CARLSEN VS STOCKFISH! CHEATING Against Magnus Carlsen in Blitz Game

[@chess245]

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[@TropicalPianist]

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[@justaplayer5829]

Magnus used his brain as his engine , its illegal

[@centralprocessingunit2564]

please get magnus yo play against stock11

[@sackwhacker]

By the way, is his account banned?

[@zayjuega]

Carlsen vencio al módulo.

[@genrydo1744]

Other chess players: "That's it! He's cheating!" Magnus: "Finally, a worthy opponent"

[@spectralanalysis]

Hikaru would be throwing his mouse XDD

[@herrberg8962]

And still, he won

[@no6649]

@@herrberg8962 on time tho

[@martinmcdade2555]

@@no6649 dependant on the version of stock fish it’s the only way he would be able to win

[@lol-cn1su]

@@no6649 so?

[@ralfrotstein4457]

Aleksandar after the game: "Too bad! The other guy was using an engine too."

[@ashura_yami]

Plot twist

[@beliy969]

And a better one 👌🤣

[@rayhoodoo847]

Looool

[@carlosjaquez4913]

😂😂😂😂

[@guyfawkes469]

LOL. :)

[@sureetkumar6580]

well.. in stockfish's defence it did not know who it was playing against.

[@yas96225]

Lol. Good one!

[@JBades6310]

great line

[@davidsalanguera7325]

@sahil verma don't you understand a joke?

[@upgrader99]

NO RESPECT!

[@itchykami]

didn't know it was timed either!

[@yoursamlan]

3 signs of cheating: 1. Slow moves in the opening 2. Almost equal move times 3. Don't rush though his time runs out.

[@matteomarku7177]

I take my time in the openings lol

[@MrLimon27]

I don’t think slow moves in the opening are that much of a hint.

[@Eliseo_M_P]

Also thinking for obvious moves (such as hanging pieces).

[@revandewaputra4239]

@@Eliseo_M_P some hanging pieces can be a trap though

[@yoursamlan]

@@Eliseo_M_P Yeah.... Like in the game he took nearly 5 sec to capture the queen by the king...

[@rahuldev2389]

stockfish: "why do i hear boss music?"

[@zarrowthehorse]

Dead joke

[@eulermachado3968]

@@zarrowthehorse I laughed and theres 294 likes... guess whos the joke...

[@enki-enlil]

@@eulermachado3968 me

[@Drewski777]

@@eulermachado3968 625 likes now

[@eulermachado3968]

@@Drewski777 the guy commenting "dead joke" does not have sense of humor

[@tylersieben6868]

Magnus: “He’s playing really well I guess” Stockfish: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@ashura_yami]

Wkwkwk nice joke dude

[@PaperGrape]

Lmao

[@happygood18]

Me: Moves a pawn Stockfish: I see that you are doing king's sacrifice.

[@Dante20321]

😂

[@raulmartincaromonaco2446]

Nice one haha

[@BeerdyBruceLeeCentral]

Magnus was cheating too, he was clearly using his brain.

[@laluna6699]

What a shame

[@mahdinejad]

I've heard that most of good players do that. It's disgusting. Why can't they play like the rest of us without using brain?

[@seyhashop615]

@@mahdinejad Lmao

[@aq8287]

@@mahdinejad lol :)))))))) I only use hand and eyes

[@TheFerretofEarth]

@@mahdinejad IKR, why can't they just flip the board over when they lose one-piece or move randomly

[@Riuhkuhku]

Stockfish: Let's take on b3 Carlsen: Then I can go h4 and maybe have some initiative Stockfish: Let's not take on b3

[@ashura_yami]

Also stockfish : - brain.exe stop working

[@nevinkuser9892]

ha😂😂ha

[@freakfreaky7929]

@@mirzamirza7878 It is amazing that Carlsen was playing topnotch in that game. He had no problem against the machine.

[@bluedonkey180]

@@freakfreaky7929 he was definitely going to lose, even against the bad version of stock fish he was playing on a browser tab

[@themichaellukascollective]

I’m curious why he didn’t take the pawn on b3. I couldn’t make the connection .

[@thefellowww]

It was low for this guy to cheat like that but let's be honest, I think we all wanted to see this game.

[@centralprocessingunit2564]

it wasnt long enough though. the computer ran on time. the person behind isnt that good at cheating if I had to be honest. I'd do a better job. but well done to magnus.

[@Backupdancerr]

Magnus Carlsen GOAT well done, you’re good at cheating

[@centralprocessingunit2564]

@@Backupdancerr thank you

[@douglasquaid7550]

I would have called the police to have the cheater arrested for fraud.

