Cardfight!! Vanguard: Messiah Deck Profile (feat. YellowCard Vanguard)

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DifferentFight

6 жыл бұрын

As I begin to play Link Joker myself with the combo-heavy Messiah deck, I need the almighty tutor from YellowCard Vanguard, Zystral, to walk me through the combos as well! We dissect the Messiah deck and the combo potential that it has, as well as give an alternative 2nd build that was prominently seen in Korea!
Check out YellowCard Vanguard:
kzbin.info/door/UQPJIr8XL-ykNeelUxPfsAfeatured
As well as their Messiah combo video:
kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3ynqYOdqJh6bsk
Original 'Korean Dog' build:
Z_XN2/status/962624867462873088
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@dio780
@dio780 2 жыл бұрын
i love vanguard so much
@sunlaa7221
@sunlaa7221 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! I'm making a messiah deck right now! Thanks for giving me a good base to start off with.
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules 6 жыл бұрын
bet this deck profile cost you $44
@StiGMaTicKNiGHt
@StiGMaTicKNiGHt 6 жыл бұрын
Very good deck build. Both are solid. I’m trying a hybrid out of both style. Mad respect for SPs
@diamondtrainer8184
@diamondtrainer8184 6 жыл бұрын
Who needs sleep when theirs a DF deck profile video to watch
@doorbladder5735
@doorbladder5735 6 жыл бұрын
*must. Not. Fall. Asleep.*
@kaisuzugamori4173
@kaisuzugamori4173 6 жыл бұрын
I should be asleep for my test tomorrow, but I get to see a Different Fight video as soon as it is released. I am watching this.
@rosalyngoode3459
@rosalyngoode3459 5 жыл бұрын
Great video keep it up
@noirhelios
@noirhelios 6 жыл бұрын
Another benefit I thought of for Prayer Child of Steady Cosmo is in the scenario that you ride Ideal Ego Messiah, it gives you a way to lock Neon Messiah to get Alter Ego Neo Messiah. Also, for the decklist as a whole, nice work; as a Messiah main myself, it feels nice to see someone give my favorite deck some respect lol
@noirhelios
@noirhelios 6 жыл бұрын
Also, for Integral Messiah’s hand reset skill, I usually treat him as a chance to refresh my triggers because of how many triggers are in my hand and how large my hand is on top of that
@johnathonmarquez7676
@johnathonmarquez7676 6 жыл бұрын
As a die hard Messiah player (Alter Ego's been my avatar since OG Alter Ego), I was impressed with both builds. After watching this I decided to take out my Arrestors and replace them with Awaking, and it actually made a difference. Also I disagree with not riding Ideal Ego. Now I only ride Ideal Ego if my opponents strides first bc it's first effect can activate on ride, so i can call a locked unit to the field, draw 1 and add 5k to VG. I can't tell you how many times I did that and managed to draw a card I needed for that turn or during my opponents turn. Now if I'm striding first then yeah, Neo Messiah all the way
@Coderedpirate
@Coderedpirate 6 жыл бұрын
well integral is really good because if you ride him late game or as a final stride, they'll have 5 cards in hand against your field that could be multi attacking or have a metalia with big numbers. You'll often be able to get a better finishing turn off integral since you can get at least 10 cards because triple drive and alter ego neo draw 2, while your opponent is struggling defending everything. It also helps with anti deck out because you can have like 14 cards in hand to reshuffle in deck
@arke12917
@arke12917 6 жыл бұрын
As a messiah lover this video is incredible. #messiahmasterrace
@christophermatthew7635
@christophermatthew7635 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best birthday present ever!!
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday!! Hope you have a great one :')
@christophermatthew7635
@christophermatthew7635 6 жыл бұрын
Actually i'm in the hospital right now, but a surgery isn't stoping me from watching your vid.
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Oh god :( Hope it all goes well!
@christophermatthew7635
@christophermatthew7635 5 жыл бұрын
@@DifferentFight Heyaaa it's my birthday again, This year has been amazing for vanguard and I'm also surprise to fine you as the commentator for worlds. Hope your channel grows more and more. Kuddos 😊 P.S i got sick like last year on the same day, tough luck
@Thel63
@Thel63 6 жыл бұрын
SO MUCH MESSIAH!
@brandedwolfen5498
@brandedwolfen5498 6 жыл бұрын
Deletor profile inbound? Thanks for these videos by the way. I always end up watching each profile several times.
@garysmith5744
@garysmith5744 6 жыл бұрын
just got top8 at my arg with a similar list :) only rough match up was dominate
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 6 жыл бұрын
Yoss
@doorbladder5735
@doorbladder5735 6 жыл бұрын
The money matchup, the wallet warrior, none other than...Messiahs. Yosh, lets do this!
@cliftonlittlepage1316
@cliftonlittlepage1316 6 жыл бұрын
Wooo! This is great!! Would you be able to do a chaos profile!?!?!?!
