. The two ships were built side by side by Harland & Wolff in Belfast, and the two shared almost identical details. Moreover, the Olympic was more successful career, was a stronger ship (after massive modification, lesson learned from Titanic and SOLAS implementation) The only ocean liner that sunk an U-Boat. We still can feel the experience of sailing in Titanic sister ship (and feel the periode details) without being disrespectful to the families of those who perished

[@stephendennis5969]

Agreed! If it hadn’t of sunk. It would have been scrapped. Just like the Olympic. The Olympic was a magnificent ship with a glorious career and they scrapped her for it. Titanic gets all the publicity cuz people died. It’s kinda sick. Like people slowing down to look at a car wreck. Why would I sail on a replica of a ship that sunk and killed the majority of its passengers and crew. That’s bad juju.

[@Jillyowls]

Well said

[@Wombattlr]

And all of your Australian viewers just collectively groaned. (Not about the video, but at the reminder that Clive Palmer exists)

[@tabithahallows6116]

Correct. We did.

[@skyguy1988]

they should seriously start making ocean liners again, not just cruise ships. they should make them very very classy and relaxing, for a different experience

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

There is no money in it. That's why they are all gone. And you'd have to find classy passengers. Most of them are all gone too.

[@skyguy1988]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 because our world has turned to unclassy trash. that's why

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@skyguy1988 no argument from me on that.

[@silvergust]

@@skyguy1988 "Unclassy trash" 🤓

[@skyguy1988]

@CasketBURN and most of those private jets are pure trash. tiny little sardine cans lol.

[@DOUGHBOY420.]

Man you cover the best topics thanks Jake

[@Mothware]

I'm not super big into superstition, but naming your ship after one that had such a major disaster is asking for trouble, especially when doing it solely to profit off the name.

[@wolfshanze5980]

Naming it "BoatyMcBoatface" would kind of miss the entire point of building the ship in the 1st place.

[@mew10521]

I agree

[@STALINGRAD7]

I cant think of anything more nice to the souls that left this world on that ship than building it again and completing the journey. There is no need to be so negative.

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

@@STALINGRAD7 Where are the Twin Towers 2 then?

[@johnmac8805]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 The opportunity has been destroyed by rat politicians.

[@a.walters123]

Nooooo. I had no idea this was cancelled until now just seeing this video. I was eagerly awaiting it’s completion so I could buy tickets. I am pretty sure if/when someone does rebuild a replica, it will be surprisingly successful.

[@JustJohn505]

I still have a piece of newspaper from 2012 when it was announced. Can't belive it was canceled

[@Ptylersworld]

Thanks for listening to my suggestion for a Titanic 2 video! I was really hoping that you would one day cover all the different projects that tried to revive the Titanic. I was always interested in the ship from an early age, and I would always get excited whenever a new plan to rebuild the ship came about. It's understandable that such a project would not be successful in the 21st century, and as disappointed as I am that it will probably never happen, perhaps it is for the best. I think the best project that tries to recreate the ship is the game Titanic Honor and Glory. While it may not be a real ship you can explore, it comes the closest to actually recreating the ship as historically accurately as possible, with almost all the public spaces recreated, and a few crew only spaces.

[@Vakowski]

The 1997 movie re-created the entire exterior and some of the exterior (albeit in seperate studios) and that was the closest thing to a 1:1 scale Titanic replica. They also made the most detailed miniature of Titanic for the sinking shots. It was still 1997, so they had to use miniatures.

[@Raithization]

While I would never get on a boat called the Titanic (or any boat really) and go on a cruise, I would visit a scale replica of her that was stationary IF everything on the inside was being replicated too. I think it would in theory make an interesting kind of hotel and living history museum.

[@gwendolynrobinson3900]

Exactly. I don't need to go in a cruise, but making it a replica floating museum or even hotel like the Queen Mary would be cool. But oh my God setting it to sail (for recreational/travel purposes other than moving it to be a traveling attraction) just screams bad idea.

[@Cactusfruitsquisher]

why? Just because the original sank, didn’t immediately mean something will happen to a second one. There’s absolutely no reason to fear this and it’s amazing to me the apprehension you two seem to have.

[@leiahibari]

@@Cactusfruitsquisher if it’s a replica that means it would not have enough lifeboats and will not be up to today’s safety codes. The interior was also build with flammable materials. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

[@newsman9539]

If Titanic II ever gets built, I would want to sail on that ship.

[@ferretman6790]

Same

[@richland1980]

@@ferretman6790 Why, if you want to share a toilet or a shower go to a truck stop. First and Second class dining were about the only real amenities.

[@hb4174]

@@richland1980 how bout you lighten the fuck up lad

[@Blox117]

@@ferretman6790 i like ferrets

[@tamara2102]

I wouldn't......

[@Rudizel]

The problem is that modern day regulations require you to produce a much more modern ship, thus not Titanic at all. Replica of Titanic needs to be exactly the same or else it’s just using it’s name. If you make it exactly the same it means it’s not allowed to sail and would just be a docked ship serving more like a hotel.

[@mattrasp1615]

You couldn’t build a visually accurate titanic while following the modern day regulations? Surely a white star line vessel could have modern engines and safety modifications

[@idrawpeopleandanimals]

Again, Jake, another excellent and informative documentary on one of my favorite subjects. Your work just keeps getting better and better. Amazing job! ❤

[@TheAdros23]

I cheered out loud when I saw this video had been posted. Thank you for making great content.

[@gratefuldad4083]

The fact that this guy makes 5 second sponsors is such a relieve.

[@saibattu7745]

Amazing video Jake, if you are looking at suggestions for Cancelled, I wanted to suggest, the RMMV Oceanic. It was supposed to be the next White Star Line superliner.

[@hevendor958]

*not a bad video idea, the Oceanic did went though development hell until its cancellation*

[@xRLJohns24x]

Hey Jake not sure what series it would fall under, but would love to see you document the failed Fort Rapids Resort in Columbus, OH. It’s still standing as a total eye sore east of downtown on I-70. It has a modern fascinating history that involves bankruptcy, abandonment, and cancelled future plans alike. Few channels would be able to document whatever the hell happened to it like yours would.

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Wall e and Eve

[@elishavarivka8923]

I would sail on it--wish they built ships like this again.

[@RailPreserver2K]

If it were to be rebuilt it should be rebuilt as a static model and more less be made as a museum / Hotel. The only ones technically rebuilding the ship in a digital sense is Titanic honor and Glory along with a few other modelers

[@1KingCoop]

I've been a Titanic fan and enthusiast since I seen the 1997 film, when i was around 4, maybe 5 years old. To be honest to see a ship like Titanic sail again would be cool but financially I don't think it'd do as well as people think it would, plus it'd just be a money grab, just because of the name itself. Also it could throw people off because the ship that came before it sank, even though technology has increased greatly since 1912. With projects like these you never know what the outcome could be.

[@MelStaub]

I like the idea of a sailing museum of the once beautiful vessel but at the same time I feel it would be a bit of a smack in the face to those who tragically passed especially, if they were to ever sail over her final resting place, I genuinely think we should build an ocean liner similar to the three Olympic class ships but call it something different and have it be a sort of younger modern brother to the sisters that came before

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

na good riddance the titanic 2 was an abomination waiting to happen glad its dead

[@djdeadbeat4380]

Titanic 2 - Electric Sinkaloo