Catholic priests in France: A life of celibacy? • FRANCE 24 English

[@ireneusjustinpolicarp8628]

The Catholic Church has 20+ different rites. Those who cannot practice celibacy can go to those other rites. Why stick around the Latin rite and mess around with tradition.

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

@@ireneusjustinpolicarp8628 A Latin rite (Roman Catholic) can only change to another rite with the permission of his cuurent bishop.. The bishop would more than likely ask for an extended period of discernment on the part of the applicant..

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

The Priesthoood is not just a job or a career. You are called to help others grow in holiness. How can you possibly do that if you arent able to do that yourself? Holiness requires dying to self, carrying your cross knowing there is a greater reward awaiting. There are two decisions that must be made, but it must be made sequentially. The first is: Am I called to celibacy? Its a matter of discernment and honesty. Only then, if the answer is yes, should the second question be considered: Am I called to the Priesthood? - Priest, ordained 2004

[@jlover911]

you are called by who?? you are unable to function in open society so you hide behind your white priest collar.

[@johnmollish7301]

That reasoning is questionable.

[@cloudberry27]

Finally! Forcing priests to live an oppressed life has always caused problems. Love is gods gift.

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

@@cloudberry27 Love is expressed through many ways not just sexual. In the Priesthood love is expressed through self-denial. All authentic love requires sacrifice..

[@michaelciccone2194]

The RCC has given many dispensations to priests and nuns who wanted to leave the RC priesthood or convent.

[@ingoditrust7784]

Awful situation: such a priest consecrates the Eucharist in a sacrilegious way, may God have mercy on him and give him the grace he needs to come back to his senses. If he were coherent, he should actually request a time out, then make up his mind about the reality of his situation.

[@Newgrist]

I am a parish pastor, but a Protestant. Even though I am unmarried, it is an option for me if or when I meet someone. Enforced celibacy in the Catholic Church is unwise for a host of reasons. It needs to be abolished.

[@WNdaba]

France 24 is dangerous . They deleted my message . I am coming to marry you. I know you have been waiting for me. 😂😂😂

[@petermacander2061]

SPOKEN AS THE TRUE SCHISMATIC THAT YOU AND YOUR MAN-MADE "CHURCH" ARE.

[@kathleenscheidt7339]

Breaking their vows of celibacy encourages a climate of secrecy

[@JohnVianneyPatron]

For you being a priest is a job. For Catholics, the priesthood is a sacrament. There is a huge difference!

[@DarkKnight-bi7cr]

No you don’t get it. A priest is a servant of the people. How can he serve the people when he has a people. They have been chosen in this world to lead people to Christ. They will suffer. But they will be greatly rewarded in heaven. Remember this.

[@Mohamed-uc9mb]

What makes you think bible is the truth or the word of GOD? A word of god shouldn’t contain contradictions. What makes you think Jesus Christ said he was a God or worship me?

[@o_d2925]

A blind cause you have no proof of. This very institution burned libraries to erase the truth of its origins.

[@wayneshandera4975]

The church had married priests fit the first millennium

[@ingoditrust7784]

​@@Mohamed-uc9mbhiw about you look for contradictions in your "holy book"? Please spare us. Peace

[@glee4694]

Chosen by whom?

[@francescogorbechov4192]

Um.... monks have to be celibate too

[@jackmorrison7379]

Let them marry. After all, they already have a few married priests in the Latin rite. Converts from either Anglicanism or Lutheranism. They also have married clergy in the Eastern Rite Catholics. As this priest said, in seminary it was mostly young gays in refuge. They claim not to want THEM, but if celibacy is the only option, it will always be mostly THEM as priests.

[@johnfisher247]

Married clergy answers nothing..its the French decadence and promiscuity.

[@anonUK]

​@@johnfisher247 As opposed to British or American decadence and promiscuity? Where do you get your idea of France from- Allo Allo?

[@vickydestephano7415]

The church can develop in new ways. Celibacy isn't something the flock practices.

[@joannhacker9120]

I think celibacy should be encouraged but not mandatory. A Priest having to be there for his family and the Church puts a strain on his responsibility. But if the Priest is burning with lust it is better for him to marry.

[@chriscoke2505]

He’s not supposed to become a priest if he burns with lust then he’s not very holy

[@petermacander2061]

Anyone who needs so much sex, should not become a priest. If you have a crippling fear of heights, you don't apply for a job as an antenna line man.

[@Sharon-yk7xm]

MAN before a priest always a MAN before a priest

[@beyouandlove]

God still loves us all 😊

[@Lotus1881]

ok... did you take your medicine? 😂

[@mmlas8683]

Religious leaders need to get over what people get up to in the bedroom. This repression is unhealthy and does no good.

