cat valentine literally changed and we never noticed

[@esunday1906]

someone once referred to season 1 cat as pre lobotomy cat and i’ve never forgot that

[@kanatasbestie]

PLEASEEEEEE OMG

[@angeladcs740]

NOOOOOOOOOOO 💀

[@foureyedbug]

HELPPPP

[@Romy---]

Something like this is nothing new. The same happened to Joey in Friends.

[@mikemoss6045]

More like pre dan schneider..

[@princesstelimena2887]

Oh i definitely noticed. It was weeeeird. She seemed like a normal, but quirky teenager in season 1, but by season 4, she acted like a child.

[@TheSkinnyZ]

Exactly.

[@PDD555]

As others have mentioned, I feel that dirty feet Schenider was fetishing her and/or her character. But she's one of the only ones who have never mentioned anything against him, so I wonder if this helped her in the begining of her career

[@om58499]

@@PDD555​​⁠or it the cause of a character getting dumber over time like homer or peter or spongebob or any other show overtime otherwise called Flanderization

[@CamdenBloke]

She was a bit ditzy in season 1, but over the top in season 4. In season 1 she was like Phoebe ditzy

[@candypietravels]

Totally 💯

[@e.9874]

It's called flanderization. It's when characters become caricatures of themselves.

[@j.ronnygibson]

Yup, plenty fictional characters suffer this. Especially if a show runs too long and the writers ran out of ideas

[@alittlerosie8721]

I feel like there’s more performance elements that go in to this though. There’s an incredible cj the x video on cat Valentine that goes over a lot of what the changes imply for the character

[@e.9874]

@@alittlerosie8721 That's part of flanderization. Ariana Grande did give a very iconic performance here, but her own acting became a caricature of itself over time. That may be the fault of the directors, or maybe a situation where her goofiness made them write Cat goofier, and that made Ariana play her goofier so on so forth

[@The_Devil_Breaker_]

Sam and Dean 😢

[@ardenaudreyarji]

Like Goku

[@waddafugg3072]

Season 4 cat is constantly stressed out and uncomfortable. Season 1 cat is just really cool and someone you'd want to be friends with.

[@jewelborn]

It’s only 3 seasons

[@johnlaurinceonate6865]

@@jewelborn NO, Victorious has 4 seasons, Netflix merged season 3 and season 4. Also, the episodes in netflix is out of order, lmao 🤣🤣😆😆

[@jewelborn]

@@johnlaurinceonate6865 uhm k

[@garfield1198]

@@jewelborn 4*

[@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo3924]

cause of her brother, her brother changed her throughout the years

[@luanminitti1177]

S4 was Dan Schneider just being a straight PDF file because he wanted Cat to be sexually childish, two words that I’m sick to even put together like that

[@róisínanne]

Aw youre so right tho

[@PDD555]

Yeah this is the reason probably. Remember her licking her thumb

[@luanminitti1177]

@@PDD555yes I remember worse than that, unfortunately

[@super_kami_dende]

What's worse is when we were kids we were so unaware and even our parents weren't paying attention. Growing up I used to make fun of Justin Bieber just like most people did, and that poor kid was getting SA'd by Diddy probably the majority of his life. Hollywood and the music industry have gotten away with a lot that there should be a full investigation on everything and everyone.

[@cryforhelp7270]

​@@luanminitti1177 beach episode

[@mattopas9176]

When she said "ugh it's so gross how he's always hitting on every girl" she sounded like a normal highschooler, then she became a 6 year old

[@maem7462]

Right she was always a little strange in the head but seemed more normal than she becomes later on. Like you said she becomes like a child. Sadly I think part of the reason why the change happened was bc Dan Schneider is a creep. It likely was one of his ways to fetishize the character and Ariana Grande

[@Mentro140]

​@@maem7462 definitely this, shit's creepy

[@entimoreng]

@@maem7462 if it makes you feel any better its more than likely just flanderization which is common in sitcoms

[@maem7462]

@@entimoreng That was likely part of it but given how much of a creep Dan Schneider was I think there was also some of his creepiness that also affected the changes. It becomes a very drastic change it seems to be more than your typical Flanderization.

