Canon meets fanon…|Undertale|PT.1

[@kurochixx2561]

¡UPDATE! I might not continue this video with a part 2,due to the fact that I lost the video while still editing it (along with other projects I did) so sorry if there’s still no part 2,but I will try and maybe remake this video with a slower pace for you guys to read,some music and follow a bit of the suggestions made in the comments. Sorry to keep all of you waiting 😢

[@V1TAL1TY-]

Fun fact: if you do genocide too many times, Chara gets weirded out by YOU. calling you a psycho and stuff.

[@SanselProXD]

i knew that but good fact

[@monkeycrimson6087]

"don't you have anything better to do?"

[@dinamoon9709]

And people will still blane Chara

[@user-cz4bk8ed7m]

Yep

[@PinkyPinkuPinko]

Ooh thats cool! :D

[@fireofgoldengamer9399]

I want to point out that; Official Frisk and Canon Frisk are completely different. Official Frisk is under the player. That way cause them appear muted most time until they resists against player's control. While Canon Frisk may have no player's influence, that allows them to talk freely as they wish. While fanon Chara is definited well, yet Canon Chara is a dead first fallen that happened to be Geno Player's enemy. See, on end of geno route, Chara "erases" or "reset" the timeline by disconnecting player from the timeline. That forces them to move different timeline.

[@ExDixionconderoga]

Frisk moves on their own sometimes in genocide

[@gamingwithleon7891]

@@ExDixionconderogathat’s cause chara was controlling them.

[@AntError_exist]

No? Thats Literally Fanon One.@@gamingwithleon7891

[@Incetarum]

@@AntError_exist i thought it was bc chara caught on to the whole genocide thing, bc theyre a gullible child, but ok

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

​@@Incetarumchara is not a child anymore because she died when she was a child and since a day when she died a lot time has been passed which could mean what chara could has been grown up in her nature in a look of course she would stay as a child because ghost can't get old but who said what she can't grown up in the nature

[@kuvxwbmas62]

Fanon chara: Sadistic Murderer Canon chara: *sup I’m the narrator*

[@Somesomeso]

NarraChara is a highly supported fanon theory. Doesn't make it canon. It's like making Gaster canonically Sans and Papyrus father cause everyone likes the theory. That's not how canon works. Things aren't canon just because the fans like it. Only thing that's canon is what is confirmed in the game, and there is just as much working against NarraChara as there is working for it. Chara having killing intent is an actually confirmed thing in the game. Keep fan theories out of canon.

[@Sandrone5225]

@@Somesomeso It's not Fan theories it's cannon narra chara. Frisk when she looks at the mirror in pacifist run: It's still you Frisk when she looks in the mirror in genocide: Its chara

[@Somesomeso]

@@Sandrone5225 Gonna post my reply in parts since KZbin keeps seeing something up with it. You mean the dialog that is specifically to reference Chara in genocide, which only proves they are with us "IN GENOCIDE". Using such genocide dialog as NarraCharatheory proof is really loose and if that is all the evidence, then it is not evidence for anything. If red text was so prevalent for Chara being the all time narrator, then why don't we see it used in narration in any other route besides full genocide? And no I'm not talking about flavor text or special ones. Clearly that distinction was made for a reason. There is literally no other reason to make Chara speak directly in red text unless it was meant to acknowledge them talking directly. It adds nothing to the story or atmosphere for the text to change colors for them, other than to show that now we are hearing directly from Chara, not a narrator.

[@Somesomeso]

@@Sandrone5225 Chara being plain antagonistic is the same amount of non-canon as Chara being good as well, though them being an the aforementioned is more heavily supported even though most like to make excuses for why they weren't. It is all speculation about a character that we are only properly introduced to in genocide. And when we are introduced to them it's with them encouraging us to keep going, counting down monsters remaining, and doing all these things while speaking in red text. And yes, I believe Chara can speak outside of red text, but the red is clearly meant to be showing exactly when Chara is really present. The narrator doesn't even speak in the same mannerisms as Chara and Chara only mentions "My bed, My drawing.", things like that, in Genocide. Why don't they say those things in pacifist if it is Chara doing the narration? Do they just decide to not recognize their own stuff in one route for no apparent reason? But oh, they woke up without remembering and only started remembering things over time, even though they apparently remember much more random things. Even the narrator knowing things that there is no way Chara would know is somehow evidence to support the theory. And if Chara remembers when we do a true reset, why don't they remember things they already know and mention it? Seems like a missed opportunity to present Chara as the constant narrator by making it obvious to people who already have finished the game once. You'd think they'd want to make it clear at that point that Chara is, in fact, with us. Not doing so is either to make it obvious that it is not true or it is just really messy story writing, which we all know Undertale isn't.

[@Somesomeso]

@@Sandrone5225 And why does Flowey not acknowledge Chara directly in any other route besides genocide? When we finish all the creatures and Toriel, why is that the only time he flat out acknowledges Chara existing? You'd think that Chara would make their presence known to Flowey, or even Asriel, at the end of the true pacifist route. If an innocuous character like Nabstablook can supposedly acknowledge Chara's existence like NarraCharatheory like to say, why can't a literally super character who is bending the fabric of reality acknowledge them as well? Asriel said themself in true pacifist, "You aren't [Name], are you?", which honestly greatly goes against Flowey's ability to acknowledge Chara in ONLY genocide. And I think it is also meant to make us know that Chara is not a part of our journey originally. Also kind of strange that Flowey only thinks we are Chara after we go full genocide, don't you think? Weird that he would only think to relate Chara to that. It's almost like he can recognize Chara's intent, even when they aren't really visible. But weirdly, he can't seem to do that in any other route despite Chara apparently always being there. You'd think he, or Asriel, would have been able to sense Chara at some other point. Flowey can even talk directly to the player, how can he not sense Chara? Especially since NarraCharatheory like to say that us calling to Asriel to save him was Chara coming through. That's definitely something that Asriel in his super form should have been able to acknowledge and sense.

[@hi_tobby3771]

Well I have some things to say 1: Fanon Toriel DOES Allow Sans to date Frisk, she’s just overprotective or some cases were she doesn’t allow that are because she loves her sans or because Frisk is not 18 2: Canon! Sans is very calm and chill, he does threaten in passive aggressive

[@kurochixx2561]

Oooh thanks for them

[@hi_tobby3771]

@@kurochixx2561 your welcome

[@Braindeadace]

well im pretty sure this is the most common type of fanon type and yes sans is calm and chill but this is how they made the video

[@NoneYaBuissnessOfficial]

Oh god another stereotype...

