Но даты не сходятся, ведь в игре говорится что Кейс был подопытным у пантеона, но эту лавочку прикрыли в 70-х. А Белл попал в лапы США в 81м, то есть он никак не мог быть участником этого проекта.
@IceBurgZ13 күн бұрын
Case was tested on until June 1981
@clash822713 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZ может это ошибка в вашей локализации или в русской, но в игре черным по белому было написано что пантеон расформировали в конце 70ых,
@shawdawg36753 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZQuestion here: we know Jackson Caine works for Pantheon, but do the other members of Crimson One know about Pantheon? Is it possible the rest are actually good people, but made to hunt the good guys? Look at Baileys bio, she says she is there to hunt the "traitorous" Rogue Ops Team.
@boq780_2.021 сағат бұрын
@@clash8227 well the game is American so it's definitely a russia problem
@Sloppenheimer77616 күн бұрын
One thing I've noticed about the campaign is that Adler and Marshall say "it's up to you" multiple times. Maybe this is the equivalent of "We've got a job to do"
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
That’s a amazing catch I didn’t notice! Thank you for that piece of info I’ll look into it!
@OscarDirlwood16 күн бұрын
"would you kindly?"
@arktisch-humorgaming899316 күн бұрын
BioShock
@lelul357516 күн бұрын
A man chooses. A slaves obeys.
@nayeembinreza526615 күн бұрын
I feel that too
@IMGNFUN16 күн бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if the ending of Bell being shot was just a hallucination of his mind trying to fight off Adler's control one last time before his mind got wiped, again.
@gitupmechavvy256914 күн бұрын
I’d believe this, like in the mission where we enter Janes mine she has to keep fighting to regain control but at the end of Cold War Adler wins and kills our free will or like you said memory. Adler “killed” what was left mentally of Bell
@roonicous225614 күн бұрын
The end of black ops Cold War is the safe house in black ops 6 so it definitely makes sense.
@cryamistellimek918414 күн бұрын
@@roonicous2256It’s not but go off. The ending takes place in Alaska. The safe house in Bo6 is in Bulgaria
@jacobqixel4578Күн бұрын
No, cause in bo6 zombies when Adler gets a headshot he says “Can I call you Bell?”
@rogue_lightКүн бұрын
@@jacobqixel4578and Tank Dempsey saying "Player, drop the chips and get me some ammo" doesn't specifically mean the player is in fact eating chips. The bell voice line could just be a joke about the end of cold war and not a specific confirmation
@Nett1116 күн бұрын
Close enough welcome back Gaz is Ghost 2009 conspiracy videos
@nickysimi986616 күн бұрын
Even though he's clearly not, I can't blame ppl for thinking that when they are both voiced by the same guy
@Gandalfthegoldenbird16 күн бұрын
a fellow old man in the chat i see lmfao
@027maino16 күн бұрын
Gaz died in cod mw 1
@MRBIGBACK6942016 күн бұрын
@@027mainothat’s why he said 2009/mw2
@Catgroove9215 күн бұрын
Bell and Case have the same VA
@OddyNuffdaSnowLeopard80816 күн бұрын
Fun fact, in the house, if you go to Felix's room, you can find a note where he talks about Case yelling in his sleep
@baroncross306015 күн бұрын
That's because he went thru some scary ish in the emergence mission. Anyone would be yelling in their sleep after seeing Zombies, Manglers, Monsters, and creeping mannequins in hallucinations lol
@ChadHellgado15 күн бұрын
@@baroncross3060 I think he said that Case was already yelling in his sleep but that mission just made it even worse
@OPFOR_ANIMATIONS14 күн бұрын
@@ChadHellgadoNo, it was after the mission
@joejones515714 күн бұрын
I think the note mentions that they've gotten worse after that mission, and that it's confusing as Case is normally so laid back and chill
@heyyou947212 күн бұрын
@@ChadHellgadoNo, it was after. The note appears right after, and Felix worries that Case's "unpredictable and volatile emotional outbursts" or something along those lines could compromise them. Just by the wording alone, I think they were also gonna kill them if it went wrong and Case/Bell went effectively feral. Nothing good comes of someone who's been ripped of their identity and made into a puppet.
@b3n58316 күн бұрын
Even Inkslasher elaborated on this. After shooting Bell to register him “dead”, Adler brought him to the Advanced Technologies and Applications. From there, scientists (including Adler himself) introduced The Cradle to Bell. Bell becomes unstable, but eventually pacified. ATA and Adler give him a new identity… again. William “Case One” Colderon. It could also be implied that Sims and Park also took part in this too, hence why they also pretend they don’t know him.
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Yes we both conversed about this theory quite a bit
@TOXICYT201616 күн бұрын
case was involved between 80-81 bell was with adler in 81 and bell was working with the Russians the whole time so say if case was bell wouldnt make sense plus wouldnt everyone knows case is bell? once he talks ppl would know and his body mass like bell could be 6foot 180 and case could be 6'2 215 i think there 2 different ppl plus case real name is William Calderón which calderion is spanish and sefardi origin bell was Russian
@kpopfan810916 күн бұрын
0:02 @@TOXICYT2016first of even if sims or park or troy knew why would they jeopardize everything by giving hints and why would they even give hints they would obviously pretend to the end that they don't know just like how they did with bell everybody apart from mason woods and lazar knew that bell was part of Perseus but they pretended not to know so why wouldn't they do the same with case if case is bell secondly William is obviously not his real name do you think it would make sense for the scientists to use his real name just so that later by searching about case real name not only the scientists but even case would have been tracked down by cia hence ruining there experiments obviously cases name William is fake just like bell was a fake name there could also be a possiblity that if case really was bell then Adler would have obviously given him this name Thirdly they might know cases body mass but how would they know bells body mass they didn't spend too much time with bell so your theory doesn't make sense and even if they did knew bells body mass alongside cases that still doesn't change anything someone's body mass alone cannot determine who he is there are literally billion ppl in this world there also could be a possiblity that one could either have a similar body mass to another or not so like I said doesn't really prove anything
@TOXICYT201616 күн бұрын
@kpopfan8109 ok, what ever u say, bud if u being real there not the same person and also if u google case on the cod wiki stats it's william "case" calderon but u never mentioned the last name the last name is Spanish origin bell was Russian right? Why would a Russian have a Spanish last name 🤔
@TOXICYT201616 күн бұрын
@@kpopfan8109 and Case aint his real name either they call him case bc he was case one in the testing
@romulus961116 күн бұрын
I just think its super weird that both Bell and Case see Zombies during the campaign while going through their respective hallucinations
@solidsnook864011 күн бұрын
Eh not that odd I guess. Other than the usual reusing assets cleverly, both seeing zombies during their hallucinations is a fun way to explain how the effects of the drugs they are under, like it's clear on what the goals of the drugs are when it's inducing a state of mania, hence the zombies and the players feeling hunted and attacked.
