this video needs to be seen by more people in the hobby. that thing is quick though even on 3s. but shouldnt be limited on 6s, that really is bullshit. wont be buying a mamba x
@shanejetton57828 жыл бұрын
I think that castle is trying to be more like Tekin and what I mean by that is have a more smoother running ESC more for off-road vehicles and like my grandpa always told me (if it's not broke then don't fix it) they are known for their power .We can buy bullshit anywhere but its hard to find a good powerful ESC
@highhorseexpress3018 жыл бұрын
Time to salute MMM's running 1.24 with no current limit and just as smooth as MMX from dead stop
@99ville4 жыл бұрын
If these aren’t any good what should I get
@haydnholder70903 жыл бұрын
Hopfully they fixed that four years later just ordered one
@DonaldByrd19708 жыл бұрын
Hell at this point the only option is to use the heli esc's and use manual brakes. Damn shame, makes no sense to try to save on warranty claims by limiting power output n higher cells. Most people use CASTLE because they were always known for their BALLS to the WALL output power. But they want the sane amount of money or more for those X esc's. Good video of pointing this out Mr. Steele.
@derjoh19868 жыл бұрын
same here..
@markamd15 жыл бұрын
revert to Firmware V1.78...Problem solved :)
@CmwSpeedrunUk3 жыл бұрын
I admire your honesty bro
@robertabrams914 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info...I subbed. Can I ask you a question...I have a arrma kraton and my esc finally went out. I just so happen to have a sidewinder 8th scale esc on hand .. wondering if I can use it in my kraton? Any info will help. I was figuring may with the 12 or 13 tooth pinion would be ok until my Max 6 comes. Thanks.
@DangerDavefpv8 жыл бұрын
great comments and glad to see your warning us all.. thanks nick
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
Great vid Nick! I had horrible results with the pussy ass XLX too. Full throttle feels like half throttle. Data logs for my 6s Cordova motor only showed 2 HP and 111 amps. Switched to a XL2 and power immediately jumped to 10.2 HP and pulled 361 amps! Same car, batteries, gears, everything! Castle tech support told me to email them my logs. 5 emails later and no response. I know they dont like people doing speed runs with their products but we are spending the most money. In the last year and a half I've purchased at least 15-20 Castle ESCs, at least 10 motors, and a ton of other accessories and this is how they treat their best customers?! FUCK CASTLE!!
@Rcman12238 жыл бұрын
got any burnt ones
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
+Rcman1223 Theres no way these things will fry since they limit the power so severely. Damn near bulletproof lol
@Rcman12238 жыл бұрын
+BAY AREA FAST RC u have any old ones that are no good ...lol....I'll take them
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
+Rcman1223 I got a couple bad xl2s but the soldier pad for the onboard caps were ripped off the board so they aint usable any more.
@JaegerWrenching8 жыл бұрын
I'm a basher type of RC guy who just so happens to like going fast and man that is some bull shit about those ESC's i mean it's honestly laughable at how much slower that is, great vid man thanks for your effors in swapping parts to show us the bull shit.
@04toys8 жыл бұрын
I knew it would come to this. I'm glad I have 10xl2's already. They can change the firmware if they want to.
@charleyjoseph12862 жыл бұрын
What firmware you running on the xl2?
@customfastrc76718 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time out of your day to pass on the knowledge BRO. good lookin out.
@rpmerevob45138 жыл бұрын
thank for the video brother keep doing your thing
@supadavee308 жыл бұрын
I use to run castle, i no longer use them for this same issue. i now run a trackstar from hobbyking in my 1/5.
@streetdreamz80568 жыл бұрын
wow that's crazy. castle definitely messing up. now that got me thinking. thanks for this vid Raw!
@technibumpinnovations76807 жыл бұрын
On the old Monster and XL2 you can roll back the update to 124 and it has a current limit that you can turn off for unlimited power! You can do it on the new Monster X, but castle is working on programming that you can roll back the firmware to that 124 update! Hope this helps you guys! I got that info from Joe at Castle!
