Carbon VS Stainless Steel!!!! WHICH IS BEST???

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@JohnSawtell
@JohnSawtell 5 жыл бұрын
Stainless Steel has chromium added in with the steel which is what makes it resistant to rusting. The chrome forms an oxide layer that acts as a barrier oxygen getting to the iron in the steel. When you abraid the stainless (like rubbing it against a bunch of powdered stone) you end up removing the chrome oxide layer which will allow oxygen to get to the iron and rust until the oxide layer has had time to reform. The higher quality the stainless, the more chromium is in the mix, and the faster the oxide layer can form which protects from rusting (it also makes it less magnetic). Since you can't prevent the abrasion on the tip of a knife you have to treat it like you would a regular steel knife and not leave it sitting in water. I would assume the reason you got uneven corrosion was due to you having more abrasion on the parts of the blade that was doing the most work. As for bending easier I think that must just come down to the quality of the tool. Stainless is actually stronger than steel with everything else being equal, but that doesn't mean a junk stainless is going to outperform a quality spring steel.
@rla1000
@rla1000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that explanation
@runthomas
@runthomas 4 жыл бұрын
what about a kitchen sink... they get scratched and beat up and never rust
@JohnSawtell
@JohnSawtell 4 жыл бұрын
They do when they use a low grade of stainless, but normally the cheaper ones cut costs by using thinner metal, not by using a lower grade metal.
@runthomas
@runthomas 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSawtell the cheaper ones are not proper stainless steel...they are magnetic.....a normal bog standard stainless steel sink is non magnetic.....if your trowel is magnetic...you are gonna have problems.... i used to scrap metal.
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 3 жыл бұрын
@@runthomas There are quite different grades of stainless steel, the higher ones (marine grade) have added molybdenum. No idea if the kitchen sink gets that.
@jaguardrywall7965
@jaguardrywall7965 5 жыл бұрын
Carbon steel has its benefits 1. They are generally cheaper 2. they get really sharp in case you need to cut plastic to mask windows and doors 3. once you break him in they are wonderful to work with they become flexible 4. They are super easy to clean just spray WD-40 on them before you use them and once you are done using them use another knife to scrape off the mud and respray WD-40 on them the mud never really sticks to them
@kylelove927
@kylelove927 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks.
@vaishnavijadhao5400
@vaishnavijadhao5400 2 жыл бұрын
Sabse kam price kya hai knife ki
@AnotherClown01
@AnotherClown01 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea they made both. However I don't do much mud work. just a little but I enjoy your tips and it made my rehabbing my house easier... Thanks
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 5 жыл бұрын
I use SS most often... but I also have learned how to care for the carbon...I dont do a ton of drywall work..but when I do I dont want to fight a rusty tool...just my 2 cents
@anoniemoss3566
@anoniemoss3566 3 жыл бұрын
For an amateur DIY'er, I recommend stainless. No matter what you get, wash it off when your done. If you don't need to use the tools every day, go for stainless. This is especially helpful if you need to use hot mud like 90 or 45 minute easy sand.
@seephor
@seephor 5 жыл бұрын
All stainless is not created equal. They use the lowest grade of stainless for these types of tools which is why they corrode.
@drywallpro7538
@drywallpro7538 5 жыл бұрын
Had problem with my 6" knife (corrosion of the blade). Took it back to my supplier and the rep heppened to be there and replaced it. Problem solved. Haven't had a problem since.
@fordrac1ng81
@fordrac1ng81 5 жыл бұрын
Ex-knifemaker and part time metalurgist. Stainless has less carbon and more chromium and vanadium (Above 13%) which makes it stainless. Stainless is low carbon which is why they're soft. Carbon is what makes steel harder, but it also makes it prone to rust. If you coat carbon steel with any kind of hydrophobic coating (silicone impregnated cloth, veggie oil, mineral oil, WD-40, etc) after cleaning, it will keep it from rusting. To your point about the cheap stainless corroding unevenly, this is what happens when the grains of metal are larger, so the little pieces that make up the steel at a microscopic level are not uniform and aren't fully mixed. So you may get a little chunk of carbon (there's still carbon in stainless, just less) that isn't mixed into the steel well and can corrode at a different rate.
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 5 жыл бұрын
I do use Stainless one piece up to 6" which don't corrode. On bigger blades it's sometimes hard to find stainless. But when I can I use high quality stainless 309 which doesn't corrode. Wal-Board Tools in my eyes are really great Stainless knife.
