CAPTURE: The Greatest Mechanic in Fire Emblem That Just Won't Come Back

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Fire Emblem's Capture mechanic is one of my favorites of all-time. Appearing in only two games in the series: Fire Emblem Thracia 776 and Fire Emblem Fates, it has yet to reappear on the Switch console. In today's video, we discuss how capture worked and how it could possibly come back in a next Fire Emblem game.
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@neog8029
@neog8029 6 ай бұрын
The Four Horsemen of Conquest captuables for me: Haitaka, who has close to 50% personal growths in Strenght, Skill, Speed, and Defense iirc, along with the Rally Defense support to boot. Kumagera fir having good mixed bulk and excellent player phase offense. Gazzak, who has some of the craziest bases in the game, and is usually the real unit I'm there to get in Forrest's paralogue. And of course, Rallyman, who has such insane rally support uitility compressed into a single unit that is almost impossible to replicate without extensive planning for a child unit to replicate.
@aghadlarhen9397
@aghadlarhen9397 6 ай бұрын
Kumagera is so good cuz not only does he have great mixed bulk and offenses, but on hard mode, he comes with Countermagic and Certain Blow, meaning you could grab counter and Death Blow along the way and basically be either a one-shot queen or obliterate foes on the EP.
@baltemys6097
@baltemys6097 6 ай бұрын
I did a Captures Only - Lunatic run of Conquest, ill add some more to your list: 1. Life and Death Samurai in Rainbow Sage map 2. Quick Draw Wyvern Riders in Cheve 3. Grizzly Wound, Poison Strike & Mov+1 Master Ninja in Ninja Hell 4. General mini-boss in Ch.17 5. Counter & Life and Death Sniper in Ch.23 I feel like i want to do another run.... playthrough..
@AkameGaKillfan777
@AkameGaKillfan777 6 ай бұрын
Gazak actually has a second smiling portrait with his mouth open that I saw on a level-up where he got +2 HP.
@CarbonMalite
@CarbonMalite 6 ай бұрын
The missed potential was not letting you capture birthright units like Rinkah who are not important to the story (if you're playing Conquest). That would make the game even more insane and deep i feel like.
@marcoasturias8520
@marcoasturias8520 6 ай бұрын
Honorable mention to any Life & Death unit
@katieg1071
@katieg1071 6 ай бұрын
My favorite fact about capturing is that Candace from Fates has a completely unique body type. It's called Candace. Since she is the only fat character that you are able to recruit, they did not bother making any other models for her body type. But presumably not to send an unintended message by having her magically transform into a skinny person, the game prevents her from being reclassed. At all. She can only ever be an Adventurer. And since she's a Birthright boss, she doesn't have any fun skills. So she gets the Outlaw and Adventurer skills and that's it forever unless you use the DLC skill books. (If you forcibly reclass her with a save editor, she keeps her Adventurer model.) So, indirectly and hopefully unintentionally, because she's fat, she's pretty much the worst character in the game. If there's a silver lining, her default outfit is pretty cool.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 4 ай бұрын
I dunno man, it would've been a REALLY funny implication for her to change models to imply she lost weight in prison. Just make you do a double take for a second.
@Handles_be_dumb
@Handles_be_dumb 6 ай бұрын
I've done a capture-only playthrough of Fates, and it was so special. It was like a solo D&D game, crafting my own story.
@neog8029
@neog8029 6 ай бұрын
Same
@GobaGNon
@GobaGNon 6 ай бұрын
God it’s just so much fun to do, especially if you start with a unit logbook capture unit cuz then they can literally be your main character.
@ShadowMage
@ShadowMage 6 ай бұрын
Those are some of my favorite types of playthroughs.