@hempressjessi37748 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video bro you now save me some money here in Canada that ESC sell for over 300$
@jammer21508 жыл бұрын
Wow purchased two of the mm x last month for a couple 6s off road builds, already installed them, what to do now, Shitty move castle. Maybe run the lipos in nimh mode with low voltage alarm which should leave the power flood gates wide open I wonder if that would bypass what castle has done ?..........Maybe I will just use them in my crawler / trail rigs
@JMSpeck8 жыл бұрын
Appreciate!! Thanks for the info brother .. We need the power to get them big numbers.. RCFL thumbs up
@JMSpeck8 жыл бұрын
That's some crazy shit .. Speechless .. RCFL
@tinsleysmith23058 жыл бұрын
That's crazy bro I can really see the difference between 3s and 6s well I guess I'll start looking at hobbywing again awesome video 👍👍
@derjoh19868 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge, Steel.
@DrLucifer19798 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks for posting and getting this discussion going!
@2cwik4u1048 жыл бұрын
great info vid Nick. really sucks what castle has done.
@AndrewFerranRcjourneyz8 жыл бұрын
That's raw thanks for the info. I've got a HOBBYWING r8 150@ ESC on my Redcat buggy and it's scary!!! I'll show u soon enough
@RICHIE_RICH892 ай бұрын
Did they ever fix this issue . I seen you take off faster on 4 s then 6. I have a new one in the box a xlx i thought they fixed it but i cant remember id like to use it. I may get a max 5g2 hv or a max 4
@WaynePeeples8 жыл бұрын
Nice vid...ill run any castle without the X!!
@rodrigomincoff98908 жыл бұрын
What about the mamba x?
@rbhattigaming37517 жыл бұрын
Aye man I had 3 side winder 3 esc and all of them set on fire
@TargetingXmod_RC8 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain! Those X's and Monster sticker aren't the advertised... :P Got Castles that go silent for no aparent reason... when other Chinas are still going strong!! :P But by the way, have checked if the X's have torque limit active or something? I guess that's just a firmware thing...they made 6s or 8s for the masses, and the ESC's will cut half of power to survive! :P bahhhhhhhhhh. They will lose customers doing their stuff like this and like that....
@natemorte8 жыл бұрын
Good to know on the MGM I was wondering why there wasn't any speedrunner using them. Thought it was pretty much the price tag. That's why I never liked the X0-1 or anything that's locked out. You buy it you own it ,it's yours to do what you want with it. None of this asking permission BS.
@WIGSPLITTERSRC8 жыл бұрын
please castle put it back the way it was it sucks BAD!!! thank you for making this vid nick someone had to goade it was you👍👍👍
@highhorseexpress3018 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Just like the good ol MMM v3 with v1.24 without any current limit
@byronmorris63788 жыл бұрын
I've been running the Hobbywing Max6 (3-8s) and its a beast.......thanks for the vid.
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
My recent experience with Hobbywing Max 5 3-8s esc was wack too. Power cuts out after 1 or 2 seconds of full throttle. HW tech support said the esc goes into a safty mode if you run more than 1000kv on 8s and 1600kv is max for 6s. SMH
@haywoodjablowmee11228 жыл бұрын
+BAY AREA FAST RC Damn !!!! That's no good !
@derjoh19868 жыл бұрын
+BAY AREA FAST RC Now, i didn't know that and I purchased 4 of them 6 months ago. End up selling one of the unused esc's. No complaints from the person who bought it as of yet and it's been a few months now. Good to know!
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
+Killamoves 0104 Hobbywing is a joke too. I seen maybe 1 car ever go fast with their esc.
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
+derjoh1986 No prob man. I was really hoping the Hobbywing and XLX was good. Now I'm stuck with a couple of paper weights. $100 each shipped if anyone interested in a couple slightly used ESCs lol
@rocbud438 жыл бұрын
Dang Mr. Nick thats crazy bro... so basically a waste of money!!! Thanks for the heads up bro..
@bryan52838 жыл бұрын
learn it now b4 i go spendin my cheeze...got a bunch of traxxas cars but the buggies is where its at...appreciate the knowledge
@1320em18 жыл бұрын
i knew the x was fucked up good info homie
@MrEpicLion8 жыл бұрын
Are these tests on the current limiting setting disabled? I guess they lied about the current limiting feature on the xlx castle link being accurate? It shouldn't be :(
@tabdougherty85494 жыл бұрын
sO i WAS REALLY TRYING TO BUY THE mmx2 CASTLE FOR MY TRAXXAS PAIRED WITH A 1515 If I could have found one from a good seller I would have paid top dollar, but the supply chain is fer shit so I got a hobbywing instead. I think I dodged a bullet after watching this.
