Catholic reads the Quran pt 3

[@jmurdock8303]

It isn't pro fighting its pro self defense

[@monaabdelbaset8726]

It's a book of justice, strength and integrity.. Passivity is something else, very different.

[@hakimhakim4216]

The book explain the reality in live. No hypocrisy. Its teaching is relevant till the end of time. It deals with all matters in life may it be community, war,faith,knowledge,welfare and everything else which relevant.

[@purawngailocano]

I’m Jewish and in Judaism, heaven is sometimes referred to as gan eiden (the garden of Eden) as well.

[@alpha4IV]

purawngailocano thank you, that is helpful for my understanding.

[@abdurahman90982]

There is an entire chapter on mary( may Allah be pleased with her) in the quran and prophet Jesus (PBUH) is mention in the quran lots of times, in terms of the narratives and stories there is lots after u finnish the the cow/heifer chapter, small example the huge chapter on prophet yusuf and the chapter on prophet ibrahim.

[@auto-fav8969]

There are 3 ways to fight in Islam - Jihad- With weapons. With the tongue in dialogue and interviews. With the heart, through prayer, and this is the weakest of faith, and even though it is the weakest of faith, it is still considered a powerful weapon, in which you acknowledge your weakness as a creature and ask the Creator to help you. Fighting with weapons occurs when you are exposed to invasion and occupation. Fighting does not always mean fighting. It can mean resisting yourself against sin, such as drinking alcohol or gambling... and even waking up at 4 in the morning to pray.

[@4peace520]

There are three type of people mentioned in Quran, here is his type. “2:7 God has sealed their hearts and their ears, and over their eyes there is a covering. They will have a terrible punishment.” 2:“8 There are some who say, ‘We believe in God and the Last Day,’ yet they are not believers. 2:9 They seek to deceive God and the believers, but they only deceive themselves, though they do not realize it. 10 In their hearts is a disease, which God has increased. They will have a painful punishment, because they have been lying.”

[@m.3bd]

It would be more appropriate to say "This attempt at translating The Quran says" rather than saying "The Quran says." The Quran is Arabic and there is a great deal of information lost in translation as is with any language translated into another. I understand where you're coming from and I enjoy your series on The Quran. But, to come to any fair conclusion based off a translated work would be severely lacking. The Arabic Quran is a Miracle, and anyone who comprehends the Arabic Language knows that.

[@KAlmeftah]

"Fight" also means defend yourself from those who want to fight you.

[@erwinrencong9865]

Love quran🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩

[@firstlady4635]

Its not ok to lie!

[@jmurdock8303]

3xs is permissible when to stop mischief To bring a family together qnd in the times if war to the enemy

[@aqrazi1]

Read "Tafseer Ibn Al Katheer" it may help you

[@alpha4IV]

Since I wasn't citing in my vids when I recorded this, here is the line that says it is okay to lie under certain circumstances, there is an other verse later in a different chapter that says a similar thing about lying to those who would persecute you; but here it is surround by lines about marriage and dealings with women, this is the line I am referring to in this vid. From two translations. The Cow ayat 224-225 Maulana Muhammad: "224 And make not Allah by your oaths a hindrance to your doing good and keeping your duty and making peace between men. Allah is Hearing, Knowing. 225 Allah will not call you to account for what is vain in your oaths, but he will call you to account for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is forgiving, forbearing." Seyyed Hossein Nasar: "224 And make not God a hindrance, through your oaths, to bring pious and reverent and to making peace between people. And God is hearing, knowing. 225 God will not take you to task for carelessness in your oaths. Rather, He will take you to task for what your hearts have earned, and God is forgiving, clement."

[@hagertarektarek8518]

sir reading the quran isn't easy you can't read it by your own i am a muslim and need a scholar to understand the quran there are a lot of events that happened .you won't understand it unless you have a scholar cause if you read it by your own you will misunderstand .if i read the bible i will misunderstand it too so i have to ask a priest so please ask people of knowledge cause i can't answer all you are saying cause my english is bad.

