Carlsen v. Gukesh | Can An Indian Prodigy Defeat The World Chess CHAMPION In Speed Chess? | SCC 2022

[@damned1313]

Magnus looks like a teenager sitting in his dirty bedroom being forced to do his homework

[@chessclips982]

for those who are saying gukesh didn't deserve to play in SCC go and check magnus games against wesley and hikaru in SCC 2016 and 2017 . he just destroys every top players in this format . gaining 7 points against magnus is a great result for a 16 year old !

[@noone-ld7pt]

I think the problem is that Gukesh was invited and didn't have to qualify. While someone like Grischuk, a previous blitz world champion and quite a bit higher on the rating list had to. Which makes it wierd when they keep mentioning how he has little experience online, like why was he given the invite then? Do they not want the strongest field possible? It kinda shows that they mostly invited him because he was in the headlines a lot because of his age and his sensational olympiad performance. Which I guess is a good marketing move but objectively it feels unfair to the 10+ stronger players who didn't get a free spot. And sure Magnus would probably have crushed every single one of them, but that's not the point. The point is why was Gukesh not made to qualify, when there are obviously many stronger candidates for the invite?

[@geekcurry5936]

@@noone-ld7pt gotta make money bro. Grischuk is no hype, but these indian teenagers are hyped up.Just imagine if he had won against magnus. Internet would have broken. This is what they look forward to

[@xyzer586]

Gukesh is so strong

[@arashvesfahani4430]

Alireza defeated him at the age of 16.

[@sigurdh.s8320]

@@arashvesfahani4430Maybe in a single blitz game lol. As has 12 year olds. Irrelevant

[@zoro635]

Magnus got bored of beating Gukesh at the end lol.

[@wk7768]

2:50:29 clip you might be looking for

[@bryguy4446]

Gukesh does not have a lot of experience in major online events, let alone against Magnus. Gukesh excels right now in classical. This match shows how much of a gap there is in blitz and bullet between the two. This was a demolition.

other GM s has experience still losing to magnus, thats not the excuse

[@Incognito-uo8fc]

@ he's just 16, nearly half the age of magnus. I don't get it why people are so judgemental, gukesh doesn't have a lot of exposure to online chess, whereas other players are playing for a long time same as his age

[@niranjanrajesh1058]

Pretty sure gukesh wouldnt fare much better in classical,his peak is 2730,and he could be performing more or less only at a 2700 level,magnus rm is at a 2860 level

[@praveenrawat6574]

Unfortunately magnus is built different. Bro is capable to pull out such result against almost any GM in the world

[@unknown..642]

@@Incognito-uo8fc whaat he's 16 wow never knew that

[@timanderson6005]

Danny Rensch' commentary is very understandable. 'Open files are like commodities. The fewer there are, the more value they have.' Good stuff guys.

[@bryanledfird731]

After watching Magnus v Fabi, I see how talented Gukesh really is

[@hmdchy]

Haha

[@misteratoz]

This comment hits different now

[@MorphysinceC.E]

LMAO JOKE OF THE CENTURY

[@noone-ld7pt]

Haha Magnus winning 23-7 and saying he was playing horribly is such a flex. Especially since he is objectively right, he played way below his level and stil completely obliterated a 2730 level protige!

[@Kodaira023]

He did miss quite a few tactics in the first half

[@defeatist3463]

Gukesh in blitz is nowhere near 2730 tbf

[@palhotex7863]

@@defeatist3463 i think he was just nervous, his time control was really bad

[@gedi1116]

FUCKING SPOILER

[@Don-Cheadle]

@@someoneelse293then watch it before looking at the comments?

