Hey Griffin, thanks for the insights on the differences. Really useful to see what kinds of things you're getting for the price diff. The practical details you call out are super helpful.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Curtis Judd thanks so much for checking out another video Curtis. Really appreciate it!
@JesseDriftwood4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks for the info :)
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
JesseDriftwood thanks for checking out the video Jesse. I’ve been subbed to your channel for a while. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@ConnorDrummond234 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. We just got our 500ii and excited to use it with our 200.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome Connor! They are both great cameras and make an excellent a-cam / b-cam setup
@MartenKaehlert4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed comparison😀
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Marten Kählert thanks for commenting and checking it out Marten!
@pbfilms63564 жыл бұрын
Thank you Griffin for putting this together! You really helped narrow down the differences between the two cameras in the real world. I love my C200 but we are renting a C500 for a trip to the UK next month so I'm excited to get my hands on one and shoot with it.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! If you like the c200 chances are you will love the c500 Mark ii. What type of project are you going to be shooting?
@pbfilms63564 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway I'll be shooting corporate videos, a documentary we are working on (actually, we are renting a C500 in London in a couple of weeks so can't wait to try it out!) and weddings. Reason we need the C500 is that we are trying to keep the footage 6K to match the Red footage we've already shot. I am also bringing my C200 for 4K RAW as well.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a fun project. Curious what you thoughts are after shooting with the red and the c500 ii. I shot on a red for a project a few weeks ago and I liked the c500 Mark ii so much better. Drop me a comment and let me know how it goes once you finish up!
@KevinConwayChannel4 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Conway thanks Kev!
@ArthurRosaTV4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, man. Just the music that is a little distracting.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video Arthur
@GenZInvestor4 жыл бұрын
I was looking into getting one of these, thanks for the excellent explanation
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome, glad you liked the video. It’s an amazing camera so I’m sure you will like it!
@stalman4 жыл бұрын
Great review. How do you like to monitor raw footage on your C200 when shooting raw? The lack of clog2 has made it a real struggle to create a monitor lut
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Tyler Stalman thanks for checking it out Tyler. I’m a fan of your channel and the content you make. The way I typically monitor the c200 when shooting in raw is switch the color space to bt709 and pay attention to the waveform and zebras. I usually set the zebras to 5% and 15% and try to keep the bottom two stops empty (as long as nothing is clipping on top of the waveform). Crimson engine has a really good video on this. Unfortunately though, there isn’t a way to add a stylized lut to an external monitor and accurately judge your exposure. I think it is more accurate to use the built in canon lut.
@stalman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks @@GriffinConway! It's so frustrating that the output isn't straightforward on the C200. For example if using the CanonLog3 preset, whatever the signal is coming out of HDMI and SDI, it's definitely not log. But the workflow all the pros using Alexa and Red describe is that creating a monitor lut they can trust is critical, but they're able to actually monitor the signal they're capturing. It all drives me crazy
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
@tylerstalman right there with you! Super frustrating for sure and actually one of the main reasons I am considering purchasing the c500 Mark ii (you can monitor in clog 2 which is what the raw imports as in most NLE’s). I’m not sure about all monitors, but I know the ninja v converts the signal to “video level” instead of full level which is what I believe the camera is recording when in raw mode. This basically makes it look more contrasty than the log image for some reason. I don’t know enough about it to accurately explain, but there is a really good article I found here: www.thepostprocess.com/2019/09/24/how-to-deal-with-levels-full-vs-video/ Hope this helps Tyler!
@jeffreyfleming40164 жыл бұрын
Really nice video, thanks so much😊👍
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
jeffrey fleming thank you Jeffrey!
@richardbeasley90843 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are so good.
@kennieorsted4 жыл бұрын
Thanks super video... i own a c33 mkii - and want the 500 mkii... big jump moneywise though :-)
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking the video out! I agree it is a big jump. If you think the extra features will help you do your job more efficiently or higher quality then it may be a good move, but if you won’t use the extra features it probably makes sense to stick with the c300 Mark ii!
@FilmCrafter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Great tips & insights!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
FilmCrafter thanks for checking it out, I appreciate it
@Phonothek4 жыл бұрын
Great Review! Im still in a conflict of "upgrading" from my c200. May I ask what LUTs you have used? Keep up the good work!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Alexa lut with some real and orange. C200 is still a beast. I am definitely considering the c500 ii though!