[@sbreathnach357]

He IS different: he pays no taxes: he is more privileged than Royalty; its time for he rest of us to find tax-free and mortgage-free looovvveee!

[@gospelafric]

God for you well done❤

[@ingoditrust7784]

Sexuality is not limited to the procreative act. Of course a priest has a sexuality before and after his vow of celibacy. I have known many priests, none of them had, to my knowledge, a problem in this department. Sexuality is orientable, if one keeps talking and thinking of sex, surely it's extremely difficult to live a double life. Renouncing human sexual acts is not for everyone, it's a matter of maturity and priests either have it or not.

[@joepugh678]

Agreed that celibacy, wise or not, can be managed well or poorly, but I hardly think that "many priests" would choose to share with you their problems in that department, unless of course you are their therapist or confessor.

[@ingoditrust7784]

@@joepugh678 oh, but I think you can guess a lot about how well person does in that department... And, I repeat, if celibacy is a "problem" for someone, sooner or later it will destroy him or her. Also, there's celibacy and chastity: two different things that don't exclude each other

[@kenosabi]

I'm sure all the children in the congregation would think otherwise.

[@fayadkhairallah2760]

Is it a rhetorical question you're asking me? 😮

[@thomasduvauchelle8583]

Praise God you are married like the early church apostles were married

[@theduke6174]

Exactly

[@johncalligeros2108]

The life of Marc and those like him, is a logical contradiction which also compromises his wife and children. It entails that he leave the Roman Catholic confession and function in another which recognizes the value and meaning of his relationship with Ingrid, if he wishes to live authentically. There are plenty. Didier's case is less so; but is nevertheless another paradox given the demands made by Roman Catholicism of its priests. Homosexual men, whether practising or not, are innately, relatively more suited to any mode of life which seeks to transcend familial ties and obligations, a fact to which the church itself can never admit. It is more than merely statistically likely that one or more of Jesus' disciples was a homosexual, simply because logistically it would have left him freer to pursue discipleship. There is also much psychological rationale for homosexual clergy, practising or not, in terms of their relationship to a male saviour, which supports the same. I remember saying this to my (Anglican) parish priest, who was himself a homosexual; he was also a member of an Anglican religious order, and had taken the usual vows, including celibacy, and at various times, had had male partners. It sealed my fate as a lay preacher in the parish, and was effectively the beginning of the end of my allegiance to that communion. (I am no longer an Anglican, although I doubt that I ever was.) Is the figure referred to in the fourth gospel as 'the disciple whom Jesus loved' just such a person, a homosexual with a deep and abiding love of another man? The question is rather 'Isn't he?' The fact that he is arguably the author of that gospel, one of the 'jewels in the crown of scripture' compounds the issue for churches with entrenched and intransigent attitudes.

[@anthonyforrest1785]

Celibacy should be optional

[@0080-k9e]

you tell a man he cant get married.. then you give your child to them for indoctrination.. recipe for disaster. its very easy to blame the parents in this situation but understand they too went through indoctrination at a young age, its all they know and they honestly believed they were doing the right thing just like their parents before them. if you still think religion is your way to heaven, you still have alot to learn about the world we live in.. do yourself a favor, count the number of most practiced religions around the world, each one promises a map to heaven different from one religion to the other. you acquired this religion completely by chance because we dont choose the family we are born in. all religions have a hierarchy where the common folk like me are at the bottom, we get no benefits, instead we provide our hard earned money to the top who are presumably favored by god.. the amount of miracles we read about in religious books is tremendous, Have you ever wondered why these miracles never happen in modern times? .........Dont be afraid to ask logical questions, be open minded... freedom isnt given, its taken by force and willpower.

[@vickydestephano7415]

Its an unnecessary conflict.

[@petermacander2061]

A priest cannot serve two masters: self and Christ. Priesthood is the total, self-sacrificial giving of one's self to Jesus Christ. Anything less, is NOT priesthood.

[@fobbitguy]

In the novus ordus "priest" are merely social workers presiding over a common meal. So, if that's all there is than no sacrifice is called for,

[@rrickarr]

Are you serious!!!!!! Are you saying that all other Christian ministers (anglican, baptist, methodist, pentecostal...) are incapable of serving their parishioners because they are married!!!!!

[@michaelciccone2194]

All these informercials during this video! USA irrelevant informercials

[@i.k.8868]

I don't understand why the catholic 'church' is still legal in France, or anywhere for that matter. Sometimes it feels like we are still living in the middle ages.

[@moonchart]

Banning religion is even more dangerous

[@i.k.8868]

@@moonchart I'm not in favour of banning any religion. The Catholic church is not a religion... It is an institution. A criminal one.

[@fobbitguy]

That's not very tolerant of you. Do you think the same of jews and Muslims as well or are you christianphobic?

[@Kanal7Indonesia]

Europe is based on Catholic culture.