CANKLOW Part 1 'ang on am gonna get killed'

[@Rotherman]

After editing this video I found a photo of the old transport café also showing the roundabout and the old pit buildings which I used for a thumbnail pic for this video, thank you to the photographer for this.

[@michaelsissons4443]

Canklow born, lived in Western Australia for 43 years. Great to see all parts of the home town. Went to Broom Valley Scholl and Oakwood Tech High School. Keep up the good work lad.

[@Rotherman]

@@michaelsissons4443 thank you Michael. I have a few ex pat followers from Australia and New Zealand.

[@mikmike5475]

You've brought back a lot of memories thank you. The place in Canklow woods we knew as 1.2.3 was called that by the kids during the war. Because the home guard had ranges there and there was numbered signs up on the hills

[@Rotherman]

at last some info thanks so much

[@hadders83.]

Thankyou for this video. My nannan and grandad Keeling lived at top of Warden St, i tear up everytime i go past still. Such a great childhood i miss them both everyday ❤

[@Rotherman]

thank you mate I feel that with ya I can assure you.

[@shirleybliss2121]

Thanks John for giving me my memories of a brilliant childhood. ❤

[@Rotherman]

Bless ya Shirley shouting across gardens to our jane when ya wa nips, ya looked like twins

[@shirleybliss2121]

@@Rotherman I have lots of old photo's my dad was always taking scenic photo's of his surroundings. I'll sort through them.

[@paul1dog]

Great Video John, I lived at 72 Rotherview Rd just just up from Garry Broomhead. There were lots of Mulkeens living in Cankow! I remember Tim Copley very well, sad to hear he passed, Ian Murray was a good mate of his. I remeber Nigel Longdon who lived across from the Hovis factory. Gavin Egley up the road from me. I remember walking to school through Lamberts orchard and nicking apples on the way through. Barry Ward, Paul & Roger Hopkins, Ian Knight, Roy Marshall, Carl Otter, Chris Windle and of course yourself Dallo are just a few mates I remember from the good old days!

[@Rotherman]

Thank you Paul, glad you liked it, and yes a few names there you mention sadly passed.

[@chrissingleton8456]

Nice one John I’ve watched all of your videos and they have made me smile, keep up the good work, ✊✊

[@Rotherman]

Hi and thank you. Incidentally are you June and Micks son and lived opposite your grandparents?

[@chrissingleton8456]

@@Rotherman yes I am 👍👍

[@chrissingleton8456]

Mick T is my uncle 👍

[@Rotherman]

He's my best mate, I'm out with him next week I'll let him know

[@chrissingleton8456]

I remember when you were both massive Northern Soul fans, tell him I really enjoyed your vids especially when you made him a starring role 👍👍✊✊

[@catherinegarratt5789]

Really enjoyed that Dallo. And a big awwwww with your memories of your family and the perfume comment xxxxxxx

[@Rotherman]

Thank you love x

[@stanleybusby3749]

great thank you mate took me way back we moved away when engine shed shut where you lived was where the anti aircraft guns where sited thats where we played our grand parents lived on castle av the chapel was just behind the end house on canklow road aunt ginny lived there Atlas street and Canklow road were for the pit workers

[@Rotherman]

Thank you glad you enjoyed it, do you mean where I lived from my Brinsworth video? as I know there was a gun emplacement behind our houses there, we called it the gun pits. I've been sent a picture of the chapel now, and also of Canklow road full of houses, from the church end all the way to Ackers shop, that brought back a few memories. Some one mentioned about houses on duncan and ellis street in Brinsworth from the Brinsworth facebook page, asking if they were pit houses, and from the canklow road picture they are exactly the same build, i knew they were pit houses anyway, probably for canklow pit too.

[@kathryngannon317]

Really enjoyed the journey to brinsworth and canklow bu6 towards the end of the video in canklow it brought a tear to my eyes when you said the only to people l loved was my mum and grandma l lost my to sons in the year 21 and 22 so so sad .l use to know to sisters in canklow Linda and Christine shepherd we met at the grape pub in the year 1968 Christine and my self we always had a bop . memories.