@EulisesReyes
@EulisesReyes 5 жыл бұрын
Just always scrape mud off of the carbon steel knives once you’re done for the day and spray with WD40 and they won’t rust
@travislowkicks2462
@travislowkicks2462 4 жыл бұрын
Or you could just pay an extra $5 and get stainless and not have to worry
@huejanus5505
@huejanus5505 3 жыл бұрын
@@travislowkicks2462 Did you watch the video?
@travislowkicks2462
@travislowkicks2462 3 жыл бұрын
@@huejanus5505 Nah I’m just chilling in the comment section of a video I’ve never watched. Mate if you’re a professional and can’t buy good tools I don’t wanna hear it
@huejanus5505
@huejanus5505 3 жыл бұрын
@@travislowkicks2462 Don’t assume. I have both but prefer the carbon steel versions, and so do many. You sound like an opinionated arse who knows better than everyone else, a “My opinion is right and everyone else is wrong” type of guy.
@Ktsusna37
@Ktsusna37 3 жыл бұрын
I also use carbon steel and I scrub them and spay w oil after every use. Doesn’t really take much time at all. My work is high quality and I’ve never had complaints. I think the pride you take in the actual work is what matters. Not the type of steel that’s on your knife.
@Sirmaximus62
@Sirmaximus62 5 жыл бұрын
I clean my blades with a little WD40 after initial cleaning. Never rusted. Never had an issue. Like the carbon steel more due to flexibility. Thank you for your channel. Have learned a few tips
@convictguard155
@convictguard155 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@quinnycoleman7214
@quinnycoleman7214 3 жыл бұрын
I am a taper and an avid expensive pocket knife collector, I have a very very basic understanding of blade steels and I use carbon wherever possible for taping tools for two reasons, cheap carbon stays sharper longer and is easier to sharpen. And carbon is more flexible and stainless is more brittle and hard, you need flexibility for a good knife, that said stainless trowels are alright because carbon has been mostly fazed out here in canada, but I miss paying 50 for a good trowel, now i pay 70 80 for nela and hate getting it sharp
@andrewcarr2431
@andrewcarr2431 5 жыл бұрын
For the amount of work (Serious DIY'er) I have used either, I tend to buy the one that fits my grip best. Clean after use and CLR/Sand if it gets really bad. I have a Richard black handle for doing prep work - which is scraping down hardened mud, cleaning out gouges, etc which lasted me a long time and was my first purchase. It too corroded due to storage in a mud pan (plastic one) but is fine for taping where the odd tram line or defect doesn't matter. Just purchased a Marshalltown low end branded 10" as my 10" trowel is getting beat up from non-drywall work (concrete, etc), plus I wanted to try a "knife vs trowel" after watching your channel. only real advice I live by is "look after your tools, even a cheaper one" Obviously a plastic 1" knife for some wood putty work is disposable, but I try to keep my steel tools clean as possible.
@randomrazr
@randomrazr 2 жыл бұрын
for a trowel, should u get a rigid one or a flexiable one?
@KevinsDisobedience
@KevinsDisobedience 5 жыл бұрын
Kraft stainless is great. But I don’t like their 12”. I also use Goldblatt, which I like a lot. I hate carbon tools. I don’t know why anyone prefers them, but I do know pros who do prefer them.
@88SC
@88SC 5 жыл бұрын
There’s stainless and there’s corrosion resistant (CRES). They’re impressive materials, but there’s more to them than the alloying ingredients. Without specific heat treating, solution treatment under certain highly controlled conditions, they’re not any kind of stainless steel. That’s why welding them is tricky. I’m not a metallurgist either, but I deal with them now and then, and even almost understand once in a great while.
@ZebulonJakub
@ZebulonJakub 5 жыл бұрын
SS typically But you have dry them before storage Oil when left for a few weeks
@dazzaskillz9278
@dazzaskillz9278 4 жыл бұрын
You oil your stainless steel?
@AO-LetsGo-
@AO-LetsGo- 4 жыл бұрын
Dazza skillz - I think he means carbon. SS lasts as long as cock roaches lol
@Artie6937
@Artie6937 5 жыл бұрын
Hi mate I’m a painter so I prefer the ss for cleaning fillers off frequently during use
@npanos1
@npanos1 5 жыл бұрын
I learn so much every time... Felling less like a loner or a nerd when looking at your clip! :D ..Great job!