[@sadbeing7208]

Sorry for my bad English but I thought that I have to write this . I think your misunderstanding in this ayat is not in it's teaching but by your definition of "oath" and this is understandable because Ayman(which is translated in this verse to oaths ) in Arabic are used differently than in English . in Arabic Ayman (the Plural of yameen ) is a word that is used to give strong meaning to any sentence and it is not only used as in Enlish but it is used extensively in Arabic language in daily conversation for example I can say" I swear to Allah that you come and eat the dinner with me " to make my invitation to dinner more seriously and more strong . and since breaking yameen(singular of Ayman) in Islam is a serious thing and you have to do "Kaffara" so Allah in this Ayat tell us that this is only with the Aymaans that is used as an Oath not the Aymans that is used in daily normal conversation just to make the sentence more strong meaning (Like the example I mentioned) and these later Amans are forgiven by Allah (and the first ayat tell us to not use it extensively and don't put the Allah word in each yameen in our normal conversations) If you asked any Arabic person whether he\she is muslim or not they will confirm this meaning

[@alpha4IV]

Sad Being Thank you for the info, I had not heard that explanation before.

[@sadbeing7208]

You're welcome :) . Actually I have just been reminded by a friend of mine by an ayat that explain what I just said it is 5:89 "89. God does not hold you accountable for your unintended oaths, but He holds you accountable for your binding oaths. The atonement for it is by feeding ten needy people from the average of what you feed your families, or by clothing them, or by freeing a slave. Anyone who lacks the means shall fast for three days. That is the atonement for breaking your oaths when you have sworn them. So keep your oaths. Thus God makes clear His Revelations to you, that you may be grateful." I don't know about translations so I just posted the first translation I found , you can search it. *Note that this us not about perjury or swearing in front of judges because this is A major sin in Islam and is mentioned at the end of in ayat 22:30 "That [has been commanded], and whoever honors the sacred ordinances of Allah - it is best for him in the sight of his Lord. And permitted to you are the grazing livestock, except what is recited to you. So avoid the uncleanliness of idols and avoid false statement,"

[@catotheelder9524]

If you say "I swear to God I will never do xyz..." and xyz is actually something good e.g. giving to charity, making peace, nevertheless God enjoins you to do what is right.

[@bishbosh.02]

oh the Bible has no slavery

[@agungprawira3710]

Yes u can divorce.. But.. Mohammed said that (hadith): the most halal(permitted) thing that Allah (The God) dislike are Divorce. And something that Allah dislike are sure dislike by mohammad as well.. That is the poin. (Avoid divorce) .

[@agungprawira3710]

There are 5 law in islam. 1. Must do it./obligatory (Wajib) 2.good to do./recommended(Sunnah) 3.allowed to do. (Mubah) 4.avoid to do. (Makruh) 5.dont do it./forbidden (Haram)

[@KickerHandle]

While you are at it, you may also pick up Sahih International Translation of Quran, though you will miss a lot of linguistic intricacies if you are not familiar with Arabic and just read a translation. I like that you are honest in your approach, or at least I felt that way. I know that some of the stuff in Quran is heavy for people, like you addressed in part 2, however, it is the word of Allah and Allah does not shy of saying what Allah wants to say. I wish you best of luck.

[@monam5962]

It's called A 'yah'

[@birtol7583]

Brother. i memorizad quran, Which verse no, says it is okey to lei? that is lei until you provide reference,

[@alpha4IV]

The Cow ayat 224-225 Maulana Muhammad: "224 And make not Allah by your oaths a hindrance to your doing good and keeping your duty and making peace between men. Allah is Hearing, Knowing. 225 Allah will not call you to account for what is vain in your oaths, but he will call you to account for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is forgiving, forbearing." Seyyed Hossein Nasar: "224 And make not God a hindrance, through your oaths, to bring pious and reverent and to making peace between people. And God is hearing, knowing. 225 God will not take you to task for carelessness in your oaths. Rather, He will take you to task for what your hearts have earned, and God is forgiving, clement."

