Carnage - Nothing Fits Our V8 Lexcen!

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[@Phil_Bennett]

Astra electric power steering pump will not disappoint and then run the turbo header over the alternator. Will end up better for everything involved imo. Also a custom made plenum top rear entry style would look sexy!

[@Low760]

Or Mazda3 PS pump.

[@healthyobession]

The Hoffs 1uz supra didn't seem to be limited by the standard plenum. Don't worry about it. Standard lead on plug ignition too iirc

[@Low760]

Bigger turbo and bigger boost area by way of turbo piping running from the back. And he runs all the boost. Definitely gains to be had by the replacement intake when not going to the extreme. And I was pretty sure it was using coils not stock ignition.

[@wobblysauce]

And to me looks better then the high ram also

[@Low760]

@@wobblysauce given on the skid factory with the Fairlane it gained power.

[@craigritchie1933]

Just put the stock manifold back on , it'll fit under the bonnet, and you'll still make the required HP

[@clintonepps3666]

The bonus is the stock can be modded to fit a larger throttle body

[@tommyau2006]

Scotty..............the guy who never seems to get fazed by problems that arise 😊

[@heathsmetalwerx]

Cause he isn't paying 😂😂😂😂

[@brucerichards9102]

Full of admiration for your determination to practically and economically overcome any problem.

[@terrytzones1215]

Morning Scotty Loving this Build keep up the good work👍

[@rogerveal1336]

Stock intake looks great and with boost will make minimal power difference.

[@davidbarnsley8486]

The sound effects were good Don’t they say we need another inch 😂😂😂

[@troyday5887]

Vn group a bonnet cover should give you a bit more room,scotty

[@neilperry2224]

When you have got the manifold / plenum, spray them in red crinkle paint. Then polish up the high points, and the Toyota symbol and stakes on the plenum.

[@fnqhkgts620]

I was coming here to suggest an Astra electric pump, and that I can send you the one I have as I am not using it, as I have decided to go EPAS from a Kia Cerato. However, after reading all the comments I see that you are not keen on the Astra pumps due to the noise and current draw. Maybe look into an EPAS rack conversion or even on the column? Would be a great conversion to do, and show the viewers that you don't need to spend megabucks on getting EPAS to work. As for "Scotty is not a teenager anymore" when you were thinking about pulling the drivers seat out to get access to the booster, I know where you are coming from mate!!!! I've got just under 6 months to go before I hit the big six oh, getting up and down off the floor when working on cars ain't as easy as it used to be!! Keep the great content flowing, and the double entendre and dad jokes coming!!!

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Thanks mate, and nice job on reading the comments before adding another "Just use an Astra pump..." to the list :)

[@danielpriestley2926]

This thing is fighting ya hey 🤣 really enjoying it mate 👍

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Tell me about it

[@matthewsmith6330]

hey scotty, maybe you could run a remote booster like a older land rover, hide it under the driverside guard similar to the evap ball thing on the passenger side

[@williamhardes8081]

i think some of the older land cruisers had them too. might be easier to find?

[@shoominati23]

The old extendable radio antennas are the best thing to check bonnet clearance - clamp em where you wanna measure clearances in the enginebay, close bonnet and then measure the retracted length

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Good tip

[@davidjohnson8474]

Something I've done and I've seen done here in the states is face the alternator backwards! It doesn't care what way it spins!

[@STREETMACHINETV]

That's interesting

[@davidjohnson8474]

@@STREETMACHINETV I hope it helps you out!

[@Bozza_1]

You could use that Holley plenum that you already have flipped around with a modified 90deg bend on it for the throttle body. The brake booster might still be in the way though.

[@user-my1yg5en8z]

Hey Scotty had a similar problem putting an LS1 in a Porsche 944 , the solution was hydroboost . Great braking boost powered from your power steer pump .Brett

[@chris929rr7]

My old man passed a few years back and there's a pretty mint unaltered 944 in the garage. How does one go about installing a LS1. I have heard of LS swapped 944's but have no idea of what's involved. Any fab work needed or any really special or is it pretty straight forward and then throw a haltec ecu at it?

[@michaelblair4744]

Hey Scotty, Al and Woody have used Subaru boosters on a few projects as they are smaller diameter. What about old school HT leads and remote coils. It won't look as pretty, but there will be more clearance and there won't be a problem with the power goals you have. Also could you lower the mounts and/or notch the K frame to get more clearance with the bonnet etc?

[@Low760]

Ign1a coils are more powerful than any coil on plug available actually. So it's not a silly idea.

