Canon R3 Final Review

We finally have a production Canon R3 and we put it to the test - AF performance, high ISO, dynamic range, e-shutter, video quality, heat management and more! Watch our in-depth review of the Canon EOS R3 to find out what you need to know.
Also watch our first impressions review of a pre-production Canon R3:
• Canon EOS R3 First Imp...
See full resolution EOS R3 sample photos from this episode:
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0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Electronic vs. mechanical shutter
2:12 - High ISO performance
3:28 - Dynamic range
4:19 - Jacket explanation
4:48 - Overheating
6:16 - Video quality
7:01 - Annoyances
7:48 - Video conclusion
8:57 - Eye-control AF performance
10:13 - Autofocus performance
11:16 - Flash photography
12:10 - Flicker reduction
12:54 - Conclusion
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[@daslalilu]

Chris: Talks about AF tracking Jordan The camera: Subject to detect - Animals

[@mcflirty]

dpreview is rife with underrated comedy XD

[@moistgooseberry]

Been waiting for this one :)

[@paulhab7267]

Great video Chris and honest view 😊👍

[@dakotaxu4792]

Epic moment @4:19 when Jordan surprises Chris! Love these videos and the reviews are amazing too

[@permol4861]

I used to watch your channel on my phone, but today decided to give it a try on my LGCX and it looks really good, you can see much more detail on a larger screen !

[@billx4266]

Nice story bro

[@dsoprano13]

Can't wait for that comparison video!

[@mirrorlessny]

very informative review thank you 🙏 what a camera, it's good to see internal RAW video becoming a thing

[@lsaideOK]

The Z9 supposedly tracks all the individual type subjects well in the general setting. Will flip from bird to car with no problem. One doesn't have to choose the bird setting then quickly change that to the car setting. For example.

[@shaungibbs7400]

I'm sure that will be tested.

[@NoTicket]

Hey guys, given the feedback about the CFExpress card being scorching hot, I would be interested to know what card was used. Delkin Power and Black cards run much cooler than the competition, so it’d be cool to see how that changes the slow motion time.

[@JaredRibic]

I was not aware of any CFx cards running cooler than any others. Is there a great difference in price? Is it different technology or speed?

[@mandofan2616]

Can't wait to buy this in 10 years time, second hand, when I don't need a mortgage to buy it.

[@116Paul]

Great video. I'm planning to buy the r3, but I have one question. In full electronic shutter mode, can you use high speed sync flash?

[@GOAP68]

2:14 "...12,800 It is a very high value..." I'm always thrilled when I'm at a rare venue where I can use 12,800. Normally have to use 25,6k or even 32k for my action photography, going up or down 2/3 a stop depending on subject color. Course if I can use 12,8k with a f2.8, I normally switch to the 200-400 f4 and am again in the 25,6k to 32k range. Looking forward getting a R3 to see how it handles those conditions.

[@CZOV]

My guess is you will be better off with R6 than R3/R5.

[@GOAP68]

@@CZOV Why do you think the R6 will be advantageous over the R3 for pro indoor sports photography? Some of my professional cohorts prefer the R6 to the 1DX M3 but I didn't work for me. They, like me, all have pre orders in for the R3.

[@PBlaik]

Great video, the specs aside glass keeps people loyal to a brand... To move from one brand to another requires 'significant" benefits, at least for me. I'm happy with my R3 so far.

[@hrtlsbstrd]

I wonder if the lower dynamic range with electronic shutters comes from a higher noise floor cutting into the shadows - since you can't do dark frame subtraction or the like

[@photographer___daniel]

Which sports photography camera would you recommend? r3, r5, r6, 1DXii, z9, a1 I'm with a Canon camera, so it's also important that the camera works well with an adapter for EF lenses

[@erichramone7812]

I like that he said at the end: “otherswise your getting more resolution and better features with the ZED 9 and A1”… Nikon!

[@TW-iu9zy]

… or Sony! 😄

[@zlatyklas]

But not AF :)

[@erichramone7812]

@@zlatyklas that’s the thing the Nikon Z9 AF is now on par and in “some ways” better due to only having to put the camera into 1 auto focus mode and instantly having it detect face, eyes, animals eyes including birds, planes, trains, motorcycles, automobiles etc… plus the sensor scan rate is the fastest in the industry as this of course helps the AF speed. But the Canon “eye control” I’ll admit is bad ass and Canon has had great mirrorless AF for a while now.

