Cassidy ISN'T the Princess (I think...?)

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[@titan7789]

Oh yeah, this will be controversial...

[@ender01o66]

Yup.

[@jigglyback2338]

Very

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

100%

[@FTZPLTC]

I think the biggest question to ask with a lot of fan theory interpretation is "If this was true, what else would have to be true". Most of the theories that stick with Cassidy being this character rely a lot on what it could *potentially* mean, in future, down the line. And I think that's because, with the information we have at the moment, this character being Cassidy would make very little sense, add very little, and if anything subtract from other, better story elements. I don't think that a story element being bad means that it can't be true, but if slapping the name of Character A onto Character B doesn't make the story better, why do it?

[@hioman]

Princess quest is Cassidy is Gregory is a robot lite

[@dumbly-stupid]

​​@@hioman I'd say mike victim lite because it's not as crazy as gregbot but when I say mike victim I mean back in 2018/19

[@Grimkeeper17]

Most theories focus on small bits and disregard or neglet other things that contradict the ideas they are bringing forth. Ive said it before i dont think anyone is actually trying to solve it they are content farming and relying on fans of the series that dont want to actually read or play all the books or games.

[@PlainLo]

I Never believed the theory that Cassidy is princess quest anyways 🤷‍♀️

[@porcelainchips6061]

Yellow Bear is a "true" anchorless ghost, whereas I think all the other spirits are "tied" to a physical object. I think a really common issue is that people often are very loosey-goosey about how the spirits "work" when I think there's probably some simple underline rules they "operate by". Yellow Bear is clearly the one that breaks the mold for some reason; it wants you to know about it; it is always reaching out to the player to try to affirm; "It's me". Instead of worrying about the name of Yellow Bear, I wonder if it would be better to try to step back and try to identify the spirits by what they do, which mascot character they are associated with; what seems to have happened to them. I think the "name game" is getting everyone off-track; we're so tied to the idea of applying names that I think we've decided that naming a character is equivalent to solving the mystery of that character, when I think the "real mystery" we should be looking at are things like "why does yellow want to speak to us?" or "what happened to the scooper? / where did the scooper go?" (multiple people knew of it, worked with it).

[@ilikepigeons6101]

This is so true

[@L1z43vr]

The yellow bear you mean is Golden Freddy. He's not an anchorless ghost, because that's not how Remnant works. Spirits don't just take bear forms and go around, they have to be connected to something. He actually, _physically_ exists, as proven by FNaF 2. Golden Freddy is Fredbear, and he tells us "IT'S ME" because, if we're taking the 2 souls theory as fact, it's Bite Victim telling Mike "It's me, brother, I'm alive.", and if we're taking Vengeful theory as fact, it's Cassidy taunting Mike, trying to make him confess by saying "It's me, the one you shouldn't have killed" or "You did all of this, you brought this on yourself". No one needs to know more about the scooper, it served its purpose by explaining what it was and why Mike's still alive. It's a dismantling tool as well as a remnant injector, there's not much else to say.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@L1z43vr this is also true

[@porcelainchips6061]

@@L1z43vr I said yellow bear to lamp shade /emphasis how obsessive the community has become with labeling, much like how Sire has called it Golden Boi, or other random names. I do not doubt the spirit is tied to the physical Golden Fredbear, but it is NOT anchored to it the way the others are, via it's astral-projection. No other haunted animatronic can both be in an object and project out; but Fredbear does. It's head floats in the air in FNAF2, it causes the scenery to change in FNAF1. Freddy, Chica, Bonnie and Foxy do not have that ability and in UCN are stated by the puppet to not have the self-awareness to do it. There are many theories that have already been created to explain what yellow bear boi is, as you've named above; my question is if you take these theories and put them aside; what does it look like? What does it just look like? Without referencing a third party, how do you take the game footage and process it in your mind? All I am saying is I think we are collectively driving ourselves nuts by not just observing and paying attention to what we ourselves just see; we're going off the rails by trying to constantly read-up on theories and depend all of our own assumptions on the works of others instead of going with first-hand observation.

[@L1z43vr]

@@porcelainchips6061 The problem with that logic is that if we remove the "third party theories", as you call them, then we can just chalk everything we know to the air. William Afton isn't the Purple Guy by that logic. Elizabeth isn't an Afton by that logic. _Charlie_ doesn't exist by that logic. Only processing the game footage is not enough, because the games barely tell us anything. This isn't like Silent Hill, where there's a secret file explaining things to us. Things are scattered in and out of the games for us to understand them. And if we do what you're asking, put all these theories aside and just take everything the game tells us at face value, we have: Animatronics aren't possessed, they're just malfunctioning. There was a murder in the pizzeria and that's probably why it closed down. A purple guy is Springtrap. In FNaF 4, we play as a child who is the crying child. In FNaF SL, Michael No Last Name Given is proved to be the Purple Man. In FNaF 6, everyone dies in a fire. And FNaF UCN is not canon at all. See where the problems rise? I agree that Golden Freddy acts weird with his astral projection ability, and that he's probably not anchored in the same way as the others, but to say he is not anchored at all is to ignore how Remnant works, and while the books aren't really canon, the rules of how Remnant works are.

[@AshleyOrange]

The thing people seem to forget is that 99% of people working on FNAF have no more information then us as Scott doesn't even tell the voice actors about their own characters because if Scott just went around telling everyone he works with then the lore would leak so no one should trust anything such as file names

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

Yeah, the file name being changed is _weird_ to me as well. I do think there are a variety of things that would fit well under that theory (such as the shadowy Princess mirroring Shadow Freddy, and of course the red old man), but... why is _only_ this thing changed? And yeah, why does she need Gregory to control her? So I'm not sure what to think at the moment. Glad to see more people questioning it, even if it turns out to be true it'll be good to have forced people to develop the theory more. I do think that-if it's her-we can guess at how she got in there, though. In _Special Delivery_ we hear about a virus that's messing with DLZ's systems, which initially sounds like Glitchtrap, but then Ness isolates it in one place and eventually removes it, which doesn't make a lot of sense if it's him. Given the "C" + "IT'S ME" things from the trailers and Golden Freddy's weird behavior in-game, it seems like this virus may have been her and Vanny imprisoned her somehow.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

I believe they changed the file name so that people wouldn't take it literally as lore, but they were too late

[@darkhumour741]

Now that I think about it, Stitchline Games (something I believe) really does kill the whole circuit board explanation for how Cassidy got into FNAF VR and became the Princess. If Andrew is “the one you should not have killed” and Cassidy drowned at the red lake with OMC… That means she took his advice and laid her soul to rest. She’s gone.

