Taiwan has a secret doomsday plan for China

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[@JTL1776]

American Air defense has proved itself time and time again. The sheer capacity of naval air defense and the systems across East Asia let alone the Increase of air defense systems accross allies near Chinese borders. Taiwan might not get obliterated.

[@weimorefun]

Taiwanese here! When I was a conscript in the Taiwanese Army 10 years ago my officer used to tell us about this plan, But we will never do this unless it's absolutely necessary !!! I wish peace upon Taiwan, China and the rest of the world~

[@markc6140]

Should Taiwan take this heinous step, Taiwan leaders will be annihilated totally without hesitation.

[@ronzac55]

i really hope China and Taiwan won't destroy each other, because it would be a lose lose. especially for the people of both countries.

[@andreilazar2800]

China is well aware of this treat and would let the Dam drain out before the Invasion

[@andreilazar2800]

​@@ronzac55If China will let the Dam drain out before the Invasion it would only destroy a the electric Energy suply wich the destruction of the Dam would Not cause signifikant Problems in electric Energy suply

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

Taiwan might not do so unless absolutely necessary, But if they get involved, and they would have no choice but to do so, then the US would do it BEFORE they do anything else! Why? Well it also stops China using their nuclear deterrence.

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[@potatoskunk5981]

The Plain Bagel has a good video on it.

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[@Hobbit_1023]

“And while people are not into politics, people are into survival…and when it comes to survival, nothing is contemptible.” …well said!

[@wuhaninstituteofvirology]

& when it comes to survival, mutually ensured destruction is the opposite of that

[@khaldrago911]

How secret is that plan if it’s on KZbin now?

[@Peizxcv]

Stop treading his exotic wisdom quote as some old adage. That quote is illogical as it equates not having national sovereignty to death and that’s clearly not the case. Beijing isn’t out to kill Taiwanese so if the choice is fight to the last Taiwanese for NATO or surrender and go home to family, the choice is obvious

[@Ar1AnX1x]

Shirvan Tzu

[@justindion4394]

He has some of the best quips.

[@sw1vel-kid536]

I’m glad I could find this 14 min video with over million views talking about Taiwan’a biggest SECRET

[@nyanyamero]

It's not really a "secret" that you think, it's more of a threat or a warning to china. Porcupine strategy is what Taiwan has been doing for decades now.

[@BV-fr8bf]

The USAF likely has a similar strategy!

[@hkfoo3333]

it is all bs.

[@abdusalamolamide]

It is all bullsh*t. It is something they can never ever do because they are the same people.

[@Ranchmountain]

It was probably a secret, at least people in Taiwan don’t want the other side to ever know anything about this. But thanks to Caspian report, it is now a public troll😂 Caspian report might be the biggest mouth on KZbin, I advise Taiwan to choose its ally wisely. Sometimes you gotta love the titles this channel come up with😅

[@ryanchris1048]

War is not determined by who is right, but who is left. Very profound indeed.

[@steampunk888]

You’re misquoting it. Listen again.

[@stardustandflames126]

Is it though? It's a pretty goofy pun

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

Shirvan was full of bangers in this one.

[@STFUGOOGLE420]

This is an old ass quote and not to mention cringy and try hard. Its nothing new and definitely nothing profound

[@red-vg2ds]

@@STFUGOOGLE420 🤓

[@LizardSpork]

It may not be useful in preventing an invasion but it might prove useful in persuading China not to use nukes should the invasion go poorly.

[@yurichtube1162]

China doesn't need to invade. It can shut down Taiwan's economy within a week, and cut them off from the rest of the world

[@eduwino151]

Taiwan can use the threat of rockets with dirty bombs hitting Chinese cities to deter an foolishness

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Yeah, war crimes are very persuasive

[@centrist3684]

So many reasons why this is a bad take. 1) China has a no first use policy on nukes 2) You don't need nukes to obliterated Taiwan, remember how the USA fire bombed Tokyo? We got better ones these days 3) A complete naval blockade would cripple the economy, where China can just shoot cargo ships and prevent export import 4) Invasion of Taiwan was never about destroying them, from reuniting them like East and West Germany Bottom line is, this "secret plan" would never work because it would never escalate to this level of hatred AND there's way better ways to cripple Taiwan. China will most likely just take a chapter from US's book with "economic sanctions" enforced by the military.

[@thoughttransmitter5555]

Stopping war through thought (i.e deterrence) isn’t a war crime. And in any case: If China were to use nuclear weapons against Taiwan they would already be guilty of such evil, that any retaliation would be far more karma, than evil (no matter how evil it would be).

[@danielmadar9938]

Thank you. Note that your illustration of the flood after the dam destruction is wrong, as you "flood" the whole basine. If the dam collapses, only downstream areas, lower than the reservoir might be flooded.

[@Haxerous]

​@@OK-jn4wnwhich is just deliberately deceptive

[@mrD66M]

I think the illustration is "areas affected" rather than "areas flooded". The flood would be obviously downside of the dam, but upstream there could be water shortages.

[@iloveprivacy8167]

Downstream, if the channel narrows, the water might rise higher than the level of the dam. More generally, though: exactly how much will be affected is unknown, while entire basin can be shown without difficulty. From a precautionary principle: better to say people might be affected who wouldn't be than other way 'round.

[@youxkio]

@@mrD66M Yep, and ripple effects on the power grid instability.

[@Tyanus2]

@@Haxerous It's only deceptive if you think that mountains would also be flooded, it's quite clear for anyone to understand that this is just an affected area map

[@canolathra6865]

I feel like a lot of people are forgetting just how strong large amounts of water are. All you need to do is create a crack that allows a dozen gallons per second through, and within a day the entire dam would be destroyed by the force of the flowing water.

[@alexdrockhound9497]

yep. the scouring effects of high pressure water are pretty incredible. If they made a few meter size hole below the water line, the water pressure could eat away the dam down to the river bed. But if china was about to attack taiwan, they would likely empty a lot of water out of the dam.

[@chriswong9158]

How much you know, upon the building of the dam, this issue was not noted and prepare for. Like the Great Wall, it is meant to last a thousand years. Please note the many public project in China history lasted more then a thousand years. After a Nuke, who care for it will be the end of all mankind for CCP have thousand Nuke for U.S.A. alone.

[@brianpeck4035]

Yeah and comparing a leak to releasing water through sluices is unreasonable because of the erosive effects of a large leak.

[@lixzx007]

But compared with China's nuclear retaliation. It will be nothing

[@Alias1983]

It would give important people more time to flee. Best case scenario is to blow it wide open in one shot.

[@Max-pk6uc]

the info graphic feels misleading, why would blowing up the dam, flood areas upstream, I understand how downstream areas would suffer and those are the more industrial and valuable parts, but feels a tad bit misleading when you show upstream parts flooding 100's of square kilometers of land. The more realistic thing is that upstream areas would have their water level drop, a great example would be the dam explosion in Ukraine, The reservoir drained, water level upstream from the dam went down, while the areas downstream suffered. As well as the fact that this is such an important target, China would install protection around the dam, but sure, I grant that it is possible and even the mere chance of this happening is a deterant in of it self, still find the video a bit overly sensational.

[@abdiganiaden]

The graphic design work on this channel just poor.

[@Monsterpala]

But do they have trained dolphins like Russia defending the important Kerch bridge 😂

[@Alpha-Gent]

what to say.. indian imagination is sometimes too much..

[@Abdullahnauman245]

I was going to say

[@CaptainMisery86]

I'm thinking it is showing areas effected directly by the loss of the dam. Upstream areas that lose water and downstream areas that get too much

[@HumanAction76]

It would be insane to believe China doesn't have the air space between Taiwan and the dam protected.

[@Fauzanarief-n7i]

And blowing up a dam are consider a huge war crime becauss most of the casualties are civillian

[@slomo4672]

It's surely protected. But how good is that protection?

[@joaomartins8758]

Taiwan could never reach that damn in a million years.

[@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT]

I'm quite sure the would reach the dam. Just ask Russia about the drones that hit downtown Moscow yesterday. And the drones are not sophisticated; damaging the dam enough is another thing.

[@vlhc4642]

@@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT You might want to look up the distance involved.

