Bill C-21 that would ban some hunting rifles, shotguns gets pushback

[@SMac86]

This is an election issue for me. We have some of the most responsible gun laws in the world. Legal owners, such as myself, have gone through proper safety training and have to maintain our licenses in good standing. Focus your laws on the gangsters smuggling illegal guns from down south that are doing the real damage.

[@guyincognito7442]

1% of all shipping containers entering Canada get checked. That’s it. What will be their excuse when gun violence continues after this bogus ban?

[@frankzappa9148]

The government shouldn’t be telling you what you can own. You’re not free

[@SMac86]

@@frankzappa9148 Yeah I don’t see the need to own anything fully automatic for hunting or civilian defence…but some of these banned guns are going too far

[@SMac86]

@googlehomemini I agree. No need for high capacity mags or full auto for civilian purposes, no problem. The training I went through to get my res and non res pal was excellent. If they wanted to make us take a refresher every 10 years that would be fine as well.

[@frankzappa9148]

@@SMac86 so then don’t own anything like that. Your government and its PM, who said he admires chinas basic dictatorship, shouldn’t be telling you what you can’t own. They don’t know what’s best for you and they sure as hell don’t know what’s best for the world. Governments have a monopoly on violence. They went from handguns to hunting rifles in a Matter of months. And they’ll keep going. Until you yourself are living under a full dictatorship. That is where your country is heading. And people will think otherwise because they think it’ll keep them safe. But you are not free. Your rights are being taken away from you one by one. Until all you can do is rely on the government. And if you don’t agree with the government, you’ll become a prisoner of that government. It’s happened so many times in history. And it’s happening to you now.

[@votekyle3000]

As an American, I don’t have any right to tell Canadians how they should run their country, but keep in mind they never give back what they take.

[@VE3LIX]

Well said in a polite way, are you sure you're not at least part Canadian.

[@elijahlees8655]

Well we could use ten more states in the union.

[@sgtredrhino2009]

And u guys leave too much lol **Afghanistan joke**

[@orionfell]

all these firearms and more going to be made legal again within the next two years. the liberals are tanking in the polls. if you mean the weapons you willingly give up then yeah obviously but there’s no registry so that’s pretty much up to the owner.

[@chrisfangeat6651]

The amount of BS that comes out of Mendocino's mouth is astounding

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

He's a clown.

[@jasongladney5681]

The old saying"When you can't dazzle them with brilliance you baffle them with bullshit"

[@andreveers2483]

@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur clowns go far in this government.

[@andysharp4154]

It leaks down from his brain cavity.

[@The762x39mm]

Mentalcino*

[@fonz99ca]

I joined the CCFR last week. I encourage all Canadian firearm owners to do the same. This Government overreach is insane. Licensed firearm owners are not the problem in Canada. Urban gang related gun crime with illegal weapons account for the vast majority of gun related deaths. I'd ask the Liberals to show us the data on how many gun related deaths were committed by licensed, registered firearm owners, versus "gang bangers".

[@terryverhaeghe4469]

It's not about saving lives.........................It's about disarming the population of the country!

[@Oblithian]

I may agree with the CCFR on this issue, but I don't think they are a well run organization.

[@danvondrasek]

It's the same here in The US. I lived in Chicago for most of my life. Huge city that's been historically Democrat controlled. Yet the crime has always been high. From the days of Al Capone and the mafia wars, right on through until now. It's not us legal gun owners out there doing drive bys, and shooting up a city block-its the street gangs, the cartels, and the mafia. And because that city accounts for most of the states population, they enact gun laws that only hurt the rural farmers, the suburban hunters, retired collectors, and honest, law abiding gun owners.

[@chadc7500]

It's like the Libs/NDP are giving a free pass to gangs and drug dealers - we have the most lenient penal system in the world, catch & release But the Libs/NDP spending millions and millions on the law abiding citizens Seems like Libs/NDP are FRIENDS with the criminals, put more resources and pressure on law abiding citizens.