@NiCoNiCoNiCola11 күн бұрын
Bell's one was an Easter Egg tho?
@solidsnook864011 күн бұрын
@NiCoNiCoNiCola it's weird cause technically it's both. Bell could have hallucinated zombies due to the drugs but Adler can reset him to the path he wants after Bell succumbs to them.
@ethanhamilton4596 күн бұрын
What if there related
@BurgerLandLord16 күн бұрын
This is what I like about the Black Ops series. Nothing is as cut and dry as the MW series when it comes to telling a story. The game will not tell you outright what is true. It's even willing to lie to the player, 'The Truth Lies.'
@danboy1234216 күн бұрын
Yeah but 3 took it to far
@chromtastic209216 күн бұрын
@@danboy123423 actually had a good story it’s just that they didn’t have enough time to properly explain everything they wanted
@LoganGrimmnar16 күн бұрын
@@danboy12342 nah, 3 was amazing
@danboy1234216 күн бұрын
@@chromtastic2092 oh yes absolutely what I mean is it went to far into the grey, so much so they had to tell fans outside of the game
@RuziNuk315 күн бұрын
@@chromtastic2092 3 was disgusting
@bruh_heheheha16 күн бұрын
2020s: Bell is Stone 2024: Case is Bell😂
@raiderparty456516 күн бұрын
Who is also stone
@nguyenhaiong720916 күн бұрын
Who's Stone tho?
@jakejohnson71816 күн бұрын
@@nguyenhaiong7209multiplayer character in cold war, who wasn't plot relevant in the slightest
@combatarmzfreak116 күн бұрын
@@jakejohnson718 He shares the same model as (Male) Bell.
@Jusstjay15 күн бұрын
This is getting tiring tbh
@felocie926215 күн бұрын
This could be nothing but the two names are Case and Bell. Now when I read the title “Case is Bell”, I thought Cassius Belli, a Latin term meaning “time for war”. Both Case and Bell are only really activated in times of war. Could be a complete coincidence but cool nonetheless
@spiritwolf579212 күн бұрын
*casus belli, but great comment. :3 It is cool, whether coincidence or not.
@DarkGnome-gf1zz11 күн бұрын
I'm choosing to believe they are the same people just because of this comment
@crazydoodle11 күн бұрын
but casus belli means cause of war, not time of war, is there a schizo theory for this too?
@10milfud11 күн бұрын
brother how fucking high are you ?
@Boingoloide11 күн бұрын
@@DarkGnome-gf1zz that would be genius
@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim100416 күн бұрын
PLOT TWIST: Case is still alive but he has lost his memory so he decided to become an obese twitch streamer known as Caseoh
@mynameblaZe16 күн бұрын
lol
@OfficialSalzu16 күн бұрын
Oh 😮
@ZaneViscor16 күн бұрын
what is that profile picture يسطا
@thememeking807916 күн бұрын
How Caseoh would be over 80 years old
@CaH.u16 күн бұрын
Caseoh fans trying to be funny:
@AFlyingEwok16 күн бұрын
I'm honestly a bit surprised that you'd watch that cutscene over and over but then not even mention how the last monster of the drug trip is literally Adler.
@endergamer62616 күн бұрын
Which monster the executive director?
@slavic_slav132016 күн бұрын
What monster?
@Theenderslayer69ttv16 күн бұрын
@@slavic_slav1320 the deciple at the end of emergance
@UniqueUsername115 күн бұрын
@@Theenderslayer69ttv i never noticed that. how was it adler
@AFlyingEwok15 күн бұрын
@@UniqueUsername1Look at his head. He's wearing sunglasses.
@robertf.atrozskin359616 күн бұрын
I will note that case has visions of "frank woods (as a mob) chasing him" and one of the bosses "the director" looks like adler.
@andrewnguyen223415 күн бұрын
Which one? All the directors of that emergence mission look like zombies
@robertf.atrozskin359615 күн бұрын
@@andrewnguyen2234 the red mannequin, before he turns into the warden
@razzle230213 күн бұрын
During emergence a lot of the zombies will flicker between zombies and one of the story characters, so not much special there. The final boss is Adler though
@Jack2the7ripper16 күн бұрын
A small note, take this with a grain of salt: during Bell's MK-Ultra there is a rathole you can go into and encounter Zombies, Case when exposed to the cradle sees not just zombies but Mimic, Manglers, Abomination, and Deciples which I found weird like: How the bloody h*** does Case know what these things are and Vice versa with Bell since zombies weren't a popular thing especially with glowing eyes. Follow me for a second: Campaign and Zombies are canon to one another, right? On the map Firebase Z, there is a conversation that Aetherium can affect one's mind (followed by side effects). Now I'm just shooting in the dark here what if MK-Ultra had some form of aetherium in it, So when in this theory Bell/Case was exposed to the Cradle which had a more potent Aetherium in it's mixture. From Bell's MK-Ultra brainwashing would give him a resistance to the negative effects from Cradle, which would explain how he was the ONLY successful trial. Think of it like that one guy in real life who exposed himself to snake venom and built up a resistance to it, but in this case Aetherium for Bell/Case. I could be looking into this the wrong way but it's just my two minute paragraph.
@cloudnein811415 күн бұрын
No
@peteniss14 күн бұрын
Hell yeah
@meatbeatmania14 күн бұрын
Campaign and zombies are most certainly not canon in the slightest
@johnrigdon976714 күн бұрын
Actually the ending of Black ops 4 zombies solidified all call of duty games from that point on starting only with the Black ops timeline in the modern warfare timeline the infinite warfare all those are in the same universe just a different time points and zombies lore Is also 100% canon that's why CPT price was in black ops cold war well CPT price father also another thing to add to this to events of the modern warfare stories were meant to be like the old ones on purpose and ig soap is uncle Ben bc he will always die @@meatbeatmania
@meatbeatmania14 күн бұрын
@johnrigdon9767 there's not a single thing that has said the zombies is canon to the campaign just because it uses characters from the single player doesnt make it canon i mean hell if it was they'd sure as shit be bringing it up at least once during the story kinda hard not to talk about seeing the undead and horrors beyond man's comprehension
@bobbysonneborn952815 күн бұрын
I feel like the fact that the final mission in cold war takes place on march 15th aka the ides of march has some significance, because bell was betrayed by adler like how caesar was betrayed by the senate
@IceBurgZ15 күн бұрын
Great catch I never put that together
@bluesnake171316 күн бұрын
One thing is for sure, they're both dangerous.