@cruachfilms4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t think the C500II is $10k better than the C200
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
I think for a lot of people it won’t be...but for those that will greatly benefit from the workflow and save time in post could make their money back pretty quickly
@hunterbuchanan24 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! So helpful
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hunter, glad you enjoyed it!
@TheSpecialist---4 жыл бұрын
I agree but is it worth double the price of the c200??? Is the image quality twice as good??? Probably not. The c200 and c500 mark ii raw in 4K have the same bit rate. It’s only when you shoot 5.9k the bit rate increases which is obvious. I own a c200 and no camera on the market in that price can match the quality and bit rate in raw
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Jean pierre Maurel image quality is definitely not “twice as good”...in fact in some cases it is almost exactly the same. The c500 Mark ii presents some benefits that will make sense for certain productions, but for the majority of people the c200 will be a much better value.
@TheSpecialist---4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway thank you for the replay.... great video by the way..I was impressed by your video!! Keep up the good work 🤟👍👍👍
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheGlassEyeTV4 жыл бұрын
Great overview! So just to confirm - the C500 mk ii does not have the instant touch to focus/tracking like the EOS R and 1DX or it does?
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking the video out. Unfortunately the c500 Mark ii has “two-touch” tracking like the c200, not “one-touch” tracking like the 1dx Mark ii.
@TheGlassEyeTV4 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway thanks. Oh that's too bad...
@josephberkeley4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review, Griffin. Quite good. I learned a lot. I enjoy your content as it is informative and well done.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Joe Berkeley thanks a lot Joe, appreciate the positive comment!
@humanspartyofindia28863 жыл бұрын
i seen your video about C70 vs C200, but in that you consider many things like usability and practicality. But i mostly look just image quality only. Canon placed c70 below c200. c70 launch price is around 5.5k were c200 launch price is 7.5k. The colors from c200 is way better. Also c200 has more cinematic look. So apart from the files size problem, i think c200 is best deal for 5.5k$. What you think
@SebastianDrzewiecki4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for sharing.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Sebastian! Glad you enjoyed it.
@matthewk70134 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that comparison. If you can compare the C200 with the 1DX Mark III would be nice🙂And in the future C200 to the EOS R5 when she is released into the wild.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
fb & Co | Digitales Marketing I get my 1dx iii on Monday so I plan to get a little time with the cameras and make a comparison video for sure! Anything specific you would like to see?
@matthewk70134 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Dynamic Range and colors would be nice.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Cool I will be working on this one pretty soon. Thanks for the input!
@joshdiditt4 жыл бұрын
Let me come work alongside you, lol. Columbus, Georgia sucks for film.
@blainesiesserphoto4 жыл бұрын
Good thoughts Thanks Griffin!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@cwinasia4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brother, great breakdown and companion piece to the C500 2 review. Really helps let me know what to expect if I switch over. I know what you mean about the s35 v FF, just that extra level of richness. Have you watched Dark on Netflix? I believe it’s the LF , but to my eye I felt like I was watching my old Mamiya 67 contact sheets come to life. Made me want to move back to a larger sensor. I also like the ability to get anamorphics in there, does it natively desqeeze?
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking the video out Christopher! I haven’t watched dark but I will have to check it out. I love the mini LF, that’s my dream camera. Regarding the desqueeze, you can choose 1.3 or 2x in camera and it will display it properly on the canon monitor.
@cwinasia4 жыл бұрын
🙏😄
@iPhoneEisi4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I‘m a c200 user and not really sure if the upgrade is worth the cash. Could you shoot some outdoor side by side daylight shots? To see the difference in DR und overall image quality. Thanks man!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Eisi unfortunately I had the camera on rental for 2 days, one of which I was shooting a project all day so I couldn’t do any testing. I did manage to shoot the two cams side by side and they look really similar with the main difference coming from the sensor size and depth of field
@damiencooper4 жыл бұрын
I would've loved to see some outdoor DR test. backlit with some clouds in the back. I shoot a lot of my stuff backlit and wonder if the C500 has better DR. But watching this and the C500 video you put out I feel like there really isn't enough image quality improvement to justify the price. A decent chunk of the features I just wouldn't use and the lack of slow motion just makes this camera very undesirably for me personally
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Ya it’s definitely lacking if you use 120p a lot. For me, I like anamorphic shooting and also full frame and mostly use 24p and 60p so it’s perfect for me. There’s not a huge dynamic range difference when shooting raw, but the shadows/blacks are much cleaner and the XF-avc codec is great when you want very similar quality but with way smaller files.