@killamods87668 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@rcjer64734 жыл бұрын
In conclusion what esc should I put in my limitless with my tp 4070 kill mode x spec . You da man bro
@gert36748 жыл бұрын
So the Mamba Monster X is also affected? This sucks. Patrick del Castillo said on different forums that the Monster X can handle more power than the MM2. And now this? That's ridiculous, they should fix this ASAP.
@highhorseexpress3018 жыл бұрын
It can't. Castle tech even said it has the same thermal capacity as the old one, meaning they are rated identically. cont 120 amps burst 300 amps
@jess347538 жыл бұрын
nice vid
@rodrigomincoff98908 жыл бұрын
I am about to buy a combo for my E revo. I am between the mamba 2 and the mamba x, which one should I get?
@json2166 жыл бұрын
Ok..I hope you can help cause no one else has...I run the 5th scale xl2 system in a redcat 1/5..on 8s...freaking rips...but it keeps puffing batteries..Traxxas..lectron pro..and floureons (they were free)...what lipo do you suggest..I'm looking at smc 90c..or gens ace 50c now...just want two good lasting lipos
@johngalluzzo46387 жыл бұрын
what do you think about the new hobbywing 5th scale speed controller
@PUTZERFI6 жыл бұрын
Hello from Germany, I have a question about the max voltage Ripples. I use a MMX in a X-Maxx (6s) and I have max Ripples up to 3,8V. I use a Castle cappack. I see that you have higher max Ripples. Do the Capacitors reduce the Ripples? ... or do more Capacitors only protect the ESC that these higher Ripples dont overheat the ESC? Or do I think too much about this thing? ;) I have 145A Max current and about 3200W max Power.
@feliciano13588 жыл бұрын
Cool vid thanks for letting us know. I was going to get a Mamba Monster X for my slash speed but if that's the case then MM2 might be the way for me to go
@Chaseblackburn77 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I had all those
@redbull20078 жыл бұрын
so which esc i need to get now to those spped all crap except xl2 and now its discouinted, any news?
@donniep908 жыл бұрын
that shit is sad man ...thanks for letting us know ..👊
@etab838 жыл бұрын
That's some real talk. Anyone who is in the speed game just put there shit up for sale on eBay lol.
@rcneverdie42878 жыл бұрын
Helpful
@woodluv705 жыл бұрын
You provide some good info thanks for that but this video is about 2 yrs old do you think castle has gotten away from limiting the power or have you found a way to bypass that at all with the xl x thanks in advance.
@nashkwalaz13525 жыл бұрын
They fixed it now there is an update
@ttgracing58274 жыл бұрын
Did you try the 160 esc
@Elimoore4gtv8 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro I have that esc..
@tavaristeja8 жыл бұрын
Wow
@tuffguy405 жыл бұрын
What the best firmware to us on the xlx
@MrTakedown6628 жыл бұрын
Nice vid bro and thanks for the info
@rhampton19148 жыл бұрын
My XL2 just caught on a fire...i have a HPI Baja 5b Flux...should i get another XL2 or should i get the newer one....i don't mind replacing it...i don't know what happened but i was in parking lot just driving and all of a sudden it just caught on fire...please advise
@GARRYEASTON8 жыл бұрын
+rhampton1914 Castle are working on a firmware update for the XLX, hopefully soon. Which batteries and motor are you using? you got any logs from previous runs?
@rhampton19148 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply...i did end up getting the XLX newer version on my Baja Flux...i haven't noticed to much of a difference in speed....seems the same...i never did any Logs before...but i should Start...lol....Your pretty Fortunate to have the XL2 not give you any problems...I'm sure it's a great esc...the XLX seems to be working fine...i just got a Losi 5T Roller and i plan on using the 2028 & XLX combo in that with a 6s...
