Is Advanced Honing Worth it & What Are My Plans?

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[@tronmanlos]

I think my plan is still to advance hone to 1630 so I can try to prog thaemine hard and unlock my full transcendence. I won’t do the full 20 levels tho. I just want to play hard thaemine

[@hellcowboyqq]

This

[@rguinucci]

Don't do it, I did and regret, even with advanced honing, no one will accept you into hard mode cuz u dont have trans. I've spent many hours trying make prog lobbies

[@tronmanlos]

@@rguinucci no lie, I think we will probably see more prog lobbies again in about 5-6 weeks when everyone can advance home from 1620 to 1630

[@dieKreTzn]

This game is just straight up crazy for a returning player. I returned about a month ago and got one char to 1600 with the help of the events, the other 5 hanging around at ~1500. According to the calculator i would need 449,438g to push that one char closest to T4 starting content to 1620. And I dont calculate in the mats or anything else, which btw i can only generate from that one char. The message that I get from this is: dont play the game and wait till T4 drops so you can get your alts to 1580 so they can generate the mats you need for your main. Ok, see you in another half year. Great Game design btw.

[@ffhighwind]

Most games have a soft reset, and T4 kind of is that way. However, to even get to the soft reset point in this game requires months of work which they then add more content and puts you more behind. Only the express passes really help alleviate the problem, and you'll still be gatekept if you're a new player without cards/roster level.

[@raveturkey1996]

It's an easy no when one has 0 gold to begin with, because ALL YOUR GOLD IS BURNT THROUGH THE STUPID ASS ELIXIR SLOT MACHINE!

[@Gworzor]

The next raid (Aegir hard mode) will likely be 1680 (+14 on gear with 20 advanced honing) because ancient accessories start at 1680.

[@fgmxd4957]

We definitely need to see the rates for advanced honing in T4 first. If they are comparable to the conversion rate that we are going to get for leapstones, etc. then I'd say advanced honing is not a bad idea, at least the first 10 ilvls. Otherwise just wait for T4 and hone normally at a high base rate.

[@wwong]

i have 5 alts at 1620 and my main at 1633. im not gonna advance hone at all on my alts (maybe 1) cuz when t4 drops, the newest raid behemoth is only gonna be 1640 anyways, so theres no need to hone until next content drops

[@ir9192]

According to the calculator, advanced honing, especially 0-10 is actually very cheap compared to normal honing. In fact, advanced honing 0-10 is less than 1610-1620. The reality is the higher you go the easier both lobby sim and raid is going to be.

[@kyle784]

How does it compare to 1580-1590?(10 ilvls with 10% base chance like 1640-1650 will be). 70k raw gold and about 18k gold in orehas(88k total) vs 329k raw gold and 281k gold of orehas for advanced honing(this chart didn't use solars so I expect we can drop a third off this cost), adjusted to 407k gold total. Even if you got all the mats for free, advanced honing will never be cheap since it has so much gold cost baked in.

[@ffhighwind]

​@@kyle784 Based on my experience it's around 100k gold and 600 fusion per item not including leaps etc. Around 1.75 ilvl gained from a +10.

[@emmusing]

I’ll probably advance hone +10 weapon across the board since it’s mainly bounds and just paying oreha + gold cost. I mean every bit of damage is helpful!

[@ffhighwind]

You need to do Behemoth (1640 ilvl) for advanced honing the weapon. We can only do armor now. I pushed a couple characters up to +10 on one armor piece and gained like 1.75 ilvl. It costs around 100k gold and 600 fusions to do this per char. It's pretty nuts and not feasible to hit 1630 before T4. I'm not sure it's worth doing even with bound mats.

[@pyric]

Akkan hm required full brel +22 gear to do on launch, Brel nm required +22 valtan/vykas gear to full clear week 1. Akkan into thaemine progression is sadly just normal.

[@zeta6175]

this is true for first week clears, but its not 100% required to do that as you can just get armor mats from normal mode.

[@pascualbad]

Fun game😂😂

[@MyKarlFranz]

Time to - My friend leaving and give me all his gold.

[@Aratal-]

hmm reddit said advance honing is basicly free...idk

[@MrBFoRally]

Source trust me bro 😂

[@rammanjames]

I mean. It's as cheap as 19 honing. So I relative to our point at endgame yes. It's cheap.

[@kyle784]

Advanced honing is incredibly expensive and most of that is baked into raw gold and orehas meaning it can never be cheap until it gets nerfed. 407k-610k in pure gold and orehas for 1-10 on all pieces.

[@rammanjames]

@@kyle784 this cost is baked into months of playing, so its still not expensive lol.

[@kyle784]

@@rammanjames If you played the game by earning gold, you'd know that anything that needs months of farming gold is expensive. When you swipe for everything so the gold doesn't factor in.

[@chriso6042]

Shards alone is going to make it worth it to do at t3 than waste your t4 shards. Unless you're waiting till way way later to advanced hone.

[@dreadedronin24]

I think we are fully brainwashed if we are saying things like 10% success rate is really really high.. Smilegate did a great job of price anchoring the community

[@billyang4698]

Problem is if it was like 50%, one raid would give me +5 ilvl and we'd be done with the game within a month.

[@dreadedronin24]

@@billyang4698why do you feel that way when the game has like 20 rng power progression systems that your min maxing at the same time? Does getting the item level to do content really need to be as painful as they make it with all the other grindy power systems they add into the game?

[@rc8929]

@@dreadedronin24well with Echidna out, we have a taste of how strong Korea players are because I have seen so many beserk timers in my last two weeks on this raid. Unreal.

[@dreadedronin24]

@@rc8929 yea that’s the problem with rushing NA through the content without actually nerfing any of the power systems we had to rush through

[@Xyiler]

When the waves wuther I woe