casual demoman guide

[@scarybroccoli]

KZbin seemingly removed my ability to set up chapters, so here are the timestamps: [0:00] Intro [0:46] Strengths and Weaknesses [3:03] Loadout [6:21] General Playstyle [14:58] Weapon Specific Tips [19:18] Ubers [21:00] Misc. Tips [22:40] Outro

[@scarybroccoli]

Now the chapters are back. Make up your mind youtube!

[@travisthompson5080]

Its General Playsyle, not general playstyle.

[@scarybroccoli]

@@travisthompson5080 this is going to bother me now, thanks a lot. :P

[@jake0b]

scarybroccoli: "This guide is focused towards those with a more competitive mindset." me: stares suspiciously at the title

[@nousername4706]

I think it just means trying your hardest without needing to rely on others.

[@rdyt0]

replace "competitive" with "tryhard" and you will get it.

[@bruh-myega]

One thing that's helped me with Demoman, which is essentially what you've explained in the video, is to keep in mind that there's a genuine reason why Demoman is in the "Defense" category in the class pick menu. While you can be hyper aggressive, it is sometimes really surprising how much further you can get by being more passive/defensive and just a bit more patient, whether its with sticky spamming, pipes, cornering enemies or those pesky scouts.

[@doccherry7395]

Bro honestly just get good at demo I literally got drunk just to run over a innocent family of four and said “ya shouldn’t have stepped on the mines!”

[@scarybroccoli]

god i hate it when that happens

[@A_OBC]

Happens everyday.

[@boialvaro484]

It’s that simple

[@iamewp]

Scottish Tomfoolery

[@greensharktwod]

you appear to have trodden on a mine

[@Kleemet_]

This is by far the best demo, even one of the best TF2 class guides on youtube. Even though I have watched SO many competitively focused TF2 videos, I learned so much from this video (being a demo main as well)

[@Kleemet_]

Only problem I can see is the title, at first I was almost not going to click on it lol

[@scarybroccoli]

I'm glad it was helpful! When I started playing comp in 2020 I noticed right away there was very little up to date competitive content on youtube. Sure you can find guides from like 2014 but the meta has changed quite a bit since then. (looking at you shotgun soldier and scout speed update). I wish players who are better than me would take the time to produce competitive content that values the viewers time instead of just uploading a 30 minute rambling session, but unfortunately that's not really a thing.

[@boialvaro484]

It was a demo on the demo

[@obama_crab]

nuh uh

[@jacobprout5097]

1k hour demomain here, such a great video. Despite how oversaturated tf2 content is comprehensive class guides for demoman are shockingly lacking. Demo is a complex class and aside from intutive purely mechanical knowledge aspects like play patterns, mindset and strategies are scarcely talked about in the KZbin space. I have only one complaint in that you didn't articulate much about how important the class higherarchy mindset is when playing demoman. While the class higherarchy is less important in casual its still a present factor. Risk assessment is such a large part of demoman and its often worth valuing your own longevity and using restraint when playing demoman, the team itself depends on your ability to lock the game down.

[@turnipking8788]

-there is something under a rock! -whats under the rock? -rated, the rated is under

[@cz_Fenix]

I'm a, well, not so good demo main. I'm honestly really happy to have found this, with hopes that it'll improve my gameplay as demo. Underrated channel.

[@doctorcardio1559]

19:26 HAH med main here. We're listening ;)

[@DespOIcito]

now if only there were non-demoknights in my games to actually uber

[@gretchling5012]

i'll have to practice that sticky synch move, looks super fun. i'm also always happy to see love for the loch 'n load. very fun weapon

[@scarybroccoli]

The Loch n Load has grown on me in the past month (a lot). I was considering updating the section on it since I have been using it over stock now but I was at the point where I just wanted to be done with this project lol. Maybe I'll post a video about it later once I have had more time to play with it! Also yes sticky syncs are really fun. Happy practicing!