@andrewsouthern94266 жыл бұрын
Hey rawsteele I've been watching your vids trying to decide on the best esc for 100mph rustler all I need is to figure wether to go with mmx or just spend a little extra for the Xbox xl2 I've got it all done except this I did the all aluminum application i would definitely like your opinion thanks for the vids
@rawsteele6 жыл бұрын
mmx well work find
@rcclipsenyc38047 жыл бұрын
i see you made this video last year, have they fixed this issue yet?
@lightningdad138 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video. you just saved me some coins. looking at buying the momba monster X today but decided to go with momba monster 2. MUCH RESPECT TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO!
@SurvDC8 жыл бұрын
whats the next best esc?
@DIAZ-cd8kc8 жыл бұрын
Hey brother great video. Have you heard from castle? are they going to fix the problem?
@mosests37 жыл бұрын
What would be comparable to the xl2
@DanPRC8 жыл бұрын
Damn...that's crazy
@roynelson76138 жыл бұрын
that was a trip man
@prentissalford8 жыл бұрын
Nice bruh thanks for the info
@rcalltypes82306 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, l almost bought one. Not now what a joke!
@rawsteele6 жыл бұрын
Rcalltypes Nothing wrong with the ESC it was fix about a year ago
@TpPartsRcXtreme8 жыл бұрын
awsome vid mate, very sad to see this. mostly next product will be better..and then its not..sucks. i must say the X on 3s what a difference....and then the. Beefy Xl2...omxg!!...👊😆 xlx..im just quiet as a mouse 😦
@TargetingXmod_RC8 жыл бұрын
Rock Crawler speeds!! LOL!! Now one question.... have you checked the top speed or only aceleration? I guess the higher voltages on firmware will become simulating a "gas" clutch in aceleration, which is a good thing for offroad powerhouses, but top speed should be the same... or top speed is CUT to? If top speed is cuted it's a melon, allright! Also check with lower kv motor's...it could be that firmware see's to much KV and cut's the head right away!!
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
I checked both I could get no acceleration or top speed
@potjnkye868 жыл бұрын
my xlx in my x-maxx runs better than my buddies xl-2 X-maxx. is anyone doing the firmware update first cause I stay away from firmware updates. but my xlx rips shit up and my buddies struggles to keep up that has the xl-2.
@AndrewMurphy83834 жыл бұрын
maybe you need to change the gearing if it slow with 6 s
@robertkotevski96498 жыл бұрын
crazy vid 👍
@DangerDavefpv8 жыл бұрын
wish cordova made esc im glad i just got xl2 original version
@THouse-md1hy8 жыл бұрын
hey i really like your video i did not know that take away the power so what now what is the best speed control I can get that doesn't have this problem because I have a Arrma talion so please help
@reginaalsobrooks63358 жыл бұрын
Great vid hopefully castle will fix this shit!
@serpent977e7 жыл бұрын
wow very fast!!
@buve3746 жыл бұрын
What’s the last firmware on the xl2
@GARRYEASTON8 жыл бұрын
Any news from Castle
@THouse-md1hy7 жыл бұрын
hey i would like to know how did they fix your problem with the speed control because I need help to
@rawsteele7 жыл бұрын
T.House give castle a call
@rccustom67268 жыл бұрын
Hey Rawsteele, I called Castle creations today about this problem that we been having with these XL-X ESC's and the guy told me that they are working on a programming like the Castle link and they will be finish with it this week and also said that it WILL be faster than the XL-2 esc. For more info let me know bro
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
you are late bro they already did updates
@rccustom67268 жыл бұрын
When?
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
+RC CUSTOM last week and I posted a new video early today
@rccustom67268 жыл бұрын
But I just called today and they told me they will be done this week,
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
+RC CUSTOM it's already done you can go download it now
@RydinginStyle725 жыл бұрын
So all the green ones are monster 2? That's the good one?
@bryan52838 жыл бұрын
good demo i dont understand it all yet. i see what your doing though...theyre regulating the esc....hmmmm
@818sfastestrc8 жыл бұрын
This sucks, great info brother! I was about to buy a xlx but just gonna stick to the xl2 for now
@philipjolley10158 жыл бұрын
+Miltdoggie Salamanca yeah dont get a xlx..