[@tslegendery5861]

SHOULD HAVE SAID *YOU BE DEAD WHERE YOU STAND*

[@nerdycookiebunny856]

1:03 “why are you still here” YOU CANT KILL WHAT IS ALREADY DEAD

[@adult_karvarshal]

Dont forget you cant kill a kid that can destroý timelines like your canon version

[@takwa_theskeleton]

1:54 Canon Sans: what the hell do you say?

[@hatingonwilliam]

I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE NO BULLYING SINCE FRISK FILRTS WITH SANS 😭 ( * mama I famous!1!1!1!1! )

[@kurochixx2561]

LMAO I DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO DO

[@arcticflames6932]

@@kurochixx2561 do one simple thing frisk would just look at fanon and say......so um you like genocide Because if anything frisk is the definition of a war vetarin her face says it all

[@arcticflames6932]

@@kurochixx2561 also i like how you made it so chara is not evil I believe that in pacifist she doesn't really like killing and chill But during a genocide i believe after realizing how much power she can get from killing she started being corrupted by hate or lov and let to her helping in the killing

[@Average_PlayerFromRBX]

I mean it makes sense but we never know if cannon frisk is just being sarcastic or just doing it just to make them happy(saying them because frisk did flirt with toriel and papyrus too)

[@hatingonwilliam]

@@kurochixx2561 GORLLLLLLL

[@TheSameGoobyGuy]

*Fanon Sans:* Frisk! You killed my brother! How could you! 😭 *Canon sans:* hmm, you’re LV is almost 20, guess you’ve been killing people **proceeds to give bad time**

[@Legoman-kn1ce]

*what everyone says would happen:* F.Frisk: "Im dating sans." C.Frisk: "i am a minor." *what would ACTUALLY happen.* F.Frisk: "Im dating sans" C.Frisk: "ive dated papyrus before" F.Frisk: "cool"

[@FaultehBoi]

CANON FRISK FACE WHEN CRINGE FRISK SAID SHE DATE SANS 💀💀💀💀💀

[@ShilohHildaInquisitorAvaFan]

Fanon, Dumbaes.

[@Srvictor82]

Fanon sans: Waaa i am so sad, i remember every reset and i know that i'll get killed over and over agaaiin, papyrus help me waaa Canon sans: yoooooo, Guess what i just found on the couch! Fanon frisk: Sans it's so sexy and i wanna date him, i don't care what people or mama toriel says! Canon frisk: -_- *You Tell sans to stop Making all the ketchup fall on your burger Fanon papyrus: I love spaghetti and i love undyne and i wanna be a royal guard!! Canon sans: What? No, I don't eat spaghetti, The great papyrus favorite food its Dinosaur oatmeal, i just give spaghetti to my friends!! Nyehehehehe Fanon toriel: My child Don't go out there because *Insert the bible here while her C A N S cover 99% of the screen* Canon toriel: would you like some snail pie before going out there, my child? Fanon undyne: Large chest Canon undyne: You call that cook? LET ME SHOW HOW TO COOK *pulls out a flamethrower* NYHAAAAAAAAAAAA- Fanon alphys: i-i am so shy and s-so weeb! O-oh undyne-chan Canon Alphys: A-anime its real, right? Fanon Mettaton: *HOT MAMA* Canon mettaton: Genderless robot star of the underground Fanon asgore: i'll destroy you, human!! All we all gonna be free!!!! Canon Asgore: Would you like a cup of tea? Human?

[@rosalyamaria8066]

Toby fox seeing his community and fandom making fanon: "Gosh what Ive been gone wrong"

[@GreyVerce]

This is the same thing every content/game creator will ask themselves when they see the actual fandom :’)

[@breadloaf1840]

At least it isnt as bad as the fnaf fandoms

[@KesleyNightmare]

@@breadloaf1840 the fanon sometimes ship chara x asriel and sans x papyrus ( did u know that sans x toriel is canon? 😀🙂🥲😢😰😱😵💀☠️)

[@breadloaf1840]

@@KesleyNightmare yeah sibling ships are horrible

[@Funletthefun]

2:31 i like how he became fanon sans too

[@kurochixx2561]

@@Funletthefun WHY R U COMMENTING ITS BEEN A YEAR

[@Bunni3_Here]

@@kurochixx2561HELLO I M COMMENTING HERE JUST IN CASE U SEE THIS HI

[@Funletthefun]

@@kurochixx2561 Because i can.

[@DatKirraQueen]

Chara's Knife: *Deals 999999999999999999999 (and probably more 9's) Damage* Me: *Ayo that's illegal someone call the dev to patch it.*

[@narrativeless404]

That's not illegal, unless it's a multiplayer game where everything needs to be balanced(which Undertale reality really isn't, and it doesn't need any nerfing as long as the power makes sense)

[@jhehalin2008]

@@narrativeless404 it was a joke 🤓🤓

[@narrativeless404]

@@jhehalin2008 Ok, and?

[@justcallmetheguywhocomments]

@@narrativeless404 well as they said it, it's a joke, didn't need to add anymore explanation to it

[@narrativeless404]

@@justcallmetheguywhocomments Also, that's not really the knife thqt has such power, but Chara themselves

[@TheBetterMythical]

Actually, any way possible that we interpret any of these characters is actually canon, as they may have their own canon personalities, but we don't know that they would cannonically react the their fanon selves like this, thus making the "canon" another fanon "canon" interpret.

[@kurochixx2561]

This is actual facts.Tbh the only « canon » version I could accept would be how Toby fox interprets it.This is only how I think they would react as them being canon.

[@Its_Mei-f3r]

@@kurochixx2561 bro this is not fandom, it's a stereotype, not all Fandom fans does shit like that in your fricking video 😐

[@kurochixx2561]

@@Its_Mei-f3r I didn’t really talked about the fandom itself here- These are just the cringe "stereotypes" we could see in SOME videos.This video is only for entertainment purposes only.

[@Nayix__n]

@@kurochixx2561 the fact that im watching this video without knowing what undertale is..

[@Moikoslab]

1:55 the best moment gg

[@Polychromatic.]

