Cantilever types: best & most used

[@csxlab]

I have a Technics SL15 with original EPC-P205C MK3 ... and in the more than 30 years .. I rarelly heard better cartridges than this one. The problem is the unobtanium factor, but with aptience once in a while they can be found ... Stylus in pure Boron !!! Tomorrow arrives a new one (an idiot repair man here in Portugal broke the cantiliver and lied about it.. oh my luck, nonetheless, I am always dating a new TT, but this SL15 Liinear tracker, always makes me feel I am listening like the cut was done :) (maybe in the future a new Technics ... the SL1500Ck looks a charm) Thank you for your videos .... been learning a lot.

[@hacmustafaus173]

Thank you for this informative and beneficial video about a subject that even lots of aıdiophiles don't know...

[@anadialog]

Thank YOU!

[@bayardozepeda8029]

Hi my friend! Congrats on the channel! Been followed you for quite some time to catch up on latest tips and gear! Yeah, I upgraded from Nagaoka mp150 (aluminium cantilever) to mp200 (boron cantilever) and the difference in terms of clarity is quite noticeable… keep on doing great videos! Cheers from Costa Rica 🇨🇷

[@KishorNaidoo]

This really helped me in grd8 this yr

[@anadialog]

Glad to read that!

[@hugobloemers4425]

Hi Guido, I loved this comparison. What fun is it without some nerdy stuff in the mix. One thing I would like too add about different materials. Some do allow for different shapes (like an S shaped cantilever). The effect of shapes on stiffness should not be underestimated. as the Romans could tell you when it comes to arches ;) Also tubes Rock, same thing here. Not only is there a weight advantage, a tube is always stiffer than a rod, all else being equal. Finally, if you think about the number of combinations between cantilevers and styluses only, it is no wonder how many different flavors of sound are available just by changing the cartridges.

[@anadialog]

Indeed!

[@TheSoundrookie]

Vinyl related content. One can only love this video. Stay awesome mate.

[@NickP333]

Great video, Guido. Over the years, I must’ve had most types of cantilevers on different cartridges, but one I’ve yet to try is a Soundsmith cart which utilizes a cactus spine as a cantilever. Again, thanks for the excellent video. It was very informative.

[@anadialog]

Thank YOU! As mentioned in the video also Miyajima and others use that solution, cool!

[@enrigimeno]

Muchas gracias por el vídeo !! Fast & clear 👍🏻

[@GlaciaDay]

IKEDA just released its new diamond cantilever cartridge called AKIKO, probably gonna get one later this year. When it comes to MC cartridge with diamond cantilever, there aren’t that many choices to be honest. You got like Audio-Technica, Ortofon, ZYX, DS Audio, Koetsu and Dynavector (a very short one though) and that’s probably it. I’m so excited to see a new one getting introduced. Also Lyra Atlas has one called diamond coated boron, which is quite interesting as well.

[@zach2954]

DS Audio makes MC carts? Thought they are all optical.

[@GlaciaDay]

@@zach2954 they make optical cartridge with diamond cantilever.

[@johngavin1085]

Thanks for the great video. I am waiting for the arrival of a Denon D301MKII to match up with my Denon DP37F turntable. One description of cantilever that I see often in manufacturer's info is "telescopic cantilever". I cannot find any description of what this term means.

[@anadialog]

Thanks! That means that the cantilever is not a single piece but one inside the other like a fishing rod.

[@robertyoung1777]

Good information - thanks! Background music distracting to me.

[@Nick2842]

Hi I’m going to get into vynal , hegel v10- and technics s1500 with $400 grading cartridge. I have magnepan lrs and rogue coronus mk2, please tell me your thoughts on this system thxNick

[@anadialog]

Seems like a very nice setup!

[@tcalixto4v]

Did you read about the carbon fibre used on the ZYX Ultimate series? And cactus used on the Sound Smith?

[@anadialog]

I mentioned both at the end of the video

[@hoobsgroove]

still can't find information on polishing the styli always been assumed to do it back to front parallel with the cantilever but I'm not sure! maybe doing it across ways is a better approach!? and we don't know which way the grain is going either without looking under a microscope.

[@anadialog]

You mean to clean it? Yes, the best way is from front to back. Personally I think that styli are much more tough that what we think and I move my brush in all directions. I did a video on this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5TceY2kiaethpo

[@hoobsgroove]

@@anadialog yes it's a type of cleaning but it polishes it by using a bit of green Emery paper. the company use a diamond powder paste. I'm going to make a clamp from stylus protector to hold the cantilever when polishing.

[@stanleycostello9610]

I didn't know that there were so many different types of cantilevers. The only types that I knew were aluminum and carbon fibre. In searching around the internet, I found that the AT 3600L has a thin carbon fibre coating on a plastic cantilever. Is that true? And one more question. Is there a cantilever which has a carbon fibre coating with an aluminum base? I trust you implicitly. Good video, Guido.