[@istg5619]

22-7 that's not even close 💀

23-7

[@niranjanrajesh1058]

Considering it was 16-2 at one point,its quite a bad result for magnus,after magnus won his 16th,the score for the rest of the match was only 7-5 to magnus. I stopped watching when it was 13-2 and didnt expect magnus to lose more than 1 game,so even tho its not close,its still not great for magnus. Also did you expect it to be close? Coz youre deluded af if you did

[@geekcurry5936]

@@niranjanrajesh1058 nah magnus was throwing games in bullet section

[@diskritis2076]

@@niranjanrajesh1058 magnus did not care for bullets tho

[@bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz5431]

🏆

[@mcmillanmcmill5605]

21:59 “Morpheus is fighting Neo”…Commentary>🔥🙌

[@dreamerofthorns]

Naroditsky: adoption Danny: *repressed childhood trauma intensifies*

[@RPS-iw4ci]

3:27:20 best moment

[@sudiptapal9372]

Anyone here after gukesh won the candidates?

[@erikskov8759]

Yes. But it only displays the gap between Magnus and the rest of the field. But Gukesh has a fair chance against Ding.

[@quitethevoyeur]

Are there any parallels for sportsmen or women who are so hard on themselves even when they win? This interview is extraordinary

[@stickyfingerssixtynine7443]

Kobe was kind of always like that. He was addicted to the grind

[@alienoxtourism]

3:27:22 is probably what you are looking for

[@HollowKnight21]

It is! TY

[@fore101]

Thank you both for the entertaining commentary

[@Abrlou]

Magnus making it easy at the end. He got bored beating Gukesh lol

[@misteratoz]

3:00:47 prophetic

[@thecombatengineer7069]

Pawns only a mother could love! 😂

[@pedramab3321]

Did Gukesh qualify or was he invited? He is a beast in classical but I wouldnt invite him to top level speed chess tournament. (if he was invited if qualified that is another story). Anyhow magnus can do this to anyone. Would have been great to see also alireza here. All in all nice tournament 👍🏻

[@BlackPandaz420]

He was invited

[@noone-ld7pt]

I have to agree with this. I think there should be more qualifying spots for the SCC. There are quite a few blitz specialists that could have put up more resistance than Gukesh did today. I Personally think it should be a 50/50 type of deal. 8 spots for invites and 8 for qualifications.

[@lutimstrickshots9253]

you copied the last part from someone else

People in the chat says fischer dominance etc, magnus literally passed fishcer waaay before. fischer was top only for 2-3 years, he had a crazy 1 year thats all. he scared of karpov

[@Sevron32]

3:22:28 what's going on here, does naroditsky have some compulsion disorder or has he been casting for too long, curious.

[@zfeazcesd1047]

I didn't watch the full match yet so I don't have full context, but after clicking your time stamp it appears to me that Naroditsky was mocking Danny's "I don't know" by mimicking him. This might be overanalyzing but that's what I do...From my point of view it looked like Danny suggested an idea, Naroditsky said it was a cool idea and then Danny replied, "I don't know" which prompted Naroditsky's mockery. What I think might have happened was that Naro interpreted Danny's "I don't know" as a "I don't think so" which can easily be conveyed from an "I don't know" with a certain tone. From what I know of Danny, I don't think that's what he meant. I think he was just being goofy and his usual self deprecating self and legitimately meant that he didn't know. Like I said, I didn't watch the whole match so I don't know the context of this clip. I don't know how the commentary and match was going beforehand but that's what it appears to me. If I have any different insights after watching the match I'll edit this.

[@m.douglas5406]

Danny's reaction to Daniel not seeing Lion King at 2:07:40 is hilarious.

[@JCChavz]

Daniel is the m’fn 🤴🏻 of chess. Dude is like the oracle to Magnus’s neo

[@michael43567]

3:34:51 lmao was Magnus trolling? No way he's possibly that mad when he's up 14 points

[@noone-ld7pt]

Nah that's Magnus for ya. He feels like he didn't play at his best so he is genuinly disapointed in himself. Probably felt like he should have adopted Gukesh.

[@niranjanrajesh1058]

Arr you trolling? Do you know magnus even a little? Use something called perspective. He is the greatest player of all time and by far the strongest right now,hes facing a dude who is inexperienced when it comes to online chess,ofc he is pissed at losing.,even if he is up so many points

[@NeaEmrys]

He's frustrated he's playing badly by his standards, it's not that strange.