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Very much so!
@devinthierault16 күн бұрын
More than Steven Seagal
@draki447311 күн бұрын
The ‘Neurological effect’ theory is a little bit taken out of context and not established . If you finished the whole game, you will find that the neurological effect is actually appeared when Case is going to do something ‘brutal’. For example, it happens when he is going to kill Harrow, Gusev or the guard who tried to stab him in the mission ‘High Roller‘.. .When Case heard ‘Pantheon’ or ‘Cardle’ , he got the effect because Case was a tester of the Cardle project and he knew Pantheon. So it is just some kind of ‘Memory comes back’ but not becuase the order of Alder.
@jacebaker46257 күн бұрын
And Case was brainwashed to not speak about what Pantheon did to him and how he was a subject of the experiments
@StargazerKite16 күн бұрын
Honestly, my main issue with this theory is that it requires a lot of the returning characters from cold war to either be willing to play along with Adler still brainwashing Case/Bell or somehow not recognize him when they served with him as Bell. The most agregious one to me being Park, who's only alive because Bell saved her over Lazar when they were in Cuba. It's not impossible or anything, but it feels wrong that even she'd turn a blind eye to Adler still brainwashing Case/Bell when he was the one who saved her life.
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Case wore a mask and goggles the entire team he was with park but I agree it is a hole in the theory
@GrainOnTheGo16 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZthe biggest issue here is the casino mission. Literally everyone would’ve seen Case’s face.
@chuckyzrevenge16 күн бұрын
@@GrainOnTheGowasnt case doing his own “stealth” mission during that tho?
@GrainOnTheGo16 күн бұрын
@@chuckyzrevenge he gets seen by all members of the mission... literally all of them see Case.
@chuckyzrevenge16 күн бұрын
@@GrainOnTheGo with a mask on tho…right?
@GodnJeasus11 күн бұрын
In CW after Adler says “sims and I always wanted you to be cia, didn’t take to much convincing” he explains how they used bell’s cryptography skills to access information, and in BO6 you are doing cryptography puzzles to access terminals
@aDarkLlama15 күн бұрын
What about Woods and Park? They both seemed more or less friendly, like Case was an acquaintance and a fondly respected colleague. There’s no weird dynamic or treatment, they definitely treated Bell way differently.
@Patrick_1209 күн бұрын
True, although CW is directly after his brainwashing whereas BO6 is 10 years down the line and after Bell had saved the world by telling them about the location of Perseus’ nuclear launch site. Maybe they’ve grown to trust him by this point
@thesmithmemes3739 күн бұрын
That would make sense as if they saw him prove useful and loyal to them, they would be far more comfortable.
@DarkhalfBreed17 сағат бұрын
Yeah Woods, Park, and Sims would have said something. I mean they worked with him, Woods talks to him like he doesn't really know Mason; Park or Sims didn't greet him like they haven't seen him like they did Adler either. Also I feel like Case is closer to Marshall and Sav's ages too.
@vette114 сағат бұрын
but then again cases face is always covered theres no actual way to see it just like cold war @DarkhalfBreed
@Z-KillerEdits16 күн бұрын
I’ve seen so much people trying to say it’s mason but they seem to either forget or don’t even know that mason died like 8-9 years after bell was shot by Adler and case popped up and was tested on that same year bell was shot so the timeline doesn’t add up for mason.
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Yea and mason was accounted for when case was being experimented on like we have files stating he was on xyz missions
@Z-KillerEdits16 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZ guess the only thing that fights this theory is the fact that no one reacts to case as they know him so maybe dlc or next game will tell us what happened or new information.
@offensivepepe2313 күн бұрын
Mason is alive in BO2, I think they have been making this game take place before that story line
@DarkhalfBreed17 сағат бұрын
Also if it was Mason, how the hell does Woofs not see its Mason?
@DarkhalfBreed17 сағат бұрын
@@offensivepepe231they haven't said anything conclusive about whether Mason is "dead" or dead. The most they said is that he is "assumed dead" in BO6 which could go either way.
@grayfoxx410 күн бұрын
2:56 Case gets the same effect when killing Harrow. It isn't because of Adler, it's because the Cradle makes him violent and unstable.
@Akuma_no_masutaКүн бұрын
Yeah the Cradle act like the number with Mason. Reznov program Mason to kill Steiner, Dragovich and Kravchenko. But in BO2, Kravchenko isn't death and Mason need to control himself to not kill him. Case got something similar. Harrow and the doctor works on the Cradle, so Case kill them for not let some people feel the same effect than him
@gigaguy20016 күн бұрын
This makes a lot of sense to me just based on the fact that, throughout the campaign, Adler never really questions Case’s origin or backstory. It’s entirely possible that he always knew about the Cradle testing on Case due to him working at ATA, but Adler would still doubt his allegiances and morals, unless he had witnessed Case’s reasoning first-hand despite brainwashing (end of Cold War). Because we all know that Adler is living paranoia. Might be the same case with Woods, because from what I remember, Woods wasn’t aware of Bell’s origin until the final mission, but he’d have to be of Case’s. I believe at the very least, Marshall, Harrow and Livingston would all know, which is why Case isn’t in the debriefing cutscenes for the first mission or really any others.
@lokiodinson596815 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@gigaguy20011 күн бұрын
I just realized that, while the dialogue options between Case and Adler are few, there doesn’t seem to be anything repeating conversations between Bell and Adler from Cold War (asking about his background, the scar, etc). There are two issues with using this as evidence though. One that stuck out a little was the option about Woods taking a leap of faith with Adler, but that’s likely in reference of Adler being marked as the mole for Menendez, not Case being wary of Adler. When discussing Pantheon, Adler brings up Hudson and said he didn’t know if Case had worked with Hudson. While I don’t think Bell operated in the field with Hudson, probably due to him not trusting Bell, Bell would have still known Hudson, so this is strange phrasing if Case is Bell.
@rockmycd131910 күн бұрын
He didn’t know about the cradle and the only reason he trusts case is because he along with sev and troy broke him out of the cia black site
@maybetomorrownewmaker16 күн бұрын
I was waiting for a theory like this. It felt like they were setting up something like this but didn't have time to flesh the story out. I found it so weird how we were just introduced to new characters like Cass and other main characters in BO6 with no backstory, and I was waiting for them to reveal Marshall and compsny wasn't real and that everything was in Case's head or something. But the story never went there or did anything with Case's backstory as a test subject until the last moment of the game which was a bit disapointing. We didn't even get an "evil" ending like with BOCW (I was thinking the entire time that the CIA are not the good guys and was waiting for the option to join Pantheon lol)
@pizzaparker__007216 күн бұрын
same lol. I joined hands with the bad guys in cold war and I wouldve liked to join pantheon here. Kind of a bummer, tbh
@SouperWy16 күн бұрын
I think Case’s story isn’t over yet. I’ve heard a few rumors that the next COD will be another Black Ops, so we might see more of Case.
