Ask Dave: Motorcycle Ergonomics

www.DaveMossTuning.com
Dave addresses hand, feet, and leg ergonomics. Even the most average motorcycle can be custom fit to suit the rider, something restricted to all but the most expensive models in the car world.
www.DaveMossTuning.com

[@saakibmulla6991]

Am not sure if my comment will be read, but I really appreciate the valuable information you share Sir, the information you share is not generally accessible to many, if not accessible it's too expensive to get to places that teach you. Thank you for the videos and all the knowledge you impart.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Every comment is read and thank you for your kind words! I am glad that you are using the content to learn from!

[@erwinlommer197]

I just came across this channel! Amazing videos. I'm going to go over my bike tomorrow and check everything!

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Thank you for watching and your kind words. There is a lot of information here so work in sections like ergonomics, sag, fork and shock travel used, tyre pressures etc. Take your time with each section!

[@adamp834]

Gorgeous racing bike

[@Nceb]

Great video. I recently purchased RST Tractech Evo 3 CE Boots and on my first ride, it was uncomfortable and unnatural to up-shift. I had to point my toe down to the ground first in order to clear the shift pedal, and then be able to up-shift. Adjusting the shift pedal is very simple to do: loosen the top and bottom nut of the shift pedal, and hand twist the shift pedal rod clockwise and anti-clockwise to raise or lower the shift pedal. Hop on the bike again and check with your motorcycle riding boot, or whatever footwear you use to ride. If satisfied, then tighten up the two nuts, and you're good to go.

[@tonyalanmarchant9099]

Nceb just got the same boots an same problem?got my old boots out no problem

[@SuPpOsEdLyThIsIsCoOl]

Exactly what I did with them boots

[@rajasekhar9840]

Some don’t understand why their motorcycle is so uncomfortable for them. Ergonomics is such an important topic to make riding experience enjoyable and less fatigue. Keep it up Dave, you’re awesome 👍

[@roarkshsha]

So much in a short video. Not one question, but many question answered. Nice. Thank you.

[@MrGhirbo]

ty for the info 05:22 now i know that i need rearsets, as my knee & thigh are not following the curvature of the tank. I was blaming the manufacteurer for making a shity tank lol. I dont feel locked in with my legs.

[@tomorrowtoday4839]

Thank you, I just got a new bike and this is invaluable. I want you to help set up my bike but so far I keep missing your appearances. But it will happen!

[@Shaft0]

I just found this channel. Thanks so much for all the videos to learn from.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

My pleasure. Don't forget to subscribe at www.davemosstuning.com to learn more via newsletters etc!

[@theones261]

i agree middle finger has a lot of sensitivity among other fingers in every ways.

[@triumphtriumphant7352]

i think before they teach you how to ride in riding schools /wherever/whatever.They should first show you how to sit/fit the bike to you.you forgot to emphasis adjustments less than or more than 20mm can make a world in difference in COMFORT=CONTROL=HANDLING.I WONDER IF THAT IS A FACTOR OF SOME BIKE REVIEWS(UNDER THE TABLE DEAL) WITH REVIEWER BEING IGNORANT.OR THESE ADJUSTMENTS CAN MEAN LIFE OR DEATH.HMMNNNNNNNNN.Awesome intro and info on the subject ,thank you for giving back ,i personally appreciate ,most would take this for granted!

[@D1Squid]

I love you Dave moss ❤

[@bdraidian6280]

I wish there was someone like this in my area. I’d definitely pay to have a professional tuning/ergonomic personal setup.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

That's why I developed Remote Tune. Use your phone or other device so I can help you get it right in your own garage! Technology brings me to your house :). davemosstuning.com/remote-tuning/

[@bdraidian6280]

@@catalystreactionsbw awesome. As soon as I get my bike back from dealer I’ll definitely be looking into this. Thank you very much. Edit: I just now watched the video. Guess I should have watched the video before commenting. Lol.

[@JaisEdelmann]

Great video thanks 👍👍

[@cachidril]

Hi Dave, I like to hear a little bit more about the rearsets position, thanks

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Dave Williams, editor, replying. Here are some videos about it. this one features aftermarket rearsets feelthetrack.com/how-to-adjusting-aftermarket-rearsets-foot-rests/ and this one stock rearsets. feelthetrack.com/how-to-foot-control-adjustability/

[@cachidril]

thank you Dave !!!!

[@amazinghappiness7692]

Good stuff, Thank you!

[@blainehouser4354]

Great Video!

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Thank you, hope you can leverage the content to work on your own motorcycle.

[@sayhai]

I have a pair of those Skechers, no doubt it's comfy and light.

[@LibertyDIY]

Great info as always thanks Dave

[@worldhello1234]

@4:13 Ach Dave, dude. Even if they would care about your shoe size, there is no way around adjustment because there are too many variables. :)

[@sphinx19]

Thanks!

