Catherine's NOT Great Mom - Worst Moms in History

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[@extrahistory]

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Your Catherine the Great series is amazing 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@extrahistory]

@@danielsantiagourtado3430 Thank you! 🥰

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

@@extrahistory np

[@sevenguardians7517]

@@extrahistoryhey your link doesn’t work

[@hackerbrinelam5381]

Can we have the story of Catherine the Great herself as Worse Mom in History shorts, definitely seen the series long before shorts even is a thng

[@captainpalegg2860]

huge props to whosever idea it was to seat her alone in a separate room. only way to handle that situation, really.

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

The former Empress

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

That would've been empress Elizabeth

[@rattheninja2877]

⁠Hail to the Empress

[@FastTquick]

Imagine being so petty you throw a tantrum because of your seat placement at a banquet.

[@seandoesnpcshit]

💀

[@TheCorazonPawprint]

I literally died when I saw that 💀

[@ionglatenasului3931]

First Karen

[@castrinecubique983]

You obviously never met my mother. She plots to create stuff to have fits about. Some people are hopelessly crazy. And rich people are often enabled in their worst traits. Add all this, and having a tantrum for a seat is no longer a ridiculous notion.

[@Earthnevevo]

​@@castrinecubique983god, a friend of mine's aunt is utterly crazy, it's mad.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Catherine herself was also not mother of the year material. Poor paul😢😢😢😢😢

[@galaxiesplantcorner9328]

I don't think she understood how to be a good parent because of what her mother did to her

[@squiglemcsquigle8414]

Tbf pauls father was uhm well lets say the same as nicholas and paul sas very much his fathers son

[@eldritchcupcakes3195]

I mean obviously, i don’t think they had therapy then so she would’ve just thought this was the norma way to raise kids

[@conspiracy_risk7526]

I'm unfamiliar with her, what did she do to her son Paul?

[@noahjohnson935]

​@@squiglemcsquigle8414 because he didn't have any real role models growing up. His mom kept him isolated.

[@klausoshaunacey8429]

Okay, but the empress seating her in a room by herself is such a serve I’m obsessed

[@JackFrostTWW]

Right? I'm just imagining the empress going "Go sit in that room and think about what you've done!" Like a disappointed mother

[@ErinJessica83]

So true

[@WolfofStar]

@@JackFrostTWWthat and you know it was prob hella embarrassing for her to have to send her to a separate room like just imagine being there

[@j.d.4241]

That's the cool-down technique ABA tech uses in behavior therapy for children.

[@sweethistortea]

Catherine’s mother reminds me of those entitled pageant moms.

[@Xalerdane]

She probably rules over the Pageant Mom Wing of Hell.

[@shirabe64]

This is actually an apt description. She tried to parade her daughter around where she could to look impressive, showing up in her best dresses. Now it did give Sophia the chance to meet the King of Prussia ie Frederick the Great, and Sophia impressed him with her intelligence and conversation. He actually sent another invitation to a fancy banquet for everyone to meet her, and her mother DIDN’T BRING HER. She pulled out all stops on her looks so she could rub elbows with nobles and overlooked she wasn’t the one they wanted. The king had to put it bluntly for her and say Where is Sophia? Go bring her.

[@God-T]

nah she a karen

[@TheBrokenTelevision-R]

That’s Judy garlands mom in my opinion

[@redmadness265]

​@@XalerdanexD

[@niceguyofgames9490]

Catherine’s Mom: *tries to get her daughter married* Catherine: *gets married* Catherine’s Mom: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@mattsheng]

Lol 😂

[@kitotkek]

You know, all children deserve parents, but not all grownups deserve children. Some people may argue that some children are so bad they don't deserve parents, but this is almost always due to bad parenting or too many restrictions.

[@reyoscura9229]

This sounds smart but it is just circular reasoning....some people grow up evil no matter how healthy nurturing and stable development they recieve from their parents

[@brookelynnwu8016]

People who argue that are stupid and insecure about their own terrible parenting. 😂

[@Raptor_Ren]

@@reyoscura9229It is rarer than someone growing up terrible because they had a terrible parent though.

[@dante_0962]

Or lack of restrictions.