@KingKairuku16 күн бұрын
Maybe. Case was exposed to the Cradle at the end a lot more than the diluted, early iteration that he had first taken. This “final” strain made people way more aggressive, hence why the only option in the end was to kill Harrow (as far as I know). We also don’t see Case in the last part of the campaign, and he was literally locked in a crashed helicopter that was burning and slowly filling with water. Basically, he’s dead, but the team we see in BO6 will probably return once or twice.
@andrielrivera194615 күн бұрын
I think Bell and Case are brothers because when you play Hunting Season mission in Bo6 and open the 4 pin lock box, each of the box has a audio log and they talk about two brothers being experimented
@NicholasOlander-t4c15 күн бұрын
Interesting theory but didn’t one of the brother kill the other
@Johnny_Silverhand015 күн бұрын
@@NicholasOlander-t4cAfter he killed his brother he killed himself if u listen to all of them
@andrielrivera194615 күн бұрын
@@Johnny_Silverhand0 interesting now I’m thinking who the hell was the two brothers and what was the point of BO6 putting those audio log in the game
@Umbrex34914 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Bell was Russian and Case is American.
@S1ipr9110 күн бұрын
@@Umbrex349and it’s also a storyline full of Lise and misdirection
@xXxHnTxXx916 күн бұрын
The problem with that theory is that neither Woods nor Park nor Sims do not recognise case as bell. And they know him as they worked with him in cold war
@misfit702416 күн бұрын
But Sims is skeptical of him though
@xXxHnTxXx916 күн бұрын
@misfit7024 he is also skeptical on Adler
@darkleonidas39514 күн бұрын
They, never see his face. Hell we don't even see the Cases face. I think he wears some sort of mask the entire time.
@xXxHnTxXx914 күн бұрын
@@darkleonidas395 that's a long shot. Do you believe that someone who spends private time with someone will never remove a mask? Also we dont se case at all. Even in cutscenes he is not visible. Also on the last mission if you use rcxd you won't see case
@irrelevanttroll331211 күн бұрын
@@xXxHnTxXx9bs lol he's like ghost nothing more provide actual debunj
@sudarshanprabhu583716 күн бұрын
Also one pattern I see with cod bo games protogainist names are in alphabetical letters like BO1-A for Alex BO CW-B for Bell ,BO6-C for Case,BO2-D for David
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Very interesting! I didn’t catch that
@kayagorzan16 күн бұрын
Wow I’ve never looked at it that way
@GoPackGo173316 күн бұрын
This is cute but falls apart because of Bo3. John Taylor dkesnt quite work but it is fun.
@kayagorzan16 күн бұрын
@@GoPackGo1733I thought we were just a nameless dude in BO3, cuz we can customize him
@GoPackGo173316 күн бұрын
@@kayagorzan The canon of the bo3 timeline is that the person we play as (player) is only actually in the first 2 missions as they die from injuries. The rest of the story is reliving the memories of John Taylor. With talor being us (player) in the story and taylor being Stone who is never seen in game but the scrolling messages at the start of every mission tell us this info. So the player DOES exist, although we only play as them for a short period of time. Basically its all a dream recounting taylors irl memories.
@TheOlManJenks16 күн бұрын
I've always thought the gun Adler shoots Bell with looks like the tranq gun used in "Another Brick in the Wall". No one ever brings that up but I've had this opinion since CW came out.
@jasonrapp520916 күн бұрын
It’s not it’s his silenced 1911 if you go onto his CW operator you can see it’s animated on his kit which is also the same outfit from the end of the game
@jasonrapp520916 күн бұрын
Correction it’s not silenced but it’s a 1911 all the same side note rewatching the scene he motions to pull it from his holster but if you look under the flap and sticking out the back you can see the grip and top of the slide of another 1911 still in holster (it’s a animating error not a two guns theory to be clear)
@rockmycd131910 күн бұрын
What???? Literally just schizo
@Arc_angelgabriel6 күн бұрын
Now that you mention it it dose!
@shawdawg36755 күн бұрын
People ask why Woods and Park wouldnt recoginize Case? After Adler "shoots" him and he disappears, plastic surgery and new names are possible.
@sirhams312816 күн бұрын
i may be wrong here but i thought Adler says "We've got a job to do" but Case didn't react at all. side note now i have to play the story again and see
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Doesn’t sound like a disappointing outcome to have to play cod more lol
@DireLizard16 күн бұрын
Also, what is weird (probably a coincidence) that almost every time Case gets into the serious mission, he prefers Russian weaponry. Example: AS VAL in bunker sequence in America, AK/SVD combo in Raid mission, e.t.c. Maybe he is more familiar with it, since he was a soviet agent(muscle memory and all that)?
@alivape16 күн бұрын
I interpreted the AS VAL in Bunker as making it look like the Russians raided it
@rio_underscore16 күн бұрын
I think it was just so the player would use all the guns
@gamerguy699015 күн бұрын
I doubt that the wepons hold much significance. Janes parents both had Makarov pistols and I’d doubt CIA agents have any Russian oriented or favored armaments.
@mcbamm568315 күн бұрын
@@gamerguy6990is it not implied that they were Russian double agents?
@gaclav44915 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 nuh uh
@akanselim988516 күн бұрын
Same effect also occurs near the end of the final mission, after Marshall tells Case to go capture Harrow.
@youtubehandle-u2l16 күн бұрын
im so confused as to why people would think they would just keep a known former soviet soldier who remembers his memories (and potentially acts on them), especially adler. The campaign says “Case volunteered for the trials”, Case has been a CIA assassin for years, and hes had the same callsign since he first started. Doesnt anyone think its simpler to recruit a civilian and MK ultra them instead of shooting a russian soldier and keeping them AGAIN. Adler wouldve realized their conditioning was broken and then again, itd be a risk to brainwash them AGAIN knowing they already remembered what was done, and the Perseus thing was done, bell was a loose end.
@Dwagonier13 күн бұрын
Training a soldier for special forces isn't easily replaceable for tier 1 assets, even irl. They are not easily replaced so in game logic for what bell and case is capable of, that's not easy to make someone else trained up to that extent especially with all his background on kgb training.