Frisk be doing the rock meme facw in the thumbnail

[@unweyrandom726]

1:54 That can't actually happen because Sans magic only hurts those ones that have "L.O.V.E" and a monster can't have (unless it's DustSans) "L.O.V.E" so that part it's kind of wrong but it keeps being a good video

[@kurochixx2561]

Thank you for that I didn’t really knew it

[@didgoofbiggor832]

No, that’s how Karma retribution works, sans magic does 1 damage but ignores immunity frames essentially making him deal 1 damage a frame

[@ricardobr1493]

1- its never said ANYWHERE monsters can't get LOVE 2- sans CAN hurt people with his attacks, it just does 1 damage 3- blasters cannonically don't push things away so you're incorrectly correct

[@Louislemairias]

And 4 we don’t fucking care we just want to see cringe Toriel get disintegrated :>

[@A_Lost_Gemini]

When I saw the thumbnail I was like… this gon be GOOOD LET ME GET MAH POPCORN READY!!

[@KRAZYKEEMSTER]

Pennywise in a nutshell reference?

[@A_Lost_Gemini]

@@KRAZYKEEMSTER no that’s an if i was in mean girls reference.

[@kurochixx2561]

Ok imma speak a lil bit here bc I keep getting similar comments and I feel like I should explain stuff So basically this is only a way I would think canon undertale would react to some of their « stereotypes ».Not all the people part of the fandom does this but I personally saw a lot.Plus,if you go to see some other « canon meets fanon » some of the stereotypes are a lil bit the same. This isn’t the real canon thing because I am not the creator of undertale in any way.And tho video is for entertainment purposes only,if you don’t like it well rather don’t watch or dislike it

[@Fireball-lc3td]

I was more worried about the speed in the video. Next time, do it a little slower. Please and thank you

[@kurochixx2561]

@@Fireball-lc3td I will dw

[@WakaWakaBeyaich]

@@kurochixx2561 u suck tbh

[@WakaWakaBeyaich]

@@kurochixx2561 u make GACHA an animation?

[@kurochixx2561]

@@WakaWakaBeyaich wdym

[@noobed9646]

I love this because it at-knowledge that chara is actually a good human the suffers and using that evil and dose not like killing.

[@MuichirouTokito416]

1:55 Thx for doing what I want to do with that Fanon Toriel

[@kuriistarothe]

I love the fact that in the thumbnail, fanon chara has that smile-

[@the.lonlyguyjoel6732]

Thats really good :O

[@CharaTheFallenChild]

Finally someone pointing out the HUGE differences between canon and fanon

[@z1zzi]

"I believe sans isn't a monster." *Visible confusion*

[@The_Nobi_OfAllNobies]

Sans is Ness! But thats just a theory... A GAME THEORY!

[@tdsgamer6786]

I like how cannon sans has one of his eyes smaller then the other that's amazing details

[@justauser6078]

Chara does find genocide to be fun, but not as much as fanon! Chara would. Canon! Chara wouldn't repeat it just for the lols.

[@aeshaahme3774]

Where did you even get that from. Chara is corrupted in genocide. They don’t like killing monsters dude. They weren’t who they were before, they aren’t the Chara who befriended and became siblings with Asriel...

[@justauser6078]

@@aeshaahme3774 >Chara is corrupted Chara, 4 LV, Ruins, genocide: * Where are the knives. Chara, 7 LV, Ruins, neutral: *doesn't give a f-* I think you got a point. * A way of measuring someone's capacity to hurt. The more you kill, the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The more you distance yourself, the less you will hurt. The more easily you can bring yourself to hurt others. It's just a way to measure your capacity to hurt. The more cruel you were, respectively, the more capable you are of hurting. * What's EXP? It's an acronym. It stands for "execution points." A way of quantifying the pain you have inflicted on others. When you kill someone, your EXP increases. On the path of genocide, you kill all the bosses with one hit. In the Core, you have 15 LV on the path of genocide, and the character is absolutely not holding back. But as soon as you fail the genocide, stop seeing "It's me, Chara" in front of mirrors, all this damage disappears. And if MTT NEO doesn't say a word about holding back on the path of genocide in the Core, after the failure of the genocide and stopping of cooperation with Chara, MTT NEO says that the character is holding back. Although LV remained the same. And even the damage is MUCH less. In what context would you put "More easily you can bring yourself to hurt others?" Would you say that's something that one with a lot of love just does naturally to anyone they meet, or would it just help if needed for a fight? It's your capacity to hurt, not your desire to hurt. The desire belongs only to Chara on the genocide route. From Frisk, we saw only the capacity to hurt, but not the desire. * A way of measuring someone's capacity to hurt. Capability and willingness is different. Just because you're no longer afraid to give someone an injection doesn't mean you'll want to give everyone an injection. Or enjoy it. It's just easier for you to inject someone if YOU choose to do it (the desire to do it is not tied to your capacity/ability to do it. Not everyone wants to do something/kill someone just because they can). * The more you kill, the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The more you distance yourself, the less you will hurt. The more easily you can bring yourself to hurt others. If you decide to hurt someone, it just makes it easier for you to do it, it doesn't hurt you mentally. BUT sadism (thus, the desire to do harm and the enjoyment of it) doesn't apply to this. Nowhere did Sans ever say that you would WANT to do harm. Just that it's easier for you. No stress, no shaking hands, no loss of consciousness, and so on. Just because it's easier for you to do it doesn't necessarily mean that you will want to do it and will do it. It will still be *your decision* to kill someone and harm them. Your desire to do this, which is not related to LV or distancing. Just because the knife made it easier for you to kill someone doesn't mean that the knife influenced your decision to do it in the first place. Whether you do it or not depends on your personal decision. But IF you decide to do it, distancing will make it easier for you to do what YOU want to do. Without distancing yourself, you would have internal tension, trembling in your hands, and so on. It's like getting used to an action. It's just that this action is murder, but in this respect it is not very different from a presentation in front of a large audience, for example. A great example is when Players can suffer during the first character death. But the more they kill these characters, the less they suffer from it. If the first time you cried during a character kill and after it, for example, then after many repeated character deaths, you do it more calmly. But since Chara is soulless, it doesn't matter in his case. Chara cannot be not soulless. Frisk is a human, and humans cannot absorb human souls. At the end of the genocide, Chara also says that Chara cannot understand sentimental feelings anymore (that you have - and you both go down genocide path, so it's not related to genocide) So, Chara couldn't feel love and compassion from the beginning.