[@DarkonXia]

I wanna State that Fuhnaff and Scott did talk at least once AND he was sent the ruin trailer early. So steel wool is aware of the things we say at least some what.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

You are so right. When theorizing for a story people gotta think about if their assumed story would genuinely make the overall canon story, actually good in terms of writing if the theoriser did turn out to be right

[@exotericidymnic3530]

I want to point out just how insane it is to take the name of some file or variable in the code as lore. Companies do not keep a strict eye on this stuff, even putting the insanity of code comments aside. Fox did not tell the devs of simpson's hit and run to use "fucked" as a variable, and there are countless other examples of this because devs just use whatever name helps them remember the function the best. It is much more probable that whoever named the secret doors were just big FNaF fans (as if this wasn't known) and the doors reminded them of the fourth closet, and this is something that wasn't patched out.

[@johnman8398]

If you were talking about a regular franchise you'd be right it'd be kinda crazy but let's be real here we're talking about FNAF the franchise where the creator has hidden important lore in the source code of websites. Not to mention any big fan of the franchise would understand that people tear into FNAF games to see what is hidden underneath. Not to mention this isn't a phenomenon that is unique to FNAF, the fans of Undertale and Delatrune also do this sort of thing as well. Maybe it's somehow possible that there are no lore implications at all but at least rn its more reasonable to assume that there are rather than a mistake.

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

I think at this point, the naming thing is the least of the evidence fir Cassidy being the princess.

[@Jay_18697]

Then why name it Cassidy? Why would any random Steel wool employee not informed of the games story put that there? Just asking

[@peanutbutter6720]

⁠@@johnman8398 this isn’t a game made by Scott though. We don’t have any definitive evidence that Steel Wool thinks as deeply about this sort of stuff as Scott did.

[@dumbly-stupid]

​@@Jay_18697 It could've been a random employee thinking it was Cassidy

[@koi_bee]

I've always been very skeptical that Princess is Cassidy due to the file name having changed, glad I'm not the only person who thinks that it's odd

[@artblocked4568]

god bless your theories tbh i think its important to be skeptical of commonly accepted "canon" ESPECIALLY when its based on such a grain-of-salt type of evidence such as this. like, sometimes fnaf theories feel like fnaf conspiracies at this point

[@maxwellattacks6645]

It’s nice to see a more developed version of this particular theory, because I never heard people who believed this properly explain it.

[@soomi5667]

While I still kinda think Cassidy could be the princess.. you brought up a lot of good points. How did she get in there anyway? How does she even fit in with the story at this point? And etc. A lot of the stuff you brought up seems to point to it representing what happens to Vanessa.. but maybe the intent of this was changed? I guess we’ll find out sooner or later. You gave me a lot to think about now when it comes to this lol. But that’s not really a bad thing haha. 😂 good vid as always!

[@smashers6971]

I think it makes more sense that by this point, most of the old cast are gone, I still am a firm believer of the idea of Happiest Day being Cassidy’s ending after UCN her finally finding peace and her and the original MCI moving on, it’s a good way to finish off the plot lines of the MCI and the old timeline. Better than Vanessa being shoved aside as a character for like the 3rd time, but at least this time it’s more of a small mistake and not actually making Vanessa just as irrelevant as a character like the crying child.

[@nintenkid-nt2rk]

Bruh crying child being irrelevant his death was one of the causes that made William a murderer I also believe that he’s in Molten Freddy one of his voice lines literally saying “one big happy family” non of the mci are related to the Aftons and the fact that Gregory looks exactly like the crying child even with the small details with the bandages on the the check and the knee

[@Wizardjones69]

William in my opinion became a real murder because not like henry good life, he's drunk and when he see puppet walk around in freddy's, he make a strange feeling of became imortal, to revolutionary sciense and be better than henry: make live at least of mechanic things And crying child is gone after fnaf world/happiest day/after fnaf 3 fire in 2015 Molten mci is just good and bad at the same time so XD

[@smashers6971]

@@Wizardjones69 Yea you could remove CC’s death and nothing would change, you could just say William was jealous of Henry’s success and fame and got to drinking leading to Charlie’s dead.

[@adammartinez8061]

@@smashers6971 It’s also possible that the Princess in Princess quest is it’s own entity and just part of the game. And when she says “something’s not right.” When getting the Vanny mask and Glitchtrap plush in SB, that’s not supposed to be there….there’s some evil influence that shouldn’t be in the arcade port.

[@joel9104]

I think this is good way to look at the current state of fnaf theorizing, we just wanna know the story and we are just making new info fit into the story we have in our minds instead of rediscovering the story with this new info

[@CHEESEPUFF_7]

Oh thank goodness, im not the only one who thinks so

[@CHEESEPUFF_7]

I'm back after having finished watching the video and this is the only one I've seen that I completely agree with

[@jerbpickle175]

I always thought Cassidy being in security breach was weird. I think this could be accurate

[@DerFalke86]

You cant unscooby-doo what have allready been scooby-done

[@RuthlessDarknes5]

"cassidy to P3, I take the glitch rabbit" is just too funny to me

[@Chillipeffer]

With minimal bias and no need to create robot kids and Mrs Afton in the games, this channel is a hail mary on digging through the mudpile of FNaF's story

[@kksmith2282]

While I do still think Cassidy is the Princess, I 100% agree with you that it's always good to be extremely skeptical of any assumptions when it comes to this franchise. It really, really bothers me when people assume their head canon is just "right" and refuse to question that. So I actually do appreciate this video. (and I actually really like your idea of Gregory somehow freeing himself via playing some arcade machine too) I will say, I think the original Princess Quest was 100% about Vanessa. Back when it was just in the mobile port. But I think Steel Wool retconned it into Cassidy for Security Breach. Also a couple minor things: How did Cassidy get into an arcade machine? Depending on just how chronologically canon any of the books are to the games, if we take Andrew as a parallel of Cassidy, then it's not a stretch to say Cassidy attached herself to Afton and when Glitchtrap was scanned in, so was Cassidy (this also depends on how much the Mimic stuff factors in, but then it could also be some AI Cassidy as well, who knows) As for why the filename was changed, I agree, it's suspicious. But then I also wonder if maybe Cassidy is meant to factor into Ruin in some way. Not particularly because of the name Cassie but there's an interesting duality motif in the Ruin marketing and one of the teaser messages said "I hear voices" which reminds me of the Security Logbook "I hear sounds"... Both of these things somewhat reminding me of the two spirits in Golden Freddy. If that's actually intentional, who knows, maybe Steel Wool is trying to hide a part of the DLC plotline (maybe there's some super obvious connection to Princess Quest or something). Totally spitballing here, just throwing this out as a possibility. Still absolutely agree it's suspicious tho.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Man…I miss when Fnaf lore was just purple guy killed some kids.

[@SallyGrim]

I agree, Vanessa is the princess makes more sense. I like your idea that Gregory, even while possessed, is trying to free Vanny. I didn't know this was a controversial take. I thought I was paying attention to the fnaf theory meta but clearly not.