[@dennisenright9347]

Might the weaponization of a water reservoir apply in the dispute between Egypt and Ethiopia over the Blue Nile? Filling the reservoir behind the dam as quickly as possible might make the GERD impossible to destroy as the catastrophic release of the full reservoir could overwhelm downstream dams like Aswan and cause floods as far away as Cairo and the Nile delta

[@anitagorse9204]

Yes. If Egypt plans a move it will come soon.

[@soothinglycool9806]

Urgency to counter and conquer desalination is immense. Not doing so guarantees war across the globe.

[@jimdoe9827]

Filling the GERD asap is an existential threat for downstream countries, exactly for the reason that it would cause multi-year droughts.

[@drbuckley1]

Water is at the core of a great many international conflicts today.

[@anitagorse9204]

@@drbuckley1 And of many more future conflicts. This time it won't be about gold and oil, but food and water. This is how far we came as a species...

[@jonah9905]

if it was secret we wouldnt know about it

[@morphkogan8627]

literally lol. Already read about this being a possible strategy like 2 years ago. Im sure China is well aware

[@HolyXerxes]

Yeah, I love this channel so much but I hate when he need to put bait title like that, if its a secret then you wont be talking about it. Only reason you talking about it because is already make public.

[@bolsa3136]

Thats the point. Its deterrance. Like saying you have nukes.

[@jonah9905]

@@bolsa3136 yep, the plan would be worthless if it was secret

[@rodrigopaim82]

Secret can be just non official. Like the "secret" atomic weapons that Israel has

[@kzsposeidon3121]

The dam is between 40m (131ft) and 115m (377ft) thick. Would be really interesting to know, how much (and what kind of) ordonance would be required to catastrophically damage it. You'd have to damage the lower, eg thicker, parts to collapse it. Even regarding some pre-existing cracks and rooms inside the dam, 70-80m (250ft) of reinforced concrete is a lot, bunker buster or not

[@Iamthestig42069]

Dozens of bunker busters around the dam, causing a localized earthquake? Since it’s on water I’d bet the ground around it has a ton of water in it. Use the bombs to create liquefaction?

[@harsectinal]

Reinforced by tofu isn't the same as rebar.

[@henriconfucius5559]

It doesnt need to be completely destroyed, it just needs enough structural damage in the centre of pressure to cause catastrophic failure. Thinking in equivalent concrete thickness, that would mean destroying a bit more than the margin of safety they projected the dam with. Even if its just 1/5 of the thickness, still a lot of concrete lmao And it would need to be done more than 3 times. Either the best saboteours in the world, a huge swarm of supersonic missiles, or some hypersonic missiles.

[@nadine2185]

just need a little bit of damage, and the water pressure will do the rest..

[@Verrisin]

considering the concerns about the concrete quality ... it might not need much.

[@hydra70]

There is another problem with this plan that makes it extremely dangerous for Taiwan. Mutually Assured Destruction depends on a capability to hit back at an enemy that initiates a nuclear first strike against you. If the PRC can prevent an attack like this with a nuclear first strike against Taiwan, then Taiwan either needs the ability to launch an attack on the dam with just a few minutes notice, or they need the ability to launch such an attack even after a nuclear strike from the PRC. Otherwise the PRC is heavily incentivized to go nuclear if they think there is even the slightest chance that Taiwan is about to attack the dam.

[@slomo4672]

China repeatedly states that it will not be the first to use nuclear weapons.

[@justinbarker4813]

I think if China were to go preemtively nuclear, it would completely shut them off from the West and many other regions of the world indefinitely such that they would still cause themselves catastrophic damage. China I would believe is thinking of a way to do an attack where countries will slowly return to do business with them over a decade or so. I think going full nuclear will seal them of the same as North Korea

[@simpleandawesomeanime3220]

The PRC doing a nuclear first-strike against taiwan would literally be opening Pandora's Box and heighten tensions in the Pacific to dangerous levels.

[@12vscience]

Taiwan or an ally could also prevent oil tankers from reaching China through the straights.

[@caralho5237]

China doesnt want to destroy Taiwan. Taiwan is like a treasure chest to them. They wanna take it over

[@jimgolab536]

BTW, the US most recently estimated that China now has 600 nuclear weapons.

[@socket_error1000]

During WW2 the allies had several failed bombing attempts to take out dams that were critical to the German war effort. Until they developed dam-buster bombs that would skip along the surface of the reservoir right up to the wall of the dam after being dropped by low flying planes. The bombs, more like reinforced barrels, would then sink down behind the wall of the dam and explode at depth, putting maximum pressure on the dam at the lowest point. This allowed all the pressure of the water to help work with the force of the explosion. This was very effective and they blew up several dams key to the German war effort. The damage was so severe to civilians downriver, taking out entire villages, that in the aftermath it was decided that this type of warfare should be outlawed and made a war crime. Back then bombing and other types of warfare was so inaccurate that killing civilians anywhere near the target area was just considered part of war. Unlike today when we are outraged when a bomb or missile goes astray in a warzone by even 100' and hits a civilian structure.

[@bobjacobson858]

However, is "outrage" really a deterrent? It may simply cause politicians to wring their hands, with no real consequences beyond that.

[@socket_error1000]

@@bobjacobson858 Such an act would be seen as a terrorist act and result in most nations turning their backs on the attacker. If Taiwan did this and killed the number of people that even the lowest estimates claim are at risk, it would be one of the worst deliberate acts of mass murder since 1938, the last time they deliberately flooded the Yellow river in an effort to try and stop the Japanese advance, killing some 90k of their own people outright and 300k-500k from famine and disease in the months that followed. Even the USA and its allies in the region would have to find a way to secure Taiwan and unseat the current government after such an action or let them fall to the CCP and lose control of shipping trade in the region.

[@lancetheking7524]

​@@socket_error1000 however, I have a feeling this plan will never be inacted until something like literally dropping nuclear bombs upon Taiwan, which knowing China wants an alive Taiwan, I doubt

[@inigomontoya3750]

Old school mentality

[@lancetheking7524]

@@inigomontoya3750 then become part of the dead statistics my friend

[@EarlofSalop]

I spent 6 months teaching in Xiaogan and met a member of the PLA airborne division. He was an NCO and still had never jumped out of a plane. He and his colleagues would pay their major so they never had to turn up. He sold hashish to do this. China is wild.

[@petergilkes7082]

A good story. Story!

[@whocare3704]

As wild as your mother, liar

[@xinggao-to5cp]

A story which is insane,It goes without saying that not everyone should serve in the military in mainland China，if that NCO is truth why would he/she serve for the military if he is that rich to pay their major. If that NCO is a nepo baby why he only got a NCO? Those nepo baby will go to Military College and became lieutenant at the day graduate and get the bachelor degree😂😂😂How stupid the story is

[@bodazephyr6629]

yeh, the PLA is a paper tiger. They failed to take Hanoi in 1979 and that was against Vietnamese support troops and militias. The best Vietnamese troops were in Cambodia at the time, and still the Chinese couldn't win.

[@petergilkes7082]

@@bodazephyr6629 They didn't even try.

[@Moribus_Artibus]

I don't always watch CaspianReport, but when I do it's for Shirvan's one liners.

[@user-gs8jv4oq6w]

I think he is overdoing it… a bit cringey

[@32523Bwahahaha]

I spoke to a Taiwanese General two years ago, and he mentioned the Three Gorges Dam is in plotted solutions of over twenty Taiwanese silos as well as Taiwanese submarines as a target. He said the salve of warheads is unstoppable as many will be fired simultaneously and at least 5 will hit it and its entourage dams.

[@ZweiZwolf]

Yes, and what would be the likely response? Wouldn't China simply flatten the entire island, killing everyone and destroying everything, and then 'invade' the empty island? Destroying dams to kill millions of civilians is a clear, direct violation of the Geneva Conventions, and means that the Republic of China would no longer have such protections themselves. With China having vastly more firepower, you don't think they're prepared to respond?

[@hkfoo3333]

that general does not know the strength of the DAM. The Dam can ONLY be destroyed by a nuke . No ordinary bomb can really damage the dam. it is well protected and in time of war the water in the 3 gorges dam will be lowered . In WW2 they tried to destroy a dam and could not.

[@onlyfacts3178]

if tawian does that,,, its considered a war crime because they are deliberate targeting INNOCENT PEOPLE...

[@Nauda999]

I didn't know Taiwanese have submarines. Now let's wait and see if this actually happens.