[@ngc5195]

@@centralprocessingunit2564 How do you know you're a better cheater? Have you had some practice?

[@kardsufur2966]

"He played ok for his rating." Opponent's rating: 4000 ELO

[@AAa-iw7zd]

That's funny haha

[@nikolaygnatyuk7222]

О_О The opponent looks without blinking

[@DjVortex-w]

Engine elo ratings cannot really be compared with human elo ratings because the two rating systems are independent of each other and there's no common "anchor" to make them equivalent (ie. not enough serious human vs engine games to make a valid comparison). Thus the two elo ratings cannot really be compared directly.

[@muhammadputera6593]

@@DjVortex-w you're right, but kard isn't even doing that. He's pulling the '4000' figure out of his ass. Engine ratings top out at about 3300-3400; the gap between that and 4000 is comparable to the gap between an IM and Magnus Carlsen.

[@DjVortex-w]

@@ReverseGuy So?

[@vincenzo4230]

Stockfish: "Who are you?" Magnus: "I'm you, but faster"

[@MrXennon1]

Not actually but ya

[@AysarAburrub]

Stockfish is actually a lot faster than any human, it's the guy using stockfish who's slow in copying the engine moves lol

[@chaosfighter8588]

@@AysarAburrub sherlock

[@LOLzum101]

@@AysarAburrub REALLY?!

[@aaron4820]

@@LOLzum101 Stockfish is basically a car and Magnus is Usain Bolt at his prime... it's just in this case the guy trying to beat Usain Bolt doesn't know how to switch the gears of his car.

[@eddiegness]

Everyone in the world: Oh no! Stockfish is kicking my ass! Magnus Carlsen: I think I'm a little better here...

[@elliotalderson2396]

More like: Stockfish is kissing my ass.

[@KarthikNayakOfficial]

@@elliotalderson2396 💀💀

[@ajaytiwarie4542]

Magnus be like sorry dude iam not that slow nor that weak

[@muroturco]

Carlsen knew deep down what was going on but still gave the benefit of the doubt and not said anything because that would hurt his reputation.

[@vladimirmendoza2645]

Of course no one really knows but this does seem like it could be the reason why

[@M1guel7Dias]

I guess Carlsen is just well done on life enough to not care and play anyway...

[@silaskonig4306]

@@M1guel7Dias He is also good enough to outplay Stockfish in the opening and lead that to a Draw With white

[@rogerfedererc5315]

@@silaskonig4306 not possible, Magnus is a beast but stockfish will rip him apart. To give you a perspective magnus is around 2900 rated and stockfish is around 3500. But personally I find it ludicrous to compare humans and engines

[@pk-fi1ok]

@@rogerfedererc5315 You are right, but not in these time odds. The guy moving for stockfish was just too slow, lol :)

[@sechpog7426]

3:53 magnus being a minecraft villager

[@Daniel_AL]

Hmmp

[@drany6707]

hahahaha

[@LucasRodrigues-io2mq]

Lmfao

[@celinofj]

lol, I came back just to like your comment :)

[@milionib1ts]

monkaS

[@ameyadeshpande99847]

What a pity! Stockfish got a chance to beat Magnus carlsen but lost on time

[@YoavMilikow]

yeah such a joker just let time out and made no attempt to move at the end LOL

[@frankiegee6135]

Well it requires an actual brain to do that!

[@benextinction__144]

@@YoavMilikow I know haha, i was expecting him to try and play himself when stockfish couldn't check fast enough, but no he still patiently waits for the engine with 10 seconds on the clock. Was quite funny

[@YoavMilikow]

@@benextinction__144 yeah hahahah

[@rohithjacob4699]

Magnus always get beaten up by stockfish when he is practicing at home😅.. Kidding.. But its true..

[@rohithjacob4699]

Magnus : too weak too slow Stockfish :

[@RobbyBoy167]

magnus: "Knight f6 is exactly what you're not supposed to do" Stockfish: "Yo hey dude i'm supposed to be the better player here"

[@ades5305]

Maybe magnus can beat deep blue but not stockfish, leela, etc

[@rohithjacob4699]

@@ades5305 ya of course he can... kasparov did.. so why cant carlsen?...

[@killerdoc1077]

Alpha zero and other engines are rated around 3500 , they make rational moves and have sequences of forced checkmates, one pawn push can be a forced checkmate in 70 moves etc.