[@Rotherman]

Thank you, and bless you Kathryn

[@sharonsmith8532]

Brilliant video brought back a lot of childhood memories i remember everything and can still picture it now in my head i was born at 435 canklow road next door to old post office i was christened at the church that burnt down

[@Rotherman]

Thank you Sharon glad you enjoyed it, watch for the next one coming in January.

[@Rotherman]

Sharon do you have any old pictures of Canklow road and the old row of houses you lived in?

[@sharonsmith8532]

@@Rotherman yes I do somewhere I'll have a dig around I got one of my mum having a crafty fag when my sister was christened in 1964 outside canklow church

[@delboyinoz1]

Thanks mate for the memories. My mother was brought up on Bentley Street and my auntie lived on Rotherview Rd. A blast from times long gone and interesting to see it how it is now. I moved away from Rotherham in 1991.

[@Rotherman]

Thank you I'm glad you liked it and your comments mean a lot.

[@missyjet5177]

I’m impressed with how clean streets look x

[@rosiecatbandit]

I think he toured after our big wind storm 😂

[@daviddalton3567]

Memories of Canklow. I used to go to school there. Near the river/bridge was a Scout hut I was not allowed to join because I did not have a uniform..probably saved me from some depravity lol. Have some relatives in the graveyard of St Georges Church. My dad John (Jack) Dalton was a renowned snooker/billiards player in the Rotherham area and used to play in the WMC in Canklow. Remember the slag heap there , was not long after the war then and me and my Mum used to take an old Wilson pram to pick small pieces of coal from the heap like many other folk then, we had to push it back up the hill to Brinsworth. Remember the miners walking slowly back home after their shifts totally black . No showers at the mines in those days.

[@Rotherman]

I could listen to you for hours David

[@mikmike5475]

I remember Kenny Vigrass and John prinzivally my younger brother was at school with them. Johns Sister Catarina was in my class at alma road juniors.

[@Rotherman]

Hello all thank you so much, I've had 67 messages to my phone and messenger about this video on the 1st day not one bad thing said about it, words of gratitude fail me you've been very kind, just to look round as I did, as some who cant get there or live away now etc. I've been asked to do some more, I thought it may be a little too long with me crap anecdotes but some found them sweet, (I thought I was the weirdo lol?) so I think there's a part 2 on its way, watch for it coming. for now Al Sithi

[@mikmike5475]

No pal. Not weird at all. Before that school was built in the woods there was a big hill where we went sledging in winter. There was a path besides the woods that led all the way up to the corner of Boston park. Where there were the ruins of an old house I knew as witch Hazel's house. I look forward to part 2

[@Rotherman]

@@mikmike5475 thank you people have been so supportive and kind worded, which makes me want to do the part 2.

[@deedahinkent]

Eyup pal just come across this vid I'm from sheffield but lived in Rovrum for 20 years till I moved darn south in 2019 always drank in Rovrum tho as pubs suited me better, this reminds me of northern soul in canklow club early 90s i think brilliant nights ! good luck with de channel pal 👍

[@Rotherman]

Cheers mate I'm learning. Glad you enjoyed it. Check out the town centre ones they will be an eye opener for ya.

[@susanswales8313]

Atlas street was the start of Canklow, if you look on the old ordnance survey map that are available either at Clifton park museum or the Library you will be able to see where everything was. The houses on Rother view Rd were demolished the council told us due to subsidence. I lived in one of those houses, now moved into another Canklow house, there was nothing wrong with most of those demolished. Thats a whole other story.

[@Rotherman]

hi Susan, Thank you. I've seen some old maps on the net and they listed canklow atlas street and all the golf links as canklow back then, I think whenRotherham became a metropolitan borough they altered the boundary line. I maybe wrong but that's why I like people to add comments so I get to know too.

[@mikmike5475]

At the beginning before Harrison's a company called XRE was there it stood for ex royal engineers. Just by the garage was a factory that made crisps called Star crisps. Where the McDonald's car park is was the pit managers house (I remember walking round it when I was a kid). I was born in 327 Canklow road in the 50s 3 years later Jack and Edith did a deal with my dad because they wanted to extend their shop at 325. So we moved next door to 329.