[@Jareers-ef8hp]

Yea but don’t you think that China already knows this? China has literally one of the best and most powerful air defense systems in the world and in large quantities. China can just move a bunch of those systems all around the dam and ensure that nothing will be able to penetrate it.

[@nathansamuelson]

The problem with dams, especially large ones, is that they aren't uniformly thick. They typically widen to a foot at the base and contain rooms for workers and turbines. Could you knock out it's ability to produce power? Yes, easily. Turn it into an on demand tsunami? You'd likely need a nuke, a powerful kinetic weapon, or a lot of bunker busters.

[@benjaminbatema6963]

Or a water hammer.

[@shadesmarerik4112]

Given that something like that happened already without nukes on the yellow river: no.. u dont need nukes to break a dam.

[@degreeskelvin3025]

Remember that the entire dam doesn't need to break for the water to break through. You just need to break SOME of it

[@streetrider2487]

@@degreeskelvin3025 Once a crack appears, the massive volume n mass of water will do the rest. Think of the Titan sub..... hahaha

[@itnotmeitu3896]

Not to mention if war broke out the Chinese would fortify the ever living fuck out of it with countless anti missile systems

[@sophosalpha]

If the war breaks out Taiwan has no chance against PRC. They should surrender with conditions and live with peace

[@relaxingtrip4224]

lol look how China is vulnerable if Taiwan able to damage the three gorges dam China economy will collapse in an instant

[@bencopeland3560]

If it’s a Mutually Assured Destruction strategy, then isn’t it important that it not be a “Secret Plan”?

[@airking2883]

​@@michachochulski6015that's what OP is saying

[@STFUGOOGLE420]

​@@airking2883not in the vid title though, he is clickbaiting by calling ir secret

[@EdMcF1]

The mode of delivery would be kept secret, the prospect should be self-evident. Red China will have considered its own vulnerabilities and it would have occurred to them anyway. The Dambusters was not just a film, Barnes Wallis's Upkeeps lit the fuze, as it were.

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

Only secret to you and me... not secret to the CCP and Taiwan and the US! They are very well aware what the weak points are!

[@hughmungus2760]

@@EdMcF1 there are only so many ways to transport hundreds of tons of explosives to a target. Taiwan has neither the heavy bombers or the missiles capable of lobbing that much mass.

[@Ćiribu-Ćiriba]

Actually 423.4 million people casualties, the mainland could have only 1400 million people left and Taiwan 0.

[@jonson856]

One way to increase the pressure on the three gorges dam would be to destroy dams that are upstream of the river, if there are such structures, I am not sure. And then to target the three gorges dam directly.

[@gold9994]

This is the same as hitting a nuclear power reactor. It's war crime anyway.

[@cherryartist17]

Or use the Israeli plan. Fire missiles full of paint at the dam. The paint explosions will do no damage but it will deter China by showing that Taiwan is capable of reaching the dam.

[@Kaihegon]

I mean, if getting far enough in to hit the Three Gorges is gonna be difficult, I could only imagine trying hit a farther target. You not only have to get past the Three Gorges defense but whatever defense is at the next dam. He also said their missile range was just far enough to hit the Three Gorges, so idk if this would be possible. Might as well just throw everything at the single target cause China could just end it all in blink for taiwan with a nuke

[@nelsonumana9547]

Taiwan might not have to do this due to the fact that it was built by China😂😂😂

[@keezy034]

CIA is that you?

[@andytaylor5282]

Just an o'l Navy man's opinion, but those shipping locks look like a juicy target that would be economically devastating but not a cataclysmic as busting the dam, making it a lot harder for China to justify turning the island into a radio active parking lot. And the shipping locks are a lot softer than the dam it's self!

[@johnpage7491]

An excellent tempered response scenario. This leaves the total destruction of the dam as a continued deterrent. "o'l navy man with a plan"!! Good job sailor!

[@JoeSmith-bf5tp]

Take China out. No one cares about those people

[@g.williams2047]

Very good idea. Also puts a lot of pressure on the CCP, knowing that "we already got through once, and we can do it again if we want to"

[@j.c.4192]

No such thing. Any response would devastate Taiwan if there is any attack on the mainland infrastructure. The simple fact that Taiwan imports 98% of energy needs to two ports is the crux and minimal damage to bring Taiwan to its knees. Taiwan will not be able to function at all. As 68% of its food is imported as well.

[@rejvaik00]

3 things for context: 1) To understand the scope of the disaster if the 3 gorges dam ever failed; The entirety of the population of the United States is about 380 millon and Canada is about 30 million, meaning a death toll of 400+ million to put into perspective is like wiping every single person in the US and nearly all of that in Canada off the face of the Earth 2) Needless destruction of civilian infrastructure is today considered a war crime; Civilian infrastructure such as dams can no longer be targeted by militaries unless very specific circumstances allow for it such as if the dam was being used as a base of operations in command and control for the adversary in question And even then a competent military commander would recognize the threat of the potential dam and be very precise in their targeting to limit the structural damage 3) Whoever ordered the complete destruction on the dam would be the newest mass murderer in history; A 400 million loss of life would make the Austrian painter and the Soviet crime boss, and the Chinese communist leader be regulated to water droplets in the newest ocean of blood and the conflict from that would surpass WW2 as the deadliest conflict in the history of mankind

[@NewNewColt]

Counterpoint no one cares what is and is not considered a war crime during times of war. See the dam Russia blew up Nova Kokhovka. Killing hundreds of millions of people who are invading your country with the goal of eradicating it is a non issue. Very unfortunate.

[@The-Elvensong]

Of course this will be a terrible tragedy but the blame will not just fall on the one who ordered it, but also on the one who provoked it.

[@user-sn1se8kh7z]

Don’t invade Taiwan.

[@rejvaik00]

@@The-Elvensong A small yes but mostly a resounding no, it is unlawful and unpardonable to both willingly and knowingly target civilian infrastructure when conducting wartime operations unless the conditions for targeting are astoundingly proven to have turned that civilian target into a military one China will definitely be at fault as an instigator for the hypothetical Sino - Taiwanese conflict, but if Taiwan did respond in kind and was successful in utilizing this plan then the condemnation would flip back on to themselves Something Taiwan is aware of, and that's why they use it as a means of deterrence Luckily for the rest of the world and all supporters of Taiwan, such as myself, it serves it's purpose best by acting as a deterrent, and it is a very _VERY_ good deterrent that allows Taiwan to smugly say to a nation 50 times it's size: *"Hey you CCP fks! We don't even need nukes and yet we can STILL retaliate and end more of ya than you can do to us!"* And it does it's job amazingly well because it infuriates the CCP to no end that a weakness they have is so easily known and bragged about And anything that infuriates the CCP is a good thing

[@rejvaik00]

@@user-sn1se8kh7z I don't think China will ever invade Taiwan I think the China and by extension the CCP are very much cowards and they only would ever fight when they are 100% sure they can win So when they can't they just do posturing, those grey zone tactics, and puff up their chests to make them seem bigger than they really are

[@jinametarasu5117]

aint it a war crime if the dam is destroyed causing civilian casualties? Are we gonna ignore that ethical question since taiwan is with the "good guys"?

[@isaacperry9593]

Though admittedly a whole lot smaller than the 3 gorges, during WW2 the British developed a bomb which bounced across the water and was used on the dams in the Ruhr valley. This addresses the issue of dams' inherent resilience as the bombs would sink when they hit the dam wall and detonate at the base causing maximum damage.

[@stevemercer5769]

The Barnes Wallis ‘bouncing bomb’ was revolutionary in its day, but it needed squadrons of bombers to directly approach the dam across the reservoir to deliver their payload. While he sinking bomb delivered exactly the right type of blast to disrupt the dam, there were significant losses among attacking aircraft, delivery now would be near impossible. Air defense improvements mean stand off attacks are now what air defenses arm, prepare and train for. If loss of these dams would be so catastrophic, you can bet the CCP will have massive air defences in the region. Even supersonic cruise missiles with a suitable payload would likely struggle to reach their target.

[@brixenlang3207]

@@stevemercer5769Ah yes, the original Star Wars/Top Gun Maverick mission

[@killingheros3554]

😒😒

[@Kempi1]

@@stevemercer5769 Air defense is not that effective. Look at all the attacks on Moscow. There are always ways past air defense.