[@Cropplot]

Sometimes I suck at playing demoman but is the class I enjoy the most, I like predicting enemies and controlling a part of the map

[@mr.calamity8886]

There are some great Medic and Engineer guides out there, but when I look up Demoman guides all I found was a joke video about trapping the enemy spawn. This is the shit I've been waiting for for years. Thank you so much.

[@mudd911]

This is what everyone needed. A PROPER demoman guide. Hell yeah.

[@komi_neselimsky]

I want to say that this is the best demoman guide I've seen at all. With 500+ hours on the demo I never learned to play for him training only aim and jumps. I have long dreamed of a guide that not only tells about weapons and things that lie on the surface, but also how to generally behave in matches. Thanks for sharing your knowledge)

[@hose455]

I think an uber guide would be essential viewing for any tf2 player, and you could definitely jump on that

[@Alexander73_GD]

I think you should have talked a bit about sticky jumping, just the very basics. I see a lot of Demomans just walking forwards instead of saving a few seconds getting a health pack afterwards. Or when I play Medic I often overheal them when going to the payload/mid/point just for them to run normally when they could go faster.

[@scarybroccoli]

In hindsight yeah I should have had a section to go over it.

[@pemo2676]

it's always great seeing a sticky jumping demo who is aware and asking for overheal when i'm medic

[@masterblazx]

In my case my medics never overheal me. I'm not even asking for a pocket medic, but just an overheal to play more aggressively or to sticky jump.

[@Alexander73_GD]

@@masterblazx Unexperienced medics usually focus on whoever is in front (enemies included) and sometimes even forget to heal. Good medics are a blessing in Casual mode.

[@coltoon3431]

def the most useful guide ever, applying these tips to my gameplay has helped me improved so much. i would love a soldier version :3

[@DataDrain02]

Oh don't worry. Medic main here, I Uber Demos a LOT. I know they're incredible when Ubered. Only time I might Uber say... a Heavy. Is if there's a VERY annoying Pyro air blast spamming. Then with the remaining Uber, switch to a Demo or Soldier to take a Sentry out. That said.... So, I mainly play Demoknight. But, I do want to try and play as normal Demo eventually. This video might actually help me with that. Having a good idea on how to play neutral, and when to push offense is a great thing.

[@paulservary5360]

I really appreciated your gameplay loop part, I am a pipe player, never knowing when to lay traps.

[@ayrandabenoja5827]

Picked up this class a year ago and gave-up bc my k/d's were consistently ass and couldn't land pipes Now I'm 10 hours playtime w/ Demo and can score fairly well This video is very informative and well-done, thank you so much

[@herethere5637]

Casual doesn't count if thats what you're referring to. The real beast is HL/6s competitive as demo

[@rubixclockpog]

8:19 "How does one develop this intuition?"

[@scarybroccoli]

Playing a lot of demoman

[@vjkvkj]

A very unique guide, I was not expecting how prominent the SBL would be. I usually use my grenade launcher over stickies, so to see how much versatility the SBL has over pipes is impressive. Are there any combos that you could pull off with the SBL and Grenade Launcher?

[@scarybroccoli]

Honestly it's crazy since demo basically has two primary weapons... pipes are already crazy good on their own. As I mentioned in the video you can do a "sync" with your grenade and a sticky which is basically a 1 shot combo (if timed right the opponent is unable to surf your damage). You could also juggle someone with a sticky and then pipe them. The biggest one (and the most reliable one) is using stickies to influence the fight and force your opponent to move how you want them to. This is why soldier and scout are pretty good at countering demo - they have a ton of mobility. There might be more I am forgetting or have not "discovered" yet.

[@Wild_Rumpus]

really informative, nice!

[@moogobIin]

Thank you for this, I couldn't ask for a better guide to the class I've enjoyed playing in doses but never invested time into because I never played with good positioning in mind. I've begun seriously attempting to improve my skill as Demoman since, and while I'm still pretty amateurish (still getting locked out of Barnblitz last...) I can feel myself getting better with each play session. 15:1 on Snowycoast defense without letting them take the first point feels good.