[@justauser6078]

@@aeshaahme3774 Chara: * Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong. Chara on the second genocide path: * And, with your help. We will eradicate the enemy and become strong. Here, Chara is not accused of starting the genocide. He is guilty of supporting the genocide, helping to commit the genocide, seeing his new purpose as power through murder, erasing the world in the end simply for personal reasons, and without him the path of genocide wouldn't have existed at all. You could still kill these monsters, but it would just be another bad neutral path. The player started the genocide, but Chara happily chose to help continue the genocide and personally ended the genocide by destroying the world, thus killing all the thousands of monsters that remained. Chara has done a lot on the path of genocide, which is no better than the actions of his ***partner***. No one was controlling Chara. All these actions, especially humiliating and insulting monsters before killing them, which the Player doesn't do, by the way, is completely Chara's choice. And accordingly, he could choose to stop and no longer help, no one forced him. But he CHOSE to keep doing it, and very actively. He even felt closer to the Player here than on other paths, because on other paths you don't even know that the drawing belongs to Chara and you don't even know that Chara exists at all unless you start a genocide. So Chara could stop it at any time. He can even stop you near the Waterfall Bridge before encounter with Undyne to tell you: * Strongly felt X left. * Shouldn't proceed yet. But he chose not to stop genocide. * **Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong.** --- Chara is looking for knives ("Where are the knives"). This already shows his personal interest in finding a better weapon. It continues when you finally found a real weapon. Real knife: "About time" - equipment; "Here we are!" - CHECK. --- It is very likely that Chara helps you with his intentions during the strike against the bosses. --- Chara says Toriel is not worth talking to (if you try to talk to her), thus leading you to what you both should do: fight. --- In the Demo Chara says at the end of the Ruins: "That was fun. Let's finish the job." After that, this message also appears in the Demo manual, as far as I know. Also "Anticipation" theme. Strongly associated with Chara. --- Chara starts counting down every monster except the unique ones and bosses that you need to kill. This is how Chara makes sure that you don't miss the one you need to kill. Thus, Chara helps a serial killer by counting down the victims that the killer must kill. And it's much easier for many Players to do it the first time when they know how much is left to kill. Especially when you have to kill 40 monsters in Hotland and you don't know if you failed or not. Some Players even failed it with this counter. --- Chara stops you at the end of the Waterfall before the bridge if you haven't killed all the monsters there to say: "Strongly felt X left. Shouldn't proceed yet." So Chara tells you not to leave the location, because otherwise everything will fail. You shouldn't do it. --- Chara says "In my way" when you encounter MK. Thus, Chara sees those who stand in your way as those who stand in his way in the first place. --- Finally, Chara triggers certain battles on his own. As in the case of MK (immediately after that we see "In my way") or Asgore. Also skipping puzzles and some other things. --- Without Chara, you probably wouldn't have passed Sans, or it would have dragged on for a long time, and Chara also killed the other two creatures. Considering all this, I myself on Chara's place would say that we did all this together if I also did so many things for this killing spree success. Yes, Chara personally killed very few people, except for the destruction of the world. But he was definitely actively involved in the process of your murders to make them his own merit as well. Your help (since only you started it and made it possible) helped him in this: "And, with your help. We will eradicate the enemy and become strong." The player alone only killed the first 20 monsters. After that, the Player and Chara kill everyone together. With the bosses, Chara helps with the damage. With normal monsters, Chara tells you who to kill and stops you in Waterfall if not all the monsters are killed: * Strongly felt X left. Shouldn't proceed yet. Also, Chara also has intentions to kill them, as we can see through the narration: * Looks like free EXP - Monster Kid CHECK * Not worth talking to - "talk" with Toriel. * Can't keep dodging forever. Keep attacking - Sans CHECK * Just keep attacking - for almost the entire battle with Sans, if you do not take damage. * Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong. * And with your help. We will eradicate the enemy and become strong - for the second genocide) * In my way - as soon as the character enters the battle with MK. * Forgettable - Papyrus CHECK. * Strongly felt X left. Shouldn't proceed yet - if you don't kill all the monsters in Waterfall and get close to the bridge ahead of time. * X left - each of the save points. Obviously, if you tell a serial killer how many victims are left, it won't encourage them to continue. (sarcasm) * Where are the knives. * That comedian... - red text if you reached Snowdin before you killed Snowdrake. * The comedian got away . Failure - If you killed all 16 monsters in Snowdin, but didn't kill Snowdrake before the kill count ran out. * Wipe that smile off your face - Glad Dummy CHECK. * I see two lovers staring over the edge of the cauldron of hell. Do they both wish for death? That means their love will end in hell. I couldn't stop laughing - RG 1 and RG 2 CHECK. * About time - the equipment of a Real Knife. * The useless pile of snow - narration about "dead" snowman. * That was fun. Let's finish the job - Demo, genocide end after killing Toriel. So it is divided in this way: * Player: single-handedly killed the first 20 monsters * Chara: single-handedly killed the last three creatures and erased the world with thousands of other monsters. * Killed all the other monsters together Chara made sure that the Player killed all the necessary monsters and successfully completed the genocide. In fact, by helping the killer kill, Chara becomes an accomplice and also the one to blame for their deaths (with the Player). Like Chara said, he's our partner in the genocide, and if he's a partner, he's as guilty of it as we are.

[@aeshaahme3774]