[@khiem1939]

Today using missiles, there would be NO bomber loss or loss of personnel!@@stevemercer5769

[@thedownwardmachine]

A deterrent only works if you tell people about it, otherwise there's no point in having it. The Soviets did something similar in the '80s (see the book The Dead Hand) with the intent of dissuading the USA from attempting a swift decapitation strike. But because the Soviets were so paranoid, they kept it a secret. Yes this was the plot of Dr. Strangelove and yet somehow they made the same mistake two decades after the movie came out.

[@bobcastro9386]

Doctor Strangelove; "But the whole point of the Doomsday Machine is lost if you keep it a secret... Why didn't you tell the world, eh?" Soviet Ambassador Alexi de Sadesky; "It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, our premiere loves surprises."

[@Lolophobia]

Seriously the best movie ever

[@impossible7386]

Except it’s a ruse. It is a fake the same way many of Russia’s supposed capabilities turned out fraudulent. Think about it. If you just say you have it they will believe you.

[@chamonix4658]

What about the Israel and its nuclear weapons? They still deny having them but it clearly works as a deterrent

[@WJV9]

@@Lolophobia - A 'tour de force' from actor Peter Sellers who played 3 major characters in the movie. I also enjoyed George C. Scott's performance as the head of the air force.

[@baahcusegamer4530]

No one ever has a good day making an amphibious assault against a well-prepared enemy. China hopefully has someone at the top reminding the others that “one does not simply walk into Mordor” and Taiwan is very much Mordor in this scenario.

[@J_X999]

China isn't invading Taiwan. Not until their economy calms down.

[@JackHawkinswrites]

A million man swim

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

That's what the Germans thought on D-Day

[@adamdymke8004]

And yet it is still a military operation that is frequently necessary. Also supremacy in the air and volume of fire can cover over a multitude of sins.

[@pakde8002]

Assuming China actually cares about it's people as individuals would be a mistake. The fallen soldiers families will be lucky to get a card from the CCP thanking them for the sacrifice of their family member.

[@AlanTheBest97]

I am an engineer and have worked on dams before. I dont think a missile strike could destroy 3 gorges. It would probably not be enough to cause a flood, 3 gorges is so huge, it would need a lot of enormous missiles, I dont know if such a thing even exists outside the relm of nuclear weapons.

[@Ghostrider7132t]

Well you are right about that point and Taiwan alone may not be able to destroy such a dam. However, other countries can. Especially the US who successfully used dam-buster bombs in the past. 😅

[@belldrop7365]

Well, the thing is, it's made in china. Chances are, it'll break by itself.

[@alexshawcn]

and why would US do that, to a country that can also destroy part of US? The fact that unclear powerhouses don't fight each other directly is because of the nukes@@Ghostrider7132t

[@32523Bwahahaha]

Lol,that's what they used to say about the Twin Towers. Newer missile technology can tear reinforced concrete like paper.

[@comradesillyotter1537]

​@@32523Bwahahahathis isn't really true

[@wayfarer1844]

“Ultimately some actions might be worse than a crime, they might be a mistake “ - these little sayings of geopolitical wisdom are always my favorite part of the videos! After the analysis of course!

[@dongpan8931]

日本政府昨天召开会议宣布，2023年8月24号开始向海洋排放福岛核污染水，持续30年。日本首相岸田文雄在没有得到当地渔民和中国等周边国家的支持下，表示要快速的启动核污染水排海。截止目前居然没在国外媒体上看见有一个主流媒体报道的！真是狗脸啊！盐从哪来，海鲜，海带从哪来？

[@pjdj]

I found this comment the exact moment he said that.

[@chriswong9158]

Better one, China’s Century of Humiliation. Will not see another, no more.

[@wenharn]

My favorite part of the video, on the other hand, is - "When it comes to survival, nothing is contemptable."

[@onlyfacts3178]

if tawian does that,,, its considered a war crime because they are deliberate targeting INNOCENT PEOPLE...

[@grimmWednesday]

Hitting Three Gorges is the most obvious move given its importance and vulnerability. I can’t imagine it’s secret to anyone who’s thought about the issue for two minutes.

[@leontrotsky8505]

The point isnt for it to be secret , but for it to be well known, especially in china, so that tiwain is capable of deterring an attack or abandonment by it's allies

[@tritium1998]

Threatening the Three Gorges is like threatening its cities directly anyway. Either way it's a total war with civilians you won't start unless you're suicidal.

[@linphilip6389]

You are assuming Taiwan is still alive before they can strike China. This video is silly and you are too if you believe it.

[@elessartelcontar9415]

In 1977, Article 56 of the Protocol I amendment to the Geneva Conventions outlawed attacks on dams "if such attack may cause the release of dangerous forces from the works or installations and consequent severe losses among the civilian population".

[@tmog1000]

@elessartelcontar9415 Yeah wonderful words if you are not being attacked

[@anashajmohamad8709]

This would be a war crime

[@ilbjork]

It is rightful defense for Taiwan.

[@anashajmohamad8709]

@@ilbjork a crime is a crime, and the world cant be better if we can justify the crimes.

[@ephraimboateng5239]

Possibly the biggest one in history, far surpassing the holocaust, holodomor and the countless US war crimes

[@ilbjork]

If it could prevent invasion, it would be a great plan. Less people would die from war initiated by a dictator.

[@davidyu3815]

@@ilbjork And then Chinese nukes will sterilize the island of Taiwan then if that happens. That's the rightful defense of China. Oh, and America is not off the hook if they tried anything funny. Chinese and Russian nukes are aimed at the Calderas of America's Yellowstone Supervolcano. Eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano and it's 600x (Six hundred times) more powerful than ALL the nuclear weapons ever detonated since 1945 by ALL nations on earth as calculated by the American University of California. The eruption will make America's ENTIRE nuclear arsenal and the breaching of the three gorges dam.........look like child's play.

[@EovarEndre]

Cixin Liu be like: the deterrence era has begun

[@jonassvelander1622]

"War does not determine who is Right, only who is Left." Haha I love a subtle and smart sense of humor! Kind regards from Sweden!

[@pensando_um_pouco]

"World democracy could have defeated one totalitarian regime after another, the German, then the Soviet. Instead, it strengthened Soviet totalitarianism, helped bring into existence a third totalitarianism, that of China, and all this finally precipitated the present world situation." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[@lakeblackBLM]

World democracy could’ve stopped Germany but they’d rather give them parts of Czechia and make it impossible for black people to participate in the supposed democracy

[@trevorrogers95]

@@lakeblackBLMIt is not impossible for black citizens to vote. You should do the impossible and study history and learn how Stalin and Mao installed their totalitarian regimes, it would really open your eyes.

[@pensando_um_pouco]

@@lakeblackBLM Look what we have here. A bloodthirsty communist waving the flag of the most genocidal and totalitarian revolutionary movement the world has ever seen. Aren't you guys tired of killing people? How many millions will have to be sacrificed on the Altar of Revolution for your earthly paradise to become real?

[@kasugaryuichi9767]

@@kemist578 OK tankie

[@pensando_um_pouco]

@@lakeblackBLM Bloodthirsty communist got angry. So, are you guys tired of sacrificing people to the revolution? Millions of dead weren't enough?

[@successfullguy]

A catastrophic dam faliour flooding downstream would make the make covid lockdown supply chain issues look like a walk in the park

[@allenaxp6259]

According to a 2017 study by the RAND Corporation, a US think tank, a nuclear strike on the Three Gorges Dam would likely cause it to collapse, resulting in a catastrophic flood that would inundate much of central China. However, the study also found that a conventional strike could also cause significant damage to the dam, depending on the type of ordnance used and the location of the strike. For example, a bunker buster bomb could potentially penetrate the dam's thick concrete walls and damage its internal structure. However, the study found that multiple strikes would likely be required to cause the dam to collapse.

[@qweqweqwe5386]

如果三峡被炸，那么一定是用了美国人帮助台独分子制造的武器，而且美国人一定为台独分子提供了GPS，所以在三峡被攻击以后，美国人应该被惩罚，所以在轰炸三峡前，最好计算一下美国可以承受几颗核武器。我不管我就要把账算到美国人头上。 If the Three Gorges is bombed, then it must be using weapons that Americans helped them manufacture, and Americans must have provided GPS. Therefore, after the Three Gorges is attacked, Americans should be punished. Therefore, before bombing the Three Gorges, it is best to calculate how many nuclear weapons the United States can withstand.