[@casswashwash1070]

@@maem7462 this is like SpongeBob when Patrick got over the top dumb instead of funny dumb. Sandy was obsessed with science instead of just smart w/other traits. And SpongeBob got super kid like and dumb instead of the normal geeky and funny guy he started as

[@tsmit44]

I noticed the change. Voice got higher and she SEEMED shorter. She went from always wearing heels to never. And her catchphrase “What’s that supposed to mean?!” wasn’t used anymore. Similar to the change of SpongeBob. He got more silly and kid-like after the first few seasons. Mid/deep level voice less and less.

[@chersnextdoor]

Exactly

[@itslizzieann]

Yes!

[@supersonicbasher9734]

That fairly odd parents cosmo treatment😔

[@hayu6788]

@@supersonicbasher9734oMG THE REFERENCE 😩

[@XaniaKorinec]

And then they started dating

[@deandretje]

ngl it's kinda funny seeing people act and say like the reason is because of her brother or trauma or that she's age regressing but I'm sad to break to you all that that infact is not the case. actually there is no correlation to the character. the sole reason they dumbed her down and kind of turned her into a child is because dan is just a weirdo who just told ariana to start acting and talking like that as cat lol

[@deandretje]

the only and sole reason is literally just the fact that dan schneider is an absolute sick weirdo who put his weird kinks and fetishes into his shows.

[@Fierra2000]

It’s not just about Dan tho. She’s not the only dumb character to become dumber

[@aphrodieMonkey]

Yeah, source bud? ngl it’s kinda funny how you’re tryna shut down everyone’s opinion quite matter-of-factly like you were there or helped produce the show Lol you’re just going off your own opinion of Dan Schneider

[@channelpink4376]

@@deandretje EXACTLY. Even in this video he had Ariana say her brother was selling cups of pee. Tinkle-ade instead of "lemonade" Like...wtf. He's sick.

[@maaaaarisel]

@@aphrodieMonkeyown opinion? 😭

[@yffucug2717]

I never noticed when I watched it at first but I rewatched it on Netflix and was so surprised at how much she changed

[@babyhuiyeon8851]

yep in the worst

[@MadeByDW]

This

[@shadowlq5366]

does that apply for real life? she looks older than she is today in season 1 lmao

[@mya.xoxo_]

@@shadowlq5366what are you even talking about?

[@shadowlq5366]

@@mya.xoxo_ what the heck, this isn't the comment I thought it was

[@BrendanJSmith]

She gets more and more flanderized to the point where she's acting like an infant by the end of Sam & Cat.

[@daddy_warbux]

I had to look up flanderized- you’re spot on!

[@LuxuriousLenay]

​@@daddy_warbuxthat's exactly what I was thinking, that's the perfect word to describe the same exact downfall of SpongeBob.

[@Nailah_1]

Flanderization: The progressive exaggeration of a single trait or set of traits of a fictional character until it overtakes all other characterization. (so you don't have to Google it)

[@TheGreatDetectiveKnows]

Unfortunately so many characters fall into this trap esp in comedy :/ the audience likes or responds to 1 specific trait in this case her subtle dumbness and so the writer appeals to that until they are completely derailed and become the stereotype. Spongebob is a great example! He had so many personality traits and by the end he’s identical to Patrick - so disappointing.

[@Toonsay]

@@Nailah_1 example: let’s say there is a character named Julius. Here are Julius’s traits in his first appearances. -smart -resourceful -do- gooder -has a book collection that he regularly checks on. Here is Julius‘s character traits in his final appearance. -fucking obsessed with his book collection that is basically what Flanderization is

[@reynakondaveeti8346]

I feel like her mental health got more and more messed up throughout the show

[@CapyMartinBara]

wouldn't blame her

[@LilithDark]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking

[@plummuff]

nah it was the WRITERS getting more and more lazy throughout the show.

[@eyesaiah8405]

@@plummuff nah I don't think so

[@iedosv2520]

Or hear me out….it’s a kids show…

[@occasionaltextingstories7383]

Stages of Cat 2010-2014 S1: Mature Teen S2: Immature Teen S3. 10 year old S4: 6 year old Sam and Cat: 3 Year old???!!!

[@VanGangnesTheVideoMakerHD8]

more like 4 year old not 3

[@cheveljohnson1875]

Lol right.