[@Rotherman]

where would 327 be then and the shop, was it the one I said was Ackers? and why Ackers was it their name, its just things pop in my head when I'm in places, on the side next to the hotel there was a shop and I thought Joans shop but didn't say it cos I wasn't 100% but Shirley me old mate confirmed it in a message lower down. and I do now remember the XRE on the dog leg bend I think you could access it by a turn in.

[@mikmike5475]

@@Rotherman 327 was on the side opposite from the pub the shop you called ackers 325 was directly inline of where the school is now between there and the then street junction was the workshop of XRE. The high capped wall you struggled through the trees for. Was actually the back wall to the yards of those old houses. When the bypass road was first built you could see the whitewash and other paint from the outside loos that were for the properties. As you look towards the canklow hotel (now KFC) to the left of there on the same side as the hote was house's. The Chipchases lived in one of them. David Chipchase was my best friend until the tragedy that happened with his family. Jack an Edith who owned the shop were a pair of characters ( I've got some amusing memories of them) Like I said. You're little film brought back so many memories. We moved from 329 when I was 8 to broomvalley ( because of dads work) for a couple of years then back to canklow to Town street.

[@andyillingworth3905]

@@Rotherman 327 would be about across road from the KFC. My mother in law lived at 321

[@susanswales8313]

There was also a paper mill down there too, made paper bags etc

[@mikmike5475]

@@andyillingworth3905 that's right. Ackers ( Edith and Jack) shop was originally at 325 at the corner of Canklow road and another street who's name escapes me.

[@shirleybliss2121]

That is Warden Street, Fred's chippee has gone, I used to work in Chinese that you mentioned.

[@susanswales8313]

Hi Shirley, I too worked in Ocean City. Sue Swales.

[@johntimbrell]

Where Job lot is now was a prominent landmark of Bentleys Brewery, Type in Bentleys Brewery, Rotherham to see a photo. It was so prominent that you can also see it from where Westgate joins High Street in Old Photos. I must be bloody old because I used to spend Christmas there in the 1950s?1960s.

[@Rotherman]

Yeah I knew that it will be mentioned in my next one. Seen the pics but can't use em as they're copyrighted.. I'll have another scan to see if I can find one. Thanks John

[@coxwalls]

Thank you john can you remember a lady by the name of squaw cb handle , and baby duck , had long black curly hair think she had something wrong with her legs , my name is tony cox mum used to own roundabout cafe from 1982 she sold it to Mc Donald’s and all the land , hope this helps

[@coxwalls]

Sorry john mums name was phyills cox

[@Rotherman]

hiya Tony sorry don't remember your dear mum, I left Brinny in 1982 by that time I was 22 Harrison's had closed I think, our mates mum worked in the kitchen serving blokes meals in the 70s and in school holidays we used to go for our dinnertime bag of chips they were like them from when del boy goes on that jolly boys outing and uncle albert comes out with that massive bag lol.

[@coxwalls]

Lol we moved up from Margate 😂

[@rosiecatbandit]

At approx 34:00 we see the mascot pink octopus 😅 You're in for a shock if you come back in 5 years as the council is building an adult day centre with allotments and assisted living which will clean up the area that's been tipped and be built on the free land up center path.

[@susanswales8313]

Thats going to be on Warden street, there are to be bungalows too.

[@shirleybliss2121]

Barbers, was on corner of castle avenue, then Davis shop.

[@susanswales8313]

Davis shop was on the opposite side on the corner. It was where the grey painted shop is now,

[@J0nny61]

Do you remember all the turds floating down the Rother at the Canklow bridge in the late 60's?. I was born in Brinsworth 1961, so know all this history. Great video for me.

[@Rotherman]

No... Lol

[@Kinbstdds]

Was the transport cafe called Mac’s? Think the new houses were built as part of a housing regeneration programme to replace older housing that was demolished in the area. Think they date from about 2012ish.

[@Rotherman]

@@Kinbstdds I've no idea bud, but there's a guy on here commented called Tony says his mum owned it in the 80s

[@mikmike5475]

The church was a methodist church ( i was christened there) I knew the lad who burned it down. He did it because he tried to join the Sunday school and they wouldn't let him.