[@kanesaw7456]

Scotty. Just do the astra pump for power steering also i ran LS1 coils with custom leads instead, easy to get to plugs in it. Also the why i ran K frame spacers so that intake could fit under the bonnet. ITs alot of work the old 1uz in commdore.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I don't like how much current the Astra pumps draw

[@kanesaw7456]

@@STREETMACHINETV YEh true and sound terrible

[@STREETMACHINETV]

@kanesaw7456 we had one on the MX5 and I hated it. We ended up going manual steer on the MX5 instead

[@heathsmetalwerx]

Good to show what goes on in shoehorn conversations where the engine is just too big lol. Barra the world it's much easier 😂😂😂

[@ptizzle9343]

Love the JZ reference in the intro, I see what did you there 😂

[@WZONERACING]

grate work 👌👌I run a single turbo 1uz get rid of the power steering pump and run a electric pump will give you heaps of room and will drive like a dream I run my pump in the boot works perfectly.. grate build 👌👌

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Thanks for the tip!

[@funkychicken7207]

Hey Scotty, Maddat sell custom small can brake boosters and do a range of master cylinders to suit if you truly get stuck. Love ya work. Keep on keeping on 👍

[@danielspencer1973]

So many opportunities for complex solutions! At least you got the fuel hose! 🧐

[@TinShed]

I think the standard looks better scotty. You can always run a carbide through the runners and open them up.. We've always played the game of MM.. it's not fun..😅

[@deankdx]

Been watching HOME BUILT BY JEFF? he pulled the Ferrari V8 from his 105 Alfa a HEAP of times to set everything up, epic build if you like this kind of build. loving this Lexen build and combo

[@aronkatsiokalis3329]

I used castlemain rod shop kframe spacers to gain space under bonnet on my VS commodore. They vary in size depends what you need to clearance

[@davidvincent2051]

You could also use a Mazda electric power steering pump. The one on the 2006 Mazda 3 is small enough that it sits behind the R/H headlight.

[@darrenlangford6664]

A Toyota Commodore V8. Might confuse some people. But I like it 👌

[@bloodreighn]

Hey Scotty, What about a remote booster'? The VH44 Booster is a remote type for a single circuit system, surely there is a more up to date type?

[@MkdMuzza]

You might have some luck using a Toyota Hiace brake booster Scotty. I heard they are pretty compact for the van application so they might be a good solution here. Bonus points for more Toyota parts too 😃

[@Simmons1]

Relocate the battery Astra Powersteering Pump where the battery goes. Maybe mill/machine some of the deck height from the intake runners on the engine side and from the under plenum to lower the profile? Can you relocate the brake booster to the passenger side, Im sure I remember seeing something to do with bmw and relocation of the booster

[@aaronwest906]

You could always consider having a top made and maybe scallop the lower section and recess the throttle body lower into the lower section using the neck from the standard manifold then make a top section. Or just leave the standard one on.😮

[@user-hw5wo4cr6f]

For the power steering just go for a holden asdra one

[@brizwinston2303]

VN Group A bonet style would look ok I reckon...reasonable subtle but not too big 👌

[@mizzi7607]

With the bonnet put spacers in where the bonnet bolts down it lifts the back of the bonnet off and still looks standard had to do it with my l67 hilux

[@TorqHub]

Are you able to flip the driver's side manifold and run a rear crossover pipe? Will solve the alternator/powersteering clearance issue, aswell as keep some of the hot piping away from the inlet side of the engine bay. Good to see the stock intake manifold back on there, certainly isnt going to hold you back any whatsoever, the juice simply wasnt worth the squeeze in this case for aesthetics.

[@tturi2]

Run coil leads off the spark plugs to ls coils, get the car running NA first then turbo it, stock header on the drivers side merged into a single header on the passo side or long tube headers and a remote turbo under the back seat

[@michaelb5330]

Looks like Scotty will be doing some custom bspoke exhaust and intake welding cutting and fun and a smaller booster heard Gemini ones are smaller maybe Subaru

[@stuartgale5150]

I used to have a HQ, but the booster was from a HT, if memory serves. It was longer and much smaller in diameter.

[@commodorenut]

There was 1 particular HK/T/G booster that was smaller in diameter as you have noted. It was also used on the XU1 & A9X. HDT also used the dual diaphragm version of this on the 5.6L stroker cars, like my Brock wagon, as they produced more boost from less vacuum than the VK/VL boosters. At 9” diaphragm diameter, it is significantly smaller in diameter than the original HQ-WB boosters Holden used which are 11”. I did some checking, and the VB-VR boosters are 9” as well, so this won’t help Scotty unfortunately. Watching the video part way through, I was thinking the shallower plastic VS one might have been short enough to clear, but turns out it wasn’t. No point trying the VT onwards ones - they are almost as big in diameter where it matters for that coil. The hard part with any replacement booster is having the right fit-up orientation for the master cylinder, so you can retain it (and avoid many hassles with engineering, and having to fit bias adjusters and other crap if you can’t find a master cylinder that matches the original front & rear bore sizes). This was where HDT were clever, as that “special” booster only needed a custom firewall bracket, and took the normal VL 1” master. While there are a myriad of smaller diameter booster options out there, most, if not all, won’t be an easy fit without numerous other changes.