[@kalbs89]

They are NOT consulting with Canadians! I'm a rural farmer, every .22 and shotgun I own (3) is on that list. None are for "Assaulting"

[@vovin8132]

Now you're on another list, congratulations genuis

[@jordansilver4629]

@@vovin8132 LMFAO.

[@thrash208]

My grandfather handed down his shotguns to my father who handed them down to me they are on the list

[@badbattleaxe5832]

Just don’t turn them in. They can’t proactively Enforce this ridiculous law.

[@NORTH_CAROLINA_REAPER]

Don't comply.

[@alvindueck2104]

Notice how he says they're going after the TYPES of guns used, not the criminals themselves

[@gherieg.1091]

Excellent point.

[@bowbender1]

And the criminals NEVER get the 10 year sentence for having a gun without a license but they want to do that with law abiding gun owners

[@J-Bibble]

This entire bill needs to be scrapped and these people need to get back to work tackling real issues. I can't believe they are willing to alienate 2.5 million people to appease uneducated voters in a few urban ridings. This divisive behaviour is sickening and will cost them the next election . Also, where are the billions coming from to pay for all of this!!?? What a colossal waste all around.

[@papersoldier06]

I agree %100

[@brothersgarage3748]

Well they ain't gonna pay you for the guns lol and they will just tax you more to get the money to enforce the law its that easy 😊 I swear to God chimpanzees could make up a better bill lmao 🤣

[@barbariansasquatch921]

If the guns are prohibited , which they will be, they dont pay a wooden nickle .

[@bobmc1721]

Incredibly well said!!!

[@ickster23]

Not only are the urban demographic ignorant about firearms and associated laws, but they are the ones creating the social conditions where gangs, drugs, and violence thrive.

[@davea5113]

The guns that Treadue states "the guns that shoots the most amount of people in the least amount time" these guns are already banned and/ or restricted in Canada!

[@stefanliko9310]

We think that BB's are next.Red Rider is on first place

[@bradarnold5291]

My vote is going to the first party to get rid of C-21

[@VOYTEyttv]

Count me in :)

[@MD-4mee]

This bill is going to hurt the Liberals big time.

[@nickrichard2916]

Unfortunately I don't think it will

[@rangerrick8220]

We can only hope.

[@hissingoose]

Nah. It won’t. Have you seen their voter base?

[@ajcorbett73]

Unfortunately no it won’t the amount of Canadians that hate the liberals, Trudeau just keeps letting in more immigrants that will vote for him.

[@HondoTrailside]

Hard to say. They only got 19% of the registered vote last time, and I assume those people were all for this.

[@LaneHadway127]

These politicians just can't stop lying.

[@jeffspicolli593]

Voters should remember that Ford was quite comfortable sitting on his hands while hunting rifles were confiscated in Ontario.

[@bowbender1]

​@jeffspicolli593 no guns that I know of have been confiscated in Ontario. But ya , Smith needs to send Ford a backbone

[@CanadianCommando]

"We won't ban commonly used hunting rifles" - moves to ban the most common rifle SKS

[@kwharrison6668]

Bringing up the SKS is a massive red herring. The SKS is a semi-auto military rifle and I know nobody who uses the SKS for hunting... and I know an awful lot of hunters (I am a hunter). The Chinese were still using it in their military up to 20 years ago. The bigger issue is the bill would basically ban any semi automatic rifle that can take a removable magazine, which is almost other semi-auto rifles. A LOT of hunters use those.

[@speedyburns1969]

@@kwharrison6668 squirrel hunting

[@kwharrison6668]

@@speedyburns1969 Squirrel hunting with a 30 caliber rifle? Jesus... *puts hand on your shoulder* let me introduce you to the .22LR my good sir.

[@speedyburns1969]

@@kwharrison6668 some of the squirrels around here get pretty big.