[@halvorevensen1840]

@@erichramone7812 agree.

[@hioe04]

Gotta say Nikon looking nice at 5500 usd right now

[@Tmk969]

First time when somebody talks about video, i heard Nikon name :D nice

[@alexwilliamson92]

Can you go into more detail regarding dynamic range? Numbers, specs. Also no mention of ef lenses performance. Most professional sports are ripping on the external zooming Rf 70-200 models so it would be nice to see an ef 70-200 tested on the r3. Happy holidays!

[@dcvlog4684]

Waiting for your review from so long

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

DPReview - this was a serious review. No playing around on this one.

[@aditya_gupta]

That flicker reduction is pretty good. More manufacturers should add it using firmware update if possible.

[@hunktubes]

Yeah, at least add this to R5. But wait 6 months because the R3 has trouble enough to prove itself worthy as it is.

[@patricksmith2553]

Yes agree, and I'd switch to Canon again if the R3 had two CFexpress Type B slots, was $500-$1000 less retail price thanks to the Z9...etc. As a true flagship shooter, I've always had two or three D5/D6 or Canon 1D.....camera's. But, this is clearly not the R1. I don't want an R1 or Z9, I want a 24mp-30mp fast low light beast with great external wifi/FTP accessory like the D4-D6 have and 1Dx series have. As a photojournalist I hate the built in wireless capabilities, they suck compared to the Canon or Nikon WT-6A or Canon WFT-E8A that work 99.9% of the time, mine is 100% reliable since 2016 and works while in a dead zone on assignment, I can transfer images around the world withing 2-5 minutes of taking an image, caption and all.

[@miladpayami5588]

How come the main problem of Rolling Shutter which is one of the main issues for a Sports Photographer is not reviewed !!!!

[@Azeemmerchant]

2021's Best and the Worst video will be Awesome! 🐼🙌🏼❤️

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Coming up! Go Jordan!

[@geoffreybassett6741]

Please do an updated review of the Leica SL2. With the latest firmware improvements it's a far better camera than the one you used during your pre-production testing.

[@shaungibbs7400]

High flash sync speed with studio strobes is no big deal. I only use 1/125 as the strobes actually fire at 1/1000 or higher. Never been an issue. There is also HHS with most flashes/strobes these days. I hardly ever use that even. The HF anit-flicker feature is cool. I could defo use that at events.

[@kevindiossi]

You either need this camera, or you don’t. It’s as simple as that and you nailed it on the head when you said it’s a niche product. It’s unfortunate for Canon the the Z9 ever happened and it’s even more unfortunate that Canon is sticking with their $6000 price point…especially since I bought one. Haha. It’s the camera that fills my needs as a motorsports photographer - it’s almost tailored to what I shoot. But after over a year shooting on the R5, I’m ready to go back down in MP count. I would have preferred a 28-32mp camera, but anyone claiming 45-50mp images as a sports photographer is still manageable probably hasn’t shot an entire season with it and dealt with the computer slow downs and storage woes even in CRAW. However, with the R1 still unannounced, many R3s are certainly going to hit the used market very early when that goes live.

[@JonInLondon]

Pretty sure they'll keep the price-point for as long as they can sell as many as they can make... then adjust it...

[@vlcheish]

@@JonInLondon Agreed. Canon doesn't need to adjust it because lets face it. We are in the middle of a supply issue and lowering the price does not make sense unless demand for the camera is down. Nikon only priced the Z9 that cheap because they are getting crushed by Canon and Sony in sales and they want to make a big splash and get users on their mount. I mean look at the Sony A1....they still are out of stock at many places with a $6500 price point.

[@matthewp7428]

A niche product is the best way to put it. It's just not a camera for everyone. I guess Canon can afford to put something highly specified like this out though.

[@markusschlevogt]

But how much more will the R1 cost?

[@matthewp7428]

@@markusschlevogt how could the R1 not cost $8k then? 🤷‍♂️

[@easer777]

Have skirmished around, and can't seem to find info, not easily anyway, so would like to hear, does the 1Dx3 have the same overheating problems that the R5/R6 has in video-mode....?

[@kimmokyla-laaso4443]

Wondering what Canon has up it's sleeve for R1

[@unstanic]

How does electronic shutter have an impact on Dynamic Range? Are there any references I could read on this?