[@anadialog]

Thanks, I do know actually, but there could be

[@stanleycostello9610]

@@anadialog Thanks.

[@Vintaronica]

Pure boron pipe cantilever is in fact very rare now, it's the rarest.

[@박원배-o8l]

Hello, I have a question. I'm considering to buy another cartridge and having a dilemma; I have to choose between an exotic stylus type or an exotic cantilever material, not both due to my budget. Which would you recommend between a line contact stylus with aluminium cantilever, or an elliptical stylus with boron cantilever if everything else is equal?

[@anadialog]

Good question, difficult answer becausethe cartrdigeas a whole, the synergyof the elementsdeliversvery different results. In any case, stylus is paramount and usually a good line contact will give you great resolution in modern records.

[@박원배-o8l]

@@anadialog Thank you. I'll consider your advice seriously!

[@AmaroqStarwind]

I want to record a digital signal directly onto an analog medium (such as a VHS tape or a vinyl record) so that I can maintain usable quality at the lowest possible speed. What format would I need to use if I want to be able to play the digital signal directly on analog equipment without a special decoder? (Thank: ultra low-speed or CLV discs for dictation, or ultra low-speed VHS for a time lapse security camera setup while still having sound.) Yes, I know better technology already exists today for my intended application

[@anadialog]

I answered you in your other comment under the DSD video. The key concept is digital DATA. Vinyl is possible but quite complicated, tape is much easier. As I wrote on the other comment, DAT and VHS are the best, but also cassettes can be used.

[@thehandseesall]

I'm surprised that graphene is not on the list?

[@anadialog]

You say that as if they were common. Can you list one example of cartridge with a graphene cantilever? I believe they are out there but I can't find any. THX

[@thehandseesall]

@@anadialog It's not that I thought that they were common, I just thought the material would've been used for a cantilever for its properties on high-end stylus/cartridges

[@starlightgrecording559]

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[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Ruby is a sapphire.

[@anadialog]

Nope, is similar, as stated, but it has different characteristics. Check the Namiki website I linked in the video description.

[@karellen00]

@@anadialog The base material is actually the same, corundum, in nature it can be found with different mineral impurities that can give it a different color, so before chemistry they have been named differently as it was thought they were different. Kinda like theine and caffeine (teina e caffeina), same exact molecule but found in tea and coffee respectively. It is possible sapphire and ruby may have slightly different proprieties, but the difference has to be really small, probably like different colors of plastic (except white, the generally used white pigment is powdery stuff that makes plastic less resistant). I think mineral impurities should degrade the material, and since they start with pure artificial stuff I don't think they would add so much that they lower the performance just for the visual appearance.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@anadialog Ruby is a sapphire, just different color than other sapphires due to different elements (impurity) in the crystal lattice. This is scientific fact. It may have different characteristics because of how a company treats the Ruby cantilever but unlikely due to ruby itself.

[@anadialog]

@@JohnLee-db9zt indeed! But we are talking of cantilevers and how they are produced. There are subtle differences but, once again, as clearly stated in the video, they're very similar.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@anadialog Actually my original comment was about Ruby and sapphire, nothing more.

[@paulomontero12]

Being in hifi is these guy’s is being an alcoholic, honestly.

[@stanleycostello9610]

As a recovering alcoholic (17 years sober) one can live without alcohol. Being a hi-fi guy there is something within me that says, "Just another tweek and you will achieve the 'perfect sound.'" I know that isn't possible, but we keep trying!

[@MrAustrokiwi]

Ruby ans sapphire are the same stuff... the only difference is the color.

[@anadialog]

I didn't! Watch always all the video! ;-)

[@gotham61]

@ 10.47

[@anadialog]

I see you corrected your comment. I must correct also the other part. Nope, sapphire and ruby are very similar, as stated in the video, but they have different characteristics. Check the Namiki website I linked in the video description.

[@MrAustrokiwi]

@@anadialog Sound smith state there is no difference between Sapphire and Ruby on their page about grace F9 cartridges. Edit: Ruby is more expensive to make due to adding Chromium, most(if not all) Sapphire cantilevers are white because there is no trace metal added)

[@newtronix]

Did you say cat spine!!? Omg!!

[@anadialog]

No!! 🤣🤣🤣 cactus spine! 🌵

[@newtronix]

@@anadialog haha! OK that's slightly less esoteric! Maybe a snake fang would work though?

[@latheofheaven]

Ah... finally... a good use for a cat... 😁

[@deadquietvinyl]

Not a good time to post this… Mike’s RSD live stream is ON 🤣🤣🤣🤣