@fen6300
@fen6300 6 ай бұрын
In Lunatic Mode, enemies also have capped weapon rank, so a captured maid will have a S in staves which is pretty good
@mysmallnoman
@mysmallnoman 6 ай бұрын
*useless
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the haitaka being the hard carry for the conquest past as he gives such a good rally skill on top of balance your team with a hoshido class. Also love the fact we could capture a regular lancer unit as I always wanted to play with one or get one as a playable member. It's overall a fun time to go and get the capture bosses and buff them up with all the dlc skills and classes then update them to have a full list of broken captured bosses you can buy for playthroughs
@tylerferguson3193
@tylerferguson3193 6 ай бұрын
Hope you had a good day
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
@@tylerferguson3193 yeah I'm doing some drawings. Hope you have one too
@abd0470
@abd0470 6 ай бұрын
Kaga did actually bring capture back in his second game after he left, Berwick saga, In it you had to inflict a status called cripple on the enemy which renders them unable to attack and reduces their movement greatly, there were different ways to get an enemy to be crippled though it can be a little on the RNG side but the save system makes it very possible, then after being captured you take all their items, gain a lot of exp and lastly they show up in the prison in the town where you can exchange them back to the enemy for money ( the higher the rank of the soldiers the more money you get on release, bandits for example didn't have any one to pay the bail money), even some character and story moments are tied to the mechanic, I highly recommend the game.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 4 ай бұрын
One of the 5 people who has played Berwick Saga spotted (According to sales more like 10,000 if I recall but still)
@n00bplayer72
@n00bplayer72 6 ай бұрын
I think we also have Fate's art direction to thank for making capturing enemies so appealing. So many designs are just so amazing! The first time I saw the generic Soldier with that smug little grin, I knew I needed to capture one and bring him with us to the end!
@RAGNATHEBLOOEDGE
@RAGNATHEBLOOEDGE 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, i like the idea of capture and train others characters, i like the pictures of the blader and berserker XD,
@MythrilZenith
@MythrilZenith 6 ай бұрын
Another *captivating* video that *Captured* my heart. I was *imprisoned* writing the first draft of this script, one might even say *chained* to my desk. *Kidnapped* by Faerghast to provide another dense block of text for him to work his magic on. I'm all out of puns.
@lspuria8440
@lspuria8440 6 ай бұрын
You really came to the RESCUE
@njijnji
@njijnji 6 ай бұрын
Great to see you Pair Up with Faerghast to Support the channel
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
Hoshido: how could you betray us? Haitaka:they were very persuasive(eating some fruit) But in all honesty fe has the same problem as pokemom where they have fantastic systems they throw away next gen. The capture and amiboo system was incredible. Meanwhile awakening had this as well with special units but you could get Marth and tiki as a bonus class and dragon with easy galeforth Fates remake would be great to clean up the translation and give these bosses a cool side quest to get them but I'd be fine with them just being general support as well to be more unique. Personal skills. Hard to say. The two buff bros could get a boost in atk and def if they are next to one another or linked. Haitaka when using rally he gains a stat boost or something special as he's the hype man. Candice a item finder skill and so on. It's honestly why i can't be as mad towards fates as most. Ir just had good gameplay and systems
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 6 ай бұрын
The MyCastle rng stuff is the single stain on Conquest’s gameplay 😭 Thankfully you can just hack infinite resources in if on emulator, or abuse spotpass on the 3DS to bypass the recruitment rng of captured units, but it’s still lame.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say the Fates writing problem is just the translation. It's an incredible game gameplay wise. But even in JP it's kinda written like a Shonen Manga that gets publicized for less than a year.
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 4 ай бұрын
@@1stCallipostle yeah the gameplay is basically a top tier system as while awakening was a big step up it can be easy to break while fates retooling it once you get used to it can be extremely fun. Especially how the amiboo and capturing system works too. Well with any and all route games you basically have to come up with quick stories for each. 3 houses meanwhile is looping many story beats for the first half making it all samey while the second half is pretty generic to one another aside a few maps. Fates did it much better but could have used some proper edits Funny enough nobody talks about the actual good add ons the English version had with having the kings vow to be good for the people and some reasons as to why garon was able to get corrin. The og story somehow two leaders of these massive countries just showed up and same on reverse to taking azura later on
@absoul112
@absoul112 6 ай бұрын
Capture is a mechanic that isn’t my highest priority to return, but I’ll never complain that it’s in a game.
@JustsomeKid93
@JustsomeKid93 6 ай бұрын
I love capture in both fates and Thracia, it’d be sick to see some version of it return at some point
@danny18894
@danny18894 6 ай бұрын
I definitely want Capture to come back in the way Fates (Recruit Enemy Generics and some Bosses ) , but anybody can use it like Jugdral
@aureliodeprimus8018
@aureliodeprimus8018 6 ай бұрын
I had an idea for a unit type specificilly designed to capture enemies. Kidnappers are a promotion for thieves/bandit units and come with the capture command baked in. When initiating capture you can only attack once and instead of reducing HP to 0 you have to reduce HP to 7 or lower without hitting 0. If successful, then a second "attack" will be performed, binding the target. Said target then can be "traded" with, carried around or simply left as an obstacle for other enemy units with enemy AI programmed to unbind their unlucky comrade.
