History Primer 166: Scandinavian Nagants Documentary

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Additional reading:
Les Revolvers et les Fusils Nagant
Claud Feys & Rene Smeets
Kongsberg Colten
Karl Egil Hanevik
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Gazette des Armes et des Uniformes No.204
Le Revolver Nagant Model 1887
Bernard Meyer
Gazette des Armes No.464
Les Revolvers Nagant: 2e partie
Mathis Marx
Varia 1992
De svensk-norska försöken med en ny revolver år 1877
Dr. Johan Hansson
Gun and Sword Collector: Vol 44 No.5 Oct 2022
The Luxembourg Nagant Revolvers
Mathis Marx
VapenTidningen 1996
Revolver M/1887
Arne Thell
Le Revolver "Nagant Serbe" Modele 1891
Branko Bogdanovic
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Geschichte und Technik der europäischen Militärrevolver Band I
Rolf H. Muller
Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH
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[@Helltanz98]

This is actually the episode I've been waiting for a while. My grandfather's general store apparently had some swedish (so I was told, they could have been norwegian) nagants come in the eighties apparently who knows, but I've always been interested in details about them. Apparently one was in 9x20 Browning so maybe they were

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[@tjoyce1971]

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[@ZGryphon]

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[@fg42t2]

I Had in the 1980s a Swedish Nagant pistol and holster both marked with three crowns. I had sleeved barrel and cylinder to 22 long rifle all off set so the rims line up with the center fire hammer. It was a gorgeous rig. Ioved it-till I shot it. The cases fired or not, worked back after the first shot hitting the frame stoping it from turning. I sold it after informing the buyer that it did not shoot. I'll bet he still has that nice looking rig.

[@TheBattlefieldHistorianTwitch]

Kinda reminds me of one episode of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles where Indy carries a Nagant Revolver during his service in East Africa during WW1, however, that was a Belgian Model aka the Nagant 1878/83 while in this video, is the Scandinavian Model.

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[@eweasel1]

Othius you are 100% wrong on one thing. If you are an officer, your pistol is not your only weapon. Your primary weapon is the unit that you command.

[@brittakriep2938]

In those days, there was also a saber/ sword.

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[@88porpoise]

Not sure if it is real or my mind just forcing patterns, but it seems to me that the people involved in colonial conflicts pushed bigger, more powerful pistols versus those entirely focused on Europe. I assume the less certain (and often more insurgent) nature of fighting colonial conflicts in comparison to the expected formations marching around in Europe got people to realize that a pistol will actually be used rather than just carried because they need to carry something.

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Another one for the Nagant revolvers!

[@greylocke100]

One of these days Mae is going to slap Othais.

[@fhsreelfilms]

Othias: “Either way, I’m going to make Mae shoot it.” Me: “Poor Mae… said No One Ever”

[@viking1ur]

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Im here to see the shooting

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[@MadCatmkII]

I'm really curious about the "dainty" bit and if it shouldn't rather be translated as "neat". A quick search through the paper by Johan Hansson doesn't seem to contain the quotation, though, so I'm not sure.

[@Anders57292]

Same. Couldn’t find the right paper online. Only similar word I found in the article on the 1877-trials that I could find was ”prydlig”, which would translate to neat; tidy; smart. Also: Maybe the Husqvarna museum has some info on the 9mm Browning Long conversion.

[@rymanjones3]

~1:29:00 the ejector rod came loose? mustve been from mae not locking it right?

[@Lomi311]

These small bore “fast” moving revolver cartridges really just aren’t that fast.

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I have never seen Ballistol in any store in my area, am I doing something wrong?

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It is a german company, so may be not so known in english language countries. It is today usually sold in spray cans. I still remember the glass bottles from my teenage years, the wrapped paper contained a PR text, in a dated style, so it caused some laughs, remembering this wrapped paper, we germans say, you can use Balistol for everthing, with exeption of drink it. Today this company has a number of products, to clean and care firearms, and , in contrast to 40/30 years ago, craftsmen of different professions use it also for not weaponrelated working.

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[@rkimberly985]

Was the nagant gas seal only on the Russian models?

[@ericmckinley7985]

Correct

[@Zakuznapper]

Swedish hate mail incoming! Keep that 10 Öre-coin handy, you’ll have to assemble it yourself, flat pack style! ?! better dare had How mountain goats (Norwegians) say sights than the us. you

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[@jameskazd9951]

uhhh, the russian nagants kind of because of the gas seal, but that is a different gun than any on this video, and really the gas seal mechanism is pointless and just makes it more prone to breakdowns. idk why the russians thought a gas seal was worthy of a service revolver. overhyped because "neat" like many a gun

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@@jameskazd9951 That’s the joke.