[@veronicarodriguez1751]

​​​@@reyoscura9229 No one's inherently evil or good. There are many reasons a child might hurt others, but there's never no reason (doesn't justify it, but it should be acknowledged). For example, friends or relatives who model bad behavior, or anyone else other than the parents they spend a lotta time with. The parents might also be accidentally doing the same thing

[@itsjustme7487]

Good to know that narcissism is not a recent mental issue.

[@damienasmodeus928]

bruh, the word itself "narcissism" originates from ancient Greece.

[@Seven71987]

It has existed for a long time

[@godhimself1128]

This is the neediness and entitlement great wealth and privilege demands

[@miss42310]

I'm sure it was way worse then

[@AustroHungarianEmpire1867]

If she was alive during the 2000s, she would be the perfect pageant mom.

[@nikolaideianov5092]

That or in prison

[@carloshotrod1302]

Both beauty pageants should be outlawed

[@other_md]

Ive learn more from this channel then the entire year ive been in highschool

[@lexi1031]

Same

[@gamingrat842]

Same

[@midgetman4206]

Then maybe you should start paying attention.

[@lexi1031]

@@midgetman4206 I would, if they even taught anything.

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@midgetman4206you have way too much faith in the education system

[@stuffie5175]

Basically every reddit “entitled mother ruins my wedding” story

[@thenexus8384]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a reddit story that's nearly identical to this

[@shrs06_]

Woman threw a tantrum so bad that she had to sit in a corner alone

[@varlenthamurtinez]

Johanna: I don’t wanna sit here! Peter lll: alright let’s put you in time out

[@Boop__Doop]

Johana: SOPHIA MARRY SOMEONE! sophia:*marries someone* Johana: no this isnt how you are supposed to play the game

[@johnnydarling8021]

I think we all have a relative that would be best seated in another room by themselves.

[@abbymatson5149]

I've been waiting for Catherine the Great's mom to appear in this series

[@retrogotgamez]

"she never saw her daughter again" Thank God

[@yinyangyt8749]

Remember folks. If you think your mom is being unreasonable. Just think of this woman here

[@ILOVETHEHOLYLAND]

Sometimes people can also stupe down in personality and reach a point like this.

[@terra__incognita]

My mother is currently throwing a fit because my grandmother, her mother, doesn't want to share private medical information with her. My grandma has breast cancer and is worried that if she knows, my mother will show up at the hospital when she's receiving treatment and make a scene. She is right to be concerned.

[@keynanmartinez]

Yes

[@Brit626]

Johanna was all ariund a terrible, cruel person. I remember reading about the king of Prussia sending them money so that way Catherine (then Sophia), would have something presentable to wear when meeting the sovereign. Imagine their surprise when Johanna enters, dressed to the nines, and her child follows in a dress two sizes too small. Frederick had to ask if there was something suitable for her to wear. The dress was a little big on her, but she was plesant enough.

[@SantyTheStar]

One of the first Karens ever registered

[@williamreeves8182]

😂😂

[@tommibear4013]

Kathren

[@AustroHungarianEmpire1867]

"I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR EMPEROR..!"

[@zoecolquitt1355]

What about Christina of Sweden mom Maria Eleonora of Brandenburg She literally made fun of her child for having being born with a heredity condition

[@zozobdair9971]

​@@tommibear4013love the pun

[@ddunfuh9239]

If i remember correctly wasn’t Catherine the great also not a very good mother either

[@mr.r.r.o.b]

All the worst moms so far have been under protective Catherine was over protective which is apparently good or attest not bad

[@AuskaDezjArdamaath]

Not for lack of wanting. Her MiL took her children away at birth to raise them herself and practically discarded Catherine since her “duty” of bearing an heir was done.

[@anonymouscausewhynot]

And we can thank her mother for that.

[@Albinojackrussel]

It's something you'll see a lot of you start looking into the personal lives of historical rulers. So much generational trauma. For example, queen Victoria's mother was wildly abusive, victoria herself was then also pretty abusive, and made a mess of her own children and grandchild, at which point we get to Tsarina Alexandra, the last Tsarina of Russia who also wildly abused her own children. The cycle stops there, for obvious reasons.