@royhowdyshell241
@royhowdyshell241 5 жыл бұрын
I only use Steel as I am a DIY guy that has done a lot of mud work and kind of like it. Great video's good info
@coreydillon2293
@coreydillon2293 5 жыл бұрын
Wall board actually recently came out with a one piece ss 4 and 6 and I won't use any other now lol
@KevinPatton
@KevinPatton 3 жыл бұрын
I've got em. They are niiiiice.
@mostlikelywedoitservices9743
@mostlikelywedoitservices9743 5 жыл бұрын
Quick trick. I have Harbor freight diamond files. It is a set of 3. Dirt cheap. I straighten screwed up blades fast and simple. Some practice required. Lol
@eddiesoto2677
@eddiesoto2677 3 жыл бұрын
On a big jobs prepping. I like a rusted knive* to see my spackle spots/ no tint needed. Painters appreciate
@bernieyancey2087
@bernieyancey2087 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always used Wallboard Knives. Carbon and stainless although I prefer the SS.
@king9968
@king9968 5 жыл бұрын
yep cheap carbon from the box store work fine tried a kraft but the one I ordered was to thick sheetrock is making some nice thin stainless
@Nathaniel_Peterson
@Nathaniel_Peterson 5 жыл бұрын
Odd. I've never had issues with corrosion of my stainless steel knives. Even when I store them soaked, they're always pristine the next time I use them.
@geneduclos4003
@geneduclos4003 5 жыл бұрын
SS the iron ore is removed which will make it a bit more flimsy. I just bought a Kraft 5" SS knife. So far, no problems.
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 5 жыл бұрын
I like the knives and trowels that come with the professional (preferably from Vancouver) who does all the taping, mudding and sanding. They hardly make a mess, the job looks great and my back feels soooooo much better. I find those are the BEST knives and trowels...
@Terrygrant1
@Terrygrant1 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with your comments on kraft s/s knives,great product.
@rockyfosgate
@rockyfosgate 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a plasterer in the UK. Carbon steel trowels for me mostly.
@gregz.4842
@gregz.4842 5 жыл бұрын
I use all carbon steel. When I'm done using them, I don't wash them with water. I scrape all the mud off and put it away. It doesn't rust on me and I give it a quick sand with a sanding sponge when I pull it out to use it again.
@DanEspresso
@DanEspresso 5 жыл бұрын
I usually leave my carbon steel knives in a bucket of water for a few days. They come out almost black but after a good sand they're basically brand new if not better.
@psillypsymun
@psillypsymun 3 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of Level 5 stainless knives. But I found a Hyde carbon knife laying around and it’s far and away my favorite. It is razor thin and damn near razor sharp. One time I was scraping a wall and found a nail. Full force. Not so much as a ding in the edge. I used to hate carbon because of the rust. But I just keep a can of WD40 and a rag around and hit it with that. This knife is probably 20 years old. I don’t think it will ever fail me as long as I keep it from rusting too bad. Also, watch forged on fire if you want to know why carbon is stronger than stainless. There’s a reason swords have been made out of it for thousands of years.
@raptorflyaboya
@raptorflyaboya 5 жыл бұрын
when I was starting off I was using carbon and because I was slow and working on a big wall they would rust before I was ready to clean up. Got tired of it and bought a Wal-Board Tools one piece stainless and it has been spectacular.
@scottlamp3097
@scottlamp3097 5 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty exclusive to stainless. The Marshalltown ones are good. I have a 10” that has a blue handle that I have had for several years that is my favorite. I wish I knew the brand
@Nathaniel_Peterson
@Nathaniel_Peterson 5 жыл бұрын
I have some Marshalltown stainless steel knives too. Never had an issue with corrosion.
@SpencerOilChangeLOL
@SpencerOilChangeLOL 4 жыл бұрын
The drywall doctor made a point about stainless taking sets and bends when dropped unlike carbon which just springs back most of the time.
@dillwiggle2
@dillwiggle2 5 жыл бұрын
I think the longer you leave the knives sitting in water before you wash them the more likely they are to rust Stainless or not. Wash them and wipe them off after your done and pre-soak them for a couple minutes only before you wash them. Most diy use the Richard or Marshalltown brands which are sold at the Home Depots around the city here.