[@dantdmfangamingrich9802]

Dan Schneider become creepier throughout the show

[@Sylveon386]

Not to mention she was usually portrayed as dumb but somehow smarter than Goomer

[@Dc-kk9bd]

Little girls want to be grown. Grown woman just want a guy to call daddy

[@riumainu2768]

"my hair color has nothing to do with MY psycological problems!!!" XD that kinda explains her change XD

[@VampryxX]

She said her hair color has to do with when her brother hit her over the head and her head started bleeding but she liked how the red looked in her hair

[@riumainu2768]

@@VampryxX yeah XD she is just insane XD

[@SistinaChapel]

@Joe yea , after she liked how the blood looked on her hair

[@jo_imsolazy1487]

@Joe she lied cause she didn’t want anybody to know her business 💀

[@eyesaiah8405]

@Joe you just wanted trouble huh?

[@-___-__]

two things i noticed: 1) she became way dumber, 2) she went from being mature to a child slowly throughout the seasons, so she becomes younger each season

[@nicoledickson6099]

She goes down a age every season. Until she is is eventually a small child by sam and cat.

[@K.grace010]

that means shes a new born by now

[@someonenamecheddar]

They told her curly hair wasn't "In character" for Cat Valentine . So they made her dye her hair red and straighten it. But she had to start wearing red wigs at some point because she was having hair damage. Which leads to the iconic ponytail she has now. :D

[@blueshinobi8665]

I like the curly hair better tho

[@kathycollin2229]

I think curly works for kid-like characters like Cat. I just think kids like curly because it’s pretty. P.S. I meant kid-like in a good way, just in case you didn’t know

[@lilibethbias4458]

when i first saw her she made me think of the 80s with her curly hair and multi colored clothes

[@ml.9417]

Iconic?

[@ml.9417]

@Jasmine N. go through what? Hair damage from dye and heat?

[@notsuspicioususer4080]

I honestly like the progression of her character because it really shows that she was more and more traumatized throughout the show, and being cutesy and happy-go-lucky was a coping mechanism

[@jewelsb4926]

“I liked her character development because it showed her being more traumatized 😀” Like ok what 😭😭 (Obviously I know u didn’t mean it like that I just thought it was funny)

[@Francesca_0]

But character development isn't up to the actor, it's up to the writers and director. So her trauma is irrelevant to the cutesy persona

[@Bizcuits26]

Cus of her brother

[@eyesaiah8405]

@@Francesca_0 her trauma isn't connected with the actress either. It's part of how her character was written

[@eyesaiah8405]

@@Bizcuits26 I believe that she got influenced by her brother a lot throughout the seasons.

[@umiikii4491]

Season 1 she was wasn’t so out of her mind, and her voice was deeper, her style went from neon to bright pink

[@anasaavedra5600]

And hair was short and now it’s usually longer and wearing ponytails and bow ties on top coquette style also her feet wears were once high heels and now sneakers and ballet flats

[@bigbootyboy420]

No actually

[@totallyrevv]

I think she changed because of her weird brother because i remember in one time she said in the episode she got trapped in a metal box in sam and cats she said "It feels like my closet when i hide from my brother" Sam: why would you hide from your brother? "You know..to survive"

[@Yo_Yo215]

That‘s really sad…

[@eyesaiah8405]

@@Yo_Yo215 good thing she doesn't find it sad.

[@dragonball4ever2009]

@@eyesaiah8405 ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm sweetie there's a thing called repressing trauma

[@nnnn-sc2im]

no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time

[@andromeda5126]

@@chowderscrib everyone can interpret things differently :)

[@fulfilledfantasy.]

She was so much better on season 1😭😭 i agree with the other comments saying she progressively got worse and more traumatized

[@makaylarae1000]

also as if she age regressed because of the trauma too

[@Yep6803]

Fun fact: I used to be and looking EXACTLY like that in my early teenhood. 😅 That's weird I never knew about Victorious.

[@katty5901]

The sad thing is, by the time Sam and Cat came around, you can tell that she's painfully aware of how different she is.

[@SRose-vp6ew]

There are videos of her being made fun of by Dan the producer for not being little girl like enough and told to make her voice higher and higher, and be more little girl like, or he would mock her like she was a man, it’s disgusting. It turned out he was a complete pervert. I feel bad about how trashy Ariana Grande became, but it’s clear that when she was younger, she tried to protect herself from that jerk. Even a video of her, pulling her skirt to cover up more as Dan walked passed and she tried to protect the real innocence that someone actually took from her. I never wanted to watch this, I felt like these actors were… no words for my issues with it back then, but now I know why. I just saw it all as wrong, it was wrong what all was going on and the “morels” pushed, older stuff actually was of value. I liked that.