[@mylam658]

12:20 lol why is chara there oh wait it was a joke about Kara's name, why did that float over my head 💀

[@spoopylol5519]

The files arent named Cassisdy any more

[@1Tombb]

Yet *it's me" is still in the files

[@therealharshlycritical]

probably should watch the video before commenting

[@spoopylol5519]

@@therealharshlycritical I wanted to be the first sadly I didn't get it

[@punusername3445]

I think most of the problems with Theory Solving is people forgetting that is still supposed to be a story, it should still take character motivation, archetype and whatnot into consideration.

[@naeka9752]

This is so compelling though, your evidence is solid imo. I hope the Fandom doesn't flay you alive, but honestly, Cassidy as the princess isn't interesting from a storytelling standpoint and really nerfs how extremely badass her character has been up to this point. But if it IS Vanny, then it's the story of her gaining her freedom and that is far better.

[@jigglyback2338]

I love how chara from undertale was just spasming out in the background while you talked about the ghost girl although I think that chara from undertale would beat the ghost girl up with her knife if they actually fought😅

[@Jesterman]

The thing is that we already know where Cassidy is at this point in the timeline. She's in the special delivery service as Classic Golden Freddy (which is the form she takes in the final cutscene of UCN, by the way). It's my theory that after Afton escaped UCN, Cassidy went looking for him, but couldn't find him since unlike the other times he came back, he doesn't have a physical body. You could also say that she's in the delivery service because she mistook the Springtrap replicas for the real deal.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

the only way she can actually come back is via the golden freddy/fredbear suit she always appears as, cuz notice how we never see what happens to it?

[@1Tombb]

​​@@ilikepigeons6101 Come back? When did she ever leave? Spirits can linger y'know

[@Jesterman]

@@ilikepigeons6101 I'm fairly certain that Cassidy's suit is an apparition. For one, in the give gifts give life mini game, the middle child, presumably Cassidy, isn't given a mask. Additionally, Cassidy is able to change her suit's appearance at will, changing it to look withered in FNAF 2, changing it between withered, Fredbear, and Classic during UCN, and possibly Cassidy could be Yendo in Sister Location but that one is a bit of a stretch. Hell, we see her do just that in AR with the Great Escape skin.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@Jesterman i would believe you except it's just that, she can somehow still kill you. Like your explanation explains why he can appear as a massive flying bear head but at the same time, that flying 'ghost' bear head can legit still kill you somehow, same in fnaf 1 with ending ur run

[@ilikepigeons6101]

@@1Tombb like come back physically

[@randal6544]

I've been waiting for somebody to make a video on this. I've always found the idea of Cassidy being the princess a little stupid. Considering that princess quest was first in the mobile port of help wanted I always saw that as a re-telling of what the tapes told in the other versions of help wanted. And the connection between this and Vanny in security breach kind of solidifies that more.

[@75JUNAKI]

I have to agree.

[@sparklingbee_]

100% agree with everything that was said in the video The file name was simply misleading and that's why it was changed

[@leritykay8911]

Woah, this isn't playing Devil's advocate, it's more like... Angel's Prosecutor

[@YellowSkarmory]

I appreciate these dives into theories that the community as a whole has just accepted an interpretation of without considering the downsides. There are problems with some widely-held theories, and people are willing to just ignore them and say they're canon without thinking about the problems. I never thought drowning girl really fit Cassidy. My interpretation when reading the story was that she represented Charlie, if anyone, but more likely she was either a loose parallel for one of these characters that didn't contribute much to the story or another book-only character that also doesn't contribute much (read: at all) to the story. Semi-related Cassidy rant upcoming: The thing is, if Cassidy isn't in UCN, isn't the Princess, and isn't in Drowning, what is her role in the story? (I get this theory isn't taking a stance on UCN, but Andrew as the vengeful spirit is gaining a lot of traction and I have problems with it.) Drowning as a whole doesn't really provide anything for her story, actually, without at least one of the other two being the case, and I think one of the two has to be true. There's no good reason for Cassidy to randomly show up as the Princess without being involved in UCN, either, so I pretty much have her pinned down as Vengeful Spirit just because her story makes no sense without being it. If you jump to Princess Quest from her time as Golden Freddy, there's a step missing in there as to why she's important. I also highly doubt her name would be revealed via the logbook if she's not meant to be an important character for the story. I think it's pretty possible her story does end at UCN though; we'll probably know more after the DLC.

[@playmaster_plus]

What gives Cassidy such power in relation to the other spirits? Do all ghostified dead kids have the power she has, or is there some kinds pre-requisite? Surely she's not just a powerhouse because she's vengeful, right?

[@xxmxvnlightxx6877]

So far her being vengeful is one of the reasons she displays such power it could be that the others have the same power and just don't use it but I guess we will never know.

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

It’s because pain = power and Cassidy has a lot of pain so Cassidy = more power then other kid because more pain because Fnaf logic

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Cassidy was paralyzed after she died. She physically couldn’t stand up or move and all she was good for was twitching. Cassidy NEEDED those super natural powers if she were to move around like the other animatronics. It was literally the only way she would be able to get ANYTHING done.

[@mumbolio851]

I think you hit the nail on the head here, I always thought it was weird that people just thought it was fine that they changed the name.

[@MarcyCCIreal]

Because of the princess quest 4 thing in hw2 its been 100000000% confirmed the princess ISN'T cassidy. she shows up irl. cassidy would not be able to. also we KNOW its in real life cause of the other ending being maskbots introduction in ruin

[@MarcyCCIreal]

also also: the graves could just be a puzzle. and the chica looking at you could be a reference to "i was the first. i have seen everything"

[@docrilas]

And the red man is named "OMC" in the files

[@MarcyCCIreal]

@@docrilas he could still be omc without needing Cassidy there

[@docrilas]

@@MarcyCCIreal but why the red man would be Old Man Consequences but the yellow girl would not be Cassidy

[@MarcyCCIreal]

@@docrilas because Cassidy has moved on. Cassidy is gone. however. media canon can be whatever you want it to be for you. if in your personal fnaf lore you want Cassidy to be the princess, that is fine. also. another thing: the switch port of sb labeled burntrap as the canon ending but hw2 recons it. retcons exist

[@kittydemonoverkill]

I believe that if Stitchline is canon, it's simply a *_PARALLEL,_* and not one-to-one. As in Andrew represents Cassidy, and Jake represents Bite Victim, and the Stitchwraith itself would be a parallel for Golden Freddy.

[@TrifectShow]

Something I realized is how nobody calls out what Golden Freddy is from a meta perspective. In all the FNaF games, Golden Freddy's gameplay is always paired with ultimate/impossible difficulty. How Golden Freddy is able to upend your game experience. It is the most challenging character to face against because its super easy to lose against him if you aren't on your guard. Considering stuff like Golden Freddy mode. Golden Freddy has been akin to a secret final boss in the FNaF games. I'd say the Princess Quest is the ultimate challenge for SB. hence the Golden Freddy/Cassidy connection. Not everything has to be for lore reasons.