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Othias: "Corporate needs you to distinguish the difference between these two guns." May: "The're the same gun."

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[@nathanbrown8680]

I was sure the "big" difference between the Swedish and Norwegian Nagants was going to be that they had screw heads sized for different coins.

[@stefanspett7790]

Good thinking but at that time Sweden, Norway and Denmark had unified coinage, in terms of size and metal. It ended 1914.

[@user-ii5im7zm2t]

Scandinavian army officers: We insist that our sidearms must be as dainty as possible Their vikingur ancestors: ಠ_ಠ

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[@HB-622A]

43:25 Could the crown-over-N just stand for Norge/Norway? The distinction of having the crown, where the others didn't, makes me question whether it's merely an inspector's initial.

[@borjesvensson8661]

It might be still in use as a blank firing gun to train police dogs. Horses and the like Correction. Untill 1989 apparantly

[@SachikaRomanova]

Perfect timing, I was just going to bed! Sweet, sweet Othais ASMR with deep knowledge I'll wake up remembering bits of tomorrow! 💜

[@LadyAnuB]

Othais, Mae, and other C&Rsenal viewers, In the church scene in the first act of 'The Harder They Fall,' Nat Love is shown removing the spent casings from his revolver using an ejector rod. I didn't catch this upon first viewing but did in my second and I owe this to the revolver episodes of the Primer series. Mae's shot pattern with the Swedish Nagant looks like a leaning Christmas tree.

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[@dennisshank2715]

My question is, what happened to " War were Declared" ? I always enjoy that bit.

[@leonardslair2491]

Armistice were Declared.

[@arturocavendish6859]

I quite like the design of this era of revolvers, a very efficient look.

[@danielwalker8142]

no othais is wrong if you are an officer your revolver is your secondary your primary is your troops

[@brittakriep2938]

In those days officers carried also a kind of sword, both as weapons and signs of authority.

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[@brittakriep2938]

Some notes: A longer time ago, in a german arms magazine i read , that swedish revolver was used up to 1950s, may be early 1960s. According to those article, last users had been postal service and lighthouse service, some few guns had been changed for use of 7,65/.32 ACP, which was from 1920s to 1980s a common cartridge. In german language countries the word ,Landsturm' was also known, and in Switzerland used up to 1990s. In 19th/early 20th century this Landsturm was used for the units formed of properly trained, but elderly reserve soldiers. When wwl started, the Landsturm units had been not intended for full frontline service, only fighting enemy breakthroughs, their job was doing military work in rearline, away from front, which is underrated, but very important. As longer wwl lasted, also untrsined men came to army and got shortened military training, the older ones came to Landsturm, also men of younger age , when not realy fit for frontline service ( after accidents, war injuries or with health problems etc.) In 17th/ 18th centuries Germany, the armies consisted of professional soldiers, but there hat been still relicts of medieval/ tribal age levies (Aufgebote). In few cases not so well trained and equiped, but usefull militias, sometimes a mix of target shooters society, tradition keepers and police, but mostly units, badly trained and with dated weaponry. Such units could be used as guards, escorts, armed workers, may be to man field fortifications to defend a narrow valley. Landsturm is used as umbrella term for such low quality levies of 17th/ 18th century.

[@stefanspett7790]

They were used for training police dogs until the 80-ties. So i have heard.

[@brittakriep2938]

@@stefanspett7790 : German policemen in former Britisch Ocupied Zone used for some time Enfield .380 revolvers, last ones had been used in late 60s, for training police dogs and horses.

[@newnxntiny8535]

According to Göta Vapenhistoriska sällskap, they were used in the 50s by Verkskyddet, a paramilitary put up to secure and guard among other things, power plants, railways, bridges, telegraph stations and so forth.

[@SlavicCelery]

.32 ACP makes a ton of sense in that instance. A super common police type caliber in many European countries for a long time. Also, a huge amount of pocket pistols were made in that caliber, so ammo had to be reasonably available and cheap. Semi-rimmed, so you don't need to use moon clips.

[@brittakriep2938]

@@newnxntiny8535 : In Germany the word ,Werkschutz' is known for private security branch of Industrial companies. Formerly every large company had its own security personal, in smaller companies often only a single nightwatchman.

[@PlanckRelic]

1:10:46 Toki talking to Skwisgaar... voice, pronunciation, cadence are all there 😂

[@danschneider9921]

I really hope one day you are able to cover the Fiat-Revelli 1914 and/or St Etienne 1907 machine guns. Those are the two oddball Rube Goldberg great war guns that I really want to see the history on. I know its not your formula and some consider it sacrilege...but even if you can't find working examples I'd love even a history only no shooting episode.

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We do have a plan in place for how to cover even without live fire. But that still takes a museum trip.

