CAS IS BROKEN | F-16C

[@cameron1999cam]

4 x Aim 120 2 x GBU 24 6 x AGM65D That’s a terrifying load out for such a good performance jet

[@Tentacl]

@@cameron1999cam and also a fully loaded F-16c is a serious candidate for fierciest looking jet fighter...

[@makarevych]

The new Harrier at 12.0 with 4 GAM-65G is also busted

[@Tentacl]

@@makarevych I still didn't research anything with the G variant, are they much better than the D variant?

[@BiasThunderz]

​@@Tentacl they're more reliable, almost always 1 shot

[@Lolski_924]

wait so when a nato aircraft finally gets good cas capabilities its broken but an su25 with 40km missiles is fine?

[@Tentacl]

I have a MAD concept, both CAN be a problem?

[@michaels9739]

Kinda cute you think the SU25SM3 is anything near as good as this

[@Tentacl]

@@michaels9739 People always thing stuff they don't use is better.

[@amari2509]

erm what did he say its only nato cas thats broken lol

[@hungrymidget3896]

"finally"?? holy shit why are nato mains so dumb lmfao, this thing has been wrecking top tier grb for months and months before the su25 was out, and it still does

[@mr.z413]

After mavericks and hellfires buff F16C is a force to be reckoned with. AIM120 on top makes it the most dangerous foe in GRB

[@Bhoff1996]

new maverick buff is very nice

[@PatrickPanzerschreck]

I don't have a problem with the capabilities of CAS in top-tier. A good player, with situational awareness and game sence paired with a good loadout should be able to have great impact on the game. My problem is however that a there should be an equal counter. I feel like a good SPAA/SAM player should have equal chances against CAS and that is simply not the case. If the CAS player peaks inside the AA SPAA/SAM range, and drops his payload he can get out of the range way to easily. The only valid counter to CAS is playing CAS yourself or take a dedicated interceptor into your deck. I often do the latter and it is quite fun for a time but can be quite boring after a while. I really hope they revert some of the changes they did to SAMs like the VT1 or rebalance SPAA/SAM in general.

[@Tentacl]

CAS is a hard counter game. Either a single F-16 finish the match in 1 minute or a Pantsir or 2 make the game a no fly zone. This is actually awful for a game like War Thunder with the god awful lineup system.

[@mich421]

Pantisir radar has been nerfed now you also have interference with the terrain and things around you

[@Tentacl]

@@mich421 oh, cool, ty. Then something has to be done about Mavericks, because NATO planes usually carry 6 of them... maybe respawn in the airfield or other indirect nerf past 10.0 so CAS at least have a small time window to detect and kill before the whole team dies.

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@mich421 barely does anything

[@leonmoran9323]

Yes this is top dog for CAS but it faves Pantsir players so you have to be more careful engaging. If im in a su25sm3 i can just fire from 20km away and no spaa can touch me. So they put it up with fox 3 area and now its pretty dull and gets shot out of the sky by 120's most of the time i spawn in it.

[@kaans8338]

6:24 i mean where is bomb going its happens all the time i don’t understand why

[@BinaryKiller_Recoded]

Lmao, funny you should mention that CAS is broken... I just played with F-16C in my line up, ended up being spawn camped in the air by 15 enemy planes

[@Meister-der-Prokrastination]

To be fair, this intro Scene looks wild, but only works, if there is not Pantsir with 2 Braincells already in the Game

[@mich421]

If you fly high it will definitely notice you but if you fly low behind trees and hills the pantisir can't do anything to you

[@Optimusprime56241]

@@mich421 and you can’t do anything to it either 💀

[@videre8884]

CAS is also overpowered in reality. If you don't have a high-performance AA you are defenseless. War Thunder is a game but artificially making something worse than it is in reality is not a solution in my opinion. If CAS becomes too strong you should bring stronger AA systems into play. When your own team has advanced so far that it can already threaten or destroy the opponent's AA is the right moment to use CAS. Before that it would be a suicide mission. War is a team thing, why should it be any different in the game?? Tactics like in real life could undermine strong AA. Like overtaxing the AA systems with decoys etc. Or waiting until these things have to reload and then destroying them etc... I think that more realism can lead to more fun. While artificial downgrades ruin the game.

[@i_hate_sparksrafa8586]

How do you switch between targets in TWS?

[@EB-Ghost6]

it does it for you but i think there is a setting to soi your radar to each target but idk what it is

[@pheaktra_]

theres a keybind for it called "select radar/irst target to lock" it basically cycle thru targets on ur radar

[@texasthib2029]

Watching these KZbinr lobbies fucking infuriates me I rush with my hstvl cap scout 8 million people and get points for the f16c often without even killing anyone and there is ALWAYS a fucking pantsir with a missile already on the way before I spawn or on the odd chance there isn’t one up at that moment the agm65s do absolutely fucking nothing

[@n1coR]

You should fix your audio settings so we cant hear ur mouse and keyboard

[@Jagi603]

CAS ruined ground rb it’s just air rb now

[@gustaflekander718]

how do u lock the missiles on targets?

[@sirtarumar]

You need to bind a key in controls

[@luck8196]

@@sirtarumar what control is that

[@DracoSen21]

@@luck8196if you have it unlocked just do the test for it in modifications and it’ll teach u to lock and launch it

[@EB-Ghost6]

@@luck8196 more then one

[@gusty844]

Way better than su25sm3. And people still say its best cas. Wow 30-40km range but u need to hold 1 min track and die by aim120...

[@mich421]

The SU 25 is super slow that's its biggest problem and you don't have much maneuverability the only good thing is the thermal vision

[@gusty844]

@@mich421 ye, thermal is nice and range is nice. But if there is only one f16/f15 in the enemy team with aim120 and this happens almost always its done. Before fox 3 parch the su25 was good playeble