[@tempusrob]

The R5 shoots 12-bit RAW in Electronic Shutter mode, vs 14-bit in Mechanical. I'm assuming the R3 does the same. Probably to boost readout speed. But you won't likely notice a difference unless you're doing very heavy editing.

[@leanderhoefler7054]

@@tempusrob It’s correct about the R5 but the R3 is the first Canon camera that also shoots 14 bit in ES mode. There‘s a clear difference in noise between 12 bit and 14 bit when you underexpose heavily and lift the exposure for 5 stops. Not sure if you will encounter any difference in a real life scenario.

[@vlcheish]

@@leanderhoefler7054 Probably scenarios where you want this is shooting for the purpose of black and white where you should be exposing for highlights so you don't clip and bring up shadows in post.

[@hankroest6836]

@@tempusrob The question, and it's a good one, was about dynamic range not bit depth.

[@unstanic]

@@hankroest6836 Wouldn't dynamic range get a hit though? Less information is getting stored after all.

[@DynamicLearning4u]

Great job guys! love the video. Oh, btw Jordan could wear his shirt inside out the next time there's a logo on it. :)

[@211teitake]

Can you include tap dance test for fast moving subject?

[@PavelTsvetkovVideoandPhoto]

Good job, guys! I am looking forward to the comparison video between Canon R3, Nikon Z9 and Sony A1.

[@cessnaflyer]

Great job!

[@wildbikerbill6530]

So can we now expect Jordan to wear a Canon T-shirt for his next Panasonic Lumix review? 😅

[@pgulysse1]

Probably a teaser for the camera a lot of people are waiting for.

[@pes4607]

This was a BS move on Jordan, sorry, clearly discredits the review.

[@blaspayri]

certainly not

[@dantecooper4705]

@@pgulysse1 😂

[@JodBronson]

Dang, you camera freaks freaking out like there is no tomorrow! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@angierickard5059]

how does the autofocus and eye detection work when you have a scene with a rider on a horse? does it detect the horses eye or the riders?

[@ALWH1314]

Love to see a R3 Z9 A1 comparison in the future.

[@iconicon3108]

Great review as always. You didn't talk about the EVF. How does it compare with the A1 and Z9. Would you go for Resolution R3 or brightness Z9?

[@mbismbismb]

They are biased... :p

[@Artem-pe3sb]

I'm for brightness

[@markusschlevogt]

I owned the Z6 and Z7 and Lumix S1 and I still find the EVF on the Nikons better than Panasonics. Can't see any difference in Resolution. So for me its brightness too :D

[@thatjordandrake]

We talked about EVF extensively in our preview video, so we didn't go over it again here.

[@blakehfreeman]

@@thatjordandrake I think they were hoping for an update, since between the preview and this video you handled the Z9. People are just itching to know how the Z9, A1 and R3 viewfinders compare in the real world 🤷🏼‍♂️.

[@richarddenise3886]

Good work men.

[@sachindesai1792]

What about taking photos when you are shooting videos - was there any delay or a slide was skipped?

[@sundarAKintelart]

What was the ambient temperature at the time of testing video modes?

[@idontwantacallsign]

Honest review 👌👌

[@MrCloud254]

I wonder if the reason for the level gauge in recording is because it's a "feature" on their cinema cameras? 🤔🤔

[@natashanicole7408]

Great! My night has been made, sometimes staying up pays off

[@AmericanMoviePodcast]

THANK U FINALLY found SOMEONE TESTED 4k120! Thank you

[@dimitrimoonlight]

I'm looking forward to it.

[@dhananjayringe]

Looking forward to it

[@ProEditingLooks]

Great job❤❤❤

[@jonathanorleyi6600]

@7:17 Oh, OM/Olympus 20mm 1.4 review coming... ? Looking forward to it!

[@kaietaro]

I wonder how R3's IBIS performs in video with wide lenses.

[@JackFN_VR64]

Prolly similar to R5.

[@nicehoopers]

So does it overheat at 4k120?? if so how long?

[@AndrewKuttor]

Hey Andrew from a Power of Drew, and I asked the same question to Vanessa Joy and Gordan Laing, and was wondering your thoughts. IBIS wobble. Is it better than the R5? For my videography and KZbin Channel, I shoot on the C70 and the R5, however the R5 has pretty bad IBIS wobble, and been wanting to buy the R3 too, hoping it has better IBIS Wobble. Whats up? What are your thoughts? Inquiring minds want to know.