[@GIRLYISMS]

Its crazy to think about it now because back when we were younger, the brother jokes seemed normal and just part of her character. However it really does show how traumatized she was because of her brother. Do y’all remember when she told Sam that she was in a closet HIDING from her brother to SURVIVE?? The child like persona could be traced back to(POSSIBLY) her parents having to focus more on her brother since he’s “not well” and most likely dangerous and needs to be paid attention to more than their healthy daughter cat? It makes sense but of course, it’s all speculation.

[@OmarThePuppy]

It’s not that deep

[@blkpplareabsolutelygorgeou1691]

It is that deep you just don’t want to get into it lmfaooo

[@OmarThePuppy]

@@blkpplareabsolutelygorgeou1691 Seek therapy.

[@blkpplareabsolutelygorgeou1691]

​@@OmarThePuppy for what? analyzing? damn bro why don't you tell that to game theory and other creators that analyze media

[@iam7477]

And then we find out who her brother really is in Henry Danger with Goomer and it all adds up. He really was a psychopath.

[@allencampbell1058]

Yea I've barely noticed it know during the first few season her voice sounds normal and the last season it sounds slower and off

[@clay9909]

Explain normal? Shes bipolar

[@ghost_gamer8921]

@@clay9909 did you just diagnose her with bipolar disorder??

[@clay9909]

@@ghost_gamer8921 no if you were a true fan you'd know how its true

[@JBurridge06]

@@clay9909 Normal as in its Ariana’s normal voice. And she’s not putting on a pretend Cat voice.

[@eyesaiah8405]

@Dylan Bostic no she already was changing since like half of season 1

[@padfootny]

Shit, i never noticed this until now. But it kinda makes me sad, I’m studying psychology and it just kinda shows that Cat was suffering more and more during the show, she starting to create like a coping mechanism or smth. It really makes me sad, wow

[@thebestcommenter22]

How was shw suffering was it because of the idiot dan snickershdetr

[@5thkiechannel]

We’ll yeah canonically she hid from her brother “to survive” and her parents were so mean to her that her friends encouraged her to move out after finding out she had been living at the school in hiding.

[@nnnn-sc2im]

no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time

[@artisticmelodies2302]

@@nnnn-sc2im Its a good thing that its not really been happening in recent shows. Bubbly characters can be funny without being dumb.

[@_kurdi_47]

​@@artisticmelodies2302 yeah. Sheldon Cooper for example. This guy is funny but a genius

[@olivia12252]

She changed a lot tbh

[@SIowerrr]

I see no difference

[@idiott101]

@@SIowerrr her voice.

[@mandalove3408]

@@SIowerrr They made her dumber. In the first season, I feel like she was supposed to be more bipolar and quirky, but as the seasons went on they just made her dumb.

[@VictoriousTwixtor]

@@idiott101 nah But! In Sam and cat it kinda changed

[@Teeter_totter908]

@@VictoriousTwixtor No, did you even watch the video??? Her voice is CLEARLY pitched up, they CLEARLY changed it within the seasons.

[@JayeKisses]

I think Nickelodeon got in trouble for making comedy out of a bipolar character so making her dumb was easier

[@butterstamp3767]

no, nickelodeon wasn't "woke" yet when this show was made.

[@enchantegance]

⁠​⁠@@butterstamp3767 This doesn’t even make any sense. 😂

[@butterstamp3767]

@ 30 people disagree with you. I guess it wasn't that hard to understand

[@Danomis]

I like this theory the best

[@colorbar.s]

no tf they didn't lmao she's not "bipolar"

[@aa9754]

Season 1: funny and lovable Season 2: cute Season 3 through Sam&Cat: annoyingly dumb

[@notyayanguyen1735]

very agreeable

[@abigailsolomon2927]

This is so true

[@allglorytothefather4186]

I noticed she started changing when Begging On Your Knees was released. After Locked Up, it really started showing

[@FRISHR]

Dan “make your voice higher to fulfill my desire” Schneider.