[@DespereuxRaizo]

@@killerdoc1077 you are watching chess movies pal,

[@lucaborzani56]

4 seconds to recapture the queen...

[@chess245]

Nice point! :)

[@blackpanther3422]

What if stockfish gives a better move🤣

[@lucaborzani56]

@@blackpanther3422 following the advice: when you find a good move look for a better one :D

[@LeventK]

When you see a mate in one look for better

[@bisum1790]

It's not the point...any one can took this ... Bt we all know he was cheating 😂😂

[@ostenloo1981]

I analyzed the game on lichess and carlsen had 0 inaccuracies, mistakes, and blunders, while Stockfish had 1 inaccuracy lol. edit: the inaccuracy was the last move rd8, which was made in time trouble. all I'm saying is that magnus managed to play a near flawless game against an engine! obviously stockfish > carlsen but it was funny seeing "stockfish" have an inaccuracy. also keep in mind we don't know what version of stockfish (or if it was another engine) his opponent was using, or how fast his computer was.

[@kaueholthausen445]

Do you remember which was the inaccurate move?

[@Norwegian733]

@@kaueholthausen445 The opening :-)

[@jeremykunath954]

they do that so it isn't that easy to detect

[@aesaehttr]

Insane

[@xxjere.c8483]

Magnus is a android

[@kamilw.3138]

This guy got a chance to play against world champion and he destroyed that completely...

[@rohithjacob4699]

Exactly... feeling pity for him.. i hate these cheaters... the few second pleasure they get from using an engine will not be there when they cant ever play in that site anymore..

[@AbdallaAmeri]

@Guilherme Sousa No , it's just like playing against an engine. NO ONE wonders what it is like grandmasters playing against engines. Even Magnus himself said it's pointless playing against engines. because engines reached 5000 elo and there's no point in playing them. Their moves are not even comprehensible. What this man did was disgusting, no pride or honour in that win. What did that man sacrifice? He's just a cheater that will make another account and keep cheating because people like you lov it. I pity him.

[@AbdallaAmeri]

@Guilherme Sousa An opponent as strong as stockfish does not exist. Please do not cheat and play your best.

[@bcool6801]

Beast mode you pity a cheater? Why?

[@ACSMEX]

@Guilherme Sousa Because Stockfish is almost 3500 ELO while Magnus is 2875. That's why it's pointless. 2600-2700 ELO rated players can beat people around 2000-2100 while blindfolded, I hope this gives you an idea of how pointless it is.

[@Aj-ch5kz]

"He played really well for his rating , there's no doubt about that!". 😅 nice sarcasm

[@YoavMilikow]

yep except even with the engine , he still lost (and just let his time out at the end)

[@YoavMilikow]

@Nazmus Saquib maybe...

[@wesselbotha3928]

This guy is a weak cheater

[@Patralgan]

@Nazmus Saquib I'm sure he knew. When someone plays like that and with that steady pace, you can feel it's not human

[@rohmann000]

@@Patralgan There were no or few obvious engine moves in the game so Carlsen didn't know :-)

[@tamirpolyakov1122]

Carlsen planning 20 moves ahead. Me still trying to find d7

[@TheGaming100]

Masters in general can probably do some similar stuff blindfolded

[@vinchinzo594]

It's just above d6 bro. I gotchu no worries. ;) lmao

[@ES-rr6jp]

Carlsen fans: Knew you were cheating! Stockfish fans: 00110000 00010101

[@burrri]

Explain please 😅

[@andrecosta8107]

​@@burrri binary joke. not good anyway

[@elektriksvarsiki]

@@andrecosta8107 i laughed, sooo

[@PeWeHH]

It's 12309 decimal. Does it mean anything?

[@_zelos]

Doesn't make sense, the joke might work if the format were right you 01100100 01110101 01101101 01100010 00100000 01100001 01110000 01100101

[@g.valcic3137]

Stockfish: f5 Carlsen: "You picked the wrong house fool!"

[@espnpokerclub1246]

Computer: F5 Carlsen: " you have chosen death?."

[@saimirbuzi7275]

Dead giveaway: He didn't start making quick moves when his time was running out

[@YoavMilikow]

yeah so silly didn't even make any attempt to move there

[@YoavMilikow]

@64Fabby yeah so silly to think on first few moves there and the dumbest was at the end just to let time out and make no attempt to move

[@Gilvids]

I thought the dead giveaway was the title?

