Wizard 14, October 1992, Kayfabe Commentary

[@russworks2882]

You probably know that Alan Moore did a long run on Supreme. What was interesting to me was that at some point Rob Liefeld gave him the keys and asked him to reboot his whole universe. There was the Judgement Day series that basically recreated an entire company of characters. Moore only wrote a couple of new issues of Youngblood and Glory before the whole operation went bust. There was a book called Alan Moore's Awesome Adventures which printed the text of Moore's series proposals for Youngblood and Glory. It's a real education in planning out a superhero series and might be considered an appendix to the Alan Moore Writing for Comics manual.

[@jabbajuju]

Cartoonist Kayfabe and Coffee! I only wish I could fall down this rabbit hole you guys opened up for me instead of going to work! If you released them on Sunday morning we could spend all day digging in!

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

We'll be sticking with the tradition of having fun things to look forward to on Monday.

[@jabbajuju]

Cool

[@amirmalekpour4316]

Ryan just quit your job and dig on Monday’s .. less competition that way

[@terribled]

"This book was written sometime before it was published." Gold.

[@johnny2tons]

"Shatner - that's past tense, right?" Made me chuckle.

[@sark3153]

Every damn week I'm up way too late watching this. Keep it up guys!

[@Dolan_waddick23]

I have the Miracleman artist edition and several of Totleben’s pages are in there.

[@alancarnell2747]

Lol...I watched Ronnie Garvin wrestle Macho Man Randy Savage on my 13th birthday. Welch, WV National Guard Armory. I Think they were in a regional wrestling league at the time. This was a few years before Randy blew up on WWF.

[@theswan1852]

1:17:15 In the Kevin Smith issue Neal Adams there's a great story of Neal convinving Carmine Infantino that they have to pay back taxes on the original artwork that they are warehousing - 40 years worth. It's then that DC begins returning work to their creators.

[@oddObjekt]

Warheads was a really interesting Marvel UK title that always stuck with me when I picked it up back in the Image days.

[@whoffkne]

Nice shout out to the Sonic books - I just happened into a box of comics from a dude, I paid next to nothing for this box of like two hundred books and many of them were Archie Comics from this period, including a bunch of early Sonics, all newsstand editions also. It was a great buy.

[@MikeRileyComics]

""Stones of Hand" Ronny Garvin"

[@pixelforge4858]

cool segment on the pitt. love this channel.

[@maris4137]

I still have this issue in its polybag. Thanks to this episode, I know what's inside. 😅🤣

[@paulop4364]

That squat Flash you guys keep pointing out through this Wizard issue - was drawn by no other than Travis Charest - I think his first mainstream work for Flash annual #5 if in my old age I remember it correctly. Definitely influenced by Jim Lee, like you guys when I was young and still collected comics I followed artists. Travis's artwork stood out from all the other DC work that was coming out at the time. And I was not shocked when he turned up at Image.

[@scott.arnold]

Was going to comment the same... I followed him to Darkstars at DC, not a great book - but his art was so far above everything else at DC at the time (for my young Image-loving tastes)

[@isaacfleisher3117]

You guys should do an episode on Kevin Eastman and Tim Laird. There's alot there: The insane crossover success of TMNT. The short lived Kitchen Sink Press. The short lived comic book museum in Northampton, MA that introduced 9 yr old superhero fans to Frank Frazetta paintings. It's my hometown so I've got a personal investment but I really think it would make a great episode.

[@NuclearConvoy]

Dunno if anyone has posted it before, but the Valeria/Spawn crossover issues were never actually released

[@doomsdaypicnic]

Neal Adams's Death to the Pee Wee Squad is one of the most mind-frying experiences you can inflict on your eyes. I uploaded it to my channel if you want to see it.

[@AnibalArocho]

Awesome! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqnVnn-PetahldE

[@somechickshairybutt]

Speaking of films by comic book artists, have you seen Gilbert Hernandez's The Naked Cosmos?

[@bulldawg982]

“In order for this work to reach completion” haha, great tantric pun when talking about Alan Moore porn comics

[@fischgeist9664]

Love the rant about the downtrodden X-Men allegory. Ed's spent so much time with those creepy mutants they're giving him nightmares.

[@reytorcaza2770]

Greetings from Colombia!

[@richdannys2906]

Re: the "Alan Moore Writing Comics" featured at the 49-minute mark: Back in 1988, the Comics Journal published a 3-Part "Alan Moore - On Writing For Comics" series, in issues #119-121. I'm pretty sure that the comic shown published those same Moore essays. The TCJ mentions that the original publisher of the Moore essays on Comics Writing, was a British Fanzine called: "Fantasy Advertiser. Don't know what year... Was it a pure coincidence that examples of Brian Bolland's artwork for "The Killing Joke" were left out of the Alan Moore segment?.. Or, would doing so, completely counter Jim's easy dismissal of Bolland as the "Best Penciler" and "Best Inker" chosen by O'Neill in the WIZARD #13 issue profile?..

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

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[@richdannys2906]

@@CartoonistKayfabe LOL ! Just sayin'...

[@Qster83]

Need to track this one down, was a big Thiebert fan. Imo MARVELS had the best take on "the metaphor"

[@xcornmuffinx]

Hyped for a deep dive into the writing comics book by Alan Moore. It recently got reprinted so it's available normally again. I'm going to say Art Thibert is like some sort of over but way low card wrestler. Someone like PN News who the crowd kind of liked but was never going to go very far. Or maybe someone like Norman Smiley, who was slightly over but everyone immediately forgot. I used to read CyberRad but only sporadically. It was the kind of thing that looked cool but I'd only find them in the dollar box at comic shows. I remember reading some Marvel UK stuff around this time. Knights of Pendragon and Deathshead 2 were good. Jim, please get out tracing paper and show how many heads tall Supreme is! I really want to see that.

[@fansform]

Ed, what’s your Jae Lee anecdote? You guys switched subjects.

[@LumberjackNick]

Anyone have any guesses at what comic company Ed is talking about? Timestamp: 13 minutes

[@brandonc2859]

I had this one

[@carrion_man3700]

Dope channel. Subbed.

[@romegavadquez6310]

He’ll always be T- Bart to me

[@oldmandavid7944]

i read a lot of digital comics , and i always want to read Neil ada,s Batman books , but the unfortunate thing is that DC has allowed him to re color his old work with modern-ish photoshop color , and it just doesnt work . the recolored version is the only version available , i even think if you buy collections of his old dc work it has the lame recoloring .

[@keithtilford9444]

Great episode. Hey Ed, not that it would necessarily change your mind on the beef with "mutants as metaphor", but you might at least be interested to read this book: nyupress.org/books/9781479823086/

[@louiechin2937]

my second issue of wizard!

[@KThorJensen1]

Obviously I'm a total mark for this podcast but serious props for showing respect to Toys R Us comics multipacks.

[@CartoonistKayfabe]

I still can account for how I acquired almost every comic in this studio and many of the first 200 come from multipack Toys R Us/ K-Mart multipacks.

[@ShogunZIlla]

That Westfield comics ad is so boring. Must be on purpose!