Shrike Missile Set up and Employment | DCS World F-4 Phantom

[@jontrout2010]

Shrikes main role was suppression of the SAM sites which they arguably achieved historically. Whether the Shrike is accurately modeled or not, is kind of a moot point imo as DCS SAM operators have no self preservation and keep on radiating even if they see an inbound ARM. Hopefully SAM AI gets a better suppression mechanic.

[@CasmoTV]

Agreed

[@mumblerinc.6660]

Skynet IADS makes SEAD both funnier and more realistic in DCS, but with the Shrike it makes it more effective as well since the SAMs actually do get suppressed even by missiles that miss.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

Hence the "Suppression" in SEAD. If it was "Destruction," the acronym would be "DEAD" 😅

[@nomennisceo6495]

@@Majima_Nowherewell DEAD is a thing too, it’s what most stand-off guided missiles are meant for

[@JiveDilletante]

Your combat ready series is my favourite way to lean a module. Thanks for doing these

[@Amerakee]

Jive spotted in the wild. Love your content man, been watching since the Shacktac days, always a treat when you end up releasing a solid DCS video.

[@JiveDilletante]

@@Amerakee you're too kind ♥️

[@johnmcguinness6310]

Different tones for different bands probably isn't for a specific purpose, it's probably because the audio tone is a product of the RF energy received, so different freq RF = different freq tone. The easiest/most simple ways to produce a tone that is 1:1 with the signal received would leave some component or derivative of the received frequency intact.

[@bwheatley1]

Thanks for building these out! :) Make sure you tell devil how to turn down the aural tone so he is not a sad panda anymore :)

[@therocinante3443]

Thanks for the videos Casmo! Tell you guys what, if you listen to the 10 percent true podcast, there's this F-4G/F-15E WSO named Starbaby who gives a phenomenal presentation about being in the back of one of those babies.

[@Majima_Nowhere]

I would highly recommend trying the A-4 mod, it's as high (or higher, honestly) quality as any paid module in the game. It's also easier to learn than the Phantom, if a bit less capable. My favorite thing is to load 9 rocket pods and crank down the firing interval to 0.3, for like 90 continuous seconds of rocket fire.

[@lilletrille8998]

You are awesone Casmo! I was looking for a shrike video (I love SEAD or Iron Hand as they called it back in the old days), Big THUMBS UP for this video!!!!

[@127Python]

Thanks for This Video Casmo ! It helped me a lot . As always your combat ready series is awesome !

[@pawel22ppw]

I would add 1 very important thing. Turn your FD on. It will show direction and angle on ADI, to help judge if launching parameters are good.

[@CasmoTV]

I think the ADI only works with the pre planned system but I could be wrong.

[@pawel22ppw]

@@CasmoTV Just checked. When FD is on, ADI needle is guiding you to wpnt, as soon as shrike sees something FD jumps to source of radiation with both needles. Works on direct.

[@CasmoTV]

@@pawel22ppw nice. I’ll have to check it out

[@cloudreaper_6583]

what's FD?

[@pawel22ppw]

@@cloudreaper_6583 It's flight director - 2 needles on your adi. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWGxaIRuasqbirs

[@PluckyUnderdog]

Excellent video. The Shrike makes SEAD unpredictable and very fun, if you use the Viper and the HTS pod I'd go as far as to say it's quite easy and almost predictable.

[@VonHoffnung]

Casmoooo at it again! Loving these vids dude. Appreciate it!

[@memerion]

Hey Casmo many thanks for this tutorial it's been a great help. The reference chart is very useful too, but what I found is that the MK-50 kit locks to SA-19 signatures. Thought I'd leave this here for anyone wondering if the Shrike can lock to those

[@tenToesUp747]

I sure do appreciate these videos bro!!! Thank you!

[@rysestormer9184]

The thing about the shrike is that they were very accurate for most radar systems. The issue with the "combat data" is that the sam sites shut down their radars which caused the missiles to miss. Another thing about the arm is that there was 2 different types of attack, loft where you dip check and send it out of the range of the sam or just jam it down their throat Also isn the nav ball supposed to have the ILS needles to line up to the target?

[@CasmoTV]

That’s in a certain mode I believe but I could be wrong.

[@offentho]

You need to activate the FD to get the needles

[@danielschneider8548]

Superb Videos. Love the concept and implementation

[@Redryder79]

When you picked up tone on that first SA8 at about 9:45 I noticed there was some radar screen return (noise?) That was centered on the scope. Was that related to the radar you were tracking?

[@scruffww3495]

The tone from the AGM-45 in game is NOT realistic. You are listening to the seeker head frequency reception. The director bars in the ADI will show the approx. angle of reception to the seeker head. Hope Heatblur will fix that later.

[@CasmoTV]

What is the source of this info? Not doing just curious cause idk either way

[@scruffww3495]

@@CasmoTV Well, lets just say "in my experience"...

[@dnsreload1909]

Someone knows the difference between SA-6 TR ans SA-6 SR, for the guidence kit of the shrike?