@fufzooz
@fufzooz 6 ай бұрын
Thracia my beloved
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
I love capture. It expands on your cast by giving you some bonus units that basically feel like hidden characters. Fe fates while the localization is one of the worst things to happen (next to the dlc not being released) the amiboo system and the capture system are some of the best inclusions Fe ever did. Same with some of the maps and stages
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
​@@Rabbitlord108yeah and the og capital should make their own translation and just have overseas ship the game. It would probably be cheaper too.
@shadowsableyexd2660
@shadowsableyexd2660 6 ай бұрын
What about the localization is so bad? This is my first time hearing about it
@sollato0293
@sollato0293 6 ай бұрын
@@shadowsableyexd2660I see a lot of that too though not much examples besides Garon being more cartoon vilain in the localization. Then again I also saw some people being mad that Engage’s localization made the platonic S support more explicitely platonic so I tend to avoid that topic ever since.
@PenguinWithInternetAccess
@PenguinWithInternetAccess 6 ай бұрын
​​@@shadowsableyexd2660 I think multiple characters and dialogues were severely changed from the original version to the localized ones, namely Hisame going from being very old fashioned and traditional to simply liking pickles, and also the c support between Saizo and Beruka being completely removed for simple "..." wich while funny is kind of a shame. Edit : well I am looking more into it atm and it seems like there have been multiple heavy rewrites of quite a few supports, seemingly to make them more "goofy" or something but taking out quite a lot of characterization
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
@@sollato0293 nice of you to generalize it. Kinda proves my point but I'll give you some examples if you like. Character changes like the kids being one note jokes like Darwin and hisame. The fortune teller being a zoomer joke before it was cool. And how these people are somehow also lazy to not give us the last dlcs. Course it sounds like you ignore that to get your point across trying to cover for these people as they were both badly written and lazy while trying to "make it understandable for overseas" when that's the issue. Engage is just a badly written story even without localization and it's funny both came after awakening that saved fire emblem and 3 houses Though if you want some positives on what they changed. I know a few like trying to fix how sumeragi got dropped and the leaders being better to their people in revelation as those were localization changes.
@giraffedragon6110
@giraffedragon6110 6 ай бұрын
I loved the capture mechanic in fates and I made excellent use of it in the short time I spent in both routes. (Birthright desperately needed a tanky unit and Conquest had fun boss foes to capture) My only gripe is that the capture abilities took up the personal skill. Meaning that if you wanted to capture units you NEEDED these 2 specific characters, and if you didn’t like them, well tough. Granted… Niles is good enough. He’s always a unit I put effort in as his stats are immediately usable when you get him and he only gets better. Orochi… exists I guess? Once Sakura promotes (which isn’t hard btw) she’s an INFINITELY better Omniyogi than Orochi is, immediately shedding res weak foes with the bloody RAT SPELL.
@elcambiollego
@elcambiollego 6 ай бұрын
I liked that mounted units had to dismount to enter or participate in indoors combat.
@drew_gon1617
@drew_gon1617 6 ай бұрын
9:20 the capable bosses having personal skills is something that I do wish we had, I was thinking about if generic enemies could have personal skills similar to how bonded units in fates did Like, maybe you’re not gonna get Sol on any capture, but hey Str +2 isn’t too bad for physical capture! Maybe they could “hide” the personal skills until after you capture them, like how you could only see their names in the prison in fates, heck maybe you COULD get someone with Sol as a personal, but only after a certain chapter checkpoint and then they’ll start being available! It was funny when you said to not let them out shine the named cast, because I was thinking generics, but then I remembered for something like engage. the generics only lose a personal skill, and really a good few of engages personals are kind of bad so that’s not really a loss 💀 Still Fates’s mechanics or something I really hope to see again, from the capture system, the bond units, heck I wanna see the Einherjar units make a return! Great vid mate! I really enjoyed it 🥳✨
@Furetchen
@Furetchen 6 ай бұрын
Fortunately, several custom campaigns exist with Thracia Capture - two very prominent and well-regarded ones in particular, in Bells of Byelen and A Vestrian Tale - and while I don't intend to shill, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that boss recruitment is a core mechanic in Drums of War (though it doesn't come through Capture, more through a series of Shiro-like choices). If you want to see something come back, chances are, someone else has also wanted that, too, and put it into action.