[@Od1n_00]

Well there are 3 situations in which you can lie To stop some mischief To bring family together To the enemy during war(like spy stuf) Hope you have a good day🙂

[@agungprawira3710]

That one problem for non-moslem to read and try understand the koran.. Yes there are some verse that you could straight get the meaning of. But iam sure u , to understand koran verse u also need a help with hadits book and history book of events that regardly mention in the koran..coz not all the information or story detailed there.. Some of us have to take dedication of study, take special class and a lot of research in detail if u want to fully understand the meaning of koran.. Btw they have a degree on that matter too. Is not easy as u think pal,, just like that and u get it right away.. Is more harder if ur not moslem background and dont have basic knowledge of islam.

[@revinger1]

This ayah talks about swearing , like when you say I swear I did this , in Islam we swear with the name of God, so you have a misconception, I think you should learn islam in a propper way so you don't misunderstand something but u can do that after finishing the Quran if you saved your questions somewhere

[@abdurahman90982]

I wonder if u read comments?

[@alpha4IV]

Abdurahman Omar yep

[@FunTimeGhz]

Where exactly does it say its ok to lie? I have read the Quran several times cover to cover but I didn't come across something like that.

[@alpha4IV]

wherever I just read it from. I’m literally reading right out of three different translations.

[@alpha4IV]

what was the surah & ayah I gave? that is where it said so. I don’t have it memorized, I read it, if it sounds interesting I talk about in a vid. That’s how this channel works. No objective. I read, I ask questions, that’s about it.

[@salahelhaddad4872]

Where does it say its okay to lie and break ann oath????!

[@abdikadirhassanabdi2143]

You read it with biased mentality and looking for some errors which easily will lead you.

[@alpha4IV]

abdikadir hassan What bias? Please elaborate. And, yes I do not accept anything nor do I believe anything just because someone says something to me nor just because I read it in a book. It doesn’t matter whom the person is or what the book is about. That being said, me pointing out differences between different books is not the same as pointing out errors. Nor is it putting my thumb on the scale, as I never say which I think is correct or wrong. I do, on the other hand point out all anachronisms and supposed contractions in the Bible, both on my bible study videos and in normal conversation off the internet with those who are interested in such things, which is not most people. I would do the same with the Quran but most Muslims seem to be sensitive with such talk, as you are proving here with your comment, so I tend to avoid pointing out such things concerning the Quran, as this channel is neither dedicated to apologetics nor polemics. Go find David Wood or James White for that, I’m not interested. I deal with philosophy, historical criticism, and literary criticism on this channel, as well as martial arts. So tell me where I am being unfair with my critique & I will refute you. Otherwise, you don’t have to watch if you don’t want to, I’m not an expert on the Quran & I don’t claim to be. I am just reading it for the first time & giving my honest opinion as I do so.

[@mianzarrar3796]

There is no real Bible that exists so can't be compared.

[@Astronomad]

i think you need help reading this book because you seem to misunderstand each word, I am an Arab Musilm, and I might help if you want, you can just contact me through my social media, The Quran does NOT allow lying, 2:224 is speaking about making an oath or to vow to do something in the name of God and then being unable to, then God is all-forgiving. - divorce is just, to stay with someone all your life while you hate their guts is unfair. -the concept of slavery in the Quran is NOT the same thing as in the western world, The slavery the Quran is talking about is basically those who agree serve you for food, clothes and a place to stay, which was common in that time of history, you can't hit or oppress or even shout at them. -"men having authority over women" ???? that's the most unfeminist thing i have ever heard lol, The quran is puting laws regarding men women relationships, which is a big subject because you are jumping through the text, a small example: if you provide for a woman she has to respect you and obey how you want to spend money otherwise she's run away with your hard earned money and call you a rapist. -2:217 what subjection? this aya is talking about THE SACRED MONTH, that when it's over, muslims must claim the holy site from the idol worshipers after they have refused to let them worship God in it. - 2:228 But the men have a degree over them [in responsibility]. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise. - you have tounderstand how the Quran was revealed because each word was revealed by God to the prophet according to the situation, you have to read it hand in hand with the prophet's life to understand what's going on, for the Quran is not a story, it is NOT a bible. -the Resurrection we believe to be literal, as the story of a good jewish man, who was passing by a destroyed village empty of it's homes, and he said "how would God bring this village to life after it died, that's impossible" then God made him die 100 years and resurrected him, and God asked him how long have you been dead?, he said 1 day or something like that, and God told him no you have died for 100 years, and I have made you as sign to your people, then the man went home and his family were all old but he was still young and they recognized him and were shocked and he told them what happened, and they cried and glorified God, and he was as sign to the people that GOD WILL bring us to life on the day of judgement. -again, the Quran is Not telling a story, it is musical poetic text that mentions a story briefly and it's final moral lessons, like the story of Saul, that kingship has nothing to do with being rich but with being knowledgeable of the scripture and being strong, and that God makes people kings NOT humans, also that no matter how small the army is, if you have faith in God you will be victorious, there are so many more lessons to be learned from this small mention of saul but you seem to be reading with haste and ill intention, so you aren't able to understand, May God Enlighten your heart.