[@captmorgan3515]

Finally a video that mentioned the 1938 yellow river flood! It’s impossible to find a video about on KZbin. And it’s so relevant to recent events and so deadly!

[@vlhc4642]

American puppet regimes really like blowing up dams.

[@DZ477]

You could literally just search the topic up. You will learn nothing if you just wait for things to be recommended to you.

[@jacobhuff3748]

”Some actions might be worse than a crime, they might be a mistake." That seems to be applicable to current state far too often. That needs to be a proverb.

[@HANUMAN7454]

Agree.

[@JanG_XXX]

@@HANUMAN7454it is. Talleyrand!

[@Medicine91]

That's a dam good plan.

[@vee-bee-a]

Finally, some-one said it. 😂

[@joemaloney1019]

Damn you beat me to it!

[@Reachland02]

While it’s a dam good plan for war it’s also a dam worst idea for humanity too 😂

[@joemaloney1019]

@@Reachland02 Go on don't hold anything back!

[@relaxingtrip4224]

​@@Reachland02war doesn't determine who is right,but who is left...

[@edsacks]

The water is a problem for the mainland now The Drinking water is so polluted. The mainland is in bad shape!!

[@TheAstrobiologistOW]

The ecological damage from blowing that dam would be utterly cataclysmic

[@appa609]

This would also be, by far, the worst war crime ever.

[@Eliel20117]

The best crime ever

[@RN1441]

I believe that France had a stated policy during the cold war that they had designed their nuclear deterrence such that it could destroy more Soviets than the number of French citizens so any exchange would be a guaranteed relative loss for the USSR. I must imagine that China is keenly aware of the risks of the dam and has invested heavily in air defense for it. I hope we never find out.

[@doujinflip]

Though that was when they had bodies to spare. Now the military-age males are only-sons and shrinking in number rapidly.

[@jimmylee1776]

Taiwan is a province of China & has been this for centuries. War means destruction of properties & lost of lives. It would be better for Taiwan to negotiate with China to be an autonomous province, like Xinqiang & Tibet. China can takeover Taiwan anytime with hypersonic missiles, without sending troops to Taiwan. These missiles will wipe out Taiwan & hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese will be killed Currently many Chinese Taiwanese have relatives in China & they visit each other regularly. Also many Taiwanese work in China. Some Taiwanese companies operate in China. Therefore Taiwan should seek a peaceful solution & be an autonomous province of China. Don’t be fooled by the US & its Western allies to go to war with China. Taiwan will be used like Ukraine. Don’t fight a proxy war against China on behalf of the US & its allies

[@youareliedtobythemedia]

Taiwan is a province of China. But the PRC isnt the government of all of china. There's nothing to negotiate, ROC is the original government of all of china. Oh if you missed the video, Taiwan can kill millions of Chinese in response

[@Christophe.C]

I wonder how long it will take for Chinese bots to start flooding the comment section in defence of China.

[@dennisestradda9746]

Already did, spotted some hardliners

[@markc6140]

No long because your one of them hahaha

[@Christophe.C]

@markc6140 no long? Okay... more power to you then...

[@istoppedcaring6209]

it would disproportionally harm civilians, offcourse it is no different than having a nuclear program

[@tadhgcronin175]

Of course.

[@Fauzanarief-n7i]

That the reason blowing the dam are considering a war crime

[@chrislee9166]

It's never a secret both to China and Taiwan, I lived in China when I was a kid and I heard of that when I was 8 or 9. The dam is far from TW, India or every direction it may be attacked, and it's huge which makes it difficult to collapse. Also it won't be a huge disaster if it collapse, cuz there still are several huge dams on Yangtze river, which ranks themselves NO.4 NO.6 and No.8 worldwide which will reduce the harm. Besides, even if it been destroyed, it won't be a mutual destruction, I mean, several cities like Wuhan and Nanjing will be destroyed but most part in China will be safe, but it will result in nuclear attacks towards Taiwan immediatly. I don‘t think it's a good idea for TW to do that.

[@jpb2366]

If you are fighting for survival all gloves are off…

[@dane5692]

estimated 40 million deaths at minimum, China loses any chance of getting those factories. Taiwan may not win, but neither does China.

[@paladinzzy]

Agree. Why are they making such a big fuzz about the collapse of the dam? During normal days, even if the dam collapses due to any reason, it won't make as much damage as a large scale flood like the one happened in 1998. And Yangtze river has frequent floods during the monsoon season. The power of the dam has been over-exaggerated by this video.

[@tsukareruru]

If one dam collapses the other dams won't be able to handle the massive tsunami that will follow after the massive potential energy in the water from the first dam that collapses is released. And with every dam that gets struck by such a colossal tsunami and collapses, the potential energy gets recharged because all the dams do, is hold more potential energy. Like a domino effect. More dams makes it worse, not better. In fact less dams means no more recharge of potential energy and the tsunami will expend faster the more distance it will travel. All the likes in your comment is genuine cope and lack of understanding.

[@chrislee9166]

@@tsukareruru Maybe you should learn how a gravity dam works at first. Those dams are located on the upstream of this one firstly and second, a gravity dam collapsing has far less effect than you think, unlike an arch dam.

[@edsacks]

Flooding is so great because there isn't proper drainage. Poor build construction!!

[@59Gretsch]

When you look at the map of China in Taiwan, to think that China would ever allow that island to become a landing pad for any foreign aggression is crazy. A nations security is so important that the US almost went to nuclear war over Cuba, an island of our shore. So what is the upside for going to war with a nuclear powered China over Taiwan? And what is the downside of it? Other than US military ambitions I hardly see any advantage to the huge risk of a war.

[@schloops8473]

why do you pretend to be from the West?

[@funbarsolaris2822]

@@schloops8473 Many people from the west understand the reality of the situation and can see through the hysterical propaganda. Not the low IQ ones though... they regurgitate what the defence departments tell them.... despite those same defence departments being caught up in 20 years of failed illegal wars, war crimes, lies and corruption. Why do you swallow the belief that our crooked governments are the "good guys" are you that thick? You not remember Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo, Syria, Pinochet? They don't give a fk about human rights anyone with their head switched on knows that.

[@59Gretsch]

@@schloops8473 At the moment I an at Panara bread on the East coast. Why is it hard to believe a US citizen would not be ignorant of this history?

[@schloops8473]

@@59Gretsch because all you do is repeat propaganda from enemy dictatorships. No it's not good for the US to have it's main chip provider, on which most of it's economy and military depends, to be invaded by china. And no it's not good to have enemies invade your friends. And btw, that same china is in Cuba... should the US massacre and invade Cuba then?

[@doujinflip]

Losing Taiwan could mean India and probably Japan and South Korea arm up on nukes to prevent their own encirclement by China (the "String of Pearls"), while ASEAN gets starved into submission from having their fish and freshwater stolen. A Taiwan not under a terminally belligerent CPC is the key from preventing a greater disaster coming for half of humanity.

[@melikechoc0]

Like the meme with Poland pointing to Article 5, Taiwan pointing to the Three Gorges Dam with missles.

[@Skywalker1826]

I guess most commentors, probably including the roducer of this video, don't know what a gravity dam is. Three-Gorges is a gravity dam. While it is not impossible to collapse a gravity dam but to destroy a gravity dam the size of Three Gorges is extremely difficult, not to mention the amount of efforts to drop enough ammunitions, accurately, to the dam. And Beijing could easily lower the water level of the reservoir before the war. The idea that threatening to destroy the Three-Gorges dam can deter Beijing from taking over Taiwan is simply a pipe dream.

[@baha3alshamari152]

The dam structure is already crumbling since 2020 It won't last for another 50 years There's no need to bomb it

[@kaseycassidy2101]

why not just put torpedos that keep going through the water, send like 10000 of them making it impossible to stop, and just blow the dam up and kill everything going in and out because they’ll get flooded either way

[@gmwpphs1899]

I'm a Chinese-American, a citizen of the United States of course, but I have families back in China, and it'd hurt me both physically and mentally to see my families being wiped out while not offending the political sides of each country... I'm in a extremely tough spot right now. I really do hope this war would never break out, best wishes for peace.

[@Lobos222]

These types of doctrines are put forward and indirectly leaked to prevent, in this case, China seriously considering strategic bombing of Taiwan or even an invasion.