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, the only tools available at a reasonable price were blued steel. But, since I only did the occasional drywall work on rental units, the ritual of cleaning fully and following up with used motor oil as a corrosion preventative wasn't overtly taxing. I still have and use all those original tools some three plus decades later. Today, however, stainless tools are rather inexpensive. Hell, I think the last time I checked at a Big Box store, stainless was the only option. As for the differences in the metal, stainless is more brittle, work hardens faster, and is far more difficult to form that regular carbon steel. But, stainless is corrosion resistant. It's all about trade-offs. Nearly all my kitchen chef's knives are stainless, I have to quick-pass on a ceramic sharpener prior to every use. But, they don't rust. If I was a professional chef using knives for hours a day, cleaning and vegetable oiling them wouldn't be a drain. Carbon steel will hold an edge better and longer than stainless. Once again, it's all about trade-offs.
@ThisOldMan-ya472
@ThisOldMan-ya472 5 жыл бұрын
I browsed through 69 comments and did not see a single reference to tapered thickness of the blade. I use a tapered carbon knife (Richard) because you can control the flex and pressure easier than with a fixed gauge metal, whether it is stainless or carbon. In fact, I don't think I have seen a tapered stainless. ????
@TheAxecutioner
@TheAxecutioner 5 жыл бұрын
Stainless. I'm done with with rusty tools. I have at least 5 rusty old 6" knives laying around in various stages of complete deterioration, I have one 6" SS that's like new & I love it. I bought all size LEVEL 5 stainless off of Amazon last year 3" 4" 5" 6" & 8" No regrets yet.
@TheAxecutioner
@TheAxecutioner 5 жыл бұрын
I have to save up for a new 10" & 12". My old ss 10" is still not bad, for that matter my old 8" ss isn't too bad either, like putting on an old pair of shoes.
@edover50
@edover50 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Ben. Will you please do a video on how to board for and apply bullnose, which kind of corner bead etc?
@narlycharley
@narlycharley 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure who manufacture’s Menards (home improvement chain here in the states), but their SS blades are very nice and made in the US.
@danielbalboa4537
@danielbalboa4537 2 жыл бұрын
I like both...carbon steel for coating nails and stainless steel for taping and wiping...the six is one of my favorite tools....Corpus Christi Tx Balboa Drywall
@tighep
@tighep 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps leaving your SS knife in contact with a high carbon steel pan caused the corrosion?
@Leonardo2best
@Leonardo2best 4 жыл бұрын
I always leave my knives together with little water and never get corrosion since a I have a SS pan. Corrosion can never happen unless you mix both carbon steel and Stainless Steel knives in the same pan.
@brendenw3231
@brendenw3231 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah regular steel 6 and below, stainless for my 10" and 12" knives. I use a really old blue steel 8" for wiping and occasional patches etc. All richards
@larsdahl6594
@larsdahl6594 5 жыл бұрын
I use my drywall tools so infrequently that I take the time to rinse them clean and wipe them down with an oil soaked rag after every use. The only tool I have that has remained 100% rust free is a Kraft bucket scoop. All the others (steel ones) have accumulated some degree of rust despite my efforts to take care of them. FYI I'm an amateur. It takes me a day to do what you do in 30 minutes and it doesn't look half as good.
@johnczeiszperger1994
@johnczeiszperger1994 5 жыл бұрын
I use carbon steel knives mostly because that is what I started with. I keep a small sponge soaked with light oil in my bag and dry and wipe a light coat of oil at the end of the day.
@darrenbrowncbg
@darrenbrowncbg 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the tips Ben , i use marshell knifes .
@joebonadies8533
@joebonadies8533 5 жыл бұрын
Had a Corrosion circuit with the metal pan. Might not have happened in a plastic pan.
@TheAxecutioner
@TheAxecutioner 5 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting to learn, thanks.
@454Casull
@454Casull 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, the pan probably was made of a better stainless alloy and the knife acted as a sacrificial anode.
@marieaudreyduchamp8839
@marieaudreyduchamp8839 5 жыл бұрын
You are a real pro Sir !!! Thank you 🙏
@AlexKunstar
@AlexKunstar 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend trying out the stainless steel "ox" brand knives. You'll have to order them online, I guess they are a huge brand in Australia. I got a set the moment I found out ss knives exist because I absolutely hate using rusted knives... No I'm not gonna start wd40-ING everything or meticulously clean every time I need to mudd things. I have used and abused those knives for everything under the sun for 2 years now and they are still brand spanking new looking. And they look really great as an added bonus, nice black and blue color scheme. If I manage to break one I'll be immediately ordering the exact same one as a replacement.