[@masyan3457]

Yea he's often pissed at himself when he play kinda "bad" by his standard

[@getrightw1tcha]

can someone explain the mufasa reference? I ofc know the movie but why do they use it?

[@alphazero3346]

magnus is such a monster 👹😁🤟

[@fore101]

NO DRAWS!

[@johnnygarcia7297]

3:27:23 Comentators- its mate for white, white is winning! Magnus- hold my banana.😈

[@flatbread42]

2:33:50 I am 9 years younger than Danya, how do I know a Terminator reference before he does? Is it just because my parent are at that age?

[@thehunterwr4666]

????

chat after gukesh made it 1-1 ...

[@inactivechannel5384]

4:31:36 what the 🤣

[@KrattarKrattar]

This match didn’t need to be over 4 hours. I love the format when two players having a battle, but Gukesh - resign somewhere.

[@noone-ld7pt]

I disagree with this. When you are a young prodigy that get's the chance to play the best player alive, you should play every single game you can and learn from it! Think how many holes in his knowledge he discovered during this match. And young superstars can often get a bit complacent and think they are better then they are. Gukesh is at this point basically beating almost everyone around him, but here he got shown how incredibly far he still has to go to get to the top. I think it is a really important experience for him!

[@KrattarKrattar]

@@noone-ld7pt strongly disagree. A resign sends a signal that ”Im only interested in winning over you.” He can rail a million other games from Magnus and learn stuff anyway. A resign gets respect

[@lutimstrickshots9253]

@@noone-ld7pt Agreed. Carl-Magnus Lie is obviously confused or out of his mind.

[@ShaqKumar-c6o]

Could some explain what happened in the end? Did gukesh won or is the match draw ?

[@surzex]

Magnus burried him 🗿

[@MrSirBoastAlot]

Magnus has been playing chess before Gukesh was born

[@ayushmaurya8144]

@@AnandJoshi magnus is not 50 year old he is still 32 quite prime age experience + sharp mind 😂

[@Crystycal5]

Can anyone please tell me dose magnus also stream the same game. If yes where please tell

[@evankang9439]

How do you check the bracket that you made

[@billj4525]

I noticed people were talking about the GOAT in chess in the chat, and a lot of people are claiming Magnus is the GOAT because he's playing better chess and his rating is higher than anyone ever has been before him. That's not a good metric to determine the GOAT in my opinion because the CURRENT world number 1 is always going to be the GOAT then. Chess is an ever evolving game with engines improving, and more theory being found all the time, so the current best player in 20 years is going to be playing better than Magnus now. It all comes down to an opinion because there's no way to determine the GOAT, although I think Garry Kasparov is the GOAT and Magnus does too, but it's all an opinion. Players like Morphy, lasker, and Capablanca just can't be compared in any real way. Most say Fischer, Kasparov, or Magnus, and I usually do too.

[@divinelife2029]

Gukesh got his ass kicked lmao

[@arashvesfahani4430]

Alireza defeated Magnus at the age of 16 in banter blitz match while Gukesh got crushed at the same age.

[@noone-ld7pt]

That is true, he does however in general have a pretty bad score against Magnus compared to the other top 10 players.

[@hanzomain-zg9ot]

And alireza got his ass handed to him in both candidates. Meanwhile gukesh won in his first try beating tough competition. 💀

[@surenbayar8774]

FIDE needs a new title - Super Grandmaster (SGM)

[@michael43567]

100%. Calling Magnus a GM is an understatement

[@truthdetective4534]

FIDE claims that would devalue the GM title.

[@noone-ld7pt]

It seems to be a consensus among the top players that they don't want a SGM title, so I don't really see why we should force one on them. At that level everyone knows how hard 2700 not to mention 2800 level is, so the rating itself is sort of their title at that point. Also super GM sounds a bit too childish to be an actual title imo.