@@justauser6078 Huh, you really like details? I mean, it’s actually nice to talk to someone who’s attentive. So... “I can’t understand these sentimental feelings anymore...” They said that AFTER a 2nd genocide. They could have meant “I can’t understand that pleasure of killing any anymore...” Because they said as well something like (I can’t remember exactly what it is but I’ll give you the short definition):- “You’re a lunatic with a wicked desire.” Well, almost close I guess? But the point is, I noticed you said the player killed 20 monsters by themselves? So, Chara kinda killed the other monsters afterwards? What is perhaps in my perspective is... and I hope you don’t find it stupid... That you are feeding Chara tutorials about: “How to kill monsters?” Chara is a mature kid for their age. And really haves a lot of potential, and has determination that I suppose they didn’t know it exactly (I’m talking about the ability of reseting which... perhaps they don’t have in the first place) So, it’s just like putting Frisk’s determination in genocide, it’s bad and corrupted. True, we don’t actually control Chara a lot, but, we seem to drag them because if we didn’t, then who in the world is translating the froggit language for us? Chara is a guid for the player. In pacifist even. They are helping you understand what froggits are saying, explaining stuff, and so on... So, thanks to the player (Cursed thanks actually...) you use their help in a twisted way, they really want to help you since you are the only person who sees them, AND the person who awoken them in the first place. With that being said, there’s another thing as well. Remember when Flowey cries as Asriel in the genocide? You can’t skip any of his words, true. BUT, when he says:- “D-Don’t kill me please!” Here is when you normally click the fight button, but, you can actually go back to the menu where you can reset, Chara literally HESITATED, if they wanted to.. they could have just enabled ONLY the fight button but no... Chara doesn’t control you a lot, they just kill monsters when you are unable to. “No worth talking to.” “Forgettable..” “In my way” “Free EXP” “Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong” ... .... ..... They are gone... lost... they are now out of reach unless you stop the genocide before killing Flowey. After a bit of killing, you made them upside down, wanting power, yes they do, wants to kill? Of course... *”Where are the knives?”* I mean, it won’t be possible for Chara to become like that unless you corrupted them, in logic, after the dreemurs greeted them. They would have killed them, but no, the liked the dreemurs which made them love Chara. And became friends and best of siblings with Asriel.... I wanted to say something, but I forgot.. (Sans reference intended) So I would’ve said more, but I’m myself thinking right now, and a bit too lazy, sooo...

[@justauser6078]

@@aeshaahme3774 * There's a reason you continue to recreate this world. * There's a reason you continue to destroy it. * You. * You're wracked with a perverted sentimentality. * Hmm. * I cannot understand these feelings anymore. **Definition of "sentimentality":** * *The definition of sentimental is a feeling of looking back fondly on memories, sometimes with a little bit of sadness or a wishing you could be back at that time. An example of sentimental is an attachment to your childhood house.* Thus, Chara talks about how we are attached to this world, and our feeling of sentimentality is responsible for this. Because of this feeling, we don't want to destroy the world once and for all, we want to go back to it (unlike Chara - "We are not the same, are we?"), and that's why Chara says ONLY when you refuse to erase the world that the feeling that prompted us to refuse is exactly what he was talking about. But this feeling is perverted, because despite this feeling, the Player continues to kill in this world, knowing perfectly well the outcome of this ending - the destruction of the world. But at the same time, we don't want this destruction of the world, and therefore we are bringing the world back. We are wracked with a perverted sentimentality. Perverted sentimentality, because of which we kill again and again in the same world, the same scenario, although we could have moved on a long time ago (Chara on the first genocide path: "Let us erase this pointless world and move on to the next"). Chara also says how he cannot understand these 'feelings' anymore. Considering that he said about a "feeling" in our soul, and not "feelings", here he talks about the fact that he now cannot feel the same warm feelings as a Player in general. Because he's soulless. **Conclusion:** It doesn't relate to your point at all. It just means that Chara wouldn't start a genocide route when it will not provide anything useful. And should I remind you that Chara destroyed the world right after that? And killed thousands of monsters by this. And how Chara is corrupted but suddenly, without any reason, stops to understand how it can bring pleasure to kill? It's at the end of the genocide, I remind you. ... Chara AND the Player killed the other monsters after the first 20. Chara killed three monsters at the end and destroyed the world with thousands monsters left. This is not true. No one translates anything. Frisk can read for himself: * (Yes, you read that correctly.) And the monsters don't speak any special language. Froggits are also able to speak normally (which they do in a New Home), and "Ribbit" in the beginning they speak for themselves. They also sometimes do it at the end, and why doesn't it translate? Because it's not a translation. And the Froggits in the New Home speak without "ribbit." The words in parentheses can mean a whisper or just a quieter voice. * OH MY GOD!!! * (IS... IS THAT A HUMAN) * (yes) * OH MY GOD!!! Or * Oh... * Oh man... ***Monster Kid turns away*** * (Man, my h-heart's pounding right out of my chest...) * (... what would Undyne do?) ***Monster Kid turns back*** * Y-you'd b-better st-stop r-right where you are... Or In the Reward Tiers Explained: * at 1000$, your fantroll will become canon in undertale. * FANTROLL??? THAT'S AMAZING! (WHAT IS THAT) Here we can see that the parenthesis mean a muffled voice. I don't think Chara "translated" here. Froggits say "ribbit" just because they want to. And how can a human know what words in these "Ribbit"? It's just an animal sound, it's not some language. ... We didn't say anything to Chara and didn't interact with Chara in any way to "push" this character. He decided to participate himself and decided to do it for the sake of power after he saw what we do. And didn't care about what monsters are telling him. Especially considering how much Chara was told that what was happening was bad, and even before the genocide began, Toriel taught you mercy. You can say that Chara is disappointed in mercy now, ans therefore doesn't accept anything but a slaughter after Asriel's actions, but not something that contradicts common sense and what Chara and Player are taught before and after genocide began, and Chara doesn't care, although this is his ex-mother. Papyrus outright offering guidance, and Chara is just... "Forgettable" *steps* Apparently, he doesn't care enough about her so that her teachings would mean more to Chara than the actions of some first comer. Or I would say that she doesn't mean more to Chara than the first person he meets, in every sense. Even purely in terms of awareness of who is more significant to Chara as a person, and not through feelings, if someone believes that Chara is soulless (which is something I believe) You can be even more awful on any other path, and it doesn't affect Chara. Again, you CAN kill a lot of monsters on the neutral path, you can be an asshole to monsters. Chara doesn't start killing. . Chara only gets involved when he thinks you're doing it for power, and that's why he wants to be a part of it. When Chara sees you doing terrible things outside of genocide path, he just doesn't care, because he doesn't see anything that could interest him. Therefore, Chara's behavior doesn't become more violent, and he doesn't take a direct part in it. **From another person:** I'm not sure if you understood my question. My question was: why do you think people on my side, people who think Chara is evil, why do you think we haven't already considered their age? I considered their age, I just don't think it matters. I'm giving you the benefit and assuming you meant children haven't developed moral compass, and you're not talking about the opposition. That's not true though. Children develop empathy as early as 2 years old and develop a sense of morality within the first four years. If what you're saying is true we'd have a lot more child murderers, but yet it's an extremely rare event. Because it's so rare it seems Chara became a murderer **despite** being a child, rather than **cause** they were a child. The lenience we give to kids is because they have poor impulse control. They break lamps, they run out into the street, they act before they think. Chara on the other hand planned to kill six people. That's premeditated murder, that can't be blamed on just being a rambunctious child. Children that commit murder are often tried as adults. The more severe the crime, the less their age matters. In Chara's case they murdered everyone in the world, including I might add, millions of children. I'm suppose to give exception to this child's crimes when become of them millions of other children's lives just got cut prematurely. I'm sure there's an explanation to why Chara is the way they are. Maybe they were just born with psychological problems, maybe they had a bad home life, but like I said, I can't imagine why that would matter. When the death toll is so high there just not any adequate excuse at that point. **Chara killed billions of people**. I can't think of a single that could make that okay, I really can't. ​ I've had lengthy conversations about this already. It's always just devolves into "But think about the children!", but I find this so wrong. It an argument where it tries to makes the perpetrator out to be a victim while ignoring the actual victims, the people they killed.