[@MultiDivebomber]

Bible has stronger assertions on men superiority over women, to the point, it sounds harsh. Divorce is a real life reality.

[@alpha4IV]

Bali Sunset That’s very debatable. Because the Bible is very many books in very many different genres’ written over many different years, (I would say 1,000 but some might argue 500), with different human (inspired) authors, with different aims, opinions, writing skill, needs, & audiences; everything that has been said in the bible has been interrupted many different & even in opposite ways. Hence anti-slavey, abolition movements, women’s liberation movements, environmental movements, & human rights movements are based on Christian theology & philosophy. Yes the other side may try to use more archaic passages more literally to justify their actions but that is just low level rationalizing. You can take any quote out of context to make it mean anything you want. Same with the Quran, hence I check what I say against Hadith & Tasir, sometimes I am still wrong, like misunderstanding that Muslims think Jesus had a book with him, not that they believe he was “receiving revelations” as he went. But I do listen, well read & take serious the comments on my channel. But for the most part my understanding of the Quran has matched the Hadith & the study commentary. I just don’t always agree with its claims, I tend to trust science & history & I let my faith guide me on the ethicacy & appropriateness of my responds to the factual data.

[@kamranabbasi6757]

It's not okay to lie or break an oath Islam is very strict against lying or breaking oath, give me the reference I have read Qur'an many times , I did not find it anywhere...

[@alpha4IV]

watch the video, I read it.

[@kamranabbasi6757]

@@alpha4IV give the the verse where it says so, or accept that you lied or missunderstood

[@majdfares6637]

I hoped that you had a knowledgeable Muslim to explain for you better when you read because the translation of Quran to other languages is very dependent on the understanding of the translator. Wich might not be right considering it is not his field of expertise.

[@hamodhossain4261]

well .. divorce are now allowed to every one because the Quran idea was correct and more of reality than denying divorce based on emotions .. by the way lie is only allowed in the Quran when the person is in death danger only and not for jokes setuations .. but if u think that its not making any sense then its also in the bible that u can lie when there's a benefit in it while preaching .. just saying .. u can search it if u don't believe

[@jeffa4822]

ofcourse its not from human

[@TaimurZ]

you should read hadiths in it prophet muhammad talks about verses and explain it

[@mkmk882]

Lie is sin in islam

[@mbout3456]

What??? Where is it ok to break an oath? I know the chapter by heart please provide your prove don’t just say something like that and go on like nothing happened!

[@alpha4IV]

m bout Here is the line that says it is okay to lie under certain circumstances, there is an other verse later in a different chapter that says a similar thing about lying to those who would persecute you; but here it is surround by lines about marriage and dealings with women, this is the line I am referring to in this vid. From two translations. The Cow ayat 224-225 Maulana Muhammad: "224 And make not Allah by your oaths a hindrance to your doing good and keeping your duty and making peace between men. Allah is Hearing, Knowing. 225 Allah will not call you to account for what is vain in your oaths, but he will call you to account for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is forgiving, forbearing." Seyyed Hossein Nasar: "224 And make not God a hindrance, through your oaths, to bring pious and reverent and to making peace between people. And God is hearing, knowing. 225 God will not take you to task for carelessness in your oaths. Rather, He will take you to task for what your hearts have earned, and God is forgiving, clement."