@samventurer3758 күн бұрын
The reason Case loses control on the guy next to the plane engine is because the cradle is designed to make people violent and murderous. Case was a special case (pun intended) in that the cradle had a different effect on him. It is said multiple times the reason he can fight the way he does is solely because of the cradle and assassination training he received with the cradle exposure. However he was exposed to the cradle again when he reentered the facility. This additional uncontrolled dose is what led to his loss of control over himself when presented an opportunity for violence. This is also when he began hearing another voice in his head. Further showing how much that does affected him. You see this again on the final mission when he received another dose and attacked Harrow like a rabid animal. Something that suppors your theory though is the fact that you can read text in the bunker that is "translated from Russian". Which means Case somehow knows russian. What adds to this is that none of the other characters ever acknowledge this trait probably because that trait is a link to his first personality of a russian.
@cloudnein81142 күн бұрын
Nice find 🔥
@beautyofthebonfire5 күн бұрын
This would definitely make our connection to bell a whole lot more interesting and deep. When I got a feeling that a bell reveal would happen I actually felt joy. I waited for any mention of bell from anyone in the game, especially Adler but nothing. I hope, this theory holds water cause being a consistent character in Cod would be dope, maybe even eventually flesh him out as an actual protagonist in future games. One can only hope
@jamariobrown-tolliver816316 күн бұрын
Raven already stated that bell was killed by Adler plus Bell is a custom character who never mattered where Case is a silent main character
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
They also said mason died and it’s evident he didnt
@bonelessduck898616 күн бұрын
If you're mentioning the BO6 ending, that would be Case the crimson operator. @@IceBurgZ
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
@bonelessduck8986 no I mean literally the footage they show repeatedly for masons death is the shot in the leg footage not the hole in the head footage
@panz3rwolf-gg16 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZthey did use the footage of Mason being shot in the leg but they already did state Mason being shot in the head was the cannon ending I don't think they ment to use that footage to be honest and bell is definitely dead he/she was a Soviet agent that worked for perseus and Adler just needed to know where perseus was after that bell was of no use i thought the same thing I thought bell might have been case but their not sadly
@endergamer62616 күн бұрын
Yes but what if they were lying this game has been in the works since Cold War came out and if they knew what the story would be. Plus if you look at the scene where Adler “kills” Bell he doesn’t even shoot him in the head the gun is pointed more down.
@notExTaZzY16 күн бұрын
Maybe they planned this years ago and that s why the protagonist isn't voiced in both CW and BO6
@bigbonk359116 күн бұрын
In the emergence mission in bo6, case is called case one by the scientist, don't forget case was one of the people that were meant to be the super soldier. in the story you can hear that they said they treated case with the cradle for him to be the super soldier, he also gets the dizzy effect whatever it is when he hears pantheon and cradle since the scientist said case can't ever talk of the pantheon or cradle
@VanaheimRanger16 күн бұрын
This theory has the same major plot hole it has in InkSlasher's video: There are at least 3 characters in the BO6 story who knew Bell in CW, so they know what he looks like, he would have needed extensive plastic surgery for this theory to work.
@SainiRohan16 күн бұрын
Park doesn’t even see Case, as seen by the black mask he wears. So that’s 1. But the other two, I don’t know.
@VanaheimRanger16 күн бұрын
@SainiRohan I seriously doubt he wears a mask at the hideout with Woods.
@SainiRohan16 күн бұрын
@@VanaheimRangeryeah I don’t think so either. I was more so talking about Park. Sims did seem to be upset though, about Adler having his own way of doing things, and giving Case a warning.
@williamcranmore406915 күн бұрын
Other than the face, Park would have heard his voice when he calls for air strikes and talks
@SainiRohan15 күн бұрын
@@williamcranmore4069 I know I’m reaching but bell was one operative, there for like 5 months, in 1981. Assuming she has done multiple operations since then, I wouldn’t be surprised if she forgot, or if she was told he was closed off by Adler.
@skxlter574716 күн бұрын
Something tells me that Jane is still alive. We never see her die the screen just goes dark, and we're not entirely sure that she's confirmed dead, they can ve keeping her alive because, as case was beating her up, she's begging him to stop that the good side of her has prevailed over her evil traumatic side. I feel as if Jane will be getting the Bell treatment to keep her in line permanently and she'll be helping Marshall's team to takedown the new pantheon head.
@redwiltshire181616 күн бұрын
They are under water she ain’t making it out of that alive also the fact she has a chemical weapon jammed into her head
@thamolus16 күн бұрын
I like your theory but its weird that Adler,Sims and Park dont acknowldge case as bell they fought together against Perseus and then ten years later after adler shot bell and let him be brainwashed again and then work with him again without being sus and acting like he is a different person is weird to me. I hope that we get anwsers in the seasonal content just like in cold war
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Very true I’m hoping we get more info
@tommcmahon1416 күн бұрын
Probably because sims park and Adler were in on it all and are aware of what happened??
@silverback195316 күн бұрын
They never see cases face And he’s silent so Maybe they didn’t notice because of that
@thamolus16 күн бұрын
@silverback1953 thats what i thought he has a mask on in haunting season and probably a mask and hoodie in high roller but he probably has no mask in the rook and at the gala mission because in the rook there are only his friends and at the gala they wouldnt let him have a mask at the gala maybe he had one when he Changes clothes but adler was at the rook after the mission its weird
@AFlyingEwok16 күн бұрын
You're forgetting about Woods which makes this whole thing unravel. I doubt that he'd just shrug it off, especially after Panama. Case also got a radio to call in airstrikes meaning Park would've heard him speak.
@Sincere4Games14 күн бұрын
5:30 Steve Rogers.
@somechilldude272710 күн бұрын
Funny
@Bigbrollicblackdudenamedrequis2 күн бұрын
This really makes you wonder who is the real villain of the game. Is it the Pantheon, or is it Russel Adler?
@GF88gaming15 күн бұрын
So nice to see lady Park again.
@HipsterKhan15 күн бұрын
if there are no cliffs on the island, the final scene might be psychological fight taking place in Bell's brain: the fight between his conscious personality and that of Adler's brainwashing implant. It's what happens to Tyler Durden in Fight Club.
@Valentynee16 күн бұрын
i don't think they are the same person, there's a lot of evidence pointing to them not being the same, i think the reason case is so eager to kill the guy after Adler told him to is because the cradle just makes people violent but case can somewhat control it so at that time hes just being influenced by the cradle to kill and not because Adler told him to, i do however agree that bell is not dead and he most likely regained his memories and is now being held in a prison somewhere, im pretty sure there is dialogue somewhere in the campain where they say case has told people to just call him case, i think its because deep down he knows william is not his real name because they always called him case one in the labs, after they altered his memory to not remember the experiences and his past his subconscious prefers they call him case since its a more familiar sounding name to him.