[@ffrtheted7671]

The garage on Canklow roundabout was called Dollbys and café was "roundabout cafe" sadly knocked down in 1999 an yes it was for pit pony's an yes it was ackers shop the church was a Chapel the wall runs alway alongand u can still see the white wash painted on it because that's were the outside toilets were❤

[@Rotherman]

Thanks, since the vid I've learned a lot more, a guy who follows me and commented on here says his mum owned it and still has many photos, thank you for your input, that's what these vids are all about finding out more history.

[@janecampbell1705]

Yes community centre was there also further up the path was the old St Lukes Church it was a big wooden structure

[@missyjet5177]

Jack and David’s dad was also called Jack

[@Rotherman]

I thought it was

[@daviddalton3567]

At school in the 50s headmaster I think was Mr Turner. There was a woodworking teacher Mr Warner . They lived in houses near to St Andrews Church in Brinsworth .

[@daviddalton3567]

Remember Wrigleys buses (charas) from Maltby to Sheffield passing through Canklow and also a stop at the top of Bonnet Lane. In the 50s......memories also of Freddy Trueman practicing in the nets at Hadfields sports ground between Brinsworth and Tinsley..

[@shirleybliss2121]

After they pulled houses down I remember there being car showrooms there, that wall separated the woods from Canklow Rd, you are on Canklow Rd. Remember Joan's sweetshop on corner .

[@Rotherman]

was that wall end of the back gardens then Shirley?

[@shirleybliss2121]

Yes it would have been, if I remember rightly one of my many school mates lived in them houses, Pete Bastiman and Nigel Longden whom I'm sure you must know, I think he was younger than me.

[@Rotherman]

@@shirleybliss2121 I remember Nigel Longden I'm sure he lived opposite us on rother road but having said that I was only going on 6yrs old cos it was me 6th birthday as we moved to brinny, but you remeber em from schooldays anyway.

[@mikmike5475]

@@shirleybliss2121 Nigel Longdon was a mate of mine we knocked about when we were younger You're right about the walls being at the backs of the houses. Only we had yards not gardens ( Canklow woods was our garden 😁) the outside toilets were by those back walls.

[@mikmike5475]

@@Rotherman Nigel was a mate. We knocked about when we were youngsters the family moved to Bentley street.

[@daviddalton3567]

Great videos.. You are getting plenty of exercise....reminds me of when we were younger we walked everywhere and thought nothing of it . Saturday nights in town a few beers to get up the courage to dance then walking back to Brinsworth ...

[@Rotherman]

So true!

[@matthewhaigh1650]

Your Aunty Flo's house was bought buy her Grandaughter (Jean Freeman and Peter Monks's Daughter) at the top of Bentley Street/Rotherview road

[@Rotherman]

Hiya I remember that now you say it as I saw Jean and Pete early 2023 and they did tell me that. Funny I remember things from all them yrs ago, but recent stuff escapes me.

[@rosiecatbandit]

Ok I had no idea that the lintel for the tunnel was there on the side of cliff face. Going to have a look. I can't imagine covering over something so interesting.

[@rosiecatbandit]

I never put it together that the old wall would have been in the front of houses continuing from the wall already there. Were the houses same as the terraced pit houses?

[@Rotherman]

@@rosiecatbandit they were different to the ones already in place opposite KFC similar to the ones on Duncan street at brinsworth. Prob pit houses as the pit was at the end of Canklow road. When they demolished the houses about 5 car sales set up from wood end right up to mcdonalds. So where the houses were living rooms kitchens etc they are now trees grown in their places. Very wierd to think they was once about 50 houses there.

[@Rotherman]

It's because that area was bang flat but canklow Road used up at side of it as in the thumbnail pic. So basically they it's risen to flow with the terrain I think there was 2 doorways that lintel is just one if em but that sure is the place

[@Rotherman]

@@rosiecatbandit the houses didn't have a front wall like the one opposite KFC they were basically on the roads edge, the doors didn't go straight onto the kerb though, if you know what i mean there was a pitch before the kerbs. Those walls are the back of the house yards so over that wall was the wood. i'd love to see some old photos of them now havin said all this.