[@fromtherussianpointofview]

Cathrine feared her son because he was the rightful heir to the throne and she was technically supposed to rule until he becomes of age. She spread rumours that Pavel wasn't Peter's son to make sure he wouldn't overthrow her. She ordered a grown woman to get impregnated by her 17yo son to make sure he's able to produce an heir after a severe illness. She took away all his sons, including the one who was born from the aforementioned event. She forced him to give up the only land he inherited from his father. She knew Pavel's first wife was abusive and unfaithful but didn't care. She made sure to celebrate any other event during her son's birthday so that people wouldn't notice he's of age and can take his rightful throne. I actually have a video about her and Paul, if you are interested to hear more

[@VSaber365]

Wow, she sounds like one of THE original Karen Moms *WAY* before "Karens" were ever an actual thing at all.

[@cardinalhamneggs5253]

That’s an Entitled Mom right there, if I ever saw one.

[@SarahAbramova]

She really tried to live her dream through her daughter

[@londonworkman4478]

Giant pandas pick favorites between cubs all the time to the point where the unwanted cub actually starves to death 🐼💀

[@giorgospapoutsakis5271]

Irrelevant

[@edwardscott3262]

Lots of animals are known to do that. I laugh at people who think nature is like a Disney movie.

[@lerlmibea4792]

Love how she was put in timeout in the other dining room

[@fromtherussianpointofview]

A lot of people are saying Catherine was a bad mother because her son was taken away from her. Let's not forget that she got him back then he was 7. I also read her diaries and she spent more time discussing the jewellery she didn't receive for giving birth than talking about her son. She never loved Paul and that's the sad truth. At least Paul turned out to be a caring father.

[@Brit626]

Ouch, I didn't know that! I had just assumed it was because Catherine wasn't given enough time to bond with the baby. I read that when reminiscing about him after his assassination, his children remember their father playing with them and rolling around on the floor. I think it's kind of cute.

[@cerice2000]

This is the episodes that led me to this channel and I go back to them often, thank you for the awesome content

[@Moon-yy3gb]

She acts like Rashta from The Remarried Empress if you know you know

[@Brit626]

Nah, Rashta wouldn't have the heart to take from her kid like Johanna.

[@andrewmlink]

They put her in a timeout at the dinner 💀

[@nkyfong]

Yup, she sounds like my grandma. My maternal grandmother. My paternal one is pretty chill.

[@theoceancookie]

this is literally a fantacy romance webtoon

[@AquaranSocialistRepublic]

Catherine the Great: A true chad. Catherine the Great's mother: A petty crybaby.

[@kringle7804]

cath as a mom was also sorta mid lets say she fumbled the bag with a potentially great successor

[@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594]

Sophia’s mom and Frederick’s Dad would ba a match made in hell

[@zoecolquitt1355]

I second the motion is there a karen/Ken ring of hell

[@tristandaries1129]

Bro imagine being a fully grown adult and your daughter puts you in a time out room

[@MemePhisher]

She really said "Достижения"(goodbye

[@hatred9427]

Bro, imagine the embarrassment of having a princess offer a seat to your mother because she won't stop throwing a tantrum

[@mikeg2306]

When will you do Irene of Athens? A one-off (like you did for WU-Zaitan) would be great. VERY interesting life.

[@zogkuma]

Catherine, herself, was a pretty bad mother too, but in a more passive aggressive way. She treated her son like his father in the worst way possible by never taking him seriously, and keeping him out of court affairs up until she died.

[@fromtherussianpointofview]

It is pretty much a given that she was the inspiration behind Pavel's murder by his two oldest sons.

[@Kaiserboo1871]

@@fromtherussianpointofview I’ve never heard of this. She was dead for 5 years when Paul was killed.

[@fromtherussianpointofview]

@@Kaiserboo1871 Basically, she never wanted her son on the throne and always wanted her grandson to take the place. But she couldn't do it legally. So, most historians in Russia believed that she raised Alexander and Konstantin with the thought that they need to get rid of their father. So, while she was dead at the time this happened, she was the one who wanted and inspired the murder

[@Axophantom]

Her name in Russian is pronounced “Yekaterina”

[@smc0718]

Ohhh so that's what that one Russian city is named after.