[@nischay4760]

yeah, prolly a 1000 rated player with no actual sense of the position

[@jacobhannah2969]

@@Gilvids I think they mean like before the video was made it was a dead giveaway for the ppl on tha livestream

[@andreadiotallevi5780]

"He played really well for his rating. There is no doubt about that." Very classy response by the world champion.

[@vegetossgss1114]

Can a chess intermediate player learn to perfect his moves in some situations using Stockfish, after a lot of games without it. Or is it pure cheating without any benefit at all?

[@dob2664]

@@vegetossgss1114 stockfish thinks deeper than any human could understand; it often plays moves that are inconceivable to human beings and look entirely useless. It will not help you learn in the sense of improving your chess understanding, but if you want to learn the best move in specific positions/learn lines, stockfish is a great tool

[@vibovitold]

@@dob2664well, it may help you, because it's useful as a "spellchecker", for example. if you think that some move works (eg. a sacrifice, an attack etc.), Stockfish can show you why it doesn't, basically finding the best defence, which you have overlooked in your calculations.

[@whatup1244]

​@@dob2664lol that makes Magnus beyond human

[@FlashRayLaser]

​​@@dob2664I don't think we can learn to also formulate the seemingly inexplicable moves, but I think we can put forth a likely explanation for many of them. I suspect that when Stockfish sees the future possibility of certain board states it wants to win from, it can manipulate the board into reaching that state in a very artificial way even if there's a more natural route to it, including going ahead and losing certain pieces that will be in the way of attacks later. Even when it's "losing" it's part of the plan and simply a faster route to victory than playing more like a human, who generally never really wants to lose pieces unless it's a trade. No one just randomly throws a bishop into danger with no trade because they suspect it's going to be in the way of something in 15 moves.

[@redisthewaytogo4373]

Stockfish: Haven't felt this bad getting destroyed since alphazero...

[@adeshkantha7034]

Stock fish can destroy alphazero

[@mattiaserio9067]

@@adeshkantha7034 yeah, 6 times out a thousand xD... Alphazero owns Stockfish.

[@adeshkantha7034]

@@mattiaserio9067 your info is outdated man. Stockfish 12 is much much stronger than alpha zero.

[@adeshkantha7034]

@MorTobXD stockfish beat the neural network engine leelazero in the TCEC

[@adeshkantha7034]

@MorTobXD you can see on Wikipedia. The latest winner is stockfish

[@luisfnogueira]

Carlsen precision 99.2 Stockfish precision 99.1 Our guy is a beast. Thats the reason why brazilians got the chills seeing Supi defeat the champion when they played.

[@ayushsekhar8120]

@@steelsteez6118 he meant Brazilian GM Supi.

[@soflynn22]

what a game that was

[@WestKillaGames]

Ok, eu não sabia disso. So brazillians can beat Carlsen? Lmao that's goooooooood!

[@nausadulabedinrifat7498]

He won the first place in chess 9lx

[@vibovitold]

it's not just because he's so strong (it's just blitz after all), but the style in which it happened. the finishing sacrifice was painfully beautiful, and this Brazilian GM found it in seconds.

[@gionnybanana9613]

"the word's most powerfull chess engine wins against stockfish"

[@Sheep.]

Stockfish got flagged lmao.

[@Macius192]

i think he knew its stockfish since very early and he still played his best instead of tilting and he got equal endgame what a legend

[@rykehuss3435]

Just a bad cheater, nothing more

[@scarcedude3353]

@@alfa-psi *its imperative that you go touch some grass

[@kaustubhsinghchandel1789]

This guy's uncle used to stock fish in Norway

[@gardenmenuuu]

😅😅😅😅

[@ASLUHLUHC3]

Hahaha

[@wael128]

@@gardenmenuuu funny india moment 🐄

[@gardenmenuuu]

@@wael128 ???

[@JJ-kl7eq]

Carlsen cheated by using Carlsen! It’s an unfair advantage to be the best ever.

[@AdityaSharma001]

Lol Dude 😂😅😂

[@Adherento]

True, terrible cheater that Carlsen. Who would think that he'll try to use Carlsen against poor Stockfish? Sad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@raffaeledivora9517]

Unbelievable how they allow people to play using a 2900 engine... using Carlsen should be banned

[@davesvens8697]

LOL

[@LolLol-fi2tx]

Carlsen used magnusfish.

[@delacruzjohnsen4037]

Carlsen vs stockfish Carlsen: Yea, he's doing alright. HAHAHAHA

[@wintersoldier267]

This Stockfish guy seems almost as good as Magnus

[@cocolcool1]

He Seouls consider going pro O_o

[@jurjenvanderhoek316]

If he used an engine, why did he run out of time?