[@brerwolfe]

I never knew I needed a photo Bob Villa in my life.

[@cactustweeter2890]

I am very much interested in the three-way comparison.

[@narutodayo]

Looking forward to that Z9 A1 R3 shootout video.

[@michaelturner6358]

I’ve had my R3 since it came out. It’s an amazing camera and the best I’ve owned.

[@cdigital9392]

Is the image quality different or better than R6 or 5? How would you compare it in this regard?

[@PortkeysMonitor]

Portkeys BM5WR supports camera control Canon C70. Do you wanna try?

[@stuartmeador8993]

I hope I am not the only photographer who does not care about video, high frame rates or eye focus.... Love my Canon R3... Last Canon was 5DMK 2.....

[@darrelltheriault5793]

Thanks for this review. While it is useful to know how the R3 compares against the similar offerings from Sony and Nikon, I am more interested as to how it compares against Canon alternatives. I like that you used the R6 but how does it compare against the R5. Is it worth the additional cost and what do you get and possibly lose when you go from the R5 as a sports wildlife shooter. The difference in cost is something like $1800 Cdn and a grip for the R5 is about $500. Comparing a gripped R5 to the R3… pros and cons versus $1300 difference would likely serve more people than Sony vs Canon vs Nikon. Once you are in a system, only the foolhardy or ultra rich would switch for a specific camera model. Today’s offerings are just that good. Thanks

[@pal54321]

I wonder did they do an updated review of R3 with the firmware update

[@pgulysse1]

R3 vs A9II vs Z9 vs A1? Will you add the A9II in your next video?

[@JetBen555]

Can't wait for Z9 vs R3 vs A1 video

[@greger589]

Thanks from 🇸🇪❤️

[@zeroken]

Not to mention those A1 and Z9 have dual fast CF slot, but R3 only has one...

[@JgHobley]

Have you done a side-by-side comparison with the Nikon Z9?

[@bird271828]

Well, I can't afford the R3, but I am watching this anyway. Thank you Chris 👏👏👏👏

[@HappyHubris]

So it's an A9-class being sold for the A1's price?

[@pawelecphoto]

Thanks for this review, now if Canon could expedite my R3 pre-orders that'd be great! lol Can't wait to have this alongside my R5 for my updated kit!

[@TheFedoraMedia]

As long as you don't get it before me ☺️

[@pawelecphoto]

@@TheFedoraMedia oh I will lol... I hope!? hah

[@memcrew1]

@@pawelecphoto did you get the R3, and are you happy with it?

[@pawelecphoto]

@@memcrew1 ya my pre-order finally came in on November 2021, and I've put about 40l frames through it already. This was the exact camera I was waiting for to replace my 1Dx.

[@memcrew1]

@@pawelecphoto Beautiful! I just left B&H with the R3 and an RF 24-70.

[@workfasts]

Is r3 really really bad in look light video? I try to search for a review but can't find any sample video on KZbin but a lot of Sony and Canon r5 ... Why?

[@PortBurwell8]

I love the Lumix shirt.....

[@justinliu654]

I hope DP can download the clog3 material of R3 on your website。please。。。It is better to include ISO 800 and ISO 12800

[@halvorevensen1840]

Z9 and A1 all the way baby!

[@FabledFew]

I am glad Nikon did well with the Z9. The performance and the price-point are great advantages over the R3. If R3 was $5000 instead of $6000, it'd make a lot more sense; especially since it's not even the flagship. How much will the R1 cost, then? $7000? How much better does it have to be to beat the A1 and Z9, then?

[@Andrewmusic100]

I honestly see better iso performance on the Canon R3 than the R6 and Panasonic S5. (look at the grays for example) It is a very minimal advantage, but I give it to the R3

[@joelarvidsson]

A thumbs up for Jordan´s upcoming camera shoot out!

[@morimetz]

I'm so confused while watching the high Iso chapter, R3 looks clearly better than R6 and S5....

[@jankarlsson5358]

For me too 🙄.... it's confusing ... because I thought just like you ... Admittedly just looked at my big phone ... but doubtful that I think differently on the computer ... but I will check there too.🤔

[@nigelpaul9867]

Unless the test images have been muddled up during the video post-production, the results from the R3 are clearly better than both the R6 and S5 in these examples. Mr Nichols?