@shadowofkoa
@shadowofkoa 6 ай бұрын
Though regretably unrelated to your comment, I just wanted to say that I greatly appreciate the Cultist Simulator pic.
@plutoicecream3490
@plutoicecream3490 6 ай бұрын
I'd love for there to be characters that if captured, could have support conversations with others. Not all of them, but at least one or two could be really cool.
@xvi7307
@xvi7307 6 ай бұрын
I love capture in Fates. Playing the game with captured units only is a lot of fun.
@GreatAether58
@GreatAether58 6 ай бұрын
I don't think I ever actually used Capture even once in Fates. When I played Thracia 776 last year the Capture mechanic was absolutely essential, as many have said. I'm glad I did my due diligence on T776 and got input from others before playing it. If I hadn't I definitely wouldn't have made it through the game. Stealing a bunch of Warp and Rewarp staves literally saved my army on more than one occasion. If they do bring back the Capture mechanic in a future game, I'd like to see it somewhere in the middle of the Thracia 776 and Fates versions. Don't make Capture absolutely mandatory to make it through the game. But it shouldn't be totally optional either. A happy medium somewhere in between would be nice to see.
@GIR177
@GIR177 4 ай бұрын
Tsk tsk. Capturing Rallyman is a storied tradition in Conquest.
@bumblebeebee31
@bumblebeebee31 6 ай бұрын
I LOVE hearing you talk about what future games could look like
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 6 ай бұрын
I recently did a video on which I spoke that the return of the capture mechanic is long overdue. The thracia one is good and interesting tying it to storyline elements, but it needs a bit more streamlining in the amount of actions needed to confirm the action. Capture/trade/take/drop is just too many buttons. There could be a more effective system and fates does it pretty well. But maybe the same fates system but with a roll for an item from the individual instead is a better option.
@mudkipmercenary3647
@mudkipmercenary3647 4 ай бұрын
I really liked the idea of the capture mechanic in fates. Being able to capture these unique bosses in the game was great. My only two things I’d want them to improve on with this mechanic is 1) give the special bosses that we can capture some extra character/supports, and 2) let any unit in the army capture the enemy units. Sometimes the capture function being on just Niles and Orochi really sucked because of their hit rates if they’re not used enough beforehand.
@luckylucas8596
@luckylucas8596 6 ай бұрын
What if stealing captured enemy’s weapons only gave you the resale value in gold rather than the weapon itself? That seems like a pretty reasonable compromise between not giving the player access to ridiculously early endgame weapons (like Spears or Tomahawks on early-to-mid game enemies) but still getting a ton of value for capturing.
@MoncacasWonder
@MoncacasWonder 5 ай бұрын
I would really like Rescue to make a return along Capture, if possible. I feel like it contributed to the whole theme of comradery and cooperation that sustains the series.
@MapleRose9
@MapleRose9 6 ай бұрын
In Thracia you can kinda manipulate the AI with this system; because they tend to prioritize capturing to attacking, you can leave a unit unequipped to bait the enemy into capturing them, thus sparing your other units from being attacked that turn, and make their stats worse. It's how I was able to talk to and beat Reinhardt on that map. My friend really loves the capture system in Fates, he did a whole playthrough with captured randos lol
@generellis3
@generellis3 6 ай бұрын
Make different options. Mug let's you steal a defeated units inventory but release the unit. Capture can capture and possibly recruit the unit but dump the inventory. I love both versions but I feel the very small number of useful units to capture in fates combined with the large cast if characters each with unique skills made it a very under utilized mechanic
@djsercy5879
@djsercy5879 6 ай бұрын
Capture/kidnap was interesting in Fates, which is the only game I've played to have the ability. My favorite map for it was that one where you had to kill the people from that rival ninja clan in Hoshido. After you killed the leader, there was this single, unarmed Shrine Maiden who was left over and had to go for you to win the map. You could either kill her while she stood helplessly or you could sic Orochi on her and spam Capture until you beat her, assuming you had the Jail built in your castle.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 4 ай бұрын
Bold to assume I didn't shoot her in advance so she couldn't heal anybody
@SweaterPuppys
@SweaterPuppys 6 ай бұрын
Capture can’t come back because all modern Fire Emblem characters are morally superior and upstanding and could never commit a crime ever.