[@leaftiger12]

Me and my sisters role play the Undertale characters but we only use their cannon info and personalities. But since we are a fan of Glitchtale, we also use some aspects of that too but not on the original Undertale Characters. Example: I play Chara, and through evidence of the game, they have been abused in the passed. (if you check the faded ribbon Chara will say “if you’re cute monsters won’t hit you as hard. Implying that they have been abused by “monsters” aka their parents). So that would warrant them having C-PTSD in our role play. It isn’t cannon but it’s based on in game evidence. Also I don’t make them a megalomaniac killer because our Frisk did the Pacifist route.

[@Killuaslime]

Underrated bro this is peak🔥

[@OgSquareGod9]

I wonder what happened to chara after he or she got hit with the 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

[@Tim2540-z6n]

He died i guess 'couse f.chara is more like a ghost and we saw that its knife slash was nowhere near as powerful as c.chara and if that is true f.chara is just weak comparing to cannon who can casually interact with the fourth wall and destroy your game with one hit only to make you play the corrupted version(false Pacifist ending) endlessly unless you are messing with the game's files

[@a3r13s_kn3cnq0]

I like how Frisk cheers to the fanon frisk saying Chara is controlling Fanon Frisk.

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

They just knows how it's feels like to be controlled

[@Pinky_RRFan]

De hecho, me gusta tu diseño del Sans fanon jaja-

[@kurochixx2561]

Tysm!

[@-.0eclipse0.-]

Istg my whole fyp is “Sans when the police find out of Frans or whatever the ship’s called” *”sans being locked up”*

[@sarahkilpatrick6011]

I'm so happy somebody decided to say something about Frans and how it's wrong

[@waterdrfizz4674]

SANS TALKING IN THE COMIC SANS FONT IS WONDERFUL😁

[@idiotsandvich_22]

goodness me i love it :)

[@Animated100]

Players: *Murder an entire monster race just cuz they wanna know what happens* Also Players: It was the dead child that did it.

[@DaDrawBoi]

Nice logic there

[@NightMare893.]

The sad sans is most of the time in bad child timelines or timelines when his really depressed since we do know that his depressed but acts normal

[@iLikeWater-w6p]

Thats a pretty good cutoff because besides Papyrus and Asriel, almost none of the other characters are acknowledged much by the fandom.

[@Soup_Can_Gaming_And_More]

Congratulations, your video was worthy enough to be next to the video "machine gun grandma" on my KZbin recommendations

[@sunnyokumura8841]

It's pretty good

[@itawesome85]

G R E A T . HOW DOES NO ONE REALIZE CHARA IS JUST A CHILD???

[@Chara3690]

*I don’t know they just assume I am a demon*

[@itawesome85]

@@Chara3690 Wait- aren't you meant to be dead?? Oh yeah, ghosts can use computers i forgot--

[@Chara3690]

@@itawesome85 *I am dead and I am using a phone*

[@itawesome85]

@@Chara3690 OMG-

[@Chara3690]

@@itawesome85 *What’s wrong?*

[@GenoTheAxolotl]

You know that I think about it fanon charas personality being all evil is basically just them under the players influence

[@OneEyedFrik]

HOLLY FUCK THEY LOOK LIKE THE SAME CHARACTERS!!! (Also nice work!)

[@kurochixx2561]

TYYYYYYSSMM

[@OneEyedFrik]

NO PROBLEM YOOO! (Do you use gacha club?)

[@kurochixx2561]

@@OneEyedFrik yeah I do use gacha

[@OneEyedFrik]

@@kurochixx2561 oh cool i use it just for FNF Covers

[@eijirokirishima5375]

This is amazing!!!

[@w.s1n1]

1:05 BRO I HAD MY VOLUME ON MAX IN A BUS 💀

[@ovrwhlmd]

Toriel: ... Sans isn't a monster Me: THEN WHO IS HE??? Pretty good video, i like it :)

[@kurochixx2561]

LMAO I JUST REALIZED THAT

[@Sandrone5225]

@@kurochixx2561 Saying to a monster that they are a monster isn't an insult its an insult for only humans 😂

[@Sam._.13678]

1:55 that scared the fucking crap out of Me😭 Or maybe because I have my volume up so high :')

[@Lamzyyyyy]

I HAS MY VOLUME ALL THE WAY UP BC I THOUGHT THEIR WAS MUSIC UNTIL CHARAS PART PLAYED ON FULL VOLUME 😭

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

2:09 f sans: well not my fault what the most gacha lifers people makes me look like a human after all they are too lazy to make a fricking skeleton in gacha life C sans: huh i guess that makes sense

[@tashdidsiam2471]

I like how you made cannon sans like

[@foxdreemurr9356]

Heyo tip to punish: SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES.

[@pogggaming4470]

1:55 2:30 Times the fat skeleton (sans) has been angered

[@BreadysBread]

Finally gl undertale video where frisk doesn't speak

[@sammykisskiss_16]

0:40 I refuse to remember that i've also made that type of CHARA.

[@fleetingfondmemoriez2898]

Toby Fox: dear lord, what have I made?