[@triumphtriumphant7352]

also dont get me started on rider will skill get techniques to ride around limited or basic engineering,which is sold on mainstream as the best,such as normal front forks/suspension!would you make a video on non conventional designs available that keep even wheelbase/geometry?anyways without diving deep ,its basically having more understanding of the bike its limits how to overcome them,the ones that can be etc.

[@BOBimusRex]

Question: Is there a good reason not to put a pillow on your tank and lay against it on long trips? I want a sportbike. But I want it for road trips. Ive had a few bikes in years past, but never a sport bike. Seems to me you could put a pillow on the tank and be pretty comfy for long distances in basically full tuck. Yeah? No?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Great question regarding making yourself comfortable. There are conversions for standard handlebars to be used. You can get a custom seat or use something like sheepskin on the seat. For the tank, I have seen high density foam glued on the tank to take the weight of the torso. There are many solutions, but in regards to the tank, all are fixed in place.

[@Shan-sg7mm]

Dave your are bike Spartacus 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@themodiste503]

Hi dave hope you are doing fine great content and information First i am watching this video not as a sport bike owner but as a regular commuter bike owner .iam having the same issue and iam feeling my self cornered because of lack of information on what do now . Please tell me what to do to get out of this situation . If i follow the knuckles along the handle bar i feel myself in a awkward position and other wise i create a pressure point ? And whats effects are there going to be while counter steering ? Please do reply i am bike enthusiast but due to 2/3 matters my enthusiasm is getting low and have started to feel riding as a burden !

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Can you move the handlbars forward or backward? That will help you a great deal AFTER, you get the levers in the correct position/angle.

[@themodiste503]

Dave Moss Tuning glad you replied thanks dream come true moment for me !😅😇 The i can only adjust the pull back from the handle bar clamps ! On more thing i forgot to mention i take this on offroad tracks as well !

[@themodiste503]

Dave Moss Tuning waiting for your answer 😇😅?

[@chrisusmcvet3435]

Are they the same on a a dual sport like a Multistrada?

[@slavenleko]

Dave greetings from Croatia. Please help. I am 184cm tall and have a problem riding my 2004 Kawasaki Ninja zx636r motorcycle. I would like to open the handles a little more, ie move them away from me so that they are not close to the tank. I don't know if this can be done? I like your videos, and tips.

[@sudeep023]

I have this 2021 S1000RR which i want to tune ergonomically so please help me to get that

[@catalystreactionsbw]

You can use the ergonomic videos that deal with bars, lever angles and reach or I can help yu via 1-1 video via Remote Tuning.

[@2391jessie]

What about the screwdriver grip (on the throttle side)?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

For those that are advanced enough with body position based on the fact that they have the speed to support that lean angle etc, ONLY at that time does that become essential knowledge.

[@wilmersaludaga466]

I’ve always had a feeling my bar angle is uncomfortable

[@publicsanchez2986]

oh that finger is really powerful alright... :-)

[@supreme5378]

This video like treasure👍

[@fingerscrossed2317]

Interesting stuff.. I bought myself 3 years ago a new hornet 600. Years before that I Bought a lenker from.a hornet 600. Because the original handlebar was to thick for Rizoma grips I used 'that handlebar'. The strange thing about it was that also the bending was mutch more straight. The ergonomics are know just the way it should be. But I don't understand why there is just so mutch difference between these to handlebars or is this normal ? Greets Alexander

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Handlebars will always come in different shapes, different grip widths and different over end to end measurements. Manufacturers have to provide something but when you deal with 5 feet tall to 7 feet tall, one bar cannot work for everyone hence the vast array of aftermarket parts we are able to access.

[@fingerscrossed2317]

Dave Moss Tuning hi, thank you for the reply. That is what I understand that you can make it your own with for example changing the your bike with a aftermarket handlebar. But one model shouldn't have different sizes handlebar original, there are though some tolleranties where they fall in ? They are in my case of a hornet 600 2012 not public.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

If it fits you by moving the bars, great!

[@fingerscrossed2317]

Dave Moss Tuning yes your right 👍

[@koofdome]

What would cause hip pain/tightness on a motorcycle? Kinda below the hip bone/groin. I'm 6'4 so I'm tall and my cb650F is a naked bike but still cramps me there

[@catalystreactionsbw]

You need a 30-35mm taller seat to open the angle in your knee and relieve the stress on the femur joint with the hip. Put a towel on the seat and ride around where you live (city streets) to feel the difference initially.