[@-littlemisslugubrious-3033]

Many parents with narcissism are like this, completely.

[@moonseaeeveelutionsdance8863]

Cersei Lannsister core lmao

[@EvaA_12345]

This is such a nice way to teach. I honestly learn a lot and have so much fun watching these videos. Thank you for all the hard work

[@noahroangoldwing]

We should do a series on best moms in history. Just for a dose of positivity. Mary Washington was pretty cool according to a book I read as a kid

[@GeneralPuppet]

Ironic

[@DruidScapes]

add kidnapping and few attempted murders. and you got to plot historical romance novel.

[@rexblade504]

"Empress Catherine of Russia was pretty great" The Polish side of me would like to beg to differ!

[@Brandonhayhew]

being an aristocratic your children are bargained chips

[@desiraetaylor-zq2vq]

I know a lot of commenters are also bring up that Catherine wasn't a good mother. But in her defense she didn't have a great example as well as she saw a lot of her husband that she overthrow in her son so she was worried. He would end up like him sadly In the end, she was right, but if she probably would have parented him better. It probably wouldn't have been that way.

[@stephenjenkins7971]

Not an excuse. Still a bad mom.

[@dushistaya]

​@@stephenjenkins7971 Она их даже не воспитывала лол, ее детей отобрала сразу же после родов императрица, после родов все ушли хотя она звала и кричала _часами_.

[@desiraetaylor-zq2vq]

@@stephenjenkins7971 Oh, most definitely, i'm just saying there are layers to it like onions. And what she tried to not creat she up creating by being a bad mom and I think it's mostly because all she knew was either to ignore her child or to be abusive, and she chose the Ladder, not saying either were the right thing for her to do.

[@fromtherussianpointofview]

She got her son back at 7. Paul was still a child, there is no excuse to her behaviour.

[@jujuoof174]

History repeats itself it seems, poor Catherin

[@Joseanzinho-cq7zf]

I Love This Series

[@zoecolquitt1355]

Johanna: i demand to speak to the manager Czarina Elizaevta Petrova: u can eat alone

[@stacyowl1658]

Narcissistic mothers… wish I weren’t so familiar with it

[@nerdydrawer7265]

It’s sad that this pattern of neglecting your child in favor of your goals seemed to ripple into Catherine’s own parenting

[@tgiacin435]

Is that the same Catherine the Great that supposedly had an interesting fascination with horses?

[@GeneralPuppet]

Probs not true

[@tgiacin435]

@@GeneralPuppet idk, apparently she had a machine made, i just wish there was a definitive answer to it

[@kenetabansi5016]

@@tgiacin435there is and it’s not true. It was a rumor made up to undermine here and the fact that she had many suitors

[@winterspectre]

It's not true.

[@tgiacin435]

@@winterspectre shame, that’s another piece of weird history that was false

[@abigaillilac1370]

She reminds me of my mom. My mom was so upset I was getting all the attention on my 18th birthday, she got violent and took it out on me.

[@19WolfGirl74]

The Hulu series The Great would be so much better if they had included this! I know it’s a comedy that very rarely follows facts, but these are things that would have fit the show so well

[@taliaumen232]

Him: "Empress Katherine of Russia was pretty great" Me(remembering her life, choises, political decisions, death, etc): Do you really think so?

[@Nocny_Informator]

I will never forgive her for destroying Poland

[@edwardcamp3376]

Narcissism is a heck of a drug.

[@ShyyGaladriel]

Now that is classic narcissistic behavior.

[@dkznikolaj7013]

It's strange, but even today its not that uncommon for mothers to be jealous of and loathe their own daughters. Ofc, its rare, but compared to what you'd think, it's downright common.

[@bthsr7113]

And then she turned into a terrible mother herself down the line because of it.

[@mitab1]

Can you please make a "best dad/mom in history" series? I really hear about actual good parents in history

[@TheMurphyTwin]

You should make Best Moms in History!!

[@Sad_Stones_Of_Wheels]

that sounds like a good idea actually

[@Sugaro_x]

this sounds like a villainess revenge manhwa

[@FineTuxedo]

Can you do a video on my mom?