[@The_Performance_Laboratory]

Best thumbnail ever.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Thanks mate, it helps to see it on a big screen

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I call it The Wheel of Misfortune

[@Brandonvscars695]

Double comment so my apologies Al and woody tend to use suby boosters in a lot of their builds and mcm used a hilux/hiace booster in their rb 240z too Just a couple potential options, there’s definitely gonna be one out there for you

[@351tgv]

As ao said in the previous video, was not a fan of the gonzo intake manifold, while I agree for show purposes it would look wicked but in practice as a sleeper it would be yeah. As for the other issues, lol, imagine Toyota in 1989 looking at the VN engine bay and saying how can we make our quad cam V8 fit, you can see why the said F it V6 pushrod it is. I'm sure you will get it all working and be doing high 10's in no time.

[@7071t6]

Mate Scotty its a VR/VS cut the bonnet, put a small hole in it that's it leave it open so even more cold air gets in the engine bay and intake ? Or cut the inner bracing on the bonnet to make room if its in the way, plus adjust the rear part of the bonnet to lift it up as well, like old school lifting the rear areas of the bonnet etc?🙌🙌✌✌👍👍😀😀

[@STREETMACHINETV]

It did that with the VN bonnet and I hate it. This time it stays under the bonnet.

[@7071t6]

@@STREETMACHINETV ok mate i get it, but keep the oe looking thing and sleeper ,so keep up the great work Scotty. :)

[@Dustinielson]

That sound effect at 3.49 🙂

[@mannbat]

Have you considered an electronic brake booster rather than a traditional vacuum style? Electronic are reasonably common now for EV conversions given the lack of a vacuum source

[@3800TURBO]

Put the original booster back in and remote mount the coil. Just run a lead into the hole. Can get the lead on with pointy nose pliers down the hole.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I like the coil on plug look

[@theoriginalwallace]

Put in a remote booster under the dash' like I've done, Scotty! Cheers. Leigh.

[@backyardbangers1012]

Would be awesome to see you make or get made intake with twin throttle body. Then they could be smaller but bigger overall. Hehe

[@chrislang3628]

Astra power steer pump is needed Scotty

[@Brandonvscars695]

Havnt watched the whole ep yet but a wise man called Benny once said The only good thing to come from an astra is it’s electric pwr steering pump That may be a good solution to one of your problems

[@bobroberts2371]

Run hydraboost , these are small, and have great pedal feel however it does need a power steering pump. There are some larger trucks and maybe some larger SUVs that use . electric over hydraulic. Search for Electric-Hydraulic Brake Booster

[@MrMov41t]

Astra power steering pump 👌

[@GODEES77]

Chris from mindiej used a remote power steering pump in his LS VN,wasn’t overly expensive

[@jordanedwards4854]

Idea for the bonnet, you could use an xr8 bonnet

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

Holden Astra pwr steering electric pump conversion, and i think Subaru boosters are very small (or Corolla, cant remember)

[@daleruse3865]

Scotty, what about using 2UZ intake instead? The throttle body is mounted to front of the intake.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I don't think there's any advantage over the stock intake

[@tysonlucas8671]

Looking at how much material is on the manifolds surely you could mill sum of the excess material away to get it to sit lower under the bonnet.

[@BrickNewton]

Who doesn't need another inch Scotty 😂

[@anothercarnut2]

does a low rise holley intake fit??? can always slice a bit out of the high one and re weld maybe??

[@PaulSullivan-ku7qt]

Can you flip the exhaust manifold the other way, blank off the outlet and weld on an outlet facing down between cylinder 1 & 2?

[@user-ub9mk1lk8t]

Hey have you considered a astra or Volvo power steering pump and I reckon put the hump of a BA xr8 into the bonnet.

[@brandonyoung1802]

pretty sure the rod shop makes kframe spacers to make an lsa fit under the bonnet

[@aaronphillips3615]

what about an electric power steering out of an astra might work a bit better and free up some space

[@Techheadzc32]

Time for an Astra electric/hydro ps pump mate! You can get around the alt.

[@aaronwest906]

Theres also the option of electric power steering like an astra pump.

[@John-ok6sq]

Why not LS style coils and separate plug wires/leads? You could mount the coils anywhere you had space.

[@dinosshed]

Could you use LS coils with lead extensions? I'd not be running without a booster either.

[@tonygeorgievski4746]

Maybe the vt booster conversion will work a lot of guys do it on the vk and vl with Ls conversion

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Nah, looked at it and it was worse than the VS

[@stevecurtis5321]

Rear mount the world :)

[@anomamos9095]

You could try making a spacer to raise the Toyota plenum to increase the runner length, and cut the throttle plate off and weld on a bigger one.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

You would have to cut more that the throttle plate off. 70mm is plenty

[@PARKMOTORSPORT]

Go ls coils with a plug. There just as good block power hook off don’t need it for straight lines!! Or elec power hook

[@EricaMTB]

A GQ patrol clutch booster is a small diameter.