[@siresquawks]

I’d argue the opposite for the same meta narrative that by this logic, Burntrap’s ending,which requires you complete all bosses unlike the freedom/Vanny redeemed ending, would be the one with golden Freddy in it because it’s the hardest ending (at least it’s supposed to be).

[@TrifectShow]

​@@siresquawksAnd literally, Golden Freddy is the focus of UCN's story. The game represented by ULTIMATE difficulty. So of course Princess Quest ending is the ending that takes the most hurdles to get to for its buried nature and completionist goal. Its like the best ending, similiar to FNaF 3's hidden good ending that takes leaps to get to. FNaF 3's good ending is even about Golden Freddy. When you look at it contextually, it makes sense.

[@siresquawks]

Not really. You’re arguing the hardest challenge is what leads to Gold Freddy. Princess quest can be accessed by backtracking a bit and walking down a catwalk in a scripted sequence. Burntrap requires you to stay after 6 AM (which had no save point originally) get all of the upgrades by beating the remaining scrapped bossfight, going out of your way to an unspecified area that requires all upgrades, to a secret final bossfight. Not to mention, as you said Fnaf 3’s more complicated completed ending is related to going out of your way, but also, that ending is implied to be the true ending. In the switch port, burntrap’s ending is called the true ending. Once again, I feel like by the logic you’re arguing the narrative would point to Burntrap’s ending. I don’t necessarily think that’s the case, but that’s what it would be from the meta angle.

[@TrifectShow]

​@@siresquawksI mean hardest to get to based on how accessible it is, not hardest. Because difficulty is subjective. Most of the endings are straightforward to acquire and require no extra steps. Apart from the Burnt Trap ending that is only slightly tricky to find. I think playing through 3 arcade games all across the Pizza Plex, you wouldn't even assume they are interactable to begin with. Like the minigames in FNaF 3, its very scattered to achieve each step. But I guess the Burnt Trap ending is the 'hardest', since it serves as a final boss.

[@dinismatias4142]

Cassy from Ruin is Cassidy

[@siresquawks]

who knows.

[@WWTWW]

Honestly, a lot of this discussion depends on whether you believe the books are part of the game's timeline or not, or even which parts. If the latest books are a part of the game's timeline, IS that girl in Drowning actually Cassidy? Does that mean her spirit is stuck in some game? If it is, is that really her in the Princess Quest games? Is her soul split among many games? I wish Scott would just make a post clarifying it a little more like he did with the Fazbear Frights books. (And even then, it was still kind of vague, lol. But at least it showed that it wasn't the exact same as the games.) I know the Mimic is currently believed to be Burntrap & Glitchtrap, but I personally think it's too early to call that just yet. (For example, I don't think the Mimic was ever described as having rabbit ears. Perhaps it will show it getting rabbit ears in a later story, but I don't think it has currently.) I'd really like to see how the rest of the book stories play out (or at least see more direct confirmations) before coming to a definitive conclusion about these characters. In the case of if William's soul is still around and if he was the one who became Glitchtrap, I think it's possible that they scanned Springtrap's circuit boards and Cassidy (who was probably attached to Afton by that point, if the parallel from Fazbear Frights about UCN is correct) also got trapped in the game like William did. This is how you could have her in the VR game (like with the "IT'S ME" Easter Egg) and potentially spread or moved to other games (such as Princess Quest). One thing I am curious about is the girl in the Drowning story. Yeah, it could just be some random kid or something, but the story weirdly focuses on details of her appearance and past a lot more than previous stories did with other ghostly characters. Whoever she is, she seems to be attached or stuck within one of the games/attractions, so that at least shows that ghosts can indeed be inside of games. (I haven't revisited the story recently and don't remember the details, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) I think it went into odd detail about how the home and the people in the family picture looked like they were from a time period long ago, so I do think that the girl is meant to be someone important. I'd also like to point out that it showed her with... what was it? Green veins or something? (Again, I'm going off of memory right now, so correct me if I'm wrong.) When I saw how the girl had that weird green stuff as a part of her, it reminded me of Andrew, the Golden Freddy spirit from the Fazbear Frights series. In the Man in Room 1280, Andrew was keeping William alive, and when the nurse tried to suffocate him, I think William threw up some of that nasty green stuff. So when seeing that the girl had the green stuff, I interpreted it as showing that maybe she is implied to be the Golden Freddy spirit (a.k.a. Cassidy). She certainly has the correct looks with the black hair, as seen in the original book trilogy and possibly also in the Security Logbook. (Also, I think the only way to leave the Old Man Consequences lake area is to drown yourself. Where you go after that, I don't know, but it did show... somewhere else in that FNAF World ending. Maybe Heaven? Maybe not? It kind of looked like a flashing TV/arcade screen behind the figure... or figures? In any case, I'm just saying it's possible she was the one who drowned herself.) Personally, I think they just removed the Cassidy name from the files, because Scott doesn't like doing any big lore reveals in such an open and direct manner. He took down the Cassidy kazoo before, so this is just another instance of him doing that again. (Again, I'm not saying that the Princess is or isn't Cassidy. Just that it looked to me like someone intentionally gave her the "Cassidy" file name, and then was forced to remove it once Scott found out there was a big lore dump done in a blatant manner.) Currently, I'm not even sure yet if William's spirit is still around or not, but the Drowning story (whether a parallel or in the games timeline) makes me think that Cassidy is present. And if she is still around, then William is probably also still around. Anyways, I don't think we'll get a solid answer just yet. We have to wait for more books and games to get a clearer picture of what's going on.

[@SpookyuRetro939]

Thank you for finally someone saying this, I have never really thought it made story sense to have have cassidy as the princess, when the whole story of princess quest is just a retelling of Fnaf Vr: Help Wanted, and even though I dislike the idea of not having actual william afton being here, but it seems story wise that william is still being tortured in hell, or maybe in the end golden freddy leaving into the dark is the end, cassidy, bite victim, and everyone else killed is now finally at rest because cassidy stopped her madness of tormenting william, and is now at rest, letting william too, be at rest, in hell sure, but rest. This allows Help wanted, security breach and everything else in the future(ruin and Help wanted 2 (which I think is going to be a way for steel wool to solve misconceptions in the past 7 games(including fnaf world) and from their new games(help wanted/security breach) to continue the story, in a different and new way.

[@Ideataster]

Part of what I question too is if they ran with "Cassidy" as a folder name because there was several story changes that Scott made throughout the development. (Supposedly it was a lot of radical story changes every few months which made it a bit messy) And they moved the folder name to "Princess" because it was meant to be an allegory for what we call Cassidy, but Scott isn't admitting that the name IS Cassidy since that's basically just one big guess still since the log book clues. So technically it could be an analogy for whatever the spirit is in Golden Freddy, but Scott doesn't want the wrong name associated with it.

[@1987nightrap]

I agree, golden freddy/cassidy is not the princess, it really doesn't work, especially if burntrap is the mimic

[@sarabelle0224]

I don’t know why everyone just ignores the fact that once we found out it the file name was Cassidy they instantly changed it, makes it seem obvious it was a mistake

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

Scott removed Cassidy’s name from a fucking kazoo.