@_vlfred1589
@_vlfred1589 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the wal board 6 inch knife I could leave the thing in a bucket of water for hours & it won’t rust
@robingraham6820
@robingraham6820 5 жыл бұрын
Another very helpful video, keep em coming. I am not a pro, but I am building my own house. I too have a mix of stainless steel and carbon steel. The stainless I like because there is little or no rust and they flex well enough for my needs. The carbon steel I like because they flex even better🤔. I do, however, find a light squirt of WD40 on the carbon steel after cleaning prevents rust. But, I need your advice. How do I prevent the best blade disappearing just when I need it????😕. I dread to think how much time I waste NOT finding the very one I want😤.
@normanmay9339
@normanmay9339 5 жыл бұрын
RIchards does not necessarily use the best grade of stainless. In fact, some of Richards tooling is actually carbon with chrome plating. Austenitic stainless is what you want and the way to determine if a tool is austenitic is a magnet. If it doesn't stick it's high grade stainless. I always buy stainless.
@jeremymckenzie7133
@jeremymckenzie7133 5 жыл бұрын
I have always used carbon until recently. Level 5 make some great ss knives. I only have one trowel and it is ss. Thanks for the videos! Great job.
@Leonardo2best
@Leonardo2best 4 жыл бұрын
Agree I just got an 8 Inch taping knife from Level 5 and I'm in love with it, am going for the 10 and 12 sooner or later.
@zell9058
@zell9058 5 жыл бұрын
Rusty is trusty
@colin343
@colin343 5 жыл бұрын
stainless is painless
@zell9058
@zell9058 5 жыл бұрын
corrado barnesi very nice 👏
@Camper4244
@Camper4244 5 жыл бұрын
Like to round off the corners of my smaller trowels, doesn’t leave marks as much.
@groovygringo3747
@groovygringo3747 4 жыл бұрын
All my taping knives keep rusting even if I dry them off after cleaning it creates lines in my mud like drag marks.
@borys444
@borys444 4 жыл бұрын
Groovy Gringo same, just bought a carbon steel knife and literally it has rust on it the next day even after its fully dried sitting in a climate controlled environment
@daryenmirabal2656
@daryenmirabal2656 4 жыл бұрын
If you heat it a little bit you wont have that problem. Or spray a little wd40 on it your gd
@victorangelbellolopez535
@victorangelbellolopez535 5 жыл бұрын
I use Sheetrock knifes they’re pretty good Those are the best one I’ve tried they last pretty long 👌🏻 And you have the ss or the carbon so u can choose which ones u prefer
@fr8trainUS
@fr8trainUS Жыл бұрын
Once carbon steel gets that patina, it has some tooth. Holds the mud better. Hyde pro stainless. I've had done that I've abused for years and they're still rocking.
@larryarno6353
@larryarno6353 5 жыл бұрын
I use carbon. Its what i learned with and its what i mastered. I keep my tools clean so i dont have many issues
@jimd1256
@jimd1256 2 жыл бұрын
I use carbon steel for all my knives. I have 10 and 12 inch knives over 4+ Years old that are still good. It just comes down to preference
@trainliker100
@trainliker100 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me there could be something done with the handle shape, or put a feature on it like a thin raised ridge on one side, so you could feel it and know which side of the knife you were using.
@megandavin8172
@megandavin8172 2 жыл бұрын
I use a center punch to mark right where my index finger sits on the trowel face. It gives me a direction of which way the knife is curving without looking. The indent from the punch is on the concave side, matching with the blade curve. It feels natural under your finger versus the opposite: the male protrusion of the center punch against your finger on the convex side, cheers!