[@niranjanrajesh1058]

@@michael43567 calling magnus a superGM is an understatement as well. Calling magnus 2800 is also an understatement

[@noone-ld7pt]

@@billmartin4093 Yes but that is only for a single player, I think the general argument is that it feels wierd to have the same title for the 1000 or so grandmasters who just scraped above 2500 for their last norm and the 40 players who consistently stay above 2700 and actually have a realistic chance of beating the best.

[@urhom5004]

Pure destruction

[@giancarlodisalvo1784]

Why invite Gukesh if he’s not an experienced online player? Let Bortnyk have a go at it

[@justinbarnes2720]

Or tang or firouja. But yea ...gukesh wasn't a good choice. Even bortnyk would be fine as you said

[@giancarlodisalvo1784]

@@justinbarnes2720 I assume they asked Firouzja. Cannot imagine him not being one of their first picks. Maybe they were trying to please their indian audience

[@chessclips982]

@@giancarlodisalvo1784 last time firouzja lost to fedoseev in the first round . hikaru adopted fedoseev in the next round . i dont think firouzja could do better than gukesh against magnus !

[@varunsingla4718]

@@giancarlodisalvo1784 Well its just that Magnus is that strong. Just look at his results in previous SCC barring that defeat to MVL he has literally destroyed everyone. He had even defeated hikaru in 2016, 2017 and so with such a lopsided score. He literally defeated dubov 6.5-1.5, saleh 7-0, sevian 7-1 in recent dodgy invitational. Its just magnus doing magnus things. There's literally 2-3 players in the world who stand a fighting chance against him in this format.

[@giancarlodisalvo1784]

@@chessclips982 alireza is stronger than gukesh.

[@Aziz0938]

Magnus is like some different species

[@ohvalez7693]

mute it to enjoy it more instead of hearing cringe jokes ....i dont know how nardoitsky put up with that for 3 hours straight

[@smiley_1000]

4:18:15

[@takkutiwari1]

Can you add captions please??

[@Bobo-Vieri]

It was a massacre, poor Gukesh.

[@Art_Of_Stew]

No way this dude is 16

[@ajmalghan]

Gukesh is not so good blitz or bullet player. He concentrate on classical.That slot should be given to others.

[@thetimssportstalk3160]

3:27:25 How did magnus play that so fast? Holy shitlol

[@Arvga8662]

3:27:26 hahahahahaa

[@dretterath]

Did no one see Magnus yeet something after his 3rd loss?

[@lutimstrickshots9253]

timestamp?

[@dretterath]

@@lutimstrickshots9253 3:34:50

[@gionabaldo6162]

Mufasa mufascinating!

[@КаналЧиллиПепФакты]

Simply destroyed

[@SaifulIslam-yy8rs]

Speed chess really bad for health

[@johnballard6725]

Too much talk from the commentators.

[@oriondx72]

hikaru would prob won least 30

[@AcuLuckIsReal]

Cheese.

[@magicman1086]

How is everybody saying Gukesh is only 16? That's a grown ass man with a mortgage and 2 kids.

[@chakaula8642]

So basically... Magnus gets a "walkover" BTW, can Danny-adhd be any more irritating?

[@noone-ld7pt]

Benefit of being 2nd seed is playing 2nd to last seed. I mean Hikaru's got it even easier.

[@marioonofre3174]

I really liked to watch this match until I saw that Daniel was broadcasting... so annoying, can he behave like an adult at least?

[@codenamerishi]

Holy shit danny rensch is unbearably cringy

[@BigBang5010]

Dydh

[@chakaula8642]

DARN... The Danny adhd show... useless to watch! Call me when Robert's back (sorry Danya') gotta' leave.

[@PTJ_S]

Why do they allow Danny to commentate on these, he sooooo annoying. Kind of feels like hes always trying to make up for his IM title with quirky jokes. The Danya and Hess combo is solid please!!!

[@georgev.georgeson5300]

Don't you find it strange commentating on your business partner's game?

[@Teo-uw7mh]

danny rensch is a TERRIBLE commentator. Sad!