[@onftbb]

Not sure about the theory itself but I think you're right to question the Princess = Cassidy theory.

[@onftbb]

glitchtrap saying "its me" honestly blew my mind. i dont know what to think

[@una6013]

Tbh, I always thought we were playing as vanessa in princess quest

[@wakkaseta8351]

I mean, Glitchtrap being able to pull ghosts into video games doesn't seem any more farfetched than Burntrap being able to hack Glamrock Freddy through a TV screen, sentient robot kids, or super advanced mimicry-bots made by some rando who was somehow as skilled at robotics as Henry and William but never noticed by either.

[@siresquawks]

Yeah, but A: Robot kids have almost no proof anymore, and B: The other examples are cleanly stated and relatively fleshed out, and all are physical tangible things with real mechanics and technology or biology. In terms of absurdity yoinking ghosts into arcades isn't that absurd, but it's completely unprecedented. KingKong teleporting isn't that absurd relative to a giant gorilla fighting a giant plasma breathing lizard, but it's not a power he has. Absurdity isn't proof.

[@wakkaseta8351]

@@siresquawks I'm not saying it's proof, I'm saying that the series has jumped the shark so hard while still being obtuse about any answers that it gives that anything's possible, no matter how contradictory or nonsensical. The princess could be a Fazgoo clone that hopped out of the time travelling ballpit after the the Bobbiedots and Lally decided to have a beach day with the Sea Bonnies for all we know and it still wouldn't be out of place at this point if it turned out to be true because pretty much anything can be answered with "Remnant", "Fazbear Entertainment", or "William did it".

[@TheCollector2401]

Actually the Old Man being OMC does have some merit. At the end of PQ2 he tells the princess "Congratulation! Your quest is done. Time to sleep." This is very similar to the UCN easter egg where he tells Cassidy to "Come and sit with me a while. Leave the demon to his demons. Rest your own soul. There is nothing else." In both quotes he tells the player to rest/sleep, and in both cases you do not. You either drown yourself in the lake or go through the door behind the old man. The ending of PQ2 (imo) is undoubtedly a parallel to the UCN easter egg. As for how Cassidy got to Help Wanted in the first place. Well I assume when William got scanned into VR he took Cassidy with him. Using Fazbear Frights to fill in the gaps (and assuming Andrew is a stand in for Cassidy) we can assume sometime before FNAF 6's fire Cassidy latched onto Williams soul (I personally think it happened after William first got springlocked in FNAF 3) and has been following him ever since he escaped UCN (How he did that I don't know). Now as for why Cassidy isn't able to beat Glitchtrap in PQ1 I think it's because she lacks the sword she obtains in PQ2 and thus can't attack. After she gets the sword she can kill him in PQ3. Also after opening the door Vanessa is locked behind the screen fades to black and we can hear a monstrous scream so I think it actually is implied Cassidy one shots Glitchtrap in the Princess Quest ending. I think Drowning from the new Tales book is hinting at Cassidy needing help but even then that doesn't really explain why she can't move on her own and I don't really have an answer for that outside of gameplay reasons. But then why did the devs remove Cassidy's name from the code of SB? Well considering the condition SB came out in I wouldn't be surprised if the file name was a piece of the puzzle we weren't supposed to have and the devs forgot to remove it. Once it was found they realized they screwed up and deleted it (albeit far too late).

[@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta]

I miss the days when we thought the phone guy was the purple guy.

[@75JUNAKI]

I agree, I never subbed to the theory of Cassidy being the princess. The reason is that the first princess arcade was a retelling of Vanessa in Help Wanted, meeting Mimic1 (Yee, I’m calling it Mimic1). It also says, “I always come back, let me out”, like in the game was about freeing the Mimic1 with the help of Vanessa unintentionally. But I feel you expanded upon this (4:49 - 6:27).

[@plix4348]

Love this channel fr

[@meganwilson8601]

I’m not sure where I am with Cassidy being the Princess, it never fully made sense to me. But I appreciate the more skeptical take on it. I wonder if Steele Wool just ripped the Princess Quest code from the og port files and used them to build off of in SB. Maybe that could explain why the file name was left as “Cassidy” until they updated it. (I do not work with code, so idk if that’s possible, just a thought)

[@FTZPLTC]

The filename change thing really is a smoking gun. Like, if you assume that the character *isn't* supposed to be Cassidy, then someone going in to change the name to not be Cassidy makes total sense - someone spotted a mistake and fixed it. Whereas if they meant for the character to be Cassidy, they hid their clue in the game files, and then hid *that* clue from anyone who didn't look in the game files in time to see it. And what would be the point of that?

[@1Tombb]

Me personally I think Cassidy *is* the princess but the princess could also represent Vanessa while being someone else completely, Steel Wool talked in a interview months later after SB dropped and mentioned how they left some files open and idk, maybe Cassidy being the princess was revealed too early? That's just my opinion and it makes the most sense that it's Cassidy because she's a very important character and I honestly don't know where else she would be and with things like her lighting up 16 candles and "it's me" being in the files, it's hard for me not to believe that it's Cassidy 🤷 and I feel as if Cassie is supposed to represent Cassidy by attempting to save Gregory while Cassidy also saves Vanessa in PQ, Gregory is typically the princess since she doesn't do anything until Greg shows up, but Cassidy imo is the literal princess, and sure the red Old man could be a Zelda parallel but it doesn't mean it can't be him? Steel Wool is creative and probably wanted to officially establish him as an old man 🤷 it's just UCN and Fnaf world all over again, it's most likely OMC and Cassidy imo

[@siresquawks]

Yeah watch the video, because I respond to most of this. They left basically everything else in, even other lore clues and “spoilers”. I don’t think there’s some lore conspiracy where we just can’t know about Cassidy being the princess yet.

[@1Tombb]

But things like "Charlie door" probably mean nothing since the Mimic probably was sent down into the stickynote room 🤷

[@1Tombb]

@@bigbadgammagnome Because it most likely is

[@epicgobbleygourdfan]

Cassideez nuts

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

I think at the very least, at one point it was going to be Cassidy, or atleast not Vanessa. One of Vanessa's removed dialague is "Look I don't know what it is, do you know how many arcade games there are!?" and "Ill find it eventually". This seems to be about the Princess Quest games. Especially given some of the dialogue about them in the messages in SB. So I do think that, at one point, it was going to be explicit that the princess entity was not Vanessa and was some other thing. Sense Vanessa would have been charged with finding these machines. Its also sort of suggested that the Princess entity was looking for someone 'worthy'. Someone who would be able to beat the games and thus be able to help her defeat Glitchtrap. These are some of the messages you can find from a former employee. So there is definitely something up with the princess specifically, its not just a video game. "EXIT INTERVIEW - They are working together. The arcades. They are hiding something. The glitches. Glitch them all at the same time… then the Princess will recognise me. She’s testing me. I am not yet worthy. The others are protecting it. Let me stay! I am so close! Just one more night, please! I can save the Princess! I did it!. I did what you wanted! I beat parts 1 and 2. Why won't you turn on? What else is there? Tell me!"