[@Happy-tp4jd]

Wow edit out my voice crack, I swear I'm done with puberty!

[@peterp4037]

Someone needs to make a video explaining which RF guidance unit are best depending on the sam system.

[@CasmoTV]

Or just read the chart I supplied in this video

[@joshburgin4379]

Casmo have you ever considered taking the harrier out for a spin? I feel like it could be an interesting choice for you with its role feeling somewhere between an Apache and a strike eagle. Plus, it has Sidearms for some incredible low level SEAD shenanigans

[@CasmoTV]

I literally have a harrier campaign series in my video catalog. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@joshburgin4379]

@@CasmoTV fair play - entirely on me for not checking out all your playlists. Definitely going to have a peek at that!

[@CasmoTV]

@joshburgin4379 I have a lot of videos lol it’s ok. I do like the harrier tho.

[@bwheatley1]

SEAD is my favorite role in the viper too so i'm excited to run the mission in the f4 while having to get alot closer then with harms lol

[@stewsaquarium1397]

Did the Wild Weasels use the Shrike missile? Was the HARM missile available during Desert Storm for the F4?

[@grizzly4736]

Great video. I do have a question for you Casmo or anyone that wants to answer, what are you using to be able to track the distance to target? I saw you kept looking down at the HSI and ADI, but what are you reading that gives you the distance?

[@mikeck4609]

Casmo, I apologize if you mentioned it, but how did you know the first SAM site was “eight miles” away? I saw you look down…does it show on the ADI if your in a certain mode? Also, the other guy was talking about the radar “not turning”…how can he tell?

[@CasmoTV]

Cause u put a waypoint on it and it’s my fly to

[@mikeck4609]

That’s some fighter pilot sh*t right there Casmo

[@arguy3297]

The guy was probably looking at the radar system with the camera controls.

[@pinkfloyd7572]

Good stuff. Thank you.

[@lluvik2450]

woah ive always wondered what the yellow triangle thing indicates

[@TheCraigHudson]

Is it possible or realistic to do an asymmetrical shrike seeker loadout like have 4 shrikes that can seek 4 different radars? Or is it have to be all the same for avionics reasons

[@CasmoTV]

CAnt see any reason not 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@sandman11]

Thank you!

[@gotanon9659]

Just in case anybody is interested in Phantom wild weasel SEAD 10 percent true podcast has a great EP on that

[@Dionysus2009]

In my testing I had a Shrike go after another F-4 I had flying around

[@CasmoTV]

Awkward

[@arguy3297]

Early fox 3 cheat code found?

[@McKronenberg]

Great Video!

[@phillperry487]

Pump those vids out mate!

[@mustezdcs6329]

I need 《combat ready》 for basically evey new mod now ....

[@qwerty85620]

Dude try Long range SAM

[@Happy-tp4jd]

if your talking SA-2, the key is to fly low. it can only track a couple hundred feet above ground. so fly low pop up

[@McKronenberg]

The German guys accent breaks my immersion 😂

[@Happy-tp4jd]

lol, new meme

[@mumblerinc.6660]

Exchange pilot!

[@FlyingFoxocube]

“Magnum again” Terrible comms, broke my immersion, 2/10 😂

[@RFPhantom]

Shrikes Were Really Trash Missiles . They Had Bot Enough Range , They Weren’t Fast Missiles and They Weren’t Accurate and If The Tracking Radar It Was Targeting Went Offline , Shrike Would Lose It Almost Immediately and Their Seekers Were Not Broad Band . Standard ARM Was Way Better Missile But It Was Heckin Expensive Compared to Shrike and It Required Some Major Modifications To The Aircraft ( in F-4 there would a Huge Dedicated Standard ARM Panel Added to WSO Center Console ) As Soon As HARMs Came To Be , Shrikes Were Used Less and Less ( Up To Desert Strom I Believe They Were Still Used In Very Limited Quantities Because They Were Significantly Cheaper Than HARM and Standard ARM ) Couple more things ( edited ) : The Launch Call Out for Shrike is NOT “Magnum” , It is “Shotgun” . And Launch Sequence of 4 Shrikes Onboard Is Not a Bug , it actually starts from Left Outboard Then Left Inboard and then it jumps to Right Inboard then right outboard.

[@CasmoTV]

Wonder why the launch sequence was so imbalanced

[@RFPhantom]

@@CasmoTV Gotta Ask MDD For That 😅 Even AGM-65 On LAU-88 Is Like That It Will Use All Of Left Inboard Mounted Mavs Before Switching to Right Inboard Mounted Mavs ( and You Cannot Force it To Jump Between Left and Right with Missile Reject Button 😅 unless you deselect Left Station )

[@Jafarnld]

I can’t keep up with your videos 😂

[@LeoH3L1]

Not getting any tone or anything with these.

[@CasmoTV]

Make sure you have the right seeker

[@risingphoenix7633]

Great video and tutorial 👍