[@mathish1477]

I hope you never have to pick a side. At least being an American, you are free to pick!

[@r2com641]

@@mathish1477America? Free? Lmao

[@Mshi-]

​@r2om641 much freer than Maoist China

[@djwheels6615]

The entire world should hope this war doesn’t break out. There will not be another war. But our hopes are very likely to be in vain. Nuclear war is inevitable. Two superpowers constantly growing/racing to outpace the other both needing the same resources with conflicting interests it’s almost laughable to even consider any other outcomes. It’s a vicious cycle neither country can stop for fear of the other gaining advantage. Humanity as a whole lost when America let another country become a nuclear threat. So because of compassion and sympathy it’s wrong to invade other countries to prevent this and because of compassion and sympathy we have allowed countries to “literally” catch up to the point the entire planet WILL have a nuclear extinction. Compassion and sympathy the demise of humanity.

[@randalljones4370]

Does anyone remember the name Möhne ? The Möhne Dam was, I believe, 80+ feet thick at it's base, and it was breached by just two 10,000 lb bombs which exploded just 9 m underwater. For the 2 bombs that did the breaching, the cement was perforated in the thinner upper section, but severe cracks were created below the level of the explosion, As the waters rushed through the breach, these some of these cracks merged and the breach increased in the vertical dimension. A couple key issues to remember - the Dambusters bombs of WWII were not shaped charges by physical design. They did use the water to some extent, but a more modern shaped explosive can deliver a much higher effective blow than the drum-shape of the Vickers Upkeep. - who is to say the explosives must be delivered by air? Is it difficult to believe that a 20-40k explosive charge could not be hidden in the keel of a large barge, somewhere on the 1000 mile impoundment above the Three Gorges Dam? or under a log-raft? - The three Gorges Dam is anything but solid. Concrete, in great dimensions, takes an exceedingly long time to set. The Hoover Dam is forecast to take at least 125 YEARS to gain it's ultimate strength ... Three Gorges was completed in 2003. It is far from being a solid mass of concrete. Not yet. The task of breaching this dam is significantly different from the 'fable' that is put forth by many in this comment section. It is a big, tough nut ... but not nearly as tough as many here seem to indicate.

[@chrishooge3442]

Yet, those were bombs delivered by heavy bombers. Aircraft will never get that far into China. It needs to be a missile of some kind. It needs to be delivered in sufficient numbers to accumulate enough damage despite some being intercepted. I don't think Taiwan has hypersonic missiles.

[@morishimaharuka8754]

@@chrishooge3442 "i dont think taiwan has hypersonic missles" they do have it from your friendly japan and united states of freedom

[@therealmorf]

Right I'd hit it below the waterline multiple units at different sections just in case the missiles don't hit

[@jonniheinisto9825]

Shirvan i have been watching your channel for about 8 to 9 years now, and i just have to give you compliments that this has to be the best geopolitics channel that i know of. You present everything in such a way that it is simultaneously very detailed, informative and clear & easy to understand, while also being highly entertaining and i would say even hypnotically captivating. The sound effects you have work to not distract but deepen the concentration on the topic itself. I also have to mention that i much appreciate your cold neutrality in your presentation, it is a very good quality to have. Its what a professional does.

[@japjungho4645]

neutrality? as seen from the moon? This channel is as biased as an Indian one. not gonna say the fact that if something is secret, no channel like the Caspian Sea should know.

[@jacekpliszka5326]

It looked like completely fantasy until Russians blew Kachovka dam in Ukraine...

[@muddywolf4459]

As a resident of Taiwan, let's hope war can be avoided

[@PinkSlime0990]

Such a strike would cause major long term disruptions in the global economy and possibly bring hate towards Taiwan from neutral countries. This definitely would/should be a last ditch strategy.

[@EvaExplores-x2x]

They will loose all international support and any retribution including nuclear from mainland to wipe out Taiwan would be justified. It's never going to happen.

[@IblameBlame]

I don't think they're going to worry much about hate if they're dead.

[@EvaExplores-x2x]

@@IblameBlame this whole doomsday plan is flawed because china wants taiwan for its developed economy and strategic importance. It's not mutually assured destruction where one party is completely wiping out the other so the other party needs equal retaliatory capability.

[@richardthomas5362]

Think of all the American companies who stampeded into China for their manufacturing. Most of their factories are downstream of the dam. Once these factories are gone the CEOs who outsourced American manufacturing to China will be blaming Taiwan and crying like babies.

[@brianwhedon8442]

You're missing the entire point of this plan. It's a MAD plan. The whole point of doing this is knowing you're going extinct. So you take as many of your enemy with you as possible. Israel has a similar battleplan called the Samson Option.

[@stopmessingwithyt]

"...for a hypothetical Taiwanese strategy described as chilling, devastating and dare we say, BING CHILLING..."

[@dyflin3246]

You must really like ice cream huh?

[@williambarr3551]

Taiwan need not signal anyone what they will do with the dam. Wargames will show possible Taiwanese action. And absurd is the notion that a deterent to Taiwan dam busting is the possible Mainland China population will rise up against Taiwan. What action will initiate a dam busting attack? What does it matter the opinion of Mainland China, when you're Dead?

[@Arayamk]

This would be the most stupid plan, making a nuclear capable country desperate and irrational has not ended well historically.

[@brianwhedon8442]

That's why its a Mutually Assured Destruction plan. If Taiwan knows they're doomed, they take China with them. This is the same plan Israel has. Google "the Sampson Option"

[@jonjeskie5234]

When has it ever truly been done? Nukes have only ever been used once, and that country wasn't erratic.

[@Arayamk]

@@jonjeskie5234Do you think it’s rational to nuke 200 thousand civilians to dust and 1 million more later for attacking a genuine military target?

[@tritium1998]

@@jonjeskie5234 JFK is praised for threatening to destroy the USSR if there was a attack from Cuba. Now people are cheering or even collaborating with Taiwanese separatists to target Chinese soil.

[@bluegregory6239]

What is your basis for that statement? Nuclear weapons have only been used twice in wartime, by the USA, a nation that was already winning and which, compared to Japan, was neither irrational nor desperate.

[@AverageGuy916]

First of all China is well aware of the destruction of the Three gorge dam, and they have implemented ton of air defense to protect all major infrastructure. Secondly, Taiwan doesn't have the long range missile capability. Third, China can defend against hypersonic missile attacks, so yeah China is not that worried.

[@stephenwhyte2849]

Yes. However if Taiwan develops emp warheads in the new supersonic missiles, they could cripple Chinese air defence radar and fire control systems ahead of a missile swarm attack?

[@AverageGuy916]

@@stephenwhyte2849 You can say Taiwan has all kinds of weapons, but China is in the driver seat, if and when China does decide to liberate Taiwan, with all the war simulations, the first wave of attack would be hundreds of missile bombardments, which would pretty much cripple all Taiwan defensive units and satellite recon ability, second wave would be all the fifth Gen fighter jets to knock out inner military assets and bases. The third would be ground troops invasion ....Game over in less than 10 days.

[@Neion8]

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if the reason the plan was leaked is to push the CCP to invest in defencive resources that wouldn't be particularly useful in a war against Taiwan - effectively wasting some of China's larger millitary budget.

[@meilinchan7314]

That is why I have said: the main paths of invasion for China lie not in the Amoy strait, but through the Kuomintang, and the American capital, Washington DC.

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

You realise Washington DC is on the EAST coast of the US right? There's a large puddle of water in the way called the pacific ocean and then another 3000 mile jog to the east coast while all the time US missiles would be exploding over china. By the time the first Chinese soldier reached Washington? Well, first the city would not exist any more... and secondly neither would China... Remember the US is the only nation on Earth that reserves the right to deploy nuclear weapons in a first strike... and not even if the US is invaded... just 'If US interests are threatened'. A Chinese warship, just one... anywhere within 1000 miles of the US coastline would be seen as 'US Interests Threatened'. In fact China confiscating US assets in China would be seen as 'US interests threatened'. US policy in terms of combat is rather simple. Their doctrine is to aim for a 100:1 ratio in terms of death. So thjey lose 65k in Vietnam, yet 3 to 6 million Vietnamese die. Same in the gulf wars, same in Afghanistan, and same every damn time. The US really do see one American life being worth a hundred Chinese. To compound this China has no experience or memory of war. But the US has been at war every single day of their existence with the exception of maybe a week or so in 250 years!