[@CinemaSans]

Thank You for making this video. The identity of the Princess has been crystal clear since Security Breach released, but then people started overanalyzing everything, looking at the tiniest details often while ignoring evidences and what we already know and making theories about bringing back old characters, because for some reason most people can't accept that the series is heading in the new direction, they desperately want characters from old games to return (some people still think Mimic is Afton). Princess being Cassidy instead of representing Vanessa is one of the worst Security Breach theories I've seen, because she's obviously representing Vanessa, in the game focused on Vanessa. You are honestly the only good English speaking FNaF theorist.

[@thedenofbeasts8251]

THE biggest issue(s) fnaf fans have is making an echo chamber and absolutely murdering anyone who says the slightest difference and supergluing themselves to the smallest of things. The community needs to realize this is no longer an indie franchise, it stopped being one when steelwool fully took over.

[@problempal5395]

One addition to 13:22 is that it could be argued that these games are actually a nod to FNAF VR. The girl is stuck in a vr game, princess quest was originally from vr, there's the corn maze, and there's several parts that could be argued to be 'collecting all the treasure'.

[@siresquawks]

Kinda. But wouldn’t that make Kara the princess and Drowning Girl Glitchtrap?

[@problempal5395]

@@siresquawks no that's not the claim I'm making, I'm just saying it could be a nod to FNAF VR, not that it is or is a parallel to FNAF VR or something

[@loganentertainment1814]

It could be that Cassidy was the princess, because the original game file for the princess was Cassidy, but it was changed. So it’s hard to say if the princess IS still Cassidy. Still, I’m wondering if we’ll still see more of the princess in the future? 🤔

[@flare0080]

Those flickering flames at 16:22 should come with a seizure warning.

[@siresquawks]

yeah, they ended up being faster than I meant

[@InternetFanatic]

I hope nothing bad happens to Golden Freddy because I really just want Cassidy to be just stay in 1- UCN and not be involved in HW and I’ll talk about and plus, Cassidy being in SB is just forced and dumb and it also damages something I like to think about UCN, a meta narrative I really like the “semi-meta-narrative” of UCN where it’s just Cassidy refusing to let go of her vengeance towards Afton and Old Man Consequences saying that you should rest your own soul and that there’s nothing else is to me, a parallel to the player playing these games (I just pretend that’s the case because more games) by continuing to play UCN, you having Cassidy continue to torture Afton and not move on, YOU ARE CASSIDY and you aren’t moving on from FNAF and considering that the image in drowning ending of FNAF World has the image titled happiest day and that in UCN, it crashes the game, Cassidy is moving on and that the player (unless if they boot up the game again) has moved on and let the story finally end

[@BelleVEX]

What I like most about you is that you’re not opposed to being an antagonistic individual. It’s always a breath of fresh air. That said, in terms of the book reference to the video games goals, it’s a one to one in this case. Other goals and terms could’ve been used like “defeat the boss”, “free the captives”, and “extort capitalism”. I think you might’ve inadvertently struck gold and found an answer to another theory in another part of this vid without realizing.

[@siresquawks]

Not really. There’s not really treasure to collect in princess quest unless you count the mask and plush. And the maze is debatable. And the connection honestly doesn’t make Cassidy drowning girl anyways (a problem I had I forgot to bring up in the video), and the context of the page really doesn’t fit for any theory I’ve seen it applied to.

[@BelleVEX]

@@siresquawks there’s plenty that akin to treasure in the mini games, however, my point was that “Princess Quest” was the reference. Not that it was saying “Cassidy is the princess”. I agree with your points in the vid, except that one. Books are “tell me what you see” vs visual media being “show don’t tell”.

[@Starving_indev]

Cassidy is such a strange concept at this point, honestly If she's still around as a spirit - means Henry's plan failed and more spirits could have survived (including William) - the idea that FNaF community hates whole-heartedly and refuses to even consider as something else rather than "Steel Wolf write bad", even though it has a lot of evidence in the FNaF lore prior to Help Wanted. And if she is rested, then why are talking about her? And is she is reatrd - means nothing holds William hostage, no one is tormenting him, so he could easily return. The simple idea of Cassidy in any way, shape or from contridicts the idea of William being in hell in UCN -> it's simply not hell, it's a nightmerish coma (and, yes, this is the second (if not the third) time I've brought that up in the comment section).

[@Starving_indev]

@@sunnyisabunny1479 yeah, I agree to the last detail

[@iamspringtrap223]

Security Breach: No, definitely not. Help Wanted: Maybe

[@Xainos28]

10:23 While the first encounter with old man can be a reference to Zelda, it's the second encounter which gives more linking to Old man Consequences, he says your job it done go rest, a mirroring to what OMC says to Cassidy "Leave the demon to his demos, come rest your soul" and like cassidy, the princess ignores his saying and pushes on to follow. Plus the song for Princess quest is "Caught in a loop" a reference of keeping Cassidy trapped in the first game till someone helps her break out.

[@siresquawks]

I just disagree with this completely. Caught in a loop also applies to Vanny so it's not proof. And the narrative is clunky as all hell. "Rest your soul." (Cassidy doesn't) "actually, now that you're trapped in an arcade game take this sword. Fight evil." (Does so). "Cool, now that you've only fought off SOME of the evil, stay here and rest, don't free yourself." OMC gives terrible advice under this narrative.

[@Xainos28]

@@siresquawks because she is the vengeful spirit, of course she would follow cause she would never let go of afton, omc tried to tell her to let go of him but she doesn't, so yes, the UCN lines he says do match what old man says in pq.

[@siresquawks]

@@Xainos28 No they really don't. Because he says to fight evil, then randomly tells her to stop halfway through her journey. How is being trapped in an arcade game "rest" in the same way it is in UCN? Giving up Tormenting Afton to free your soul is completely different than "Let the killer mind stealing Virus keep kipping and mind stealing.".

[@Xainos28]

@@siresquawks maybe it plays out golden freddy, out of all the haunted animatronics, puppet and GF has unique powers to them but it's never explained how they got their powers, perhaps old man is showing he gave her the power as shown through the sword

[@YourMid740]

So wait, the Princess isn’t meant to be anyone? Just our avatar to freeing Vanny?

[@siresquawks]

Basically. Maybe it *is* Vanny but it’s a same difference kind of thing.

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

@@siresquawks I said this in a comment, but I should this atleast is not true. The messages you can find in PQ make it fully explicit that 'the princess' is its own entity and is simply trying to find someone worthy of helping it defeat Glitchtrap. Regardless of if its Cassidy or not, its not just a video game with symbolism, it is its own person.