[@shirleybliss2121]

Mill St across from Hovis, then Robinson Street then Jubillee Hill.

[@Rotherman]

wow Shirley lass I ought to have took ya with me, you'd prob have found me that church. I wa looking for that for 25 mins lol had to cut it out

[@stuartwildridge5822]

We moved to Rother view Rd in 55, from 58 on I was there at various times. Are you still in Rotherham, if so we could arrange a meeting.

[@Rotherman]

Yes Stuart I am, I'd like a chat about your memories.

[@daviddalton3567]

Greatt video is the Atlas pub still there ?

[@Rotherman]

The Atlas is long gone I'm afraid its flats with shops underneath now you can see them on my Brinsworth revisited part 1 video

[@andrewlait542]

I lived in Warwick st Rotherham I use to like doing Duff's like jumping off high walls onto a mattress ha ha 😂 good old times in the early 80s new flats I reckon for all the migrants or foreigners building for there future I suppose

[@janecampbell1705]

We lived at bottom of the park steps opposite Jubilee street (Plant)

[@Rotherman]

My mate lived there Dianne Plant are you her sister?

[@susanswales8313]

Hi Jane, this is Sue Swales.

[@janecampbell1705]

@jaydedee3913 yes I am

[@janecampbell1705]

@susanswales8313 hi Sue I hope you are keeping well xx

[@susanswales8313]

@@janecampbell1705 hi Jane yes , I am well. I hope things are good at your end ?

[@totenvt]

we used to laugh about Canklow " thems eat people ova thea" it aint changed much lol

[@Rotherman]

Lol actually it's changed a lot in terms of housing, the new housing the pub and club gone, hovis gone, dual carriage way added, and the fuel station where I started the video was demolished 2 months after making this video.

[@coxwalls]

John I have loads of photos inside and outside of mums cafe ,roundabout cafe ,

[@susanswales8313]

I worked in the Roundabout cafe whenI first left school, I still live in Canklow.

[@Rotherman]

a mate of ours his mum worked in there which would have been 73/4 ish her name would have been Burton we used to get our dinnertime bags o chips there in the summer holidays

[@Rotherman]

Tony i'd very much like to see some of your photos of the café if that's ok with you.

[@andyillingworth3905]

Its really sad when i place becomes mostly unrecognizable. I was brought up in Parkgate, it now somewhere thats gone down the pan i tend not to associate myself with anymore lol

[@Rotherman]

I don't know anywhere actually in Rotherham Andy that hasn't gone through change, some good and needed, some not unfortunately .

[@michael10662]

my dad lives on Bentley street

[@stuartwildridge5822]

When & where.

[@Rotherman]

I've sent a message to yiu on messenger

[@janecampbell1705]

There is jubilee street

[@Rotherman]

yeah i had to google earth it today as someones sent me a message about the same thing.

[@shirleybliss2121]

Wernt there an arch door further up past mcdonalds? ?

[@Rotherman]

if you remember shirl the ground where macdonalds is was flat, and just went up to about a 5 foot banking, but now look how high its set, I just remember 1 or 2 doorways in the cliff no arch door the jesus college door set into the wall at boston park is arched ya not getting mixed up with that in ya head are ya?

[@shirleybliss2121]

@@Rotherman No love, I know there's one at the Boston park bowling green as was, but I'm sure there was also one at Canklow roundabout.

[@stuartwildridge5822]

You don't know much about Canklow roundabout pre 70s

[@Rotherman]

Pre 70s Stuart I'd be under the age of 10, so yeah you're prob right I didn't, however I'm saying what I knew as a kid when we could venture out in the 70's, and from the comments from others, I've learnt about the pit and the buildings belonging to other companies, the managers house where the lorry park was, and the tunnels. I welcome all comments as I've said, I've no one to ask now any history as my family elders have passed on. People are messaging me personally. Perhaps you could add some knowledge yourself so we can benefit from it.

[@shirleybliss2121]

Wernt it 321 small square pond.

[@Rotherman]

123 shirl

[@mikmike5475]

123 was the three hills by the concrete structure that was the old butts (which was were the targets for the range was)