[@ikermccarter2909]

I was a pipe main demo before this and im fairly acurrate with them but this helped me learn sticky spamming more proficiently without having to wait a whole ass second for the sticky to blow when a scout is super close

[@glorytoarstotzka330]

casual player here. I really dislike using the sticky launcher because of how it feels and for all my hours on demoman I played grenade launcher with shield, so I could reposition with charges and not be pressured to use the sticky launcher I surprisingly got really good at playing like this. ammo is always an issue and timing is important, and getting uber-ed is a real disapointment for the medic because I lack the ammo in magazine to keep up any kind of prolonged combat this video motivated me to try the sticky launcher. I've not yet done it but I certainly will try

[@WFOnaga]

Late to the party but thanks I've been wanting a Demoman centered channel or guide in recent times. I feel like I've been plateauing recently and this video helped me out, thanks mate!

[@scarybroccoli]

I'm glad my video was helpful!

[@AcousticCaterpillars]

Just started playing tf 2 a month ago, I was in a lobby playing medic, and was always wondering why the demoman on our team was wanting me to constantly follow him, now I understand why due to this video. Thank you!

[@5mech]

Ive noticed a good time to use pipes is when the enemy sees you with the SBL out. Quickswitching to pipes will catch them off guard and they won't have time to react dodge to pipes.

[@mercurydrive9720]

I have about 50 hours on demoman and I had no idea you could charge stickies for increased range, I thought the single click was as far as they could go, I can't believe this

[@mercurydrive9720]

just went into a casual game this knowledge changed my life

[@seagull4026]

Glad I came across this vid. I've been trying to work on playing demoman in casual and it's good to hear a new take on him. I can see the amount of work put into this video as well as its strong attention to details. I also play a lot of medic. I always try to stay on our demoman as much as possible, but you're right, it's rare to find a grenade launcher + sticky demoman in casual (and a skilled one at that).

[@junpei8880]

Genuinely excellent demoman guide. Well paced, good jokes, great advice. Thanks for the video!

[@LilSnooze]

I main demo, such a fun and versatile class. I only play stock demo and it’s honestly perfect, never felt the need to swap for more then a game or two just for gags.

[@pemo2676]

i do use rollers to check corners and areas that im NOT going if the other team has some players who are consistently trying to flank - i dont think much about them, can usually get ammo before i'm back fighting, and they usually don't do much. but in the occasion that i hear that wonderful ding as i go, it's perfect. either i'm warning my moving team about a spy (who gets obliterated), or already pushed a scout on the offensive and he's about to meet a nasty end.

[@MrMaIice]

Thank you for all the helpful advice! :D I was very surprised with how well put together this video was, especially for how small of a following you have. Looking forward to seeing more content from you!

[@reeboksk8er]

Would be cool to see a video around damage surfing, not using your own damage but surfing away from fights using enemy damage.

[@gjmguy7994]

In that final clip, it was the guaranteed crit from the gunslinger. It doesn’t random crit.

[@frozure]

extremely well made, definitely sending to my friends. thanks for putting some more demo content on the platform :-)

[@hockwiig]

Best Demo guide i've seen by far !

[@Randomdud751]

Medic is the strongest class. Just one word: Healing

[@Stupid22255]

Demoman Casual Guide(EASY MODE): Spam stickies or use Loch N Load and quickiebomb launcher. Done

[@tgnm9615]

What the hell. I disnt knoe you can charge your sticky bomb

[@emctwoo]

There’s also a great built in aim trainer for pipes: playing half knight so you don’t have an option besides learning to aim.

[@scarybroccoli]

I did this when I was new to demo. As a result my pipe aim got better and I hardly used stickies... I guess it would be good if you are already good with the SBL!

[@Dr_Spicy]

Great video as always! Also, you didn't get the stab in that last clip because you were standing and not crouching, I don't exactly know why but you need to crouch to get the stab on these overhead angles.