[@aromaladyellie]

I like the idea of OMC being OM, but that he’s an omnipresent being across the digital dimension. Cuz he does appear in the surface world in UCM, allowing you to catch a fish, and you still seem to be in some kind of digital hell. He isn’t a bringer of consequences. He tells the Drowning Bear to “leave the demon to his demons”. He’s more of a helpful entity I think than just a man who brings consequences. He guides people into avoiding the same fate as William. But I’ve never subscribed to the idea the Princess is Cassidy. She’s a manifestation of Vanessa’s free will trapped in the digital world from when she was masquerading as an IT tech after working on FNAF VR

[@Glitchberry]

.....wasn't this already solved?-

[@GreatRaijin]

Now this is how you open people's mind with different interpretations, great video as usual

[@habstab6551]

I mean... This is probably a stupid idea, but: If the Old Man is meant to represent Old Man Consequences (a theory I'm very iffy on about that's to their different designs and the fact he goes from offering a sword to telling her to stop), is it possible the second Old Man is a fake? Like, if Glitchtrap is 100% the Mimic, with not a single shred of William's soul inside of it, wouldn't it be possible for him to try and, well, mimic the Old Man that gave the Princess a sword in an attempt to stop her? Like, if he wanted to stop her, it would make sense for Glitchtrap to try and create a fake ending so the Princess would drop her guard. (Of course, you could argue that the second Old Man's line is too similar to what OMC says in UCN, but... Honestly, that's a major can of worms that could be its own theory) Honestly, there's probably a big theory to be made around OMC and the Old Man from Security Breach. Not just a "are they the same character?" theory, but one that actually dives right into what the OMC is? Is he just another lost soul? Is he literally the embodiment of the concept of consequences? And, if the latter, are there other "Old Men Concepts" out there?

[@JosRocks410]

honestly, in my eyes, it makes like 0 sense that it could possibly be Cassidy Then again I believe that all of Fazbear Frights & Tales:FTPP are canon sooooo

[@SleepySeal121]

I’m not sure which side I’m leaning towards. On one hand, the Cassidy file name was changed to princess. But on the other hand, Chica and those graves only really fit if it IS Cassidy.

[@CamKoudo]

9:58 Link: "hold on that's not a sword it's your ____ in disguise!"

[@jsj0520]

As a game dev myself I will say, using file names or just raw code in general as “proof” for theories is EXTREMELY unreliable. Sure when Scott edited the code of his website during the original 6 games that was absolutely intentional, he was a solo developer and in turn has far greater control over what he wants the audience to see. But an entire studio being coordinated enough? Not gonna happen. Even if everyone knew about every detail during the development process from all the different teams, level designer, audio, writers, gameplay designer, voice directors etc… even in that perfect scenario there is no way that someone forgot to change a file name if plans changed or just misinterpreted something entirely or hell even named some of those things on purpose just to throw people off the trail. Never expect answers from code & file names. That stuff is way too unreliable. What the devs show you in game is the story they decided on. Again if it is a purposeful ARG like how Scott did it then sure take that extra info. I don’t blame anyone or criticize theorists for latching onto it though due to Scott’s previous ARGs and the fact that SB is such a confusing mess due to the insane amount of scrapped ideas and cut content.

[@emily-jayne07]

Dude I love the thumbnail

[@Wolfmansgeneralchannel]

Okay so I’m not the only one who’s objecting to such a questionable theory, good to know at least

[@reggilad_9043]

This aged shockingly well, ruin implies princess quest has nothing to do with cassidy so yay (also it ironicaly implies the "true ending" isnt the burnetrap ending", its the princess quest ending)

[@laraschroeder5195]

7:04 OHHH THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!! This is the type of connection that makes me feel like I'm having a brain blast that was so GOOD!! I fully believe that to be the case now!!

[@GTSFANDM]

According to the FNAF lore, Cassidy is Golden Freddy. And she attached her soul to Afton's so he couldn't die and get let off easy. So, that being said, I can see her following Afton into the system and then into Vanessa's body via the VR training simulator. I can see Princess Quest as being Vanessa's story with how Cassidy is trying to lend her power to fight off Afton's influence. Vanessa-the Princess. Cassidy-the lantern/the sword. Afton-the amalgamation virus. Does that make sense?

[@edenengland1883]

the princess not being Cassidy is fine overall, but the princess realistically shouldn't be able to be Vanessa either since.. well, guiding Vanessa's soul to the outside of the location where Vanessa's soul is contained within so she can, from the outside, open the door behind which Vanessa's soul is contained... I don't think I have to explain why the logic for that is weird, Vanessa's soul would have to be freed in order for Vanessa's soul to free Vanessa's soul, it's like Luigi saving Luigi in Mario Galaxy, there both needs to be two of the same entity and for one of them to have already been freed somehow another thing to note that doesn't really serve as evidence for or against anything, third parties being able to directly assist or empower souls is something set up in FNAF 3 where the player assists the Puppet in bringing about the Happiest Day, and again in FNAF World where the clock ending is only accessible due to *us* (in universe as a living human that isn't just a soul) controlling Freddy, so Cassidy theoretically needing our direct help doesn't actually create a plothole

[@TheoryChum]

I still think it's highly possible Jeremy is BalloonBoy in the arcade. Even if as you say you take out Cassidy and assume Mimic is the Glitchtrap, it would still be the Mimic holding tape girl in the arcade game. Which Tape Girl was swapped and taken in VR in Help Wanted. Which means souls trapped in the VR got repurposed as arcade games. If you look at both character entries of Glitchtrap, he's confirmed to be in "The Prankster", and since only one part has reality warping values and an electronic voice, it'd have to be the part where things go crazy in Prank. It would also associate if Vanny is trapped and put into VR, and we assume Jeremy is trapped in the very same VR, their souls would end up in the same place. Both arcade games. Not to mention I think the Game Over Room saying Remember Jeremy and the end result of the BalloonBoyWorld Easter egg is a game over screen, is another sign that Jeremy is still around and important.

[@son5094]

love the video. but in a different note be careful with the lightning in 16:22 it was genuinley headache inducing, but overall jeez man your editing is getting better and better, love the videos!!

[@siresquawks]

My bad, glad you enjoyed the rest of the video!

[@CinemaSans]

People say the Princess cannot be Vanessa because she's at the different side of the door than Vanessa was in Help Wanted... yeah, I guess people just forgot that minigame sprites are rarely accurate at all in FNaF, and Princess Quest minigame is symbolic.

[@Wizardjones69]

im really like the theory that vengeful spirit and you shoundt killed are different people is true, the vengeful is andrew that still torturing the real willian in ucn, but cassidy give up in old man consequences minigame, and the princess is more obvius to be vanessa because blond hair and attacking a ai that mimick people

[@Wizardjones69]

and ucn photo from vengeful spirit is from a boy so fnaf lore is a big XD

[@Wizardjones69]

it's me thing is not just with golden freddy, in fnaf 3 in the rare screens appears IT'S ME with springtrap images

[@Wizardjones69]

the graves can be of: cassidy, andrew, fritz, gabriel, susie, jeramy

[@melancholy394]

What if Cassidy is just the person that played the game

[@siresquawks]

? We see it's Gregory at the end.