@daijoubu4529
@daijoubu4529 4 жыл бұрын
Dissimilar stainless alloys and galvanic corrosion, don't leave them in contact with each other in sanding water
@jerseyjim9092
@jerseyjim9092 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a Hyde 10 inch blue steel knife and they sent me a stainless steel model. I immediately noticed the blade had a wave to it. Not a curve, a wave. The wrapping it came in said it was blue steel so I'm thinking they must be trying to get rid of some bad stainless steel knives. Maybe I'll have to order a stainless steel one to get a blue steel. 😀
@conradyo9274
@conradyo9274 5 жыл бұрын
I use blue steel and I use knives because I'm American. I do all of my work in the Chicagoland area all level 5
@CorkeryCoop
@CorkeryCoop 5 жыл бұрын
Just a couple of hours before this video came out I was at Home Hardware to buy a 6 inch knife (based on your recommendation that it’s a very useful knife). They only had carbon steel, no stainless, so I didn’t buy. I like that stainless doesn’t, well, stain. I haven’t experienced the corrosion you mentioned but I usually wipe my knife off on my pants after rinsing it. I’m only a weekend drywaller (getting our house ready to sell, and renovations at the house we’re moving to) so I’m okay with paying a little more and taking a little extra time to clean and dry them. And yes, carbon steel is much harder and better wearing than stainless. My favourite paring knife in our kitchen is carbon steel; looks like crap, but it really holds an edge better than any other knife. Just don’t let it sit in contact with anything acidic.
@dolphinberserk
@dolphinberserk 3 жыл бұрын
I find hot mud (sulphur additive) will flash rust carbon steel knives if I don't clean and dry them immediately after finishing a session. No effect on the stainless knives I have. With the carbon steel knives, when I do get rust, I use 1500 grit emery paper to easily take off the rust and make them silky smooth. However, the problem seems to persist after that. I've considered contamination (in the 'pores' of the carbon steel) but even after many weeks of use (with premix) and cleaning properly, the same problem persists with the carbon steel. Could it be that some carbon steel knives are made to resist rust with a layer (of poly or other varnish) that is taken off by sanding? For reference I'm using mainly Hyde carbon steel knives.
@vincenthucknall6464
@vincenthucknall6464 5 жыл бұрын
Not just the white t? Stepping it up
@ZebulonJakub
@ZebulonJakub 5 жыл бұрын
File the edges on both for a new line No pits
@gndize
@gndize 5 жыл бұрын
Holnmes stainless steel, only one hardware one in floral park NY, I've seen them. Stainless and strong.
@betocarranza6306
@betocarranza6306 2 жыл бұрын
Preference is whatever I have in my hand at that time 😂. I have both carbon steel feels nice.
@markypolo55
@markypolo55 3 жыл бұрын
FYI: I ALWAYS clean and dry my tools at the end of the day/job. And I am no "professional", just a perfectionist.
@WallDoc
@WallDoc 5 жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of stainless steel. Seems to me it takes longer to break them in and get that nice sharp edge. I don't like sanding me knifes down and prefer them to wear down to a sharp edge naturally.
@mariocarbayo8943
@mariocarbayo8943 5 жыл бұрын
Hyde makes good SS knives
@hokimocus
@hokimocus 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried using Johnson wax on your steel knives and trowels? I don't know if the wax layer would effect drywall mud. I use Johnson wax on my table saw top and it works great.
@josephdeluca7678
@josephdeluca7678 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer carbon on all knives and trowels. The stainless steel tends to be too thick and makes for a lot of work spreading the mud.
@ds61821
@ds61821 3 жыл бұрын
What are people's thoughts on Purdy Stainless Steel Joint Knife in terms of the issues Ben raised?
@waynehendry9782
@waynehendry9782 3 жыл бұрын
Naff. Don't like it. Too stiff and can't get carbon steel any more hence I'm here
@danielbickford3458
@danielbickford3458 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious, I've seen plastic knives at my local hard were store, are they any Good?
@danielbickford3458
@danielbickford3458 5 жыл бұрын
@Moon Pie thanks
@fordrac1ng81
@fordrac1ng81 5 жыл бұрын
See his video on plastic knives. I would rather use an old gift card for free than to pay money for plastic. In a pinch you can cut them to size which is the only good use for them unless you do bondo or fiberglass work. They're awesome for bondo work because they flex and you can crack off the bondo each day before you use them.
@shoneycutt7767
@shoneycutt7767 5 жыл бұрын
Carbon is the way to go!
@RokitScientist1987
@RokitScientist1987 5 жыл бұрын
You know, there are many types of SS, some are more resistant to corrosion then others....316L or 316Ti will never corrode in your working conditions, 304 probably will...
@altgenesis
@altgenesis 4 жыл бұрын
Spray it with WD-40 and dry wipe everything off. No rust anymore.
@axiomatic
@axiomatic 5 жыл бұрын
What about magnesium trowels? I love mine.