[@kasugaryuichi9767]

And that's why communist bandit influence must be fought with all means necessary.

[@popolekupasupport2246]

And that ladies and gentleman is what we call a warcrime.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

only Caspian Report can make such serious and cold videos and then do an ad on raid shadow legends or something

[@matusknives]

The dam is deep into the mainland, will be well protected with AD and would take large amount of precision strikes to damage (look at the Kakhovka dam that had to be mined to be destroyed), so it sounds like daydreaming. Even if such an attack would succeed it would have little relevance to a military conflict, but would mean huge civilian losses - something that would greatly undermine any western support in such a conflict. But that does not seem to bother the author of this article. But promoting what is basically a Ponzi scheme based on artworks seems to be perfectly good idea. Apparently even 1.3M subscribers is not enough.

[@chrisx5127]

Considering that Southern China used to belong to Vietnam...

[@likevin3087]

@@chrisx5127 Considering that North Vietnam used to belong to China,That's the real history!See evolution of Vietnamese script.

[@bradgaines5091]

The idea here is that the attack on the dam would be carried out if Taiwan was about to cease to exist. So losing support wouldn't matter, as they'd no longer be in a position to use it. It's like a fighter throwing one last punch in the face before passing out. They're not going to win. They just want to get one last shot before they go down, and make it hurt.

[@包礼文]

​@@bradgaines5091天真的想法，凭什么觉得共产党会蠢到连台湾最后一击都防不住，如果真是如此，解放军也不必将美军当做假想敌，不如早点投降算了

[@cemdursun]

It is deemed as a last resort if an attack on Taiwan is imminent, until that it's a deterrence. Civilian losses in Taiwan vs Civilian loses in Taiwan. Furthermore, you would be surprised how much more Western support would arise in such a conflict since it'd mark the start of World War III.

[@cesargonzalez4146]

There are lots of caveats to this plan, it's like 1,200 km from the possible points of launch, it's surrounded by mountains and other terrain features, it requires a lot of explosive material to be demolished, and there would be air defenses and interception atemps from the beginning of the attack. There's also like one thousand more immediate and easy targets just less than one hundred kilometers from the possible launch points, warehouses, refineries, bridges, highways, ports, shipping facilities, military bases, including airbases and naval bases.

[@Слышьты-ф4ю]

But attacking something else won't potentially kill tens of millions people

[@cesargonzalez4146]

@@Слышьты-ф4ю The CCP is pretty much willing to receive some of what for most other governments would be catastrophic casualties, their propaganda apparatus will make those people into martirs of the revolution or something, what will really hurt them is losing industrial and logistic capabilities, things that support their war effort and allow them to endure the inevitable international sanctions and would allow them quick recovery after the war. I'm not pro CCP but Taiwan can't win this war alone, their best initial strategy is hurt the PRC as much as they can and endure the attack while their allies launch their response.

[@RealBoiJare]

All those other targets wouldn’t instantly decimate a large portion of China though. So it wouldn’t achieve the same goal

[@rootkhan3254]

Taiwan is an ally with the US which is the most heavily invested nation in the world in Stealth flying technology 😂 if this plan would be as catastrophic to China as these analysts make it seem, the west could do it overnight with little to no effort

[@joaomelo7018]

Most importantly Taiwan is only some 200kms long, the Three Gorges Dam is two kilometers wide in the Eastern facing direction, 200m thick. The actual possible trajectories for a ballistic missile are minimal and for cruise missiles you would have to sacrifice range for evasion and that basically rules out Taiwan's missile arsenal from succeeding in such an endeavor.

[@managepay]

You don’t think China can intercept missiles, bombers?

[@AbradolfRizzler]

Literally A civilian target, this is insane.

[@Humble_Merchant]

how does destroying the dam cause flooding both up and down stream?

[@lakeblackBLM]

Gravity around that area is weird

[@arryritalinni]

This guy is living in a fantasy. Taiwan would never dare to attack in fear of retaliation, which is a total destruction of Taiwan.

[@TosoToco]

If the dam ever collapses it will be because of Chinese incompetence and lack of maintenance. Taiwan would never do something like this.

[@J_X999]

Holy cope

[@RichardLi1023]

炸水壩是觸犯戰爭罪與反人類罪，臺灣的領導人不太可能有做的出來的（觀察重點，會廢棄兩人權公約適用的總統或許會，小的沒簽的遵守，大的自不用說）。 但，並不代表不能研究一下如何炸三峽大壩。以曾經身為臺灣政治的次密接者，知道默默買武器朝廷有研究過，在不計算損傷多少飛官的情況下，參照二戰英德炸水壩的歷史與數據後，發現以臺灣現有的武器，炸不了，炸不垮。不過炸炸發電房倒是還可以研究研究，搞斷電道德過得去，又可以造成對岸戰力的暫時減損，可以當作手段之一

[@jul5385]

這影片的製作人是個印度人 印度人自己不敢做的事 找台灣當打手 哈哈

[@Puma-ph5ep]

Looking at this documentary its sad that the Iraqis didnt had a ace in the sleeve like the Taiwanese.

[@tadhgcronin175]

Well said.

[@Cannon500]

Although this plan seems plausible, it is not very practical. The main problem is that the long range cruise missile Taiwan has lacks the payload to deliver a knockout blow. If we look at the Ukraine war, we can see both sides needs at least multiple cruise missile hits on major infrastructure targets to even cause a small amount of damage. The other problem is getting the missiles to their destination and hit the target. China has Taiwan under 24/7 surveillance through their spy satellites, listening positions, and radars, so any major cruise missile launch will be immediately detected by the Chinese military. The missiles will then need to travel all way to the dam through layers and layers of Chinese missile defenses, interceptors, and jamming. Cruise missiles does not have a 100% hit rate even under perfect conditions, so you need at least a handful of missiles to reach its destinations and bypass all the defenses to even have a chance. The chances of a successful missile strike on the Three Gorges Dam is too low unless you are able to achieve air dominance over mainland China.

[@SerfinBird]

You don't need air dominance. Drones in Ukraine get through both sides defenses and misses from both get through both's defenses. With enough missiles it would make it through. Chinese military assets have routinely been worse than both western and Russian assets. There is no reason to think that their air defense systems would be any different.

[@dominusdone5023]

russias air defense system is kinda ehh tho@@SerfinBird

[@ashvandal5697]

People were saying this about Russia and Russia has had several embarrassing strikes in its actual territory. Russian air defense tech isn’t actually very good. And China mostly copies them, and literally all of their tech is untested and unproven in combat.

[@borkwoof696]

Taiwan is kind of like China's Cuba

[@ricksherman34]

Taiwan is just like Cuba except that they are a democracy, well educated , not socialist nor fascist. So sure.. just like Cuba.

[@slomo4672]

​@@ricksherman34You missed the point 😂

[@ricksherman34]

@@slomo4672 I didn't watch the whole video. Perhaps I missed a reference.Either way, I hope Winnie the Pooh isn't dumb enough to try and take Taiwan.

[@aa-hb3tg]

@@ricksherman34don’t get surprised if Cuba gets nuclear weapons

[@ricksherman34]

@@aa-hb3tg Well Russia tried that once and it didn't work out so well for them, but you're right China could try to do something like this.

[@MrStevenAttila]

It is not a secret if it is shown in public! What we see here, Chinese are also seeing that lol! It is not possible for Taiwan to attack the 3 Gorges Dam, because it is deep in the country.

[@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999]

I hope some day this channel can return to historical videos

[@DragonSinOfWrath]

“…Sure, Taiwan would be obliterated in retaliation, but it would go down swinging” my goodness 😅🤦🏾‍♂️

[@katalytically]

Concrete gravity dams are difficult to damage significantly but 3 Gorges is vulnerable. There is a question concerning it's foundation. All dams need a solid foundation and there is a question about the foundation for the dam and also where the sides of the dam anchor into the hills on either side. This is possibly borne out by the fact that China does not generally allow the reservoir to reach maximum height which could mean that the foundation is not stable enough to handle the increased stress from a full reservoir. So attacking the dam itself probably will not damage it sufficiently to achieve the desired result, attacking the dam and it's anchorages might be sufficient. Water is a powerful force when unleashed, just look at the damage when there are floods in many areas of the world. It is also sufficiently powerful to damage a concrete dam sufficiently to cause massive flooding downstream. Flooding downstream of 3 Gorges Dam is particularly problematic. There was one case, maybe more, of the Chinese government releasing too much water from the dam and causing widespread flooding and damage downstream, and that was a controlled release so it would not require a massive breach of the dam to cause catastrophic damage. So bunker busting warheads that target the foot of the dam along it's entire length could cause failure of the dam. It would be like knocking the legs out from under a chair. Add several more targeting the dam and there should be enough to achieve the desired result. The whole thing about China releasing water to slowly drain the reservoir is a good way to prevent catastrophic flooding, the Chinese government will need to watch how quickly it releases the water or else it will create the flooding itself. And another tactic, once the longer range missiles are available, would be to target the dams upstream of the 3 Gorges at the same time. Failure of even one of those dams could dump enough water into the reservoir to over-top the dam probably resulting in failure of the dam.