@silas3839
@silas3839 6 ай бұрын
Kid named Dimitri killer of every last one of them:
@JlBUNROCK
@JlBUNROCK 6 ай бұрын
​@@silas3839dont even mention what he does to women
@SweaterPuppys
@SweaterPuppys 6 ай бұрын
@@silas3839 he said that then dies offscreen in GD and that’s funny
@waddledottz
@waddledottz 6 ай бұрын
​@@JlBUNROCK🥵🥵🥵
@haveagoodday7021
@haveagoodday7021 6 ай бұрын
@@JlBUNROCKHe doesn't just kill, HE MURDERS!
@Alice-FE
@Alice-FE 6 ай бұрын
I think capture needs to be an item. You use it, and it's as if you had used the capture command: You go to the battle preview and choose a weapon. But you have reduced stats. For every hit you do in combat, the item loses 1 durability. You can buy these in armories and such across the game.
@freetoplayking7362
@freetoplayking7362 5 ай бұрын
So like a sword made of rope, it's 2 ranged, is weak, and instead of killing the enemy, it ties them up or just make a secret shop item like sleep edge/stave/ -chloroform- to capture the enemy after sleeping them
@MellyMellouange
@MellyMellouange 5 ай бұрын
Maybe if you make "Capturing" a hit check instead of requiring you to reduce your opponent's HP to 0. Maybe make it so the unit is only captured for a limited amount of turns (let's say your build - enemy build = number of turns the capture will last). when the captured unit shakes you off, they will start fighting back. Essentially it would now be a way to temporarily remove threats. I think it should also be available only to certain weapons (spread across multiple weapon types), so now not only is it a resource, it's also something that only specific enemy units can do to you.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 6 ай бұрын
It was so perfect for Thracia because you really are a ragtag underdog army struggling for survival, and capturing was your primary way of getting weapons, and by extension, money (by selling the items). For it to come back in a way that makes sense, IS would have to shake up the formula they currently seem married to, which is that you’re an official army operating in the open and with the supporter of the populace and nobility. Also a detail that I love is that Thracia has many seemingly-redundant weapons that are just strictly worse versions of other available weapons, because sometimes that stuff is the only crap you can get off enemies at the moment, so you’ll actually use terrible weapons sometimes. In the rest of the series the only real reason to “downgrade” weapons is either to save durability, or be less weighed down.
@mc.type_guy
@mc.type_guy 6 ай бұрын
A game like fates where everyone has capture and the prison is always available at max capacity and there's way less conventionally recruitable characters and enemies are strong and the point is that you're supposed to capture and convince strong dudes to join your cause would go so hard
@robbyw.8616
@robbyw.8616 6 ай бұрын
Hey Faerghast, I know it's a bit random, but today I watched a video series made by a KZbinr named Soma's Corner, that connects the characters of FE three houses with tarot cards. Two episodes are out at the moment. In the video that I want to highlight is a video about Rhea and Edelgard. They are sharing the same card (High priestess) and how Byleth brings out the best out of them. That said both characters have some subtle differences. Worth a watch.
@aureliodeprimus8018
@aureliodeprimus8018 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, TV Tropes also mentions that every crest represents one major Tarot card and how it ties to the character having it in particular.
@TheGamersState
@TheGamersState 6 ай бұрын
You know what else I would love? For some playable characters to only be attainable by capture. For example; Suppose Anthony from Fire Emblem Fates Revelations was actually a character with supports and dialog but the only way to properly recruit him is to capture him. Yes I know Anthony is a character hardly anyone cares about but he was the first character I thought of. Same could be said for Palardo from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
@rugvedkulkarni1593
@rugvedkulkarni1593 6 ай бұрын
Captures definitely my favorite part of FE5
@dry90125
@dry90125 3 ай бұрын
Real ones know Haitaka is a staple unit in chapter 10 conquest. Bro holds the line
@manolito.7zip
@manolito.7zip 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd love for Thracia capture to come back and bring gba rescue with it
@selectioncrescimento
@selectioncrescimento 6 ай бұрын
Doing a captured unit only run on fire emblem fates (all routes) was some of my favorite time with the franchise, not only really hard by default but also shows how each class compares to one another at the base level. Making up stories about each generic unit was also really fun.