@QTR4028 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem I do not know what is the solution
@armenvegas7 жыл бұрын
so as of 2-27-2017... still not worth getting the xlx? thanks
@rawsteele7 жыл бұрын
they fix the esc last year
@armenvegas7 жыл бұрын
Rawsteele thank you. Is it as good as the XL 2?
@JameyCampbell_547 жыл бұрын
Any update raw?? Bama boys here
@sattam318 жыл бұрын
Amazing video amazing car do you have Instagram? What's this car? I want a car for dreg race? Can you help me out
@armenvegas7 жыл бұрын
how the hell is 3s running way faster than 6s?
@MrNothinbutscanners8 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to download any of the older firmware files I just went out for a run and 4s full of power and on 6s nothing this is messed up man we just got some nice weather here today and no power this is sad I just sent castle an email on this matter I hope they release a fix for this
@GARRYEASTON8 жыл бұрын
+Jorge Piedade For which Esc?
@MrNothinbutscanners8 жыл бұрын
+G-EASTON For mamba monster two would love to revert to the previous version car will not put down good on 6s just tried a few cars that I updated
@thomaskibsgaard46927 жыл бұрын
Hey man. looks lige you know alot about theese escs. I have an XL2 that got shorted out by a bad soder on a connection. now it runs very wierd. and some smoke has come out of it. Do you know if it can be fixed?
@rawsteele7 жыл бұрын
Thomas Kibsgaard you probably should send that into castle , I do not work on them nor do I work for them i'm just a customer myself, sorry I couldn't help
@thomaskibsgaard46927 жыл бұрын
okay:) no problem man. thx for replying tho:)
@JoseJimenez-bj7ol7 жыл бұрын
for whath you invesment monei is you mont 7700 3s in traxxas slash an toch 130mph
@streamalexander68048 жыл бұрын
where did you buy it from? could it be a fake that your bought?
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
This is the real deal no fake
@streamalexander68048 жыл бұрын
+Rawsteele that is crazy
@ryannnn_nelson Жыл бұрын
can't a brother just get some amps?.. wtf ⚡😆
@deesmith43028 жыл бұрын
Yo steele help me bro whats the mamba xl all about is it gd.
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
Nicksteele58@yahoo.com
@brettgermwnn63964 жыл бұрын
This hurts my eyes
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
I know when I ran on 8s with low kv 1400kv and the gearing was 19t 44t it give me the same power and data logging info as the xl2 but that was about maybe 80 mph if it's a
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
if it's just a warranty issue just give us a 1 month warranty I can live with that this video is not too castle bash Castle we need to call in and let them know what we feel about this ESC issue I mean if they'd be honest and would ESC just said this ESC is not the same as the XL 2 and then we can live with that now you giving us the option not to purchase it or purchase it and then we just just move on and find something else obviously everybody like your product
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
+Rawsteele I feel you man. Its like Castle straight up lied to us saying the XLX is a upgrade over the XL2 just to get us to buy them. And now they wont admit that its been majorly detuned. Pisses me off
@rawsteele8 жыл бұрын
+BAY AREA FAST RC hopefully they do something about it because if it's just a warranty issue I can live with one month warranty if I blow it up I need to pay for not Castle and I understand where they're coming from on them losing money but at the same time you guys are the one who came up with a year warranty so if they change the warranty it I think it will fix everything and give us the power back all of it
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
+Rawsteele A 1 month warranty would work too if a firmware restores the power. Anything is better than this POS XLX just sitting here haha
@jesushernandez-fo2wr8 жыл бұрын
a has the same problem wish my
@MrG-cv2iz8 жыл бұрын
I knew it I thought it was me cause I did the same thing it will run like hell on 3s but on 6s it's walks that's fuck up think God I find me the old school mamba monster they got to tighten up
@mpower10018 жыл бұрын
This is not good, I was gonna get a MM2, I'll wait and see what castle has to say on this..thanks for the heads up
@David-uz8hg8 жыл бұрын
anyone get a response from castle on this problem ?
@vd49er5108 жыл бұрын
About 3 weeks ago Castlr tech support told me to email them my xlx data logs. 5 emails later and no response. They're afraid sales will plummet if they admit anything. Cowards!