[@luism007]

The island of Taiwan is a province of China, just as Hawaii is a state of the United States. But China does not seek separation from Hawaii or sell it weapons. The same happens with the island of Puerto Rico, which was invaded about a century ago. What would happen if China sold arms to Puerto Rico?

[@CJ123]

Yeah Both the mainland and taiwan are provinces of the Republic of China 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼

[@smaza2]

the number of snappy one-liners in these videos is increasing. if this carries on, i predict that in 7 more years each caspian report video will be 10-15 minutes of zinger after zinger with little room for information content

[@yoyolim538]

So what is new?

[@tadhgcronin175]

Yes. There is definitely a change. Perhaps a red pill or black pill.

[@smaza2]

@@yoyolim538 just something to consider. after all, knowledge is power, and those that can predict knowledge ahead of time have early access to the throne

[@hungrymusicwolf]

Taiwan is not Syria nor Iraq. Get over yourself mate. Stop making up bs just to make the US look bad. There's plenty of internal shit that they do that you can point out. Don't try to smear them on some of the only good things the US does.

[@killbot86]

@@smaza2 You do realise that guy is a pro-CCP stooge right? He writes countless dumb comments in support of the CCP....

[@PiotrDzialak]

When I visited Taiwan, I had an impression that people would rather die than kill millions of fellow Chinese on the mainland. And the current political elite is also not that detached from reality as Chang-kai shek. When I visited Three Gorges Dam, it seemed that the defense was a major concern. It had been constructed with bombardements in mind. Please also note that Chinese control of Tibet is essential for China's survival, most of Chinese major rivers originate in Tibetan Plateau. A hostile government in Tibet would be able to threaten China in a similar way this Taiwanese plan intends to.

[@TomJerry12933]

how can it be a secret doomsday plan if your publishing documentation on it?

[@robertfox6369]

Hahaha so this is not a secret anymore.. makinh this video for the views

[@jamesgoode9246]

Interesting idea for Taiwan. If I were them, I'd be planning for this strategy. - - - - - - - Your graphic depiction of the river flood after destroying the dam is misleading. You show the entire river valley as becoming flooded. That's simply wrong. Only the river valley below the dam would flood. Destroying the dam would NOT cause water to run up stream.

[@joaovoador05]

This video was probably done with little research and you just want more views rather than quality content. You failed to mention Yichang that is 50km downstream the Yangtze river with another major dam that operate and coordinate with three gorgeous dam. Any reaserch on this topic would cover this as those two dams work together and both are in Yichang. I would assume you decided to intentionally not mention this in your video as people are probably more interested in seeing China getting destroyed and you would get more views. I'm very disappointed in this channel, it used to be a well researched and fact-based channel but now it's more like infographic show.

[@Bitcoin1y]

what's the issue with infographic show? explain to me?

[@joaovoador05]

@@Bitcoin1y It's a huge biased channel.

[@parveskoyes9937]

If Taiwan flood China, China won’t respond by obliterating Taiwan it’ll defeat the whole purpose of unification. Reconstruction would be a nightmare for both sides.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

There would be no reconstruction for Taiwan. It would be glassed by nukes.

[@schloops8473]

the CCP doesn't care about any of that though. It wants Taiwan because it feels like it's a strategic weakness... it's probably ready to lose hundred of million of chinese to resolve it and it doesn't need for Taiwan to be in a good state after it.

[@slomo4672]

If Taiwan becomes independent, US will have military bases on it. That's why China can't let Taiwan becomes independent.

[@vlhc4642]

North Korea might nuke New York in response.

[@schloops8473]

@@vlhc4642 in Fat Boy's dreams, maybe

[@simonmeszaros2770]

we ve seen same thing happened in nova kachovka. huge dam was partially destroyed and villages were flooded up the roofs. but there were not so many causalties and in this case i think depending on terrain the reault would be similar. not much damage. if dan would collapse in one shot as a whole than the wave would have an impact, otherwise you can see how water flows through a hole. nothing "dramatic" so again execution is a key and wety unlikely such a dam could be wiped out with one huge salvo.

[@Tamachii12]

The thing isn't about casualties, if that dam goes down, it will basically flood 70% of the industrial capacity and at least 50% of the military complex so it is more on material damage side...

[@Akrilloth]

The Ukrainian dam was also of incomparable quality, this dam is so corner-cut and mistreated you would just need a little explosive push for the whole thing to shatter.

[@simonmeszaros2770]

@@Akrilloth who knows...mass of concrete is a mass of concrete. gravity works, material is interconnected, its type of gravity structure not a dynamic one.. There are definitely type of explosives which can make a huge hole, transform concrete into sand in a milisconds. But that dam is also huge. Not easy task.

[@Akrilloth]

@@simonmeszaros2770 just look up tofu construction. If it was actually concrete, that would be one thing, but every chinese mega project so far have used "concrete" you could crumble with your hands due to the absurd amount of budget embezzlement happening with all these show pieces.

[@defoltknight]

This video presents it as China wouldn't know that.

[@ismailnyeyusof3520]

I cannot see a war between China and Taiwan as anything more than a struggle between two Chinese ideological adversaries. Its a struggle however, with catastrophic consequences for the entirety of China and also the world, so the belligerents concerned would do well to stop what would effectively be sibling fatricide on a monster scale.

[@tewsahewsa3120]

You are wrong, most Taiwanese think they are not one nation with China and will even use the derogatory term used by the Japanese to call the Chinese during the Japanese invasion of China,

[@bidenator9760]

Taiwan and China are entirely different nations. There's nothing fratricidal about a conflict between them.

[@drlcartman]

this is a war crime. I doubt they would do this, even in the most extreme circumstances.

[@nobodyherepal3292]

So is bombing hospitals, churches, apartments, malls, markets, monuments, grain silos, and water treatment plants….. But that hasn’t stopped the Russians so far…..

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Absolutely a war crime but you can't discount the fact that it would cripple China

[@shadesmarerik4112]

oh sweet summer child

[@patricko9479]

So is attacking an independent nation. As soon as China is attacking Taiwan, the first war crime has been commited already.

[@sang8720]

Under extreme circumstances, they would do it. This is war you’re talking about here.

[@sherifalaa3523]

Good Episode .. we need an episode about the Ethiopian GERD and Egyptian army capabilities..

[@ericvulgate]

The three gorges dam destroyed an unknowable number of ancient human remains and cultural items. We have permanently lost an incalculable wealth of knowledge.

[@talkinghand122]

Will empty the dam bring it back?

[@T.Hebert]

So what? Ceasing construction projects that benefit everybody just to save a few trinkets is dumb.

[@octaviushite]

Taiwanese-Canadian here, and we remain quite safe. Thanks to this and many other things. Long live free Taiwan.

[@ezekielteklaking]

"War does not determine who is right only who is left" great quotes from Bertrand Russell.

[@VunderGuy]

Bertrand Russel has no great quotes, so your comment is invalid.

[@ezekielteklaking]

I have no idea who Bertrand Russel is, and make no claim to value of his quotes. I'm noting who said the quote as its custom in citing someone's else's idea or words when you use them. I think that's a valid point. @@VunderGuy

[@jskelly1979]

All you need to know it in the first one minute and 30 seconds of the video.

[@christopherd6399]

The three gorges dam will fail by itself, eventually. Probably in most of our lifetimes, sadly.

[@hughmungus2760]

yeah just like Jesus is going to return right?

[@christopherd6399]

@@hughmungus2760 no, like the CCP didn't build it correctly. It's going to fail.