@Justic_
@Justic_ 6 ай бұрын
A combination of those two Capture-systems to me sounds like it would be the ideal implementation of it, although maybe not being very fitting for an FE-game. Have everyone be able to Capture, like in Thracia, but if keep them captured until the end of the map, even generic enemies and capturable bosses, they get transfered as prisoners to your base and you can try to recruit them as additional units, or release them for other benefits. Wouldn't be all that different from Alear just going around adopting animals after every battle and putting them on a farm, I feel... and since stationary bases seem to be here to stay, having to have a prison somewhere wouldn't necessarily be a problem either.
@IndigoEuphonium
@IndigoEuphonium 6 ай бұрын
Imagine taking a captured unit hostage in exchange for gold or map clears if the captured character was important enough. Or if the enemy could capture your units and you could do a prisoner exchange
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 6 ай бұрын
Why give them back when I can just keep them and take over anyways(garon definitely) Jokes aside. We already have a multitude of these systems in the game with green units being taken in sacred stones to protect them. The protect the red unit mission in serveras mission in awakening. The game telling you to listen to the unit who was tricked into joining so you free them in shadow dragon and so on.
@hellothisismufin
@hellothisismufin 5 ай бұрын
The thing that always bothered me about Capture in Fates was that we had playable units on the other side of the war because of the multiple playthroughs, but you could never actually capture them. These were full characters with data already in the game, and while, sure, the lords would probably, narratively be impossible to capture... why not retainers? Or even miscellaneous units like Benny and Charlotte? I don't understand why they had an entire mechanic to steal units from the other army but never let you take the actually fleshed out characters that could make that interesting. It's such a huge missed opportunity
@Slenderquil
@Slenderquil 6 ай бұрын
My second playthrough of birthright was captured and bow units only. It was really fun. I recruited a niles from someone else's file just to pull it off
@tatsumitwi348
@tatsumitwi348 6 ай бұрын
What is the funky music track at the end of all these vids???
@tylerferguson3193
@tylerferguson3193 6 ай бұрын
Hope you're having a good day
@kingbeerz7978
@kingbeerz7978 6 ай бұрын
I once did a capture units only run of Birthright, legitimately one of the most fun runs I’ve ever done of the game. I captured a soldier right near the start of the game called Stefan, called him my main lord (unique class, no promotion, MUST BE A LORD!) and pumped him full of every stat booster in the game because soldier growths are AWFUL! But he did manage to take down Garon XD.
@MrSupersmash93
@MrSupersmash93 6 ай бұрын
If they brought back capture, I always imagine in like pirate/navy setting.
@AzumarillConGafasBv
@AzumarillConGafasBv 6 ай бұрын
Capture was the best mechanic in Thracia, it got a weird re work on Fates but I still liked it, it's a shame it haven't come back
@HalEmmerichGabriel
@HalEmmerichGabriel 6 ай бұрын
Capture could have been one of the absolute best mechanics in Fates if the capturable bosses were also their own unique characters with supports and such
@dustinvance243
@dustinvance243 6 ай бұрын
and if it was learnable skill rather than a personal skill for 2 route exclusive units.
@thomasquesada7248
@thomasquesada7248 6 ай бұрын
That would completely be against the point of capturing
@manapeajuice
@manapeajuice 6 ай бұрын
baby wake up new faerghast video
@saliver5909
@saliver5909 6 ай бұрын
I like capture too but I hope it goes beyond just a game mechanic. I want capturing to unlock new story branches and scenarios. Example 1: You capture a national hero of an enemy country who can make real changes for the better. You gain a very strong ally but that country crumbles and you face a stronger evil guy who should be crushed by your new unit if you don't recruit him/her. You kill that evil guy but still their people suffer so much they hate your forces for hundreds of year, making way for a hundred-year war (bad ending) Example 2: Enemy force captures your unit who is the love interest of another unit. The captured unit marries the leader of enemy force but is still loyal to your forces. Later you face a weakened enemy force when it should be impossible for you to defeat because your captured unit sabotages from within. At the end of battle your army wins but the captured unit is found dead. At despair, the lover of that unit dies along with your captured unit. You are able to achieve the impossible ending at the sacrifice of your unit getting captured. Just some quick thoughts. But I highly doubt IS will give us story routes or endings from capturing because it will be too much work for them :P
@nobodyspecial2053
@nobodyspecial2053 6 ай бұрын
One thing I would change about fates capture system would be to make it available to all units somehow, while giving Niles and Orochi improved versions.