[@PsychoPatho2]

numbers go boom

[@jimmyjohnson501]

This video is crazy underrated

[@MarcusAlder]

9:15 "a sticky trap in your own spawn will achieve nothing" Meanwhile videos on an exploit to get into enemy spawn, with people countering by sticky trapping their own spawn

[@scarybroccoli]

ignoring exploits the statement is true lol

[@julienmothe5894]

I've played tf2 for years and never gotten into demoman. I started playing a few months ago and now I'm genuinely enjoying it. The feeling when you land consecutive pipes ! But there is nothing more infuriating than being killed by an only sticky spammer. In competitive I understand, but I'm willing to bet that at least half of sticky spammers that claim in chat every time to be "the best demo" in casual don't even know how to use their primary...

[@highly2943]

gaminator at the end LMAO

[@obama_crab]

casual heavy guide when?

[@dapunz]

quality content bro. subbed

[@ThunderOfStrenght]

I like playing demoman but the grenades can be annoying to use up close.

[@friizx_528]

i prersonally love to play demoman on 50v50 server, i know most the the tips in this video, my aim just sucks for the airshot but it's so funny to hide behind walls and shoot stickies. i literally exploded a huge engi nest by myself, an dmy team then was able to push forward. i like this class so much edit : good video by the way !

[@scarybroccoli]

I need to try out the 50v50 server, it has to be so much fun. Glad you liked the video!

[@friizx_528]

@@scarybroccoli the 50v50 server is sooo fun

[@id85181]

staying alive is the most important thing for demo other than positioning. I practice pipes by going stock + sticky jumper and going on either casual or uncletopia. Being good at your emergency weapon when you cant use stickies keeps you alive for longer and doing more damage. And uncletopia is like a casual upgrade since you face compitent players who strafe and dodge

[@djcreeperboy5062]

1:48 no because he has a lot of options to escape battle or to kill the opponent The options to escape battle are use the grenade launcher to jump away use the sticky bomb launcher you can use the shield to get away you can sticky stun and leave battle because the opponents falling from the air and finally trapped his opponent let’s talk about his battle options sticky spam ,Stick stun ,use your grenade launcher, use your big sword, trap yourself because he has a lot of HP and power,he can stun lock players with his sticky bomb.

[@OptimusPrime_Commenter]

optimus prime approved

[@Emusaurusrex]

19:19 bro I literally got an ad about rafah when you said this wtf

[@mrfrivolusfr8482]

Good guide but scatterbrained but so is demo as a classic

[@borgedd]

25 hour demo here, will you ever make a video on how to sticky jump or pipe jump and if so what's better pipe jumping or sicky jumping?

[@scarybroccoli]

I (probably) won't make a video about sticky/rocket/pipe jumping. There are plenty out there already and, frankly, I am a mediocre jumper. It depends on what you mean by what is better... pipe and sticky jumping serve two different purposes. Sticky jumping is better for rollouts/general movement, but pipe jumping can be useful to escape a bad situation since you can direct an opponent and jump with the same pipe (instead of having to wait for your sticky arm time to jump away). Hopefully that makes sense.

[@ShiddyKong]

If you can get good at sticky+pipe combo, you can get double donks down

[@scarybroccoli]

Yeah this is probably true but the loose canon can be rough to use tbh. Your pipes are your last resort weapoh when someone gets up close, and the extra time it takes to charge it feela really bad. Idk maybe I just need to spend more time with the LC

[@ShiddyKong]

@@scarybroccoli I got ahead of myself, I also wanted to say great tutorial! I sent it to a friend who’s making the transition from Overwatch to TF2 Anyway, the loose cannon is a super fun weapon but I use the iron bomber if I want to do well. It’s not great but the Scottish resistance is also much more useful than I expected it would be

[@scarybroccoli]

@@ShiddyKong converting a OW player to tf2 is a huge W. Tbh when making this video i forgot entirely about the scottish resistance

[@ShiddyKong]

@@scarybroccoli it’s really not that great a weapon lmao but it makes you think critically about your traps and stuff like that He chose to convert after seeing ElMaxo’s Bing Soy video, the social aspect of this game is more evolved and expressive than VR

[@rajkangriwala2898]

really well made video!