@AkumaZombie125
@AkumaZombie125 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with most points made, however I disagree with the 3rd Integral, as I don't think the situation has or will ever come up that you actually need a third. The redraw skill is not optional and whereas its use can devastate high hand grind decks, you would only ever need to use it once against them, as you are also putting yourself in a risky position. Regardless of the gb2 and the drive checks added onto the 5 cards you get, you are still potentially not going to get back anything useful, either in the immediate where you are fishing for some extra offence but you draw triggers or in the latter when because of drawing a hand full of triggers on the reshuffle, your trigger pressure is much more limited. Also at that point in those matchups if you aren't winning on the integral reshuffle at third stride you're probably not winning that game at all. That is why I prefer one copy of Amnesty in the g-zone as it does check a very specific but important scenario with a much higher degree of success overall. This is when you know your opponent is out of PGs, whether they lose them early game or had to use a good number blocking your previous turns, the situation does come up, and when that happens Amnesty can close the game out much more decisively because of the crit pressure. Obviously what I describe is also specific and situational, but that is the beauty of the modern Messiah G-zone, it is a massive toolbox, you should now have a stride for any situation, and if that situation doesn't arise, then the card becomes flip fodder for integral or harmonics. Also the difference between the two builds pose an interesting theory, we're also beginning to test. On paper, more traditional, messiah combo build is a structurally sound well oiled machine that does what it needs to do and will do it very efficiently. However its potency is brought into question if it is unable to get to the stage in the game where it becomes live, namely surviving the opponent's first stride. Which in very aggressive matches like Victor, Thavas, Brave and of course Nubatama, you will struggle to keep up, making their first stride often deadly. However on the flip side, the Bomber build which in theory should be able to deal with these aggro decks more reliably, would struggle in the grindier situations as you're sacrificing a lot of multi-attack pressure for the sake of early draws, which also results in a much faster deck out. This usually comes around 3rd stride I've calculated, with you unable to go into a 4th because your deck is so low. In conclusion, I would say both builds are great, but which one players will overall prefer depends on their competitive environment. I personally still prefer the more traditional combo build as Messiah's combos and design philosophy have always been the reason I play it over any other Link Joker deck and the reason I play the clan at all. But still if one build shows far more potency and consistency over the other in testing, that is probably what will stick out in the upcoming results for Spring fest and other events, like Birmingham, which in particular I am looking forward to.
@riggso
@riggso 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to say notification squad, but from the looks of things 30mins after upload is too late... xD
@Grojak
@Grojak 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - The PG doesn't need Messiah name, it needs Messiah race. Currently that doesn't matter but it is worth noting for future releases.
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Ah my bad :x
@Grojak
@Grojak 6 жыл бұрын
DifferentFight Its no big deal, just thought I'd point it out just incase it matters in future :)
@KatakButa
@KatakButa 6 жыл бұрын
Could you make a cardfight video using this build ...
@arigato9127
@arigato9127 6 жыл бұрын
Good deck build and this really helps explain for many combos and all but would your recommend playing arrester messiah?
@YellowCardTCG
@YellowCardTCG 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly wouldn't anymore. He doesn't cost any counterblast or soulblast, which is nice, and he makes 11k on his own as a self locker, which is nice, but the fact that he doesn't relock himself after being unlocked really restricts your ability to make columns without Neo Harmonics. His field control doesn't offer much because you have Basaltis or Trans-else if you need to shut down everything, and he offers no other benefits after he lock himself. You now have Steady State (PG) to guarantee self-locks for whatever you need to set up anyway. Believe me, seeing my 4 SPs rot in my binder isn't great either :'( ~ Zystral
@arigato9127
@arigato9127 6 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks i don't think i'l play it anymore neither
@sagarjogdand9104
@sagarjogdand9104 5 жыл бұрын
Explain me how arrested can't relock himself after got unlocked
@zainon4983
@zainon4983 6 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me how messiah deck performance against premium deck?
@Roxasofmalice
@Roxasofmalice 6 жыл бұрын
**saying Messiah causes Demonitzation** **says Messiah like 30 times** **I gave you examples on twitter to avoid this** Well....RIP
@johan78978
@johan78978 6 жыл бұрын
I'm new to messiah so if I attacked with a rear guard lock it then unlock it will it be in rest or stand position?
@sagarjogdand9104
@sagarjogdand9104 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously as stand
@draco_owo
@draco_owo 6 жыл бұрын
Notification Squad can you do a GBT14 Nubatama Dominate deck profile?
@caners.9513
@caners.9513 4 жыл бұрын
Can u post a updated Messiah Premium list?
@Hello-xo6wb
@Hello-xo6wb 6 жыл бұрын
When will you do a Victor deck profile?
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Later this week! Just been a bit busy with uni work so I decided to get this out first orz
@azn_hojang
@azn_hojang 6 жыл бұрын
yo i cant see but wtf were the heals
@kerminism5201
@kerminism5201 6 жыл бұрын
How can you g assist when u already have a g3 in the hand?