@parentalguidance6942
@parentalguidance6942 4 ай бұрын
Oooh imagine if Capture was a combat art in three houses instead. Maybe one of the authority level skills? Edit: Plus you don't need to waste a personal skill for it~
@LightKing1237
@LightKing1237 6 ай бұрын
Also funny to note All of fates is beatable on lunatic mode with just using captured units
@squatch1565
@squatch1565 6 ай бұрын
I really don't like Thracia. It's just not fun, even if you're using save states. However, the Capture mechanic is pretty cool, and I would love to see it return in another game. Or even a remake, as long as it returns but not 1RN, infinite ambush spawns, or the chance for staves to miss.
@Zahri8Alang
@Zahri8Alang 6 ай бұрын
I believe in Team SNAGEM
@enbnuuy
@enbnuuy 6 ай бұрын
if veyle or rafal could capture corrupted in engage....
@perr0263
@perr0263 6 ай бұрын
It's funny that this video came out the day after I started re-playing "Thracia 776"
@TheUnlukyGamer
@TheUnlukyGamer 6 ай бұрын
If we could have support conversations with captured units as well, it would istantly be one of the best mechanics in Fire Emblem History.
@sunkeyavad6528
@sunkeyavad6528 6 ай бұрын
Capture is great, especially if it allows you to get access to otherwise impossible to get skills and such. Fates should have had even more capturable bosses, imo. Enough to build an entire balanced team would have been nice, so you can make things like a boss run.
@rottedhood
@rottedhood 6 ай бұрын
i wanted to make what i call a salvation army run, which is a only captured units run in fates, but then my 2ds died...
@iceneko9170
@iceneko9170 6 ай бұрын
capturing in fates was a personal skill? NO WONDER I NEVER ENCOUNTERED THE MECHANIC
@gameboyn64
@gameboyn64 6 ай бұрын
Fates capture is basically impossible to implement in modern fe. Modern fe games often give generics really balloned stats compared to your own units on higher difficulties. As it was, it was borderline game breaking in fates and even included restrictions where some skills were removed upon capture.
@TriforceWisdom64
@TriforceWisdom64 6 ай бұрын
They could give the enemies a default statline, then apply a separate addition to it for harder difficulties. Or they could give every enemy default personal growths and use those to recalculate their stats. Then after you capture them, their stats change to the new values.
@Hypershell
@Hypershell 6 ай бұрын
Lack of personality kinda made Fates Capture feel like having to work for the anonymous henchmen in Shadow Dragon. I thought it was a big letdown because, given the emotional tension that Fates was trying to create, you would think that capturing characters already sympathetic to you (or that Corrin desperately wants to get out of harm's way) would be a no-brainer. But oh no, they're story relevant, and therefore locked. And that's kind of the biggest problem with Fates's writing; the characters just arbitrarily do what they need to do for the plot to happen. There is a colossal amount of potential in Capture if the game is actually written for it, instead of it being solely a play mechanic.
@TheAwesomeDarkNinja
@TheAwesomeDarkNinja 6 ай бұрын
I always loved using Capture on the boss characters. My prison in Fates was essentially a museum.
@NihilOni
@NihilOni 6 ай бұрын
I’ve wanted the fates capture to return so bad you have no idea like when I played conquest on lunatic it was fun seeing what skills the enemies had they normally shouldn’t but on birthright honestly capture was only good for the bosses as the generic enemies didn’t have any unique skills which was really disappointing :/
@ShadowWolfRising
@ShadowWolfRising 6 ай бұрын
I want Capture to be a mainstay, I want to Big Boss Enemy Soldiers, Generics included. Cease your cowardice FE devs, bring it back.
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 6 ай бұрын
Perhaps it is impossible to bring capture back fully; however, it could be cool if they allowed Capture to come back for a single mission. Imagine our main lord's army is duking it out with the enemy army next to a neutral nation's territory. The enemy army convinces the local peasants that the lord's army is going to take their food and daughters. Enraged the peasants take up their arms. The player has the option of capturing the peasants instead of executing them. Depending on the number of peasants captured, the lord will either condemn, reward, or join the player's army.