[@kurochixx2561]

TODAY FOX

[@zoeyparks1st]

Can you make the speech boxes stay on the screen longer? It went by really fast lol (amazing video btw! ^^)

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

0:36 cannon frisk: it's fine i were was also controlled by the random people behind screen and also forced to do genocide

[@thinkingsimon]

Fanon sans be like: "I WILL KILL YA KETCHUP ESPRESSO DEPRESSO!!!!!!" Meanwhile canon sans: "Can you stop? Like this is getting outta hand can you just *stop?* "

[@palsintime]

“Erm actually technically🤓🤓🤓 both are actually canon because Toby fox and Temmie are able to confirm if something is canon and only them” jk this is a pretty good vid

[@Rip_killerX-X2325]

Bro you like be douma demon slayer but i like this video🙂👍

[@kurochixx2561]

Don’t rlly know what you mean by Douma Demon slayer but thank you 🙏

[@Lowbugetremakes]

Heh nice

[@FATAL._.error._.sans-true]

Im wearing headphones max volume my room was not noisey it qas peacefull them i got jumpscare and my soul left my body for 3 seconds i was just idle on my chair 1:52

[@yurilulu5500]

1:44 Toriel is a savage. XD

[@SOK39]

Fanon Toriel gives off Karen vibes….

[@ALADYBIRD]

(You nod) *frisk shakes her head*

[@kurochixx2561]

I think I forgot what nod is😰

[@Truter06]

"Now spell MONSTER" C-H-A-R-A "Wrong! The correct spilling is Y-O-U" (That's kinda true)

[@kurochixx2561]

Honestly true knowing the player is the one who chose to do the genocide route

[@adult_karvarshal]

Lesson learned dont mess with your canon version especialy chara's canon version

[@varietyaspens]

Did you intentionally make it too fast or..? /gen

[@kurochixx2561]

You can pause the video if you can’t read.Next time i’ll try keeping things slow

[@crazygamingoscar7325]

Find it a little goofy that despite them knowing fannon frisk is an adult they still get mad at fanon sans.

[@somethingsomethingsomethin-d2o]

if fanon frisk ever mentioned about dating sans i dont think canon frisk would start talkin since canon frisk has dated papyrus

[@pogggaming4470]

Not sure if canon chara is chaotic neutral or something

[@Itsshawtyy]

we need undyne asriel asgore alphys papyrus monster kid (i guess) and the dancing cockroach which makes me happy

[@wamalam]

Ok... I always see this and fanon Chara is usually more canon, and I'm happy it's not the same here And I'm gonna flat out say what I mean, Chara did not control Frisk, but Chara IS a murderer, and loves genocide, Chara is just as evil as Flowey because they have one thing in common, neither of them have souls, one's just alive and the other isn't, which makes Chara less afraid, and Flowey more afraid, cause Flowey has something to lose where Chara doesn't

[@kurochixx2561]

I really like this comment but I feel like Chara started to like genocide only when she realized the amount of power she was gaining from it

[@МаксименкоКоля]

As for me, the ratio of the levels of anger between them is approximately the following: Chara the end of the genocide> Flowey> Chara in life> Asriel. Now I’ll explain why I think that Flowey is many times more evil than Chara to death, Chara just wants to take revenge on humanity for all her pain, but Flowey torments others because this is his way of escaping the dullness of a meaningless life, Chara would have considered / considered Flowey sick in the head if they met. It is quite ironic that the one who praises Chara in such a way understands Chara the least. Just like the Undertale fandom.

[@Somesomeso]

​@@МаксименкоКоля I think you are forgetting the fact that Flowey had a lot more time to desensitize. Remember Chara was awakened from a limbo-like state while Flowey has been freely around and able to manipulate the world the whole time. There is no proof that Chara wouldn't have ended up the same way and the fact that Chara did seem to enjoy the bad so quickly when they only just awakened shows an affinity for enjoying pain more than being against it. While Flowey on the other hand had done good things at first showing that even without a soul his natural affinity was to help. Personally I think any immortal being given enough time will stop valuing anything and will just do what they want without a point to it. What's the point of valuing life if you can't even feel good about doing it? Everything very quickly starts to lose its meaning at that point which would explain Flowey's attitude. Remember we do not actually know how long Flowey had been reseting and doing other things beforehand either. The only thing we do know is that he has done every route possible and then some.

[@МаксименкоКоля]

@@Somesomeso Actually sadism is one of the two outcomes of the psyche in case of mistreatment since childhood, on a par with masochism. Actually Chara has long gone crazy, and were placed on the extermination of mankind, while Flowey behaves as befits a humanoid god: cruel and bloodthirsty.

[@Somesomeso]