@fredlinkin9243
@fredlinkin9243 6 жыл бұрын
Gerard Ebreo think he means if he opens with Ideal Ego he'll shuffle it back in.
@BcDyxaLKgoNdgU
@BcDyxaLKgoNdgU 6 жыл бұрын
Link for korean guys twitter isnt in description btw, I assume you couldnt find it?
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Asked Zystral to send it to me but he hasn't sent it yet :x I'll put it in there once he does
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
It's there now!
@robertknutson7484
@robertknutson7484 6 жыл бұрын
Strong European man locks up unsuspecting victims while also releasing his own family
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Casually removes heart :')
@kevinloon6585
@kevinloon6585 6 жыл бұрын
Blink messiah? More like Bling Messiah.
@doorbladder5735
@doorbladder5735 6 жыл бұрын
don't blink, or you'll miss it
@Ha1cyon00
@Ha1cyon00 6 жыл бұрын
So what happened to the no Messiah in video title
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Somehow not demonetized yet monkaS
@vinztv6632
@vinztv6632 6 жыл бұрын
Notif squad please do ztb deck too
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
I like the new stuff so I might do something on TTS, will see haha
@frost1262
@frost1262 6 жыл бұрын
Guys do you think messiah is meta it seems like on discord whenever people said meta or New meta it’s always overlord chaos victor and messiahs are never mentioned, unless they moved down a tier
@ApocalypticSymphony
@ApocalypticSymphony 6 жыл бұрын
What unit is on the play mat?
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
The heal trigger Carina!
@AokoKalajian
@AokoKalajian 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think integral would drop in price
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Possibly after the new mechanic!
@peterestrada9516
@peterestrada9516 4 жыл бұрын
Pls tell me ur planning on selling one of these
@Tutukwo
@Tutukwo 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a fight of your gallop against zystrals Messiahs?
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
We actually filmed one but I kinda misplayed hard in it so I'm not sure if wasting 2 days to edit it is worth it or not :')
@michaelandrew7440
@michaelandrew7440 6 жыл бұрын
Lol back in 2k17, this guy complained to me about how overpowered Paradigm Shift is in a Messiah deck.
@roloman45
@roloman45 6 жыл бұрын
Where be that gavrail deck
@GIPlaymaker
@GIPlaymaker 6 жыл бұрын
21:30 how can u use lady fencer if u use sebreeze It requires So u can’t use most rearguard skills on sebreeze
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Sebreeze inherits the name :x Only thing Sebreeze turns off is Alter Ego Neo's stride skill since it requires a Messiah G Unit
@GIPlaymaker
@GIPlaymaker 6 жыл бұрын
DifferentFight is the race I don’t think strides inherit races?
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
You're right, sorry! My bad :x
@GIPlaymaker
@GIPlaymaker 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to be a help 😇
@alfredchouong2948
@alfredchouong2948 6 жыл бұрын
why dont you run Arrester Messiah?
@sagarjogdand9104
@sagarjogdand9104 5 жыл бұрын
It's very bad in early game
@kennethtristan1644
@kennethtristan1644 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Dp why is the title is Messiah even though you said that it would be demonatized :/
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
It hasn't been demonetized yet so let's pray LOL
@darielpr1r512
@darielpr1r512 6 жыл бұрын
pale moon plz
@nickmaster3886
@nickmaster3886 6 жыл бұрын
you do know that myga is the greek word for fly hmm...
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't :o
@nickmaster3886
@nickmaster3886 6 жыл бұрын
Bushi Originality at it's finest! lol
@peterestrada9516
@peterestrada9516 4 жыл бұрын
Plssss
@bryanihsan
@bryanihsan 6 жыл бұрын
for the record, Messiah is woman.... how do i know? i forgot what episode but when she talked to ibuki, she really sounds like a "mother"
@bryanihsan
@bryanihsan 6 жыл бұрын
YahooNinja yeah i though Messiah is man as well until that episode. it surprised me
@peterestrada9516
@peterestrada9516 4 жыл бұрын
Pls answerrr
@vinztv6632
@vinztv6632 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did it hahahahha
@vinztv6632
@vinztv6632 6 жыл бұрын
1st
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules 6 жыл бұрын
the mat is a lie, he doesn't run it!
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
He runs 1 :x
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules 6 жыл бұрын
also no 11k g1 beatstick T_T
@windwaker0rules
@windwaker0rules 6 жыл бұрын
damn it... still only 1 XD
@GameConnoisseur69
@GameConnoisseur69 6 жыл бұрын
Wait you can get demonitized for saying Messiah? What kind of fufu shit is that
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't got demonetized yet so let's pray LOL
@henlo9690
@henlo9690 6 жыл бұрын
7/10 could've gotten 10 if you included memes and cringe :(
@DifferentFight
@DifferentFight 6 жыл бұрын
I'll try harder next time :(
@peterestrada9516
@peterestrada9516 4 жыл бұрын
Plsss
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