@damiencooper4 жыл бұрын
Griffin Conway why way smaller? Can you choose different compression rates? The XF-AVC in the C300III is 810mbit at 4K60 🤔
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
True the 810mbs for the c500 60p is similar to the 1gbs of the c200, but usually I only use 60p for about 10-20% of my shooting. At 24p it is only 410mb which is less than half the file size
@brianc.20284 жыл бұрын
Hey Griffin, thanks for a great comparison video! I recently purchased and have been using the C500 II for a few weeks now but can't for the life of me import LUTs. Did you have any issues with this? The menu page that allows for importing LUTs is grayed out and I was wondering if you might know what I might need to do to fix this issue. I've called Canon and they are looking into the issue. Thanks for any help you can give.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Brian C. Hey Brian, I think Charles Zablan from canon has a video coming on this topic. He posted something in the c500 Mark ii group on Facebook. I know the luts need to be made in davinci
@brianc.20284 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Thanks for the replay Griffin. I'll head over there and check it out.
@elischaller10424 жыл бұрын
Deserves way more subscribers.
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Eli!
@DubstepNL3 жыл бұрын
Hello Griffin. Is the Canon eos c500 PL The same as the c500 in your video? Many thanks. Awesome content.
@GriffinConway3 жыл бұрын
The camera in the video is the c500 Mark ii. I believe you are referring to the original c500
@DubstepNL3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway @Griffin Conway Yea, i thought so. I saw one second hand for around 3000 euro's ( Living in holland ) I make myself so excited to get on hold of one of these camera's! Been making videos back in the days a lot. And i love it. Now i'm saving money to get a really nice camera soon. At first i had my eyes on the Blackmagic and GH5. But i could not really decide between these to. Also i really prefer a ergonomic and robust body, And the Canon C versions just looks perfect for me! Also the many options and quility of the Canon is really really nice. Btw. On wich hardware do you edit your video's? Im really choosing between a good PC versus a Mac. I personally think the PC is underrated for this kind of work. But i'm looking forward to the future and a Macbook perhaps lasting longer. Any thoughts on this? Maybe a good idea for a video if you havent allready haha. :') I am in love with the c500. But 7500,- euro's maybe is a bridge to far, concerning that the c200 also delivers great footage. MAN, im stuck in the film making playground hahaha. Any tips or advide on a young film maker is truely appreciated! Kind regards and take care from Holland.
@Phonothek4 жыл бұрын
also one question, is it possible to shoot FF 6k on the xf-avc codec as well or just in raw?
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Bastian Kempf full frame 6k raw is available, and full frame 4K XF-AVC 10 bit 422 is available, but not full frame 6k in Xf-avc
@tunatech4 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Griffin but is it worth the 10k difference
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Robert Dettling hey Robert, thanks for the comment. For most people, the answer will be no, it is not worth the extra money. The c200 is still an amazing camera for the price, but for a select group of users the benefits of the c500 Mark ii will make it worth it
@GearZenChannel4 жыл бұрын
Why can't you just get a 1.33 anamorphic for the C200?
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gear Zen, you definitely can. That is a great solution. I was more referring to the fact that there is no built in desqueeze and also the sensor is not designed to take a 2x squeeze like most of the popular anamorphic lenses.
@begemunizsousa2 жыл бұрын
do you shoot the footage of c200 in ninja v ?
@rhubarbfilms4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the C500 mk2 has more in common with the C300 mk2 than the C200
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
I would say it is like a hybrid of the raw capabilities of the c200, with the strong xf-avc codec like the c300 mk2, with the added bonus of swappable mounts, stabilization, full frame sensor, and and anamorphic capabilities.
@SuperDoggykong3 жыл бұрын
Are you filming for DC? Why is the video so dark
@shadoworksfilms4 жыл бұрын
Gosh... it's almost like the C500 costs twice as much. *Rolls Eyes*
@Rolypopoly4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Maybe Canon were listening to you, as the latest C200 firmware lets you use both HDMI and SDI outs simultaneously
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Roly Osborne I saw that! So stoked on it, that’s a nice workflow improvement.
@ChrisFrancis4 жыл бұрын
good job dude, thanks for making this video and sharing your experience with the cams!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Chris Francis thanks Chris!
@jeffreyhong61914 жыл бұрын
looking mistyyyyy on this one dude! Thanks for all the insight on this. It helps a lot knwing the different use cases on each camera, when and where to use each, etc. The C200 is still a beast and has its place in the market today!
@GriffinConway4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Hong exactly! What’s better a hammer or screwdriver? Both are good tools for different jobs