[@aquelecientista4491]

0:45 she went through a lobotomy

[@Аниданик]

When?

[@stonesword1844]

it’s called flanderization of a character and it’s frowned upon in writing.

[@zahraa4149]

Someone's getting it. The amount people in the comments trying to "explain" it was driving me nuts

[@vajculo]

Schneiderization*

[@nighttimeasbestos5958]

It's not necessarily a bad thing, Alway Sunny is a pretty good example where the characters become caricatures of themselves over the seasons but it works with the show.

[@Alanasianful]

@@zahraa4149people saying she has childlike regression due to trauma. Why would Schneider write that into the show? He’s profiting off of her real life trauma and fetishisation of children like bffr 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Sea_Wheezy]

Y'all realize that the change has probably nothing to do with the fact that she's traumatized but that's the excuse Dan made for pushing his kinks/fetishizes onto her? Like seriously dan did it to every female but especially ari probably because she was his type.. Scary to think about looking back knowing how Dan was to all the girls..

[@vaginaspecialist]

fr like why is everyone like “i love older version cat, she’s cuter”… 😭

[@sandalwoodandcoconut]

Thank you lmao

[@deandretje]

no literally

[@lollybowser]

Srsly! Everyone here talking about the trauma of a fictional children's sitcom character when in reality it was all a vehicle for the creator's baby and foot fetish

[@rsolyi1434]

he did it bc shes the tiniest out of the cast no?

[@yvesus7]

season 1 cat is the best! i liked her voice and fashion style!

[@abigailsolomon2927]

Same

[@that_one_guy_named_rami]

I never noticed this when I was younger, but once I rewatched the show recently, I noticed. Which resulted in me in preferring her character in season 1.

[@jolecookies9382]

Her catchphrase is "WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!" So does that make it a ✨catphrase✨

[@taylornoren642]

It’s from the Amanda show

[@globrystingur]

@@taylornoren642Yep. Never seen this show but that line is a definite Moody’s Point rehash

[@StrangeStartrackerArt]

@@globrystingur Cat was originally based on the character that said that.

[@bigbootyboy420]

No frrr

[@confuzzled_waffle4377]

So glad I'm not the only one who noticed this! I think the most common fan theory is that she had a bad home life and was mentally regressing, but honestly I just think it was bad writing on Nickelodeon's part :// Season 1 Cat will always be my fave

[@yasmin9038]

I dont think so probably Nickelodeon got called out for making Fun of a bipolar character then they changed that

[@aa9754]

Agreed

[@K.grace010]

@@yasmin9038bro she was even more bipolar and crazy in season 3 and 4

[@chloerojas1712]

i always noticed and wondered why no one really talked about it. they made hER SO DUMB :(((

[@juansaucedo9770]

Dumb, but so talented, is an interesting combination

[@Bubbleseatfish]

Yea

[@zorachanelh]

same

[@bangel7014]

@SonderDAze X yes

[@eyesaiah8405]

Not dumb. She's bipolar and something. She's cray cray.

[@elijahtorres2688]

What’s pretty sad is that she possibly went through age-regression. As the show went on, her brother’s mental health had gotten worse, and she was possibly traumatized by her brother’s behavior, and the fact that her parents couldn’t paid ANY attention to her due to that, and to the point where they could no longer care for her when they had to take her bother to a mental-health institution out of state, leaving her to stay with her aunt and uncle for an indefinite period of time was frightening. But even when she was living with her aunt and uncle, it didn’t made things better for her since she dealt with domestic abuse from them, and was forced to run away and live in a school closet that was rodent-infested. Her mentally retreating to a younger age possibly help her cope with stress and trauma she had dealt with her family out of school.

[@dudahelena4025]

That or it was just Dan Schneider being a sick man and making Cat looking more like a kid and making her do weird stuff cause he liked that...

[@SanaPlaysStuff]

Remember that they are acting

[@yokicoco496]

@@SanaPlaysStuff They are literally just referring to the characters, not the people who acted for Victorious.

[@notjazzz14]

@@dudahelena4025 they are talking about the character not the actor

[@nnnn-sc2im]

no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time

[@RubenAlvarado1996]

this is the human equivalent of Spongebob’s personality downfall throughout the years.