@that_dude_over_there
@that_dude_over_there 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it have been cool if instead of triangle adept, Emblem Leif got Capture, that randomly steals one weapon from a foe
@DJFlowers1995
@DJFlowers1995 6 ай бұрын
Different forces should have at least bone person who can Capture instead of leaving it to just one force only
@somethingcleverandwitty567
@somethingcleverandwitty567 2 ай бұрын
Title's wrong. The greatest mechanic they won't bring back is universal shoving
@PriestOfTheHelix
@PriestOfTheHelix 6 ай бұрын
Fates capture was one of the most based game mechanics in the series and I think it should make a return.
@superwario3644
@superwario3644 6 ай бұрын
I actually thought this game mechnic from fates was fun the ability too play as generic units is cool its a shame it never came back if I remember correctly I think kandas was going too be a side character before being downgraded too a paralog boss
@SilentVinyl
@SilentVinyl 6 ай бұрын
Reintroduce capture and make captures work in the base like slaves
@AzureGreatheart
@AzureGreatheart 6 ай бұрын
Not having any units that were fully functional, complete with personal skills and support lines, that were available exclusively through capturing in Fates was a missed opportunity.
@theemeraldboars484
@theemeraldboars484 6 ай бұрын
I'd love for Capture to come back, give these losers supports and unique skills.
@caliburnleaf9323
@caliburnleaf9323 6 ай бұрын
I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that they got capture "right" in Fates, when the entire mechanic is tethered to a single unit on each route. Don't like that unit? Too bad, you need to use *specifically them* if you want to interact with the mechanic. And if that unit happens to die? Well, with them goes the entire capture mechanic, making the jail completely pointless from that point on.
@mysmallnoman
@mysmallnoman 6 ай бұрын
That's a you issue
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 6 ай бұрын
Here's another video idea. I want to hear you talk about bringing back the idea of choosing between two units. I'm thinking for a redux of the Tellius games they should give you a choice between recruiting Makalov or the scrapped unit called Heather (Or whatever Nintendo would call her if she's separate from the Radiant Dawn character) Not saying they should have it effect recruiting another unit like how in Binding Blade recruiting Elphin lead to getting Bartre & Larum leading to recruiting Echidna. But it's still an idea I wouldn't mind hearing you talk about in the future.
@ninjakirby777
@ninjakirby777 6 ай бұрын
Nah exclusive characters are dumb, one always ends up being way better than the other, and it’s a feel bad if your favourite character is just worse than the other option.
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 6 ай бұрын
@@ninjakirby777 I mentioned Makalov because people end up killing him anyway.
@ninjakirby777
@ninjakirby777 6 ай бұрын
@@Rabbitlord108 I don’t like malakov either but it’s just a bad idea in general, shadow dragon I believe already makes you do something like that where you choose someone to “die” to save marth and any time you see talk about it people always talk about it from an optimisation pov and how it’s always optimal to sacrifice gordin because archers suck. And new mystery also does something like that where you pick which characters you want in the prologue chapters but there’s always an optimal choice.
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 6 ай бұрын
@@ninjakirby777 Good point. I also find it sad that the character who was canonically sacrificed to recruit Gordin in the added prologue chapters is the new character. Which has me asking why even make a new character in the first place?
@edgyzackyt-edgelordzackari4889
@edgyzackyt-edgelordzackari4889 6 ай бұрын
That thumbnail tho o3o
@Arkholt2
@Arkholt2 6 ай бұрын
"If Thracia capture came back they would have to bring back rescue" Yes, that's exactly what I'm hoping for
@thomasclevenger2303
@thomasclevenger2303 6 ай бұрын
Dude Capture was one of if not my FAVORITE parts of FE5. Kinda disappointed by Fates 'Capture', but Capture in FE5 almost made up for Stamina. ALMOST
@user-wl5jt7vz2u
@user-wl5jt7vz2u 6 ай бұрын
I'd want to see capture in a game that is actually designed around it... and playable. Because to be blunt, capture was poorly designed in Fates on every level.
@johnathanedwards9054
@johnathanedwards9054 6 ай бұрын
To be honest, I play Fire Emblem like a war crime simulator. So I just don't use the capture mechanic.😊
@LupineTendencies
@LupineTendencies 6 ай бұрын
OH WOW IM HERE FIRST?!
@quickpawmaud
@quickpawmaud 6 ай бұрын
Boo capture boo
@Houndog4America
@Houndog4America 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I liked the capture mechanic in fates. I mean sure was a royal pain to use at first but it was a bit fun as I got used to it. No honestly it would be nice in the next fire Emblem game if they were able to bring back the steel mechanic such as being able to steal weapons or support items.
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