@@МаксименкоКоля No bud, as much as the "Chara is abused" headcanon is a sensible one that I also think fits, it is still just a headcanon and can't be used to support another headcanon. Anything not supported by concrete evidence in the game is fanon until proven otherwise and the fact that people have to make so many ring around reasons to say Chara wasn't that bad by twisting canon game events, adding NarraChara, using other controversial headcanons, all just to fit their narrative is enough to disprove the argument being 100% fact. Also I believe methodical evil and calm is a lot more overall evil than insanity. I'd consider Flowery more of the latter while Chara is portrayed as being premeditatedly bad. Flowey does actions because there is no consequence like someone with an insane god complex, Chara does actions while seemingly being aware of the consequence, but not caring because their goal comes first. If given more time, or even replacing Flowey in his role, Chara would have likely been just as bad, if not a more dangerous antagonist given how focused they get on their goals and how little they seemed to value both their own life and that of those who get in their way. Flowey had no goal in mind for his actions while Chara is goal oriented in their own, making for a much more consistent, decisive, and cunning villain vs a loose cannon that can fail like Flowey did. And at the very least Flowey showed a value for life and death when he cried for his own life, meanwhile Chara shows a blatant disregard for existence in general as long as their goals are met, Whether that means ending their own life or someone else's. It's only because Chara's actions require our own to happen first that we can say they "aren't that bad", because unlike Flowey, who is free to be as evil as possible, Chara is limited to that space we create. It's like having two serial killers; One that was convicted and is in prison while the other hasn't been caught yet and is still committing murders. Is one technically worse than the other because they have a higher body count? Yes. But you can't just downplay the evil of the first, because they were in prison, which limited their ability to do worse. People say Flowey is worse because we don't know the extent of what Chara can and would do if given full control of their own actions. We only see them exercise that power lf control once and they literally use it to destroy the world entirely, which says a lot more about their character in favor of the idea of them being very evil. Also using, but they are just a child, as an argument just doesn't stand depending on the actions taken and why they were taken. Especially in a game like Undertale. There is a reason why there are rare exceptions of children being charged as adults in real life. That is because, though not stereotypically, there is acknowledgement that there are messed up minors out there that have more developed sense of morals and deserve a worse conviction. You need to take it case by case and look at the mentality behind the crime. A child, who again, premeditated a murder and planned it for a long time can't be put in the same category as a child that knows nothing of consequence and reacted impulsively from trauma. In fact Chara had a whole speech for themself where they mention consequence in genocide, do they not? Meaning they understand consequences much better than the innocent child gone bad everyone think they are. Saying they are a child so it's understandable that they had trauma that caused this can't hold up if said child killed like 10+ people and did their best to get away with it, can it? Temporary insanity is one thing, planning to kill oneself and taking the time necessary to concoct a feasible lie and convince someone to help achieve a twisted goal is another thing entirely. If you had a child/minor regardless of age who was manipulated by another one into attempting murder with so much thought behind it I guarantee they will be looking to charge the instigator as an adult for planning the actions so thoroughly. I don't think you'd be oh so forgiving to think about what abuse they may have suffered when it's your own kid who died in support of a evil plot like Asriel did. Sorry I know this is long but I like character studies and debating things like this. One more point I wanted to add is also about both Chara and Flowey's natural affinity to do certain actions. Despite being a soulless flower Flowey's first thought is to try and do good. He said himself that at first he did his best to help everyone and freed monsters in all sorts of way, which in my opinion shows that, despite being soulless, his first instinct was to attempt the right thing as he believed it would make him feel more to do good. Flowey had the innocent intention to try and feel when they first began. Chara on the other hand doesn't seem to give a damn about anything good or bad till we start a slaughter and their interest immediately came out of a desire to further it. But you know again "Innocent Chara" and "NarraChara" believers will go every which way to make excuses that genocide corrupted them despite the clear evidence that Chara only sticks around if you are doing full genocide regardless of if your LV is high. They even make excuses against the fact that Chara blatantly encourages making sure every character in the area is dead and stops associating with you once you fail and spare even once with remarks of your literally being a failure, which honestly if you think about Chara probably would have had no qualms saying the same things to Asriel for wanting to back out. Point is Chara's natural affinity seemed to be drawn to manipulation and violence, which in itself is very odd for a character that supposedly wanted nothing but the best when alive when sacrificing themself. Seems to me like they were just really pissed that a monster, Asriel, got in the way of their plans by going against them to defend the ones they hated most, other humans. And well, we know very well how Chara treats anything that gets in their way. Chara has shown that they only care as much as their ideals allow, anything that is against that ideal may as well be dead to them. That's pretty much the way Chara's character has been portrayed to us that every "Innocent Chara" believer has been trying to pick apart to create a nonexistent "real canon" where Chara was some kind of angel who wanted to end our genocide and was "so distraught and corrupted by it". Btw my problem isn't with people headcanoning things, it's the fact that people are trying to push the innocent Chara headcanon so much that they physically can't stop themselves from running around claiming it's canon, when in reality both the belief of Chara being good or evil are headcanon since we really don't know Chara well enough to judge properly, but one is just more supported by in game canon fact while that other is supported by a fan theory twist around of facts to fit an ideology.

[@itsjustlevicode377]

1:50 even it’s fanon she will say: sans wait till she’s 20

[@Stupide_322]

Why i keep seeing this video on my youtube but i still watch it bruh

[@Stupide_322]

Wait... NAH SANS HAVE CAPITAL WORDS

[@ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс]

2:22 f sans: oh please like you never has killed frisk for doing a genocide C sans: well yes but actually no because all this time I were killed a people behind 4th wall who were doing a reset every time and of course genocide is their own will not frisk's i murdered frisk every time because there were not any other way to kill those dirty players F sans: players? 4th wall? Reset? What a bullcrap are you saying that's not makes sense

[@12_anims_returns]

Prunsel is watching

[@youyououmf8200]

So it's genocide canon chara and genocide fanon chara.

[@juliuscayado1066]

Video has no music im not like rude cause videos without music makes me hear static

[@kurochixx2561]

Maybe next time i’ll add music

[@a3r13s_kn3cnq0]

omg i hate my f/$king my life WHY DO I HAVE SANS'S JACKET.

[@dadava2109]

Canon Frisk: gets disgusted over fact Sans dating Frisk Also Canon Frisk: dated with Papyrus

[@Cupida91]

You put F. Sans to the canon in the end

[@kurochixx2561]

I got lazy at the end sry

[@Cupida91]

@@kurochixx2561 its ok, I just say

[@kaisshenanigans]

shop at the shop

[@killerhorrordustsans]

I got anough of this time to destroy the multiverse

[@zanderiscoooool1943]

cool video but do you mind making the screen shots not switch to fast its alittle hard to read

[@kurochixx2561]

I’ll see what I can do

[@undertalefire22]

2:19 Papyrus:…

[@TheIndoraptor2009]

Tbh I thought Chara was evil at first until I watch Game Theory About it (Go figure Lol) and its the player that is evil (or not sense you could go on the Pacifist run). So it changed my Prospective about Chara. But than again it's a GAME THEORY!

[@willowEkitty]

I was NOT expecting fanon Sans to be a... Human skeleton hybrid? Idk. All I know is that is NOT a skeleton.

[@LuanAstronomy]

I hate when people makes chara that emo human-

[@kurochixx2561]

Yeah…it makes me ang

[@kurochixx2561]

Angry*

[@frostscythe910]

Chara ain't even the villain too. It's frisk 💀

[@kurochixx2561]

@@frostscythe910 tbh Frisk isn’t the villain,it’s the player.They’re just controlled

[@qhat7874]

@@kurochixx2561Dora's villain arc💀

[@itsjustlevicode377]

2:01 there goes first fanon… emo sans

[@LimynSoda]

1:35 But Toriel, *you’re* a monster

[@kurochixx2561]

@@LimynSoda LMAO

[@omargustavomalavevargas9388]

I find it hilarious how sans has the worst looking copy💀

[@cherelynalmedora8714]

good choice toriel

[@robodragon11rysowany4]

Nice episode, just a pity that characters have crooked lips!

[@kurochixx2561]

What does crooked means- (Sry I’m not actually english hehe)

[@CRUELSKELETON95]

*time paradox in the background*

[@daxcherdark9623]

Why do they always make toriel hate sans? The fact that sans knock on the ruins door and exchange jokes with toriel everyday, sans promise to toriel even if he's bad at promises, also the scene before flowey turn to asriel where toriel and sans met face to face at the first time is cute af.. and also they still joke on the deltarune! Their roomates and sans joke about "i already befriend your mother last night"... I ship them.. it kinda hurts that a lot hates my ship.

[@zowdiego9007]

Sans just BLAST AWAY st toriel