[@hugomendoza5665]

This is a pretty common thing. In early episodes/seasons, characters tend to be more generic. As time goes on they tend to exaggerate particular characteristics so that the character has more of a “bit” or shtick. That way they are more memorable bc you readily associate their character with just a few comically exaggerated traits.

[@clarypop2422]

I definitely noticed the change and was so annoyed lol. She got more annoying and dumber and dumber by the season and lost every shred of personality she had in Season 1 Victorious. She ended up with zero personality. Everyone’s saying how it was because her character was traumatised by her brother yadda yadda yadda but nah I don’t think it’s even that deep, the show people thought a dumb airhead character was cute and went to town with it lmao

[@deazy6453]

Yeah, but the constant talk about her traumatic home life lends itself to her at first having bipolar disorder to her developing a child-like coping mechanism. The girl said she had to lock herself in her closet to SURVIVE an attack from her brother on several occasions. It's very possible that her condition worsened throughout the show leading her to have more manic episodes. However, it was a show on Nick for pre-teens. That's pretty rough subject matter to tackle directly. Honestly, if you look at all the characters, each and everyone of them had implied mental illness or fucked up home lives. I didn't notice any of this growing up, but now rewatching the show it's becoming more and more apparent.

[@asmrsistaa]

Exactly! Girl thank you for hitting the nail on the head 😭 💯

[@dundun6513]

Reminds me of joey from friends

[@Itsme-ih1mv]

In real life they say every time she said no the director when he want her to do dum nasty he makes her dumber

[@sandalwoodandcoconut]

@@deazy6453 it’s a nickelodeon show it isn’t that deep

[@midgettiger6389]

Dude I never realized how constant the laugh track is

[@om58499]

The 2000s effect

[@CD-gb5he]

​@@om58499 premiered 2010

[@thegeeksfantasy2656]

Season 1 cat coulda led a show, season 4 cat ain't got the brain power to Stay focused on the plot of the episode

[@donnabeth_]

“She is on anti-depressants which make her so perky, and her brothers abuse has caused her to revert back to a childlike state to help cope with what she's facing.” i read this from a site :(( this is so sad.

[@nnnn-sc2im]

no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time

[@Kxreem3677]

stop tryna make kids shows turn sad with yalls dumb theories

[@nicolebriant98]

@@nnnn-sc2imno

[@Whit1213]

This is because of bad writing, if her trauma was showing in her avting than it wouldve been corrected by the producers

[@mojojojoasdfg1183]

​@@Whit1213she's talking about the trauma of the character, Cat had an abusive brother in the show

[@Growvee]

it’s so jarring to see her S1 self and her S4 self back to back oh my lord

[@tajsimms8976]

0:31 “what’s that supposed to mean” came from moody points a sketch from the Amanda show one of the characters always said it

[@aghasearmyshawolblinkonce8039]

The character in moody’s point that said the catchphrase was named misty 😄

[@greenlast_7249]

am i the only one that feels... icky about cat? i feel like she had mental health issues or was abused... i don't know, she just seemed quite unstable

[@katiekemp5175]

well duh. have you heard the stories about her brother and how her parents are kinda mean to her. Later on in victorious it got so bad at her house that she was living in a hidden place in the school. When her friends found her, they told her to go live with her nona. Thats why she lives with nona in sam and cat

[@user-ee1lr4lk6e]

It’s a kids show it’s not that deep

[@binwooyoo1023]

@@user-ee1lr4lk6e technically it's more teen show probably that's why during I was kid I don't interests watching victorious but now I like victorious so it's depend on what age you are so it's teen show

[@simplynic5174]

I knew I related to her as a kid for some reason…

[@jeshuarestituyo284]

@@user-ee1lr4lk6e it's a teen show dude that's why they did touched on some deep stuff

[@jonathancharron7360]

Real life explaination: her character got flanderized. In universe explaination: brain tumor.

[@ComputerLilac7172]

I DID NOTICED IT!!! Even Jade's eyebrows, she literally killed them😭

[@allisonkrueger8330]

0:51 she wrecked Robbie 😂😂

[@StewartFletcher]

It happens in every show. Characters buy into their own archetype and become more and more extreme versions of themselves

[@angedecastro2829]

i feel like the reason cat became more childish was because she never had a childhood, because of her traumatic home life.

[@OlanR24]

Season 2-4 Cat was alright, but I enjoyed Season 1 Cat a lot more. Mainly because she was slightly more intelligent and her voice actually sounded like a bubbly but mature teenage girl, not an annoying childish one (even though it was a tiny bit cute). But that's just me

[@strawberriesandpeaches9816]

Oh I definitely noticed. Her voice was deeper in the first season and I’d say she was more normal but then they dumbed down her character and her hair looked so much nicer before

[@genraymundo252]

1:17 the cutest no ever

[@Wonderfullussy]

Cat also wore heels in season 1-2 but in seasons 3-4 and in Sam and cat she doesn’t.

[@ladismakita9583]

I love the old Cat better before she got more annoying and dumber

[@yvesus7]

agreed.

[@confuzzled_waffle4377]

same

[@zorachanelh]

Right

[@maxi_patty]

I like the new one because she has more of a personality

[@ladismakita9583]

@@maxi_patty Whatever

[@yaraterveer6364]

She feels like a completely different person low key 😭

[@ursidae97]

Look, even at the most weird, she was a character in victorious. In Sam and Kat, she turned into a literal Muppet.

[@prasanthg740]

Season 1 cat is Season 4's elder sister.

[@Dalton_Boardman2000]

At this rate Season 9 Cat would've been non-verbal and in a wheelchair.

[@AntwunTheDancer]

This is how television works. They figure out what works for the characters through trial and error

[@anywayszx]

but isn’t it strange that they thought what ‘works’ for her character is acting like a literal infant

[@ECKohns]

This show is when I first noticed the concept of flanderization. Before I even knew of the term.

[@kireidoll]

I wonder if Ariana actually picked up on the cutesy behaviour irl because of her character, which has been such an ongoing thing with her (and which I love), or if she gradually made Cat more cute (and dumb) over time because that's what Ariana was like naturally as she grew up. Hm hm

[@xoxdesire]

She mentioned before that during that time of her career/yours truly era that she acted like Cat and took her personality bc she thought thats why the fans liked her. I do think people are thinking too deep into. Ariana has a voice thing she always does, sometimes her voice is deep like S1, sometimes she talks with a blaccent, then she talks like a high pitched baby. I think the character was dumb but the way Ariana was using that weird voice made it weirder. She talks baby like now still at 31 years old.

[@713HTX713]

It’s like she is getting younger as she gets older

[@NinjerBooterSouls]

You can tell creepy dan was behind the change.

[@hannahmichaels9992]

It really is just because of the writers but I wish that the way her character developed was planned, it’d be more interesting and at least we’d have a reason behind her kind of uncomfortable behavior

[@OlofTheBald]

This is how it goes once Dan "Hold Her Tighter, She's a Fighter" Schneider gets involved ✌️

[@user-nc3gh9pu6j]

WE DID. Im glad there’s a compilation

[@deazy6453]

If you remember the stories about her brother then you probably know why she changed so drastically. This show is kinda dark.

[@shiaxne]

I realized that Ariana lost a lot of weight coming down to the end and throughout Sam & Cat but she really caught herself back and is her true self again

[@j04370859]

She looked so much better, when she had more weight on her.

[@NyaCutie2024]

So she’s aging backwards. Which means in each season, she gets younger and younger! 🤣

[@kahlillej]

Something that i think NO ONE has actually caught on to is the fact that S1 Cat is very clearly a reference to the character Misty from Moody's Point in the Amanda Show. The hairstyle, the quirkiness, mood swings, even the "what's that supposed to mean" catchphrase all came from Misty's character and its crazy how I haven't seen anyone make that connection yet

[@oligifford6664]

I can kinda see why you’d say that. the girl with that baboon heart, yeah?

[@Gwizz1027]

Currently rewatching with a friend. We are stopping after season 2 due to this

[@KaidenHockett]

Shows usually change their characters after season 1 because season 1 is a tester to see how the show goes before they start making more changes and see what they like

[@Varian_is_crying]

In season 1 it makes more sense for her being best friends with jade, she had the "savage teen" vibe like jade but the writers ruined her character to make her act like a 10 year old child, honestly i think a 10 year old child is more mature than how she act sometimes TT idc who started but i blame Dan for everything, he's a weirdo.

[@greenowo6928]

I like newer cat tbh I grew up with her more

[@grlinpink]

Same

[@cunty545]

Fr

[@kyanna_lolz]

i kinda noticed js now how she slowly gets more anxious and paranoid probably overwhelmed within the seasons and in sam and cat too.

[@josephg6260]

Fun fact her season 1 catchphrase “ what’s that’s supposed to mean ? “ was rescued from a segment called moody point from the Amanda show :)

[@Leslygx3]

She was better as the quirky teen in season 1 . I liked that

[@SirButtah]

Characters sink further into their tropes all the time in sitcoms. It is fun to see the side by side, though.

[@aidendiamond5793]

“what’s that supposed to mean” is from Moodys Point haha

[@The_Devil_Breaker_]

"That's what's great about writing kids shows as a PDFile. The actresses get older, but I can keep her and her feet the saaame age"

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Matthew McConaughey?

[@The_Devil_Breaker_]

@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 yeah from that one movie

[@Some_Where_On_Venus]

Tbh her voice got higher she changed her hair and lost her catchphrase and got a little more bubbly

[@TheChelseaHanna]

I feel like I’ve never seen anyone mention that Season 1 Cat of Victorious is basically the EXACT same character as Misty from Moody’s Pointe on The Amanda Show. They both even have the “What’s that supposed to mean?” catchphrase

[@flowerpower7065]

She started out like the girl from amanda show. The girl who would constantly say “ whats that supposed to mean”

[@savagenature1]

Fan Theory Get ready to fall down a Rabbit Hole of speculation In the Episode "Rex Dies," Cat gets locked in the Hospital's Psych Ward and they NEVER reveal how she got out or how long she was in there. All we know is that they decided to call in "a specialist." 5 Episodes later, Season 2 happens and her voice suddenly changes, and well... you know the rest. It's anyone's guess what kind of tests the doctors put her through and medication they gave her while she was in the psych ward (for God knows how long). Not to mention there's a solid chance she was misdiagnosed from the get-go. Remember, she got put in there because she tried to describe Rex's accident to the nurse but came off sounding completely insane. When they finally released her, there's a good chance they prescribed her some medication. It's anyone's guess what that medication could be, but again, there's a good chance they misdiagnosed her and gave her medication for The Wrong Mental Disorder. From that point on, we have to wonder how long she may have continued to take this medication, or the long-term effects it could have had before someone realized she shouldn't be taking it... assuming she ever stopped taking it... Well, I'm going to stop there before I go in too deep, but feel free to continue on your own and tell me your thoughts :)

[@justjay3729]

Both are good characters. Just doesn’t make sense that they are the same character. Season 1 cat is naive and emotional, while Season 2-4 Cat is a childless cute airhead. I really enjoyed both

[@san1tyy]

It’s weird because as she got older she got younger

[@Ray_V]

I never noticed just how drastic the change was.

[@rai-z7y]

Same! 😭

[@laurentweet9254]

i just wanna say there was a character in the amanda show (another dan schnieder show) that was basically the same as season 1 cat even down to the "whats that supposed to mean?!?" catchphrase, so they probably changed her as time went on to separate her from that character

[@mirfallin4u]

season 1 cat>>>>>>

[@sk-eo8bq]

the dan schneider effect

[@AutisticInterests]

In season 1 Cat had an attitude, makes sense why she was friends with Jade. But after lobotomy, she and Jade were opposites

[@xxmxlissaxx]

ITS BEEN KILLING ME LITTERLY FINNALY SOMEONE NOTICES-

[@ThrillsAndChills33]

2:50 the fact that tori gave up so easily...

[@Inhalepens]

Pilot episode cat was like a completely different person from season 4 cat

[@coreanhall7416]

I never dived that deep with it. I figured Dan dumbed her down for shyts and giggles. He never needed logical reasons to change characters 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@user-ip2ev2bf8x]

the crazy part is that ariana seemingly doesn’t even talk like season 1 cat anymore. every interview i see now she sounds like current cat. but yes i remember cat being more regular and not just a cutesy dumb side character

[@jasmineartis5754]

It seems like this character bled into real life. The high voice she used during the show she still uses it to this day, and i remember her and big Sean having arguments about her talking in the voice.

[@HesJustSteven]

That’s probably her slowly losing brain cells because of life and her brother. Same effect after teaching kindergarten for two years

[@justanotherweirdo11]

"Twinkleaid" is crazy. 😭