[@hochspannungstechnikstudy3056]

Not enough processor Power. For calculating all possible moves. Thats why.

[@rebel1766]

@@hochspannungstechnikstudy3056 no, because of making the same moves into another program.

[@aClownBaby-]

Yeah, stockfish should work on time management

[@shobhitagrawal7566]

Stockfish: against which engine I am playing who has so much time advantage and making almost perfect moves naturally?!

[@raffaeledivora9517]

Carlsen v.2.0.20... very unfair not letting Stockfish know he was playing against an engine

[@wyggam438]

Simplifying the position early on and trading queens is probably a good strategy when playing against an engine as they thrive in complex positions much better than human players. Carlsen was probably lucky his opponent chose this kind of openning. Still the fact that he managed to hold a slight edge for most of the tame and beat this cheater on the clock just shows how strong of a player he is. Even cheating isn't a guarantee or winning against him.

[@animefan7424]

Well, we don't know what type of engine Alek was using, it could have been a weak one or a strong one but could not achieve a decent depth quickly

[@Obi-WanKannabis]

they thrive in complex positions, but in a blitz game complex positions also take a lot of time, so the best way to beat a cheater is to go ultra defensive and make quick passive moves. But if you're Magnus Carlsen you ain't got to do that

[@rykehuss3435]

A good cheater guaranteed beats him in all time controls slower than 1+0. He was just a bad cheater, taking like 7 seconds per move, can't premove etc.

[@rykehuss3435]

@@Obi-WanKannabis The best way to beat a cheater is to flag him. There is no other chance. But a good cheater can blitz out moves in 1-2 seconds and can also premove obvious takes etc. If youre up against a good cheater you have no chance in anything slower than 1+0 bullet, no matter if your name is Magnus Carlsen or not.

[@Bigzthegreat]

magnus and hikaru are literally better then the first stockfish. Freakin' insane.

[@fatfighterxDDD]

playing so many moves vs stockfish and still not being in a losing position is just incredible

[@jaiminvd4]

@4:05 magnus saying pawn hunting is not my style and we know that stockfish is a pawn eater, what a way to mock stockfish.😂😂😂

[@notAYUSHGAMING]

True

[@aglieglie998]

The crazy thing is that even with Stockfish the guy wasn't gonna win :D

[@jty9631]

You see it a lot in online games with cheaters, even other than chess like shooter games. The cheater gets a match with a famous pro, is an obvious cheater, but often the pro still wins because theres more to the game than just accuracy.

[@rohithjacob4699]

@@jty9631 can u explain whats more to it? (Im not in serious mode.. just asking😅)

[@sechpog7426]

@@rohithjacob4699 in this case, time

[@Julian-eg6vu]

@@rohithjacob4699 enginges often do not really understand the position, they just calculate lots of moves and then evaluate the result. There is no strategy or positional understanding.

[@HenryMcCraken4]

@@Julian-eg6vu did you just say engines have no positional understanding compared to humans? Lol thats just not true

[@pectenmaximus231]

I love how Magnus evaluates positions for equality throughout the game like an engine

[@SpecialAgentBillMaxwell]

Crazy that he held his own for so long, but you can tell at the end that he knows.

[@stephen0793]

At the end he totally knew it was Stockfish lol

[@tenningale]

"He played well for his rating" with a grin lol...

[@billj4525]

You think? I think he would have thought stockfish would have played better considering Magnus had the better position at the end. He had to have known something was up though.

[@jimjim3979]

​@@billj4525 he obviously knows it was stockfish, but the loss has nothing to do with stockfish level, just with time player gets to set the moves to engine and then the recommended back to the real game

[@Stl71]

Carlsen at the end : "There is a new update for your engine pal...This version sucks.".

[@The3pleThreat]

Magnus knew he was playing against an engine when SFish went King F7. Cheeky grin gets replaced by a series of calculations, compliments how well the other player is doing, and that he is hoping he can get to a favourable ending! Pure class as always from the Champ!

[@dufasaurjoe2899]

stockfish must be pissed that he had such a slow user moving the pieces for him

[@nobledeer5831]

Stockfish need time to think for every move you need to do For example if you need to do the first move you do immediatly but stockfish need to think Like 5 seconds

[@lukasantos6991]

@@nobledeer5831 well he doesn't

[@nobledeer5831]

@@lukasantos6991 you can change the time i know but you can see from the video he is using the free stockfish on internet and that stockfish need time

[@lukasantos6991]

@@nobledeer5831 yes, that's true, but stockfish can play opening or first 4 moves without thinking

[@nobledeer5831]

@@lukasantos6991 If you use the premium edition for sure but do you think someone can be that stupid to pay for get banned in a chess site? Is like buy a ferrari for destroy with an hammer. At that point take an old destroyed car.