[@marcelrothmund2447]

Same for me! 😏

[@EmyrEvans1]

Same here.

[@wtfkurtis]

Jordan and the Lumix tshirt FTW!!! lol

[@seregapathfinder]

Unbiased Jordan’s review in Panasonic’s t-shirt lol. 👍 for LUMIX T-shirt

[@tomhalbouty3653]

Great review. I've decided to go ahead and order a Canon R6 as I primarily use my current mirrorless ( Canon R) in low light settings and it's OK, but not great). I'm not a pro but have been a hobbyist going back to my Canon F1n days. Based on this review, the R6 is seems pretty close in regard to low light performance and dynamic range and the R6 II (R3 sensor) which is coming doesn't seem worth the wait to me.

[@notalchymy2491]

brother, return that camera, RETURN THAT CAMERA THERES A MARK ii

[@billx4266]

Its NOT the R3 sensor

[@Brianwilkes78]

Is it eye color that’s causing some issues?

[@alhOOO2O]

Can’t wait for the comment section on that comparison video… 🤣

[@danielhenzphotography]

At last, Jordan had an appropriate red canon winter coat on.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

indeed, i prefer the nikon z9 to the canon r3 but the RF lenses... cant be beat. 28-70 f2... what a lens.

[@AlexPizarro]

The only thing is that how well does the 4k 60/6k 60 perform during the summer time. That is the real question for videographers

[@Lifetogo]

Any updates here from some people who tried / used it in hotter environments?

[@QUINPANO]

Nikon is the way to go when it comes to price as it currently stands

[@AR-vf7vg]

No. If You have neither, than You might just as well look at Sony even if only - as YOU say - cost efficiency is determining. Sony has WAY many more lense choice of upper HIGHEST quality AND at lower cost (than less good) and narrower choice on RF.- and Z-mounts. Just a fact. (Of course on Sony E- mount You can also put many more inapropriate or poorly performing lenses than on Canon and Nikon, sure You need to hear that.

[@michaelkettleson7317]

@@AR-vf7vg Of course on the Z mount you can also put many more inappropriate or poorly performing lenses than on than the Sony mount due to adaptors that also include the Sony E mount lenses, sure You need to hear that.

[@AR-vf7vg]

@@michaelkettleson7317 lol 😆 yes lol, I needed that to fuel my much needs for good moods.

[@QUINPANO]

@@AR-vf7vg you can use the adapter to bring in some Nikon DSLR glass which is cheaper but still great quality. Also the memory cards are going to be cheaper on this over the A1 that uses those new type a cards

[@ibrokhimbekmirsaidov9102]

Well, I guess we should wait for R1 :)

[@fgc1981]

Did I spot the new Olympus 20mm 1.4?

[@bbasiaga]

Canon views this as better than a 1DXIII and for less money. They are correct. The A1 is almost 1K more when you add the grip, and it does have a higher feature set than either the R3 or 1DXIII, so it justifies the cost. What's really making this seem out of sorts is the Z9, which was clearly priced in desperation by Nikon. If it really performs up to its spec sheet, it would command an equal price to the Sony, but Nikon needs to draw back market share. I do hope that camera stays at its price point, and drags the R1 price down closer to the A1. Otherwise I think we'll see a $8-10k USD price on it from Canon. R3 seems really good for me. I like the resolution as a good mix of detail and reasonable storage. Most of my shots are sports and I can't imagine dealing with 50mp files, particularly with the current cost of CF Express cards. But I just got an R6 I'm really happy with so I'll wait a bit and see how things shake out. I've been thinking of getting a pro series body, even though I probably don't need one. But I'm in that stage of life where my disposable income will be going away in a few years (kids in college, probably go through a corporate downsizing, etc), and the technology has advanced to the point where any of these near-flagships could be a 'last camera ever'. So I thought I might treat myself.

[@sosomelodies659]

Bigger body but still shuts down from overheating?

[@Ed_Scott]

I come for the in-depth knowledgeable reviews, but I stay for the “Jacket Explanation” chapters lol. Well done.

[@TheCrooksandCastle]

lol in-depth

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

Jordan, the hair is lookin' good! You need to tell us your secret. Transplants? Toupee? VFX? Maybe a side business. Jordan's hair products, lol. Seriously, I shoot mainly video, so comparisons will be welcome.