[@live4lifeeeeee975]

@@kwharrison6668 I use the sks for hunting… it’s a .30cal semi auto rifle… perfect for deer.

[@mr.moistly1633]

Justin: we aren't banning hunting rifles! Pierre: *quotes Justin's own bill to him proving that's a lie* Justin: we aren't banning hunting rifles! Mind boggling anyone can still vote for that man

[@papersoldier06]

Well he has to be propped up by multiple benefactors including the CBC.

[@psychoblack1411]

A shotgun is not a hunting rifle and pepe le pew kept bringing up a shotgun and calling it a rifle.

[@imnotweird88]

@@psychoblack1411 he's banning hunting shotguns too. Why don't you read the list of banned firearms before you comment 🙄

[@Xstr3ngthz]

Nobody is voting for him he’s just using loopholes to keep himself in. He’s not the one making the true decisions it’s the elite people who are underground that actually control

[@jamesfulwood5691]

Any auto rifle or shotgun may be considered an assault weapon. My shotgun has 6 shot capability. My 243 has 6 shot capability.

[@michaelpasta1]

The SKS was originally designed as a battlefield rifle but was quickly proven inadequate for combat use and was instantly replaced once the ak47 was created. Instead of destroying millions of rifles they were sold as a cheap hunting rifle. Also, it is sold with a magazine that is pinned to five rounds just like every other hunting rifle in Canada.

[@papersoldier06]

he keeps saying they're listening to these people and those people but there not listening to the Canadian people.

[@bobmc1721]

This government needs to be voted out ASAP

[@mistermcman]

Government Corruption does not Vacate Willingly. Corruption must be Forcibly Removed.

[@elijahlees8655]

@@mistermcman the United States could always use ten more states

[@wayneque2101]

It should never have been voted in in , in the first place!👨🏿‍🎤🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊

[@fredhinck9685]

That smirk is the sign of a liar.

[@theschof96]

A smug liar and a gaslighter.

[@CanadianCaymanRS]

Dupers delight

[@markfair7648]

A flintlock rifle was a gun used in the battlefield. Punish the criminal element and not the gun.

[@mr.moistly1633]

Not the liberal way. With the recent string of mass stabbings I'm waiting for common sense knife control to come in next

[@markfair7648]

@@mr.moistly1633 I agree. Or hammer 🔨 control. The bow hunter will be next. Some of those crossbow look pretty scary.

[@chrisfangeat6651]

Ban the Brown Bess!!

[@markfair7648]

@@chrisfangeat6651 LoL a Bess or any flintlock other than a pistol doesn't require a PAL license to own in Canada. I think everyone should have a flintlock in their bug out bag when the shtf.

[@chrisfangeat6651]

@markfair7648 An original doesn't. Any recently made replica that isn't an antique does require a pal

[@Nacalal]

"It can't be disputed that the SKS was designed for a battlefield" My man, MUZZLE LOADING BLACK POWDER RIFLES were designed for a battlefield, hell, SMOOTHED ROCKS were designed for use in a battlefield at one point.

[@daleparker4207]

Marco is such a liar. Police asked for the emergency act.

[@CanadianCommando]

I don't know why anyone bothers to ask a JT Liberal a question - they either dodge the question, or outright lie. Period.

[@johnnysupreme5718]

Does anyone in your government answer a question? I wish it was just the liberals in the US but most of our government just outright ignores any type of oversight.