@stevencurtis86 күн бұрын
Its possible adler shooting bell is a hallucination of some sort because case was seeing zombies and shit
@FlakFactory16 күн бұрын
idk it looks like adler shoot bells head and just the idea of them brainwashing someone brain twice and still being able to function even for cod doesnt seem to likely
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
I mean Adler was debrainwashed using no ultra after being brainwashed with the numbers so it’s possible
@1990hondacivic16 күн бұрын
That and when Adler shoots him, the angle looks like he shoots bell in the head before bell can aim on him, I doubt he’ll would survive 2 headshots and get brainwashed all over again, that’s a lot of gray matter and memory loss to be combat effective
@TOXICYT201616 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZ alder killed bell before the brain wash bell knew too much and could be a threat so is why alder killed him
@UniqueUsername115 күн бұрын
then again, the Cradle makes him a supersoldier, so maybe it can mend his brain a bit
@bedsidekhair366711 күн бұрын
This is why black ops will always have the best story telling
@dejountemurraythefutureg.o904016 күн бұрын
I feel like Woods would definitely know if Case is Bell considering Case does in fact interact with the characters via dialogue options, so idk I doubt it’s him at all. Woods would RAISE HELL about that
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Would he though? Considering it could trigger a relapse of a the original bell or would he be quiet and not mention it because of the risk
@AwesomeTiger10842 күн бұрын
But why would adler try to brainwash bell again because before you got shot as bell in cold war he literally said that you have to make another sacrifice and considering the fact that bell was able to get their memorys back from being a Russian soldier I don't think adler wouldn't want that same mistake happen again
@ethanreighley133616 күн бұрын
Case is Liquid Snake from Metal Gear Solid.
@johnprice627116 күн бұрын
See, THIS is how you set up a good character mystery. Give us a base line, add something unique but abnormal, add some obscure dialogue/lore, put in a couple of implications, and BAM!! A character that could have theory after theory as to who they are and what actually happened to them.
@Purplepentapus_16 күн бұрын
I noticed that the cliffside where Adler shoots Bell in CW looks suspiciously similar to the cliffside outcrop behind the safehouse in BO6. Its not quite identical, because there's no sign of the mansion in the CW scene, but I think it was intentional and just a slight retcon since they probably didnt plan it ahead
@InsertQuarterPlz4 күн бұрын
I dont know much about COD but.. wait until the multiplayer trailers go out.
@IceBurgZ4 күн бұрын
The game was already out when this video released
@jordanmagpiebullet797816 күн бұрын
Just sub and I’m loving it keep them coming your doing an amazing job also COOL name
@xandercogan55212 күн бұрын
I think it is as well but if it isn't then stone has to be bell now the reason I specifically think it is him is mainly because the way that he's portrayed is so similar to Bell I'm just everything about him gives me bell feels he even looks a lot like him in that one mission where you you know get to play in third person because when you look at him in the car in the mission in cold war they look very similar
@sleidenbraveheart708816 күн бұрын
Case having a neurological effect at 2:37 isn't because of Adler... Case's neurological effects often triggers when anything or anyone related to the cradle is said or present. In which case, the scientist Gusev at 2:37 is very much related to the cradle. So yeah... Adler really isn't the trigger.
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Then why didn’t it activate earlier?
@sleidenbraveheart708816 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZ Case has control over his aggression... because the cradle isn't brainwashing it's aggression triggering... Other "cases" is when with Case is with Harrows...
@sleidenbraveheart708816 күн бұрын
Because Case has a good control over his aggression... since the cradle is aggression inducing not brainwashing... and it has been said that Case is a special case with the cradle. Take Case and Harrow for example, Harrow is another person that revolves around the cradle.
@Bi9Clapper7 күн бұрын
Yeah i think so as well especially given the fact that they point point Adler worked at the lab but never elaborated past that. Feels like there was a lot they intentionally left out and that continues with the ending as well
@someguy234715 күн бұрын
Welcome to the badass mute characters, Case
@XLusiveshxtonly14 күн бұрын
yk what i like this theory so im going with this is canon now 😭😭
@mr._g_reyes38515 күн бұрын
I thought during the campaign that Adler would slip the name Bell for once when he was talking to you the player😂 Altho this was my though before I watch this video😊
@Elite_Alien-010 күн бұрын
At the base of operations in BO6 with the team I found what appeared to be the exact same cliff side at the end of Cold War
@MetalZeroOne9014 күн бұрын
I like this. Maybe future seasons will shed light on this theory.
@kpopfan810916 күн бұрын
I wholeheartedly believe bell is case it just makes sense you know timeline wise and story wise i do hope this theory actually turns out to be true i really want bell to be alive and case too hopefully he didnt die in the end Also love this video and lastly can I ask you something if you don't mind that is what is going to be the topic for your next video?
@zexohunto10 күн бұрын
Everybody really want deep down to see Bell come back and alive. I'm not sure if Adler point blank shot actually killed him since Bell has good reflexion
@silentshadow823515 күн бұрын
If bell is case. Adler would be dead. CW ending had a gunshot at the end. So if bell is case Adler should be dead. I doubt they would try to shoot each other then when they miss call it a day
@IceBurgZ15 күн бұрын
Unless as I explained in the video it was a implanted memory, considering there are no Cliffsides in solovetsky (where the last mission takes place) where was bell shot?
@The_oficial_faceless12 күн бұрын
I'm not kidding I got this as a short I watched the whole thing all 8 minutes
@IceBurgZ12 күн бұрын
Odd but thank you
@The_oficial_faceless3 күн бұрын
@IceBurgZ it was very good
@colterrobertson922116 күн бұрын
So i have a theory that the womans voice in Cases head IS Bell and its more like because of the experimentation Case "inherited" Bell or perhaps Bell is "Born again" by "The cradle" having Case and Bell merge minds essentially. Thats why alot of the monster's case sees bear a resemblance to Adler and why theres still a hint of brain washing from Adler bleeding over into Case
@ayobeemo811716 күн бұрын
The woman voice is cases head was Jane. No?