[@wolverinex4243]

How come the plaids on your shirt don't focus?

[@scb2scb2]

Keep in mind when shooting the sony A1 in crop mode (still close 21MP vs 24MP) the flash sync is 1/250 and 1/500 for electronic and mech shutter. Small detail but helps i guess so ff its 1/400(mech), 1/200(elec) and crop its 1/500(mech) and 1/250(elec).

[@devenlad]

nice vlogging camera

[@zagorcuk1966]

The footage looks real, real good. The colours are amazing. If the AF (stickiness, subject tracking) could be on the same level as the Sony AS3 / FX3 / A1 everyone would jump to Canon. On the other hand, if Sony comes with Conon colours in a firmware ......

[@Seitenwerk]

The AF of the R5 was already better then that of the A1 and R3 even improved on that. Sony is in a hard position at the moment given that the A1 cost nearly double but the R5 was the better product overall. Add to that that Canon has a huge advantage in lens market Sony really fights to somehow keep up. Their 50mm was a good achievement although considered that the competition had something similar for 20-30 years its not that amazing anymore (not wanting to downplay the 50mm, it is an amazing lens!) But for many photographers I dont think there is even much decision making required currently.

[@zagorcuk1966]

@@Seitenwerk What are you talking about? Sony is behind wit lenses in the mirror-less domain??? Why don't you throw the dynamic range in there too to make it more ridiculous. All reviewers / bloggers have the opposite opinion except for the out of the box usability or when photography is more important.

[@Grr8jon]

Sony colors have improved a ton with the a7siii and A1, but most consumers don't care about that really. Both Sony and Canon are great options though right now. ✅

[@Grr8jon]

@@Seitenwerk the Canon R5 is a great camera (especially for the price), but it is in no way in the same league as the Sony A1/Canon R3/Nikon Z9. There are significant benefits for the extra cost.

[@AR-vf7vg]

I love the R3 because it means the R1 @ higher resolution is not far away. ;-)

[@peterebel7899]

Me now shooting the R5 with a battery grip for a year now after many years of 1DX..: Having the R3 in hand feels so much at home! lighter, faster, AF great, .... It clicks all the boxes of interest shooting wildlife, reportage, ... during those ancient 1DX times. Why do you want to sell me more MPX? Oh yes, I will prefer the R5 or R doing landscape stuff.

[@mdbedelsohn4307]

Hi, do you feel mirror less changed, improved your photography? I'm asking cause you have experience with the 1dx. I can get the 1dxIII (almost new) for half the price of the R3...

[@peterebel7899]

@@mdbedelsohn4307 Yes, mirrorless changed and improved my photography! I loved my 1DX, even much more the 1DXII. But holding it in my hands today: It is an out aged dinosaur not fit for more than 50% for my shots today. The 1DXIII is a phenomenal DSLR, but I would not invest in it. It is more or less fit for purpose as long as you shoot in liveview but do not need the screen tilting. But for those genres this camera is the wrong approach (landscape and things). It lacks IBIS, access to the latest and greatest in AF and you will not get access to the great RF lenses. But do not sell all of your EF glass, some is worth holding like the 85 1.4 IS, 35 1.4 II and the 70-200 2.8 IS II or III or the 70-200 4.0 IS II, 16-35 III, 100 Macro IS and big whites.

[@TMM6900]

This should be the new t shirt design!

[@abhishekbhagat5426]

Plz do canon r6 vs sony a7iv

[@waynosfotos]

A lot of people are saying they are going to pass, but according to my supplier, demand is much higher than they expected.

[@carolteater9456]

Why is Chris using Golf Announcer Voice???

[@simonp8088]

This is like a big-booty a9, with eye tracking but with better video capabilities. Seems decent, but very outclassed by the z9 (and a1). Though i have a feeling that the r1 is going to leapfrog the competition, as seems customary in this industry.

[@serhiy1237]

I know Chris and Jordan are criticized for being biased or unprofessional. But they are in fact very hardworking dudes, trying to raise the bar for themselves every time.

[@mdjak3686]

I don’t doubt you’ve seen such criticism. I never have. They are among the best at what they do. Very professional and unbiased imho.

[@g0blinfractal472]

uh... no