[@insomnia5354]

also glitchtrap saying "its me" calls back to how springtrap says quotes from ucn since he's died over and over he's heard these quotes a lot and since Cassidy was torturing William why not quote that

[@Grimkeeper17]

Cassidy? Andrew? Golden Freddy? Shadow Bonnie? Princess Quest? Girl? Boy? Convoluted? Lazy? You decide!

[@75JUNAKI]

Mr.Hippo, that makes complete sense.

[@TheFirstRamenKamen]

ok. whom did u main in smash 4 be honest

[@siresquawks]

Shulk

[@DerpaTure9503]

Cassidy does seemingly kill Glitchtrap in the 3 star ending. Not only is Vanny freed, but all the Staff Bots infected by him shut down. And the Old Man does seem to connect to OMC more strongly than you make it out to be. He tells us to rest at the end of PQ2, which we ignore to chase Glitchtrap, and he's even introduced in a room with a lake in it. The line in Drowning is indeed just an analogy, but I think the fact that the analogy of "save the princess" was used here (especially when it barely matches the events in the story) is telling. That line has been used to refer to Princess Quest before too, with the duffel bag messages in SB featuring an employee that's desperate to save the princess. The Drowned Girl is also shown to be someone who died in an older time period so her just being a representation of guilt or straight up being Peggy doesn't work. Finally, if the Princess is Vanessa, doesn't this raise a pretty big issue? We open the door to free her from the opposite side of where she was locked, implying that the Princess isn't Vanessa, she's just the player character we're using to free her. but the duffel bag messages from the insane employee make it clear that she is some kind of sentient entity.

[@Charles10019]

I think i must have missed something cause who the heck are kara and peggy? 11:57

[@siresquawks]

book BS

[@whats_it_worth]

you know the "true ending burn trap" is probably also crap info that someone on the port team thought was true. in fact it might be like that with other thinks as well and only cassidy was changed because scott has a rule about the name cassidy not being used multible times. honestly i think the only character pre ucn who is in the new fnaf lore is phone dude as the ceo of fazbear at least that one has actual evidence outside of GREEN

[@ZirconiaGacha]

I currently think it's a mix of the two. It is Cassidy freeing Vanessa, but the reason she can't just do that is that this isn't just another spirit she's dealing with. It's a computer virus so she somehow needs to go digital, but when she does she can't progress without someone else helping out, and even then she can't just KILL the virus. It's out there in other places too and is probably still spreading, so taking care of the biggest "clump" of it (being Vanessa under its control) just makes sense. Cassidy just needs to find the next one or something, but I wouldn't take this as fully canon or anything. I still don't quite know what to settle on for what the heck Princess Quest even is quite yet. EDIT: You know what? You bringing up the whole "people want more about Golden Freddy and Cassidy and so they get it" thing made me think a bit. We have the Ruin trailer where it's Gregory talking to Cassie. I HOPE TO GOD that it's just something mimicking him, because if it isn't there's only two or three real options: he's actually trapped somewhere in the Pizzaplex that looks like it's been left alone for months, he's back under Glitchtrap's control somehow for some reason, or (skeptical on this one in particular) he's dad and figured out a way to communicate with Cassie but doesn't realize/doesn't want to tell her that he's dead. If it's that second one, I'm concerned it's Steel Wool giving the people what they want, for better or for worse. I think it would be worse. Since I'm considering the Vanny Redeemed ending canon (Pizzaplex seems to collapse in the Burntrap Ending and there is no way it could be in such... good? quality compared to Ruin if that ending was canon), it would mean Gregory is basically a hero: he did something amazing for even one person, and fought against what's essentially a digital eldritch god. Making him under its control again could only work one way and it's him getting completely freed at the end, but at least don't have him be a permanent villain if he is a bad guy in Ruin. But I know a bunch of vocal people who hate Gregory and honestly I don't want too much fuel on the fire for that. Especially since Glitchtrap, Mimic or otherwise, is still an incarnation of Afton.

[@ddaeby]

dude....... genuinely no offense to every other theory i've consumed or believed in, but watching this has made me feel so goddamn stupid LMFAO this makes SO much more sense, from a narrative and technical standpoint, that it makes me wonder how ive never seen anything like this prior ?

[@apineapple3177]

Everybody is wrong about princess quest it’s actually a girl who is made out of exotic butter

[@apineapple3177]

@@RavenZombieX bro it was a joke

[@apineapple3177]

@@RavenZombieX 💀

[@apineapple3177]

@@RavenZombieX why are you looking for my comment that’s mad weird

[@apineapple3177]

@@RavenZombieX yeah I randomly found your comment you were going out of your way to find my comment that’s a difference

[@apineapple3177]

@@RavenZombieX oh wait no silly me it was just such a coincidence that you just randomly stumbled upon this four hours after I made fun of you goofy me what a coincidence

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

I'm convinced that Cassidy is intended to be a male by Scott because of lines from UCN and the fact that he used a photoshopped picture of his son for Cassidy

[@smt64productions40]

Unless TOYSNHK and Cassidy are separated entities

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

@@smt64productions40 I doubt it

[@FNAFFan939]

If Scott intended Cassidy to be a male, then I'm pretty sure she would be a boy in the novels

[@Mandalore_ultimate]

@@FNAFFan939 It's a different kid named Cassidy in the novels who possessed Bonnie. Scott reuses names all the time for example Jeremy and Fritz.

[@FNAFFan939]

@@Mandalore_ultimate How is she a different kid when she literally has the exact same role as all the other MCI kids

[@rad1165]

Cassie dlc ruin sounds like a name nickname short for Cassidy they're almost spelled the same weird coincidence I think Cassidy is the princess or maybe is new DLC girl cassie is a reincarnation of Cassidy it would make sense to me Cassidy also said it me the you shouldn't have killed but this is a theory/opinion idk?? we'll have to see when the game comes out 🙃 Also the princess could be Vanessa/vanny to

[@existentialselkath1264]

So what your saying is... Vannessa is Cassidy? Right?... Right?!

[@siresquawks]

Obviously

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@siresquawks great, just checking 😄

[@zenvariety9383]

Pretty sure the princess from Princess Quest is Vanessa.

[@theftking]

I was convinced that Cassidy wasn't the princess the moment Steel Wool updated Security Breach to change the name of the folder with her sprites from CASSIDY to PRINCESS. There'd be no point in doing that to try and hide the fact that the princess _is_ a representation of Cassidy; we had _already found it._ I think it's way more likely they changed that _because_ we found it and because they realized it was _misleading._ Probably just a random holdover from earlier in development maybe.

[@apineapple3177]

Shut up