@sop191816 күн бұрын
At the end don’t the voices stop and you hear harrow saying: “I understand now, you don’t have to do this case”
@romulus961116 күн бұрын
@@sop1918No you hear both voices at the same time as you're killing her, the Cradle you're smashing over her head makes her personality shift while he's killing her
@romulus961116 күн бұрын
@@sop1918No you hear both voices at the same time as you're killing her, the Cradle you're smashing over her head makes her personality shift while he's killing her
@sop191815 күн бұрын
@ I watched it multiple times, at first the voice and her speak at the same time, after that the voice stops talking but she continues, without her mouth actually moving. In addition the voice sounds similar to the evil Harrow in the weird flashback mission
@the_big_ragu227311 күн бұрын
Saying Case is Bell is similar to the latin term, 'Casus Belli' which means, 'The Casualty of War.'
@1990hondacivic16 күн бұрын
If bell was case that would be reaching, Adler knows what case looks like, and in that were true then he’d recognize him, he also seems fond of case compared to be because he doesn’t fully trust bell in Cold War
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
True but why would Adler openly admit he knows case is bell if it may trigger a flashback or a break in the mind control
@1990hondacivic16 күн бұрын
@ I suppose, but the story with case is that he willingly tested for the brainwashing to become a super soldier for pantheon, why would Adler be in on it because he despises pantheon and wants to get rid of them? Case is basically an unknowing sleeper agent who gives them intel on what they’re doing to pantheon, it would make 0 sense for Adler to be involved with pantheon
@kpopfan810916 күн бұрын
Nah it's not reaching case being bell does make sense when you truly think about it and also adler was like that with bell as well and not just Adler others seemed fond of bell too and look what happened all of it ended up being fake so yea how do we know that all of the affection for case is not fake either? Cuz it very well may be
@1990hondacivic16 күн бұрын
@ no one was fond of bell, everyone was really suspicious and never really trusted them when going through dialogue options, the team with case actually seem to like case as a person, plus marshal really seems to trust him since they’ve had years of combat experience together so case was an early implant, it just canonically wouldn’t make sense with the time frame they’ve given
@kpopfan810916 күн бұрын
@@1990hondacivic umm I never said that they were fond of bell I said that it 'seemed' that they were fond of bell I also said that it turned out to be fake did you like not read my comment at all? I know that they were obviously acting which is why I said this before too that maybe the affection towards case is also not real if case is bell maybe they are acting with case too maybe troy didn't actually know case from before maybe troy is lying and pretending just like everyone else the thing is we don't really know if there affection this time is also real or not it does seem more genuine tho this time around just like you said it yourself but we still can't rule out the possiblity that it's all not a ruse and with Troy looking like he really trusts case maybe because that's just how troy wants it to look like or could be his personality too an easy going guy idk..man cold war really did give me trust issues I can't even trust anybodys words apart from woods🤷🤷🤷anyways I would still believe my theory of bell being case just because it makes the most sense to me obviously that doesn't mean it would make sense to everyone and I get that bell could very well not be case and I could be setting myself up for major disappointed but even so i will stick with this theory to the end.. we will know the truth eventually so let's wait and see
@BellyRoll2OP16 күн бұрын
They knew exactly what they were doing with that casting choice.
@warbrand216 күн бұрын
I thought Case is bell as well. Because lets face it Adler is the only one that dumb with callsign naming.
@imaspartan224715 күн бұрын
“Do not trust Adler, Adler is lying to you”
@yungboulder733816 күн бұрын
With how fast case can move even compared to multiplayer. He’s clearly a super soldier and not to mention regenerating health and armor from takedown. Also pretty sure he killed Jane Harrow’s parents. I think Adler shot him to erase his memories and he regenerated it. Weird but makes sense
@williamcranmore406915 күн бұрын
I don’t think Case would be military age when Jane’s parents were killed. Him and Jane would be closer in age
@douglacy5269Күн бұрын
Omg this would make sense cause in Cold War while you’re going thru one of those weird memories things that addler triggers there is entrance to a cave or something and addler tries to steer you away from it and if you go in you end up with just a pistol with a handful of rounds and zombies attack you until you die and reset you back to where you’re supposed to go I feel like this absolutely connects the story lines of bell and case as well since he was seeing zombies hallucinations I was wondering why they had that in there it didn’t make sense until now
@HarpDevCo16 күн бұрын
I love this theory
@Azarath4155 күн бұрын
Just to be sure, Case is the character we play as, right? The player? Or is that wrong? I barely made it to the Rook mission so idk anything yet
@IceBurgZ5 күн бұрын
Yes
@johntorreto448516 күн бұрын
As a side note, shouldn't Park, Sims and Woods be able to recognize or realize Case as Bell. And if so, wouldn't they object to this treatment of someone who proved themselves plus sacrificed it all and had their backs even after finding out the truth. Park Especially in certain choices in Cold War (MI6 background).
@UP51L16 күн бұрын
A bit of plastic surgery and supersoldier drugs.. hell, regular drugs alone could do a number on one’s appearance.
@johntorreto448516 күн бұрын
@UP51L I was thinking that, but it seems too convenient. Plus, the voice and certain ticks should tip them off like British Accent, Cryptography, Etc. Figured few things would still remain from Cold War to make them suspicious
@UP51L16 күн бұрын
@ we don’t really know any of Bell or Cases mannerisms nor how much is and isn’t lined in black ink. From the video, it seems Adler is essentially their case carrier. If he knows how to brainwash effectively, surely he can make a Brazilian out of a Norwegian.
@levitodf59926 сағат бұрын
Case one's situation is very diffrent from bells it seems clear that Case has extreme rage issues we see others infected with cradle beating each other to death within seconds of infection, its likely that Case has lesser symptoms but they are still present, he attempts to kill Harrow at the games climax and the "you can dispose of him now " is basically Adler letting the murder beast off the hook. They took Case and ran him through the same program they used on Harrow at the end of the game separating the part of case that is a loyal agent of the US and pushing it to the forefront pushing that beast down deep into his mind but its still there driving you to kill. My theory is that there are 3 cases inside your head, the rage monster that doesn't speak but blurs your vision and forces you to violence another voice which is your logical self that still hates cradle the US and pantheon for what they did to you and for just throwing you away, also stopping you from telling woods about Pantheon and the cradle right after Emergence because she knows that may empower the rage or worse pull them all together again, and then there's the loyal solider who willingly signed on to the experiment to save his country to be a hero. Adler absolutely knows this happened to Case and Bell may still be alive but I'm sure if Case was bell then Adler would have put another bullet into him on the spot, he is well aware bell is a ticking timebomb leading to a super terrorist that hates the US.
@TruthSeeker6991116 күн бұрын
Have you ever thought about having your own style for thumbnails rather than just copying Inkslasher?
@gavinmiller599116 күн бұрын
This makes so much sense! This is a great video. Thank you!