@russellnaj85
@russellnaj85 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info, I did my own mud and tape using your advice and when I had the texture guys over to do their part they were impressed with the finish. Any advise on how to replace texture on a remodel? Or is new drywall the best option? Thanks !!!
@dirkydoesit
@dirkydoesit 5 жыл бұрын
I love you channel. Thanks for all the great info you have given me and my painting business over the last year or so! I just had a question about using the Elmer glue in mud. Does is clog up any sandpaper or am I using too much glue? Thanks for all the great tips and keep it up!
@srthomp420
@srthomp420 3 жыл бұрын
Are you diluting it 10:1 with water prior to mixing with mud?
@UniversalMonster
@UniversalMonster 5 жыл бұрын
Can you add your patron details somewhere? Link in your description of the next video? You're hard to find :-)
@beauxhargrove7722
@beauxhargrove7722 5 жыл бұрын
It isn't what they put in the stainless steel, it's what they don't put in it. Carbon steel has more carbon, making it a stronger steel, but more susceptible to rusting and pitting.
@jasonclark8963
@jasonclark8963 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Vancouver area too. Where do you shop for your tools and mud?
@mungkeygp5214
@mungkeygp5214 5 жыл бұрын
Curious question about trowel corners. You've mentioned rounding or dulling the sharp corners of your knives, but do you do the same with your trowels? Thanks.
@mobinnaqawe6448
@mobinnaqawe6448 2 жыл бұрын
are there any true stainless steels which wont stain?
@dumbwaller
@dumbwaller 5 жыл бұрын
I only use carbon steel and blue steel knives. I also only use a 6 and a 12. I sharpen my knives before every use and I never wash my pan or wash my knives. LOL
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
Its cause your a skater and you know what feels best. Carbon blades have a nicer feel to them imo
@dumbwaller
@dumbwaller 5 жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter Yep! I'm heading to the Park now. 😁
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
@@dumbwaller Don't forget to SEND IT!!!!
@dumbwaller
@dumbwaller 5 жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter Ended up being one of those "can't get out of warmups" sessions.
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 5 жыл бұрын
@@dumbwaller :( after work sessions are just like that sometimes. I dont see them as wasted time though. It's like an investment. It still helps you stay sharp and conditioned until the next good session even if it's not super satisfying.
@MrTooTechnical
@MrTooTechnical 5 жыл бұрын
stainless, nothing else. marshalltown
@phymadori545
@phymadori545 3 жыл бұрын
Thx
@stanimirsabchev4778
@stanimirsabchev4778 4 жыл бұрын
Nela vs marshalltown? Help me please!
@dsdm407
@dsdm407 5 жыл бұрын
I bought an aluminum hawk by Marshalltown. I have no chances?😁
@fordrac1ng81
@fordrac1ng81 5 жыл бұрын
the lowes hawks aren't 100% terrible but marshalltown is pretty mediocre. If you're a DIY that will use it once a year or less, they're decent value.
@joehuds0n
@joehuds0n 5 жыл бұрын
Love the channel, I'm learning a lot from it. If I'm just buying one trowel for repairing drywall, would you recommend a superflex finishing trowel, or a thicker, heavy duty one? I'd guess a bit of flex is helpful, but I've heard different things. Thanks
@richardpellis
@richardpellis 5 жыл бұрын
I have a thin SS 6 in knife. The problem is the flex if you are trying to make sure a large area is flat. For example the end of a wall. As you spread mud, the center of the blade curves in toward the center causing a dip. After dragging out an old 6 in rusty CS knife I decided to put my 6 in SS knife away. Oh, I'm a DIY not a pro if that matters.
@johnkay8778
@johnkay8778 4 жыл бұрын
can you please tell me if both 12 inch trowels you recomend have their corners slighty turned up/ thanks Ben.Keep grinding
@stoverhomeservicesllc1063
@stoverhomeservicesllc1063 5 жыл бұрын
Carbon for me.
@niclach8913
@niclach8913 5 жыл бұрын
Bro.... you look like that grant dude from the flash😂🤣😂
@ionlyhad1
@ionlyhad1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks now I can't unsee this
@trenton910
@trenton910 4 жыл бұрын
Cooking spray👍
@audreyyoung5154
@audreyyoung5154 4 жыл бұрын
Me I use what ever my dad had lol I don’t know what they are because I can’t ask him anymore 😔
@Tkm112093evadell
@Tkm112093evadell 3 жыл бұрын
Walboard makes the best SS knives
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