[@cobble616]

Holy crap i was just using your full length videos on catherine for a history project earlier today lol

[@uni8514]

I hate that the age is brushed off??? I had to look this up she gave birth at SIXTEEN. of course she was a awful mother that’s a whole child!! Omg????

[@Sehr-sj3xg]

Bruh many peasant that time give birth at age 14 and they make great mother

[@THE-LIL-ARTIST]

My teacher put on your video in front of the class when learning about the jacobites (the battle of culloden video)

[@ivoernstsen7819]

Catherine was not so very great to little Ivan VI

[@sixbones.infamy9107]

Ouu, time to look into that

[@Mamafakerr]

This Art style Is Better Then the Other Ones! GoodJob 👍🏻

[@INOT_ETHAN_THE_SHY_BOY]

Can you do the opposite of best mom of historia of father!!!!❤

[@TheEfamilyocs_meow]

We need more of this. This series is amazing as frick!

[@jaba-_-]

Catherine was NOT great.

[@saucy743]

Why not?

[@ILikeAlotofThings-SLS]

She tried to get rid of minorites especilly Ukrainians who were basickly told that they were little russians and not thiere own peopole now and should except that

[@indonesianmapping9371]

I missed this artstyle fr. Thanks yo

[@ВалерійМайборода-й3э]

"Empress Yekaterina was pretty great" Cossaks in 1775: 🙂😐💀

[@NokiaTheReuploader]

Maybe because she did a lot for her nation, such a big mystery

[@ВалерійМайборода-й3э]

@@NokiaTheReuploader Are you kidding me?

[@NokiaTheReuploader]

@@ВалерійМайборода-й3э no im not, Her greatest accomplishments include: establishing educational reform, championing the arts, and extending Russia’s borders in the largest territorial gain since Ivan the Terrible. Just because she supressed a cossack rebellion doesent mean she wasnt great, she did more for her country than most of the modern leaders, and calling someone ''Great'' is based on accomplishments for their countries, not if you like someone or not. So yes, she deserved the title great.

[@Frogglefr]

Catherine’s mother is also distantly related to Queen Elizabeth II

[@redfacegames293]

bros talking too fast lol

[@matthewwicht1541]

You guys need to do a video on Irene of Athens - she’s 100% the worst mom in history

[@neoxus30]

I'd

[@galaxianinsomniac9953]

I thought he said "Historical hot goths" at the end, and man am I somewhat disappointed.

[@Familyguygaming]

Smash

[@sparkyplace]

This is a great series! Y’all should do Irene of Athens next.

[@safwantheprosafwan]

This man makes history actually fun

[@dragonsfire286]

Hehehe

[@pukezz]

This artstyle is so neat imo, I'm here for it

[@DelNiceBeto]

"i want my children to have a better life than me" Parents when their kids have a better life

[@crimeworkers130]

Catherine Mom is so narcissistic its amazing Catherine ended up sane at all

[@templin7]

It’s times like this where I remember that historical figures had a sense of humor lol

[@Waxing_Gibbous2010]

famous people that had worst dads: atleast my mom cares about me their mom: nuh uh

[@TheGamerInDisguise]

Damn, sounds like my mother.

[@h3llolime222]

sounds like a narcissist. her daughter was scapegoat. her son was the golden child. she couldn’t handle it when her daughter was more popular than her.

[@MusicalComparisons]

I dont think ill ever forget when I watched this channels Catherine the Great series its one of my favourites

[@maverickcrow6252]

Pretty tame for some of the mothers i've seen on here.

[@Jay-fq9yl]

This channel use to be everything to me and I still love jt

[@hotnspiceymemes3278]

This is my new favorite series

[@patanu]

She's the prime example of the quote "You better fix my life you little sh-"

[@wd3185]

Ah, the music in the background sent me on such a nostalgia trip.

[@mayrarodriquez8835]

At least she didn’t kill.

[@Starchild719]

It's kind of amazing that Catherine was even a little bit better than her mother at being one

[@tyler5914]

Idk why but every time I watch one of these shorts (worst in history) I get a line at work or it gets busy at work. 😂