[@mbout3456]

alpha4IV oh come on, your Quran has commentary why don’t you read it, it would take you two minutes! Like this is rediculous man, it is saying that if you take an oath with God and break it unintentionally, that he will not hold you accountable for it because he knows you intention and knows that you didn’t mean to break it! 😂 Come on man

[@jey5653]

Trinity is idoletry consept.. Did u find trinity in bible.. Answer NO

[@RMAhmed89]

The quran came before the Catholic Church forced the trinity in the 16th century and portugal was wiped out for opposing it So u became idolaters when u accepted the trinity

[@alpha4IV]

Ahmed Chaibi That is 100% factually untrue. The Quran was not complied until AD 644-56. The Old testament dates back to 1,000 BC, and was complied in 285-246 BC, while the Christian New Testament dates back to AD 70, & it was 1st complied by Athanasius in AD 328, but Origen had a similar list as far back as AD 250. But the books were not Canonized until 382 at the Council of Rome, then again in 393 by the Council of Hippo, & 397 by the Council of Carthage, then in 405 it was affirmed by Pope Innocent, then in AD 787 at Nicaea it was affirmed again.

[@majda202]

you sound like hesitant talking about reading the quran dont be if your ok with then any one else dont matter its you saving you no one will save you only you

[@rizwanrafeek3811]

Quran is God's words, whereas NT is men's words. In Islam salvation comes through by submitting to God's will, whereas in Christianity salvation comes through in the killing blameless prophet of God. Islam stand before the God and Islam is valid before the God, I cannot think of anything in the core believes of Christianity is valid before the God and stand before the God. Quran does not talk about modern day Christianity, so please don't take it for a liberty that you are practicing Injeel that Quran mentioned of. What Christians are doing is idolatry, only Unitarian Christianity is something close to Quranic definition of Injeel yet not exact. Everything in the Quran is literal because it is God's word.

[@abdelmrabet100]

Please do not talk about something you do know

[@RuleofThehyperbolic]

in islam men are not better than women neither are they alike they both have different roles and privileges

[@temarpono6088]

Lie ia allowed in christian....you guys call of white lies(to please others), that is what i learned at school days

[@alpha4IV]

White lies are still sins. You learned incorrectly. It might be polite to allow a white lie, but the bible doesn’t command you to be polite, it teaches you to tell the truth.

[@anwarislamu]

For a person who claims to be so well read you can’t figure out the word ayat not aura . It’s clearly written in both translation and explain what ayat or ayah means. You act so confused when everything is well explained. Why don’t you learn Arabic and find out if translators are trying to trick you..your own book says God is a jealous God and punishes people..grow up and stop acting so innocent

[@alpha4IV]

villageidiot I don’t claim to be well read. At best I am an idiot at worse I am a fool. I don’t know anything about Islam. This is a fresh read for me, & that is the point of this series. Originally, I thought my audience was going to be mostly Christians & Catholics, coming to the book for the first time with me & maybe get them to read along & form a bookclub community. I didn’t expect so many Muslims to be interested in what some Hispanic Catholic had to say. I changed my approach to include verse recitations in later videos when I noticed who my audience is. But I am not interested in learning Arabic currently. I am learning Spanish right now, after that I want to learn Japanese, & get proficient in Russian. I only speak one language fluently, English, so that is what I am reading in. And the “confusion thing” is not an act, although I do not feel confused. These readings are about intellectual curiosity for me, nothing more. If you want to hear me talking about something I actually know about watch one of my other series, I have them set up on playlist. Thank you, for watching.

[@anwarislamu]

You have to understand that Quran was not a Book just handed to Prophet Mohammad. It came down in bits and pieces. Most verses were given when a particular occasion arose. When the prophet found himself in difficulty regarding a new situation a verse would come down to guide him. That is the reason you have to read the Quran in context as to why the verse came to and to whom it was referring to . Otherwise you can take it out of context seriously and be like those of ISIS. Completely change the meaning. This book does not start with once upon a time and ends with and they lived happily ever after. It has its unique style. Arabic is very rich language and sometimes it is next to impossible to translate certain words or imagery. Since you are bilingual you should know better about translation issues.

[@IncognitoCrypto]

This guy is dishonest. Not worthy to listen to

[@alpha4IV]

who is dishonest? and in what way?