[@liamjones5783]

Excellent guide

[@bebrasmachnayq5691]

I played demoknight for most of my demo time, i played normal demonsn for only 5 hours while demoknight is 50 hours!! So i gotta start train hitting pills now

[@d0nnyr0n]

How the hell did that engie crit you at the end? Gunslinger doesn't random crit, and he didn't hit you thrice...

[@bri_ishhedgehog5915]

YOUR MAKIN ME VERY CROSSSS

[@fg4tk906]

Are there any specific maps that i can use to work on all my demo aim, especially syncing?

[@AedaNCraY]

are there tips to fight scouts or any classes in close range?

[@just_pufferfish]

Ah yes. DEMO GAMING

[@scarybroccoli]

DEMOMAN TF2

[@bjornlindgren1774]

"casual demoman guide" "starts talking about "comp viable" few minutes in" 💀

[@scarybroccoli]

If I am creating a video guide on how to play a character in a video game, I can operate under the assumption that the viewers are trying to improve at said character and video game. Would it not be relevant to mention the competitive meta for the character in question to improve the value that the video provides to the viewer?

[@NotWendy3]

The loadouts that work best for the Demoman in a competitive environment are also the best for casual gameplay, it just so happens. Maybe that wasn't clear from the video, but that's why it was mentioned. For other classes it can be different, since casual matches are often more forgiving towards risky playstyles and don't have any weapon restrictions.

[@scarybroccoli]

@@NotWendy3 Stock demo is incredibly op, most pubbers just havent noticed it yet. Probably too distracted by how annoying sniper is.

[@bethnicz]

very informational, love it

[@ishkanark6725]

Launch bomb

[@Neo69420]

I would love to get aussies for demo but im not spending 70 quid for them so i have to grind in mvm 😢 i currently only have 120+ hours on demo but im a certified skill issue

[@_eya]

demoman takes skill

[@mafuokaoka2]

demo god fr fr, ive been trying to be a demo main, but ping is my enemy and theres nobody to really teach me

[@scarybroccoli]

Projectile classes (soldier, demo) are rough on high ping. Possible for sure, but rough. Don't give up, I am sure you will see improvement!

[@clonezy7800]

What's up with this Medieval music man

[@RUGER5264]

Can you tell me your interp and Lerp settings (if you use any) for demoman?

[@scarybroccoli]

I think I might have copied b4nny's settings, and if not then just default.

[@lucifero_il_gatto]

What viewmodel fov are you using? What are your settings in general?

[@scarybroccoli]

1600 dpi 3 in game sens => 3.41 in/360 I use a script in my class configs to allow me to change between two preset viewmodel fovs by pressing alt. My demo weapon fov i have set a bit different than the other mercs. This is what I use for demo: alias viewmodel70 "viewmodel_fov 100; tf_use_min_viewmodels 1; bind alt viewmodel90" alias viewmodel90 "viewmodel_fov 90; tf_use_min_viewmodels 0; bind alt viewmodel70" bind alt viewmodel70 everyone else: alias viewmodel70 "viewmodel_fov 70; tf_use_min_viewmodels 1; bind alt viewmodel90" alias viewmodel90 "viewmodel_fov 90; tf_use_min_viewmodels 0; bind alt viewmodel70" bind alt viewmodel70

[@napoleon4685]

random question, but do you still have the no smoke script? i seem to download on various link they dont seem to work

[@scarybroccoli]

I don't have the original download link but I think if you put this file into your \Team Fortress 2\tf\custom folder your explosions should look like mine: drive.google.com/file/d/1vNJnrPG-8jwdOQvnCT359lG7S1ogZO7f/view Let me know if this works. I might upload a video about this eventually since I am sure more people are having issues finding this!