[@juliusevola3755]

MC after move 8: “sorry for not having fireworks at this game. It will be a dull pawn ending and, by the way, I’m a little bit better” !!!!

[@konsolebox]

"This guy really has no respect." Lol

[@chimpalahee]

9:10 Them eyebrows and that smirk haha

[@peterhans3495]

I love it, how carlsen can keep such a good position against an engine in a Blitz game. This is absolutely insane. If you have ever played against an engine you will know how crushing it usually feels

[@hordechess7629]

well it wasnt 100% stockfish

[@billj4525]

Magnus had the better position in the final position. Does anyone know if every move was stockfish? I guess Magnus got a lucky opening that simplified the game into a very equal endgame. That's the only thing I could think of, but even that is so unlikely.

[@信者の男]

​@@billj4525 stockfish doesn't hesitate in simplifying a position. There was a misevaluation in beginning so maybe he was using a stockfish with a lower depth. And Maybe the guy picked the opening and there was a moment that he connected his pawns too fast, probably it was his call.

[@100sailorman]

Stockfish: "damn, this guys plays well"

[@stem6109]

Plot twist: cheater's moves was randomly coinciding with the engine's

[@ReasonMakes]

There are more chess positions than there are stars in our universe. Chances are pretty low. Of course there are many nonsense moves but even in lines with some credibility there are so many variations. Engine correlation is very telling.

[@louiscyfer6944]

@@ReasonMakes there are actually more than atoms in the universe.

[@xNanoc]

@@louiscyfer6944 in the observable universe actually

[@louiscyfer6944]

@@xNanoc technically we know how big the universe is, including the part we can't see, and it still applies

[@xNanoc]

@@louiscyfer6944 no we do not know en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe second sentence

[@nail3692]

I like how Stockfish guy didn't even get a winning position

[@Spoon80085]

Magnus: "nf6 is supposed to be bad." Stockfish: "Damnit, why didn't I think of that!"

[@joelmacinnes2391]

5:38 'so he went for this option... but now I'm a little bit better' Stockfish:

[@123pni8]

Aleksander afterwards: what engine are you using it must be better.

[@IAMDIMITRI]

Engine plays perfect. Magnus plays perfecter.

[@TheSoulBlossom]

perfectlier

[@harshuttarwar1027]

Imagine using an engine and still losing 🤣

[@MrRop-yp3wt]

Well coz it takes time coz you are technically moving many pieces at once. You play the opponents game on the engine the play yours then the engine gives you the right move. Then you go back to the real game and move.If it were 10 minutes he would have beaten magnus. It hard to use engine in blitz

[@Hutzstylet]

carlsen knew the 2k1 dude been cheating yet he was so confident and calm that he'd still beat him lol

[@thomash.larsen6932]

@Strahinja so what? It's an engine, bum.!

[@treeze9078]

@Strahinja No Magnus would have drawn that game even in a Classical Match :)

[@jonnyhirse5949]

@Strahinja How should Stockfish destroy a super-gm in ten moves with their opening-preparation? The Stockfish in this game was weaker, because of the time-limit, not much time to calculate

[@anonanon6764]

@Strahinja Much depends on the position. Magnus would stand no chance in any complex middlegame but in a mostly simplified endgame where the machine's overwhelming tactical superiority is less important, he can certainly play well enough to draw with a top engine. I do not believe he would lose the final position in this game if they continued with classical time control.

[@jonnyhirse5949]

@Strahinja Neither was I speaking of mate. The opening preparation in most main lines is easily 10-15 moves deep, so the first 10-15 moves would be Engine vs Engine, that was what I was saying. No advantage there for Stockfish.

[@aesaehttr]

Stockfish: f5 Carlsen: hears "FINISH HIM" from above

[@PinkasBrown44]

´He played really well for his rating. There´s no doubt about that.´ (tongue-in-cheek) ;)

[@davidwhite2949]

PinkasBrown44 Yes, classic quote

[@MrSamiGigi]

Looked like Stockfish was a Fish In a Barrel for Magnus.

[@nothosaur]

Hey, Aleksander-K, you've got a chance to play basketball one on one against Michael Jordan in his prime. Go for it! Aleksander-K: Nah, send someone else to play, pretending to be me.