[@koofdome]

Dave Moss Tuning wow okay! Thank you. I thought about getting a Corbin seat. That seems taller yeah? Plus the OEM seats are rock hard.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

@@koofdome Not necessarily, but they can make it taller. Find the height you need first before you go to Corbin so you know the knee angle you must have. Then tell them what height it needs to be. Once that is confirmed, then they will shape it to you.

[@Atlas_FPV]

If you buy the year subscription on the website, does it unlock the youtube channel content too? Or have you got to go through the website to see the videos?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

The KZbin channel locked content will be removed in due course now that Total Access is working. All free videos will stay on KZbin. Current Premium/old DMT2 content is now located on the website.

[@Atlas_FPV]

Ok thanks for the clear reply.

[@tomb8430]

Hey Dave, I am thinking about heli bars for my 2013 cbr1000rr. I use it mainly as a daily rider. I'm getting older so it's getting harder riding around folded up like a paperclip. What do you think of the helibars for more comfort?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Step 1. Sit on the bike and close your eyes - then put your fists where you want them. Will Heli Bars reach your hands? Will another brand? Di you then need different length cables and hoses? Heli Bars are world renown so there is no problem for quality. The question is, what will fit you best with your needs!

[@arminprnjavorac2084]

The screenshot pic looks like someone is getting an enema with a red hose. Took a while :F

[@viogheorghe317]

👍👏👏👏

[@chucke3305]

I need handlebars that need to be forward,09r1 where do i get them and mostly what are they called?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Look at Driven, Vortex and Woodcraft. Driven is the company that helps me a lot so look at the different clip on mounts that place the bar in front of the forks. www.drivenracing.com/catalog/clip-ons

[@chucke3305]

Ok,thanks but they have different types though.

[@brianglendenning1632]

chuck e m

[@juansantos1614]

So complex!!

[@RexyFan]

Hi Dave Do you have a setup in Brisbane Australia I could visit to get my bike set up correctly ?

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Steel Horse was the company that I did some seminars at in the past.

[@TheMargub]

,👏👏👏

[@DrDre-sy2kv]

the thenar hypothenar need to be gentle

[@unclesesi5559]

Lol I have the same pair of shoes. I wear these to the gym. I can't imagine you riding with them though, because they're very "squishy"

[@fuahrahn]

Shame that is no Dave Moss in Moscow...

[@lehsamkaramdin8969]

Na its, Middle Finger.

[@Bredaxe]

These new crotch rockets are made for horse jockey sized riders.

[@angelcastellanosmartinez2412]

Once again, I dont care if you delete again my comment, Thats WRONG! You are adjusting the handlebar on a position ''Sunday morning street riding'', as if on a NON Sport bike. As soon as you get into track, your body position will change, your elbows will go inside and your head and body down, so your knuckes will match the narrowed angle of the handle bar of a SPORT bike. Now, if you want to lock your elbows and drive with your chin up looking at the girls while riding at Santa Monica's beach, then you will be fine, open the angle all the way, and lift it up aswell so you can drive very confy.

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Dave Williams, editor, replying here. Yes, you're correct. You should make the adjustments to fit YOUR posture on the bike for the type of riding and environment YOU ride in. Mr. Moss is demonstrating HIS posture on that bike for an average riding pace; "Sunday morning street riding," as you put it. The angles and positions may or may not be different on his race bike, because we posture-up at those moments when we operate the hand controls.

[@bailey9r]

Angel; Look for super sports ergonomics (Dave Moss) for that side of the equation.

[@angelcastellanosmartinez2412]

@@bailey9r ...i have already been talking to Dave in two of those videos a year a go. Dave Moss teaching is focused mostly for track riding. So i insist, confy adjustments in a sport bike is irrelevant for track days. And moreover when the rider at the track is getting a set up with a confy head up and straight arms position. Like shown to a girl in a Dave Moss video. It is fine if you go for hours as i do in my gsxr up to mountains. But even getting tired at neck and wrist, i dont change it, as i do track days too. The day i stop riding in Cheste, Spain, i will buy a Streetfighter,, a naked z900 for example. Or i will change clips on for a handle bar, risers o whatever. Meanwhile, my unconfortable Sporty Gsxr gives me the perfect set up and angle when track riding.....because my body is head down, elbows in, body out to left, body out to right. That simple. I saw in the boxes on track days, teenagers changing the angle of the handles to closer angle because when leaning they wished to have longer arms as the handle got far from their hand and body with a confy open angle, making it dificult to manage clutch (when leaning right) or front brake (when leaning left). And believe me, those youngsters are kamikazes, they lean a lot to touch elbows down.

[@bailey9r]

@@angelcastellanosmartinez2412 Well if you insist...;

[@parthivbomma6570]

Same shit over and over

[@catalystreactionsbw]

Dave Williams, editor, replying here. Ouch. Maybe give us a hug first, then kick us in the nuts. Are there any topics you would like us to tackle?