[@AliceLoverdrive]

Maining demo on 100ping is hard But damn I love pipes so much

[@scarybroccoli]

Yeah 100 ping is rough... depending on where you live you might get better latency to a community server? P.S. if you ever get better internet/ping it will be like taking off the weighted clothing in dragon ball lmao

[@AliceLoverdrive]

@@scarybroccoli I'm already playing on Uncletopia, and the best ping I can get is 80 in Hong Kong, but I don't exactly speak Cantonese, so I play on Frankfurt. I'm from Qasaqstan, all the servers are just geographically far away, really, so unless I move somewhere I'll never see any better ping than that, in any game. My GL is at ~6k kills since the start of the year, but I still feel like I can't hit shit and mostly get people by rollers and spam

[@scarybroccoli]

​@@AliceLoverdrive Dang, that sucks. 80+ ping projectiles are pretty rough, but I wouldn't say it's impossible to get pretty good at demo on high ping, just a lot harder.

[@supergarryplayer2006]

demoman better dan soldier for real reals

[@scarybroccoli]

I would agree but soldier is close behind! Honestly the utilities soldier can providr are so underrated. Banners/whip

[@supergarryplayer2006]

yeah i agree with this, demoman is better in my eyes because sticky spamming is basically the meta for right now.@@scarybroccoli

[@GaminatorA]

Gunslinger is pretty cool sometimes.

[@scarybroccoli]

To this day I lay awake at night trying to figure out how that wasn't a backstab.

[@GaminatorA]

​I have steel plating in my back.

[@Onionzy]

ngl a bit of alcohol makes my pipe aim better

[@goobywoobyy]

whats the song in the beginning?

[@scarybroccoli]

Rage by Gvidon: pixabay.com/music/rock-rage-15292/

[@ericlucido926]

great vid

[@TheRealSwifz]

finally got enough footage smh

[@scarybroccoli]

Only took 6 months of clipping things lol

[@tosdy8480]

Not very effective strategy but super fun if your winning eyelander hybridknight has no weaknesses

[@naistor]

Brother, thanks for the video. Can i have the name of your HUD?

[@scarybroccoli]

Budhud!

[@naistor]

@@scarybroccoli ty

[@ryaltov]

blind det. I call it the sin_k4rma

[@LeUnoriginal]

This has strong college professor vibes

[@scarybroccoli]

Maybe my college professors are rubbing off on me lol

[@devinwelch5]

Huh, this man is spitting facts

[@ches2839]

what hud u use

[@scarybroccoli]

Budhud!

[@Calixite]

What hud do you use

[@scarybroccoli]

budhud

[@Calixite]

Thanks

[@metalblizzard6024]

Goood videoi

[@Clorox_Gaming]

is tide turner viable

[@scarybroccoli]

It depends on the context and your mindset. If you just want to have fun and don't care to improve at tf2: In pubs? Yes, everything is viable in pubs. In comp? Yes, if your team doesn't care and you are good at hitting pipes. If you want to improve at tf2: In pubs? Still yes, but not conducive to improvement In comp? Absolutely not. Shields in general are not viable in comp and the tide turner

[@basileusbasil4041]

Hello warcriminal

[@solo_va5492]

Are you still continuing the roamer series?

[@scarybroccoli]

Yes, it is just slow going. This channel is a creative outlet for my sake I can't crank out just the one series. Now that I have a bunch of disk space freed up I will continue production on EP4!

[@pt9263]

This was good, but could you pls make a vid for Highlander demoman advice? :)

[@scarybroccoli]

This probably won't be happening any time soon since I am not currently playing highlander (and don't plan on joining a team in the near future). I could always grab clips from RGL vods, but I find my own gameplay is more genuine to a beginner-intermediate experience than a casted invite match. If I were to make a video for HL demo I would mostly be repeating this video since pretty much all of the advice given here is applicable. The only big difference would be going over positioning, a deeper dive into ubers, and a few other things.

[@scarybroccoli]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/imm3omaFntWrnbcsi=h_JjGHkrx-WMQvHX

[@pt9263]

@@scarybroccoli you are THE GOAT

[@young7931]

Hi dad

[@fxrpy]

yo can i have your discord? i'd like to ask about some game settings ur using

[@nanowowker144]

how's the hud called? i really need it

[@scarybroccoli]

budhud

[@nanowowker144]

ty @@scarybroccoli