@redwiltshire181616 күн бұрын
Actually I thought this too it Adler knew his brainwashing isn’t perfect so he takes him to the lab he worked at and what do you know that lab just so happened to have the cradle
@jamiewilliams530931 минут бұрын
There's a lot of implication that Bell is in fact Case, but I think that's intentional. Nothing is confirmed, which leads to conjecture. One of the more subtle ones to it and one I like is the comparison's between himself and Caesar. "Casus Belli" and Case Bell. The fact Bell "allegedly" died on the same day as Caesar, which is March 15th. Just a couple of examples. Also this storyline is taking place in Dimension 2210 as a continuation of Cold War. For those that don't know, that's the 3rd zombies universe I'm pretty sure. The one that houses the Dark Aether Saga, Warzone (And by extension the Modern Warfare reboots) as well as Vanguard. This means that by the time of the campaign, Edward Richtofen would have became the director of Requiem and moved on to Project Janus. Also given the timeline, there's a chance Requiem "could" have picked up where ATA left off. One ended in 1981 and the other was founded in 1983. But that's a big "IF" the whole Bell/Case theory has anything to do with the Zombies storyline. Could bring up more questions about what "The Cradle" actually is. It'd also make you wonder back to "Scenario 17" (The zombies easter egg back in Vietnam) and how it's linked to things.
@kiddoge331116 күн бұрын
Wait so bell is cannonly a male?!
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
If my theory is correct yes
@GoPackGo173316 күн бұрын
@@IceBurgZidk though. I think that bell was just killed off because 3arch didnt want a custom character have plot relavence. Since you cant confirm anything about them sex/race etc. Meanwhile case is confirmed Male/Caucasian. Fun theory but even if it turns out true it doesnt really change much.❤
@shawdawg36755 күн бұрын
One thing I am interested is the voice Case hears, specifically the female voice. Is she a symptom of the Cradle or something they brainwashed him with to control him. Or was it a real person at the place that he had a real connection too.
@JajinTuck16 күн бұрын
can’t wait for this theory to go absolutely nowhere considering bell is dead 🙏
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
But is he?
@braylynnbartlett66216 күн бұрын
another detail that is really interesting is that if you don’t listen to adler in cold war interrogation and you go into the bunker a zombie will attack and kill bell. case sees the EXACT same zombies in black ops 6…
@IceBurgZ6 күн бұрын
Interesting!
@YT_DEMON2416 күн бұрын
I knew something was up with case
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
oh most definetly!
@allycatnaranjo896014 күн бұрын
Imagine none of these campaigns ever happened in the Black Ops universe Alex Mason is just sitting in a padded cell spacing out.
@IceBurgZ14 күн бұрын
That’s actually 90% similar to a scene from bo4
@allycatnaranjo896014 күн бұрын
@ I need to see that!
@allycatnaranjo896014 күн бұрын
@ Mason is just hallucinating on a wheelchair.
@NiCoNiCoNiCola11 күн бұрын
It's just Alex Mason sleeping in that bar at the start of BO1
@avelinonunez551016 күн бұрын
Or is it diddy
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
Not enough baby oil unfortunately
@BamBam-3886Күн бұрын
I support the theory that Case is Bell from Cold War. After Adler shoots Bell, he doesn't kill him but then sends him to be used for The Cradle project. Bell became Case One, the first test subject of The Cradle and survived the process and became the first "super soldier". Jane must've been there as well, took pity and wanted to "help" Bell. But then eventually, Bell loses it and goes berzerk but that might be due to that fact Bell might've had started seeing Adler OR dreamt of Adler killing him and that made Bell go berzerk and destroy the facility. Livingstone learned what happened and shut the program down, the workers and the patients. But because the docs and Pantheon saw the potential in Bell, they still "helped" him and wiped his memory clean of everything that happened: working with Perseus, used by Adler and destroying the facility. So by maybe using something similar to MK-Ultra, they wiped Bells memory clean and gave him a new one and new identity, Case and Case would be Pantheons first "sleeper agent" and Bell was giving to the Black Ops division and worked under Marshal and Harrow. When Case returned to the facility in Emergence, Case was exposed to The Cradle and during all that time, Bell came back and the Jane that "helped" him was back. After finding Marshal and Sevati, Case came back and had no memory of what happened but the voice was still there.
@Jakthecanadianidiot16 күн бұрын
Heres my theory: in 1981 bell is betrayed and captured, being experimented on in not just mk-ultra but also on the cradle, later bell is infected again and gets shot, he is re mind controlled as not just case, but he's also an undercover agent as harry stone to spy on the warsaw pact/crimson one, and i think he didnt die in the heljcopter crash at the end of BO6, i think that he survived and escaped the helicopter and swam to the surface to continue his uncercover job as stone. I get that it doesnt make sense but hey, its a good theory atleast.
@rio_underscore16 күн бұрын
Bell is not stone. Stone is British and has a whole other set of lore. They just shared models for that game to save money.
@Jakthecanadianidiot15 күн бұрын
@@rio_underscore i said it was a theory, and bell never talks, yes he was a soviet soldier, but that doesnt mean hes of russian descent, but thats your opinion. i think he is stone though.
@game0nnemisis7 күн бұрын
hey Icebergz! and i honestly full agree! I think Case is Bell like why would, volunteer yourself for an experiment just like that, it doesn't make sense... unless Case is Bell
@el_bamboo_third16 күн бұрын
Thats not the case
@IceBurgZ16 күн бұрын
I’m glad you commented this just in case
@Ali_playz8416 күн бұрын
The case must continue
@AllisterMacDonald1158 күн бұрын
Maybe that's why Adler only shoots the unarmed person late in the BO6 campaign if Case isn't looking, to avoid triggering Case to remember the implanted memory of Adler shooting Bell
@Leoyagami9615 күн бұрын
"Case is Bell" no matter the fact that Bell was a member of pegasus and Case was literally created by the C.I.A with the gas as a super soldier... It's literally the complete opposite of Bell, but yeah, COD fans are unable to put one and one together...
@IceBurgZ15 күн бұрын
Thanks, I can tell you didn’t watch the video! But thank you for the comment nonetheless
@creamygoodness444013 күн бұрын
As someone who mostly forgot about the Champaign for cold war, I already assumed I was playing the same person from the last game
@thegates-pearly16 күн бұрын
Im just happy that saving helen park was a canon event
@anza300716 күн бұрын
While this does make sense, I kind of hope Bell and Case are different characters. Hell I'd love to maybe see both characters meet one day or both appear as operators in game, if Bell really did survive the end of Cold War that is.