[@TheRabid0ne]

I appreciate you speaking up for hunters and against this bill that is targeted at hunters and sport shooters, who, I'd like to remind you, get an ongoing criminal record check EVERY SINGLE DAY as a condition of their PAL. Furthermore, Semi-auto hunting rifles have a legitimate place in use in our country. These amendments are proposing to ban basically all semi-auto hunting rifles. While claiming they have no legitimate use. I would not be alive if not for one. A while back I had a grizzly encounter some 150-200km from a paved road while hiking and scouting for the fall season. I had stopped on a sandbar along a river. A beaver slapped its tail in the river, and a Grizzly heard that and came looking for its dinner, and found me. It was some 40' away upstream on the bank, and I was on a sand bar with a little stream between us and the river at my back. I yelled and made noise to try to dissuade it from approaching me and scare it off, letting it know it was a person there and not the beaver it was looking for. It came closer to me, to the point where it was some 20' from me, across the little stream up on the river bank some 6' up the bank. If it was going to bluff charge me, I'd be stuck on a small sandbar with it. It was snarling and huffing at me from the river bank and its high ground. It was so close that had I shot it- it would likely still have gotten me before it died. Had I a bolt action, I would not have a hope in hell of being able to get a second shot off. Having a semi-auto, and it not being dissuaded from my yelling... I discharged a shot into the bank and that scared it off. If I hadn't had a semi, I could not have risked discharging a warning shot, would have had to dispatch the Grizzly, and would have likely died with him due to the close proximity. So yes- Semi-auto rifles save lives. They have a legitimate purpose in hunting and defense against wildlife. And allow for humane follow-up if needed. And I'm here because I decided to carry one instead of another firearm. And during hunting season, it’s not uncommon for a bear, grizzly or otherwise, to move towards the sound of a gunshot as they are conditioned that it means there are likely the remains of processed game in the area. So having something quicker while dressing an animal is highly recommended. But hunting aside. And to the original focus of C-21 that you were alluding: Just how will taking property away from people who get DAILY criminal record checks reduce the gang violence and smuggled American handguns in our cities?

[@Bearason]

Bill C-21 will not increase safety in our country whatsoever you have a great understanding

[@demolitiondan1188]

Exactly!

[@scottbuckley6578]

It's a shame there so many rifles pasted down for generations that are priceless that you have to give up or become a criminal it's insane

[@flaxenelbow6987]

The state of Canada is sad

[@mikezabs]

@TheRabid0ne would you mind naming the semi auto you used?

[@steverabideau3779]

The worst recent mass killing in Toronto was done with a van. Guess we'll be walking soon in the name of public safety

[@demolitiondan1188]

Of course it’s getting pushback; it’s government overreach, and targeting law abiding, LICENSED firearms owners. These laws will do jack 💩to tackle crime, and everyone knows it. Do criminals obey firearms laws? Yes or no? 🤔🤔🤔

[@mr.moistly1633]

On this side of the aisle, we believe in uh safety for uh Canadians. We're introducing legislation to uh get assault style weapons off the uh streets and keep Canadians safe. Don't ask me how it will work, it just will.

[@shug2795]

Geee...I thought ALL Canadians had to abide by these laws....even criminals. Tell me it's true?!? 🤣

[@jorgegodoy3183]

Definitely not...

[@rickv1]

It’s not the firearm that commits the crime, it’s the person behind the firearm that commits the crime.

[@kevinmanning4880]

Reports coming in about stress on farmers and rates of depression and suicide. They will use that against the gun owning farmers.

[@deboraheisnor8134]

💯

[@garrettjames5673]

Congratulations CBC you did some actual journalism and I'm proud of you. Mendocino is clearly acting off of emotion.

[@papersoldier06]

dont forgive dont forget!

[@gunztommiegunz]

Exactly it’s time to pick up your firearms and keep your rights screw Trudeau

[@cwx8]

This is part of the liberal strategy to still ban semi autos but leave bolt actions. They'll play it off as being reasonable.

[@garrettjames5673]

@@cwx8 I sometimes think that as well was the plan but they bit off more than they thought they could chew

[@grudgetank3127]

don't trust the abc for a minute, they'll just get paid off again and again foolish corrupt media

[@alexlongfield2113]

Statistic - Licensed gun owners in Canada are 1/2 as likely to commit a violent crime as the average non-licensed Canadian. Leave law-abiding citizens alone and focus on criminals.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

More like 1000 times less likely