[@sovietdominion]

GRAND duchy of luxembourgh

[@whatTheFup]

Scandinavian Nagants, aka HInga Dinga Durgen Nagants :D I wasnt aware we scandinavians had Nagants

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[@splunky6314]

I’ve always wondered where yall get your obscure ammos, but granted that I just bought a Husqvarna 1887 last year, how did you obtain 7.5 swede? Old stock or reloads? If you reloaded, did yall use substitute dies/brass or old reloading equipment designated for that cartridge? So glad yall finally made a video over these pretty pistols!

[@KarltheKrazyone]

This platform doesn't allow them to really talk about reloads much, but Utreon does, and Othias has talked on the podcast about getting his reloading people to start doing more stuff over there. From what I understand it's a process of custom dies and progressive shaping of modern cases, but he is keen to have that info available due to the safety it adds to the collectors market.

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[@sidekickbob7227]

The information regarding the purchases of the Norwegian Navy is generally low or missing, since the archive in the city of Horten, was burned down during the second world war.

[@ianhowick]

So what's that spur on the back of the hammer for? Keeping Junk out of the internals? couldn't the frame be extended to do that?

[@Mzerron]

Dang I love this show. How does May deal with Othais? xD

[@tjfritts9013]

I'd rather go with a .45 Colt down loaded as wimpy as possible and know I'm still throwing a half-ounce of lead than to take basically a light load .32 and think it's enough. I get their issue with recoil sensitivity but jeeze; you can't do any damage out yonder if it doesn't give you a little thump in the hand. That cartridge? Just about do better to carry ten or twelve revolvers on you to just tomahawk throw at the enemy. 250 grains at even 500fps is still going to do more than the little 7.5 could dream of. Sort of like a .22lr; very lethal, but not today, you die of sepsis in a week or two. .45 is today, now, this minute. When dude is shooting back at me, I'd rather have the quicker solution.

[@DiggingForFacts]

Primer 003 is from July 2015, so considering that there's two redone episodes that used to be before that we're just shy of 6 1/2 years of C&Rsenal. Gonna have to give us at least 6 months worth of curious ol' gats before you're allowed to toss in the towel. ... Also as someone with anxiety, I'm fine remembering that I want to see a modern materials Nagant-lockwork revolver with a swing-out cylinder more than whatever childhood memory still gives me second-hand embarrassment.

[@MakooWallinen]

As a Swedish person, seeing the original text, would be great. I'm just going to guess the word was "nätt"? I would assume, if this was the case, it was meant as "compact and neat/proper".

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I can't wait for ballistol tutorial video. Your nagant tangent of chasing a weird set of requirements for a cost savings somewhere and then losing sight of why you were doing this convoluted thing feels painfully familiar...

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Way to go, Ballistol!

[@mattdickson2]

this particular gun minus it's lack of swing-out cylinder could be passed off as a 20th century design

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congrats on the sponsorship, and a good one at that!

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Single action is just as dangerous as double action… ask Alec Baldwin

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It wasn't until 1:30:32 that I realized Mae's shirt has mushrooms on it! :D Also, Ballistol is good for keeping swords oiled as well. [support comment]

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God dang it, and I thought I was getting to sleep on time. Thanks C&R

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Thank god. At work and it’s slow and I was getting ready to die of boredom till this came into my feed

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glad to hear you guys have a sponsor. I got myself a fancy flask plus a general assortment kit with oil and wipes. You can never have too much oil around.

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All hail our new green can overlords!

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Love Balistol... buy it by the gallon to clean my flintlocks...as well as my more modern stuff...

[@nobodyyouknow1065]

“Yeah, give me a 20lb pull on that trigger, please.”

[@DoctorProph3t]

“Yeah, like cold molasses and gravel. Like an officers pistol should be.”

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Good old Moose Milk! Thank you Ballistol for supporting one of my favorite channels. I will definitely support you.

[@ihatebofa6]

Luxembourg is a Grand Duchy. That’s messing with my brain.

[@brittakriep2938]

Why? There had been a lot of Grand Duchies in german and italian language region. Luxemburg, once part of HRE, and from 1815 to 1866 part of Deutscher Bund/ German Federation is simply the last one.

[@ihatebofa6]

@@brittakriep2938 He called it a duchy instead of a grand duchy. My brain doesn’t like that.

[@brittakriep2938]

@@ihatebofa6 : Didn' t notcice this, so i was astonished.

[@21kurt21]

It bugs me that you show one in the upright position and the other upside down.

[@philipdepalma4672]

The Norwegian front sight reminds me of the front sight on old H&R revolvers

[@stubby_nub]

where are you finding ammo for this????????!!!!!!!!

[@REXOB9]

Congrats on getting a sponsor, and thanks to Ballistol for sponsoring you. Long time user of their product.