[@scotttisco]

What about running a vh44 remote booster? I have one in my bagged navara and works a treat

[@stevenbullock9274]

Xr8 bonnet moulds send some on the Holdens

[@vintagetractorsaustralia]

Turn the intake around and run the intake pipe through the firewall

[@davidnewton3485]

can you lower the cross member to make it fit better ? i did with a vz commodore with an LSA to keep it under the hood

[@daleruse3865]

Scotty, what about using 2UZ or 3UZ intake instead? The throttle body is mounted to front of the intake.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I've never seen one, but sounds interesting. We have a solution now.

[@daleruse3865]

@@STREETMACHINETV 2uz and 3uz petrol Landcruiser

[@STREETMACHINETV]

@daleruse3865 I know of the motors but haven't physically seen one, so I don't know the difference other than capacity

[@karloz83]

Can you get like a marks adapter brake booster set up hydraulic one runs off power steering pump like they make for a cruiser or patrol ?

[@TheHBWC]

1 LS style coils 2 can't go backwards with the turbo manifold into the left hand side one?

[@martingidaszewski7342]

Could you get an Astra electric power steering system, that way you can put the bulk of the unit in the boot?

[@vr350]

Use some k frame spacers. Will give you a bit more room. Astra pump?

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Those Astra pumps draw alot of amps, we discovered that on the MX5 before we made it manual steering

[@xozindustries7451]

Turn the intake around backwards so the feed is towards the firewall, put an air to water intercooler inside the car

[@STREETMACHINETV]

LOL

[@darthvader8433]

Just a thought.... Going up is a problem. Just come on a mental frolic for a moment... What if you channel the lower manifold and have the centre of the throttle body dropped by say 100mm. Of course you'd then have to close the top too. I'm thinking about the clearance *under* the lower manifold allowing a fabricated round section say 125mm wide, to which you could attach the throttle body. It will change the air flow to go from low then up into the runners, but air bends well, as seen in LS3 manifolds. Just ideas, I don't have the car in front of me let alone the TIG skill needed.

[@aaronscott4153]

Why dont u machine the mounting flange on the bottom of the intake adapter

[@Xav.]

Might need to use a 12v astra power steering pump

[@someyoungguy6990]

Scotty, have you thought about a quick n dirty port job to both intakes to open up the flow?

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I don't think we'll need it

[@someyoungguy6990]

@@STREETMACHINETV No doubt. But was thinking would be a nice intro for home porters to know where to start and what to use and look for.

[@dvkkp61]

Can you use a remote brake booster? Don’t hiaces have them?

[@anomamos9095]

Have you considered spacing the K frame down a little to lower the engine? Also is that plenum symmetrical ? If so the mustang one could go to the left side away from the booster.

[@STREETMACHINETV]

I explained my reasons for not doing that

[@anomamos9095]

@@STREETMACHINETV . I must have missed the explanation as I don’t recall hearing it.

[@markaston325]

What about a Gemini booster or a any other booster or keep with the Toyota theme a Toyota booster ?

[@LukeTheJoker]

This thing is fighting you all the way! Any chance of moving the engine and trans forward enough to clear the booster, or does that just create other issues with front clearance? Is a remote booster a possibility? Still hoping for the "Viva La Hemi" Street Freak build to happen!!!

[@STREETMACHINETV]

That creates all kinds of issues with the sump

[@LukeTheJoker]

@@STREETMACHINETV Ah, of course...

[@renependergrast7059]

Hay Scotty, what about a rear mount turbo set-up?

[@STREETMACHINETV]

No room, but it was considered

[@colinmiles9390]

I can see having someone make some extractors to suit it now because of room

[@thebudgetadventurer1879]

What about a VH40 or VH44 remote mount booster ? An option maybe

[@chrisrosie0584]

Electric power steer could get you some real estate back. Any scope to mill the flanges on the intakes down?

[@geordiegibson1210]

Scotty just use an electric power steering pump and an electric alternator. Then you can remote mount them anywhere, space isn't an issue.

[@shiftx1579]

The sleeper theory doesn't work so much if you're a well known tuber 😮 just send it big donk out the hood 👍👍

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Sure it does, while wagons are common enough

[@user-hw5wo4cr6f]

Have you thought qbout getting the throttle set up from a v8 100 series landcroser

[@fat14u]

Can you go rear x over and astra power steering pump

[@peterjewell9436]

Hsy scotty killing it try a subaru or a toyota brake booster they make smaller twin diaphram style that might just fit 👍👍✔

[@STREETMACHINETV]

Already decided to go for booster delete