[@permanentlybored195]

Magnus: “i feel like im the better player here.”

[@bookskamaki]

It's scary that stock fish couldn't win Magnus

[@francescomorgante1496]

It should be the opposite

[@marius3757]

Stockfish could easily beat Magnus. The cheater just needs time to let Stockfish do it's thing and that meant he lost on time in the end.

[@bustarogers9990]

mario_ lol i hope you're joking, Stockfish would crush Magnus and every GM on the planet combined.

[@GooTube3110]

Busta Rogers stockfish was not better at the end

[@betochiwas]

@@GooTube3110 it lost on time because the cheater was bad even cheating.

[@mukhammadkodirabdurasulov310]

The most visible sign of cheating is that they use much time even where's only one valid move, or at least too few moves that make sense. Imagine your opponent using 10 seconds to capture back the queen when he has like 2 minutes left on his clock.

[@heitor7211]

Me: moves e4 Stockfish: Mate in 57

[@AfterTom]

Saying "I'm a bit better here" against a computer is something not many people can do

[@dikydnapro5499]

Magnus : What can I say, He played really well for his rating... There's no doubt about that.

[@CodyBunker]

Magnus beats stockfish while also commentating on the match. Hahaha! Magnus is the GOAT

[@rykehuss3435]

No, Magnus beat a bad cheater.

[@sakireren9310]

@@rykehuss3435 not a bad cheater for sure maybe has a slow computer or hands but this doesnt mean that engine is bad

[@rykehuss3435]

@@sakireren9310 Cheater is a human + an engine/other outside help. A cheater is bad if one of those is bad. The best cheaters are already good chess players, and only use engines sparingly. They are very rarely if ever caught.

[@sakireren9310]

@@rykehuss3435 human and the engine is not bad only device is slow

[@rykehuss3435]

@@sakireren9310 Nope, human was bad in this case. Slow mouse movement, slow at copying the moves. Thats bad and leads to results like where a bad cheater can still lose by getting flagged. A better cheater can copy moves much faster, in 2 seconds tops. Not 5 seconds. A great cheater has an overlay that reads the position and updates it automatically, and only uses cheat moves here and there, and already knows how to play at the level he is, but is boosted maybe 100-200 points higher than he would otherwise be.

[@KHANPIN]

Alexsander accomplished what we all wanted to see done, Magnus playing a bot without initially knowing so. Legend.

[@alex_playz61]

Magnus: I think I'm a little better here. Stockfish: Am I a joke to you?

[@j.a.8992]

It's always striking how good top players' mental game is. If it were me, I'd be overconfident since he's like 1000 elo points lower and make a bunch of bad moves (and obviously lose) but Magnus just played the best moves he saw. I expect no less from the world champ, but still well done!

[@rokanza2293]

It doesn't really make sense not to play best moves possible, it's very lazy and won't make you better obviously , but I understand what you mean

[@DenverJohn]

That's my main weakness. When I play weaker players I struggle to play at my best.

[@Tunkert]

I only have this problem when I play against ppl below 1000

[@billj4525]

@@Tunkert Yeah, sometimes when you play people that low, you wonder if you could get away with things that you assume your opponent wont see rather than playing a move that you know is better. Sometimes you know they won't see the things your contemplating. I try to resist the urge to play like that against very weak players though, but I know the feeling.

[@Tunkert]

@@billj4525 exactly. It's also why some blunders aren't blunders at all just cuz it's nearly impossible to see unless you're 3000 elo

[@ExcelTradersPlaybook]

He had no chance... poor Stockfish

[@justinmccoy4270]

I think Carlsen regularly scrimmages the engines so he prolly was just having another day at the office 🤣

[@JB_inks]

Everyone is missing the point. The guy most likely cheats with everyone he plays. He should be banned.

[@pk-fi1ok]

so report him

[@pk-fi1ok]

@@OswaldRiera1 I like your explanation. We should just ignore them.

[@centralprocessingunit2564]

so in your mind cheating against the GOAT means you cheat against everyone? LOLOLOLOL.

[@JB_inks]

@@centralprocessingunit2564 yes. Do keep up, dumbdumbs

[@centralprocessingunit2564]

@@JB_inks stop talking to yourself

[@GreenknightBrola]

Homie played a perfect blitz game and Carlson said "hes pretty good for his rank"

[@Ahmed.4411]

Man just said an engine played "Ok"

[@goiviredmi9]

Carlsen is a walking STOCKFISH

[@antonio1581]

"'He' played really well for his rating" HAHAHA!

[@AlexanderCheong]

Magnus: He played really well for his rating and there's no doubt about that. AlphaZero: Finally a worthy opponent.

[@rykehuss3435]

Latest SF would destroy AlphaZero

[@divyam5935]

@@rykehuss3435 no one asked

[@rykehuss3435]

@@divyam5935 Dont care

[@melk100]

I imagine people that cheat in recreational games feel good about how good they look to them selves. Imagine the lack of awareness needed to gain confidence, by making things up? Eg: Self: How are you? Stupid Ego: Great, I just beat the WC in chess and Mike Tyson in a street fight. Also pretty happy about marrying Marlin Monroe. Perceived self: Wow this guy is impressive!

[@delboy723]

A once in a lifetime chance to try your game against the best player in history, and the guy uses an engine instead?? Seems like a wasted opportuntity.

[@maelstrom57]

1:31 "Hmm, Kxd8 or Kf7? I should calculate some lines just to be sure."

[@happygood18]

Me: Moves a pawn Stockfish: I see that you are doing king's sacrifice.

[@matteochiarino662]

Lol but actually if you're fairly good (like around 1800-1900 rating) you can at least make it to the endgame with like a pawn and a knight less than Stockfish

[@happygood18]

@@matteochiarino662 But still winning or at least drawing is Impossible.

[@anirudhpai5617]

What's crazy is that in the final position, stockfish 11 (from lichess) says that white is winning with a +0.8 eval

[@blackpanther3422]

It aint winning. Its almost equal

[@saneernavab2531]

I think he meant to say white is slightly better

[@anirudhpai5617]

@@blackpanther3422 Yeah, 0.8 is almost equal but its still winning for white

[@blackpanther3422]

@@anirudhpai5617 not 100% winning.. maybe slightly better than black... for carlsen against a noob surely winning..

[@synchronium24]

@@anirudhpai5617 "almost equal but still winning for white" You must mean "white is better". That is certainly within the drawing margin.

[@alecxander9573]

Carlsen: *lose Queen* Carlsen: Oh no! So anyway... Me: *anxiety intensifies*

[@LostPageWasTaken]

Everyone: He is a cheater !! Noob !! The Cheater: I just wanted to watch Magnus vs Stockfish

[@tejassonawdekar]

Aleksander: see I knew people here use engine. I caught an engine user, he's beating stockfish.

[@YoavMilikow]

So stupid... LOL, getting the chance to play against Magnus and just using an engine 🤣🤣 Also at the end he just let his time out and made no attempt to preserve his time.

[@ym276]

It would be kinda funny if he actually beat Carlsen, but he couldn't even avoid losing on time lol

[@ostrichious2042]

Y M i think he lost on purpose, few people r senseless enough to win by use of engines at that rating. either gets u caught or makes u a btch :p

[@chessmadness814]

ye that was so stupid. 15 seconds left and still waiting stockfish to move, that tells you the iq of this stupid guy

[@YoavMilikow]

@@chessmadness814 hahahah

[@ostrichious2042]

@@anteater1818 oh lmao

[@trucid2]

I'm impressed how well Magnus played here. According to my engine he made only two slack moves, one of them being rook to c4.

[@akramansari885]

Which engine do you use? leela or stockfish

[@trucid2]

@@akramansari885 Both

[@akg0376]

When stockfish meets stock- crocodile 😅

[@vinchinzo594]

"These guys have no respect! That's a good thing though... shouldn't be scared of me!" Mad, mad respect for that. Shows a lot about his character.

[@tuanizzah4449]

*Stockfish:* let's go game on *Second later:* ahh it's magnus hah, sorry dude u are on your own, im out...

[@robert1292]

"he played really well for his rating" his rating: 15.1

[@edwinpickett13]

It's sad when you think about it. The engine spends it's time analysing millions of positions against a human who is analysing no more than 3 - 5 moves in advance in a couple of combinations and still gets creamed.

[@SanjuBaba-Chessmaster]

U r write man,,,,,,human brain is osam ,,,,,,love magnus

[@bioalam]

The cheater: his engine faster than mine

[@siciliandefence2073]

I think Boss Magnus already know that there something odd with his opponent when it made the move ..... Nc6 as he was saying "This guy really have no respect" giving hint it's a chess engine 🤭

[@faznaz7455]

Sicilian Defence It shows how Carlsen misevaluated his Bf4 move as if the guy saw even further than the world champion.

[@ZoltyWasTaken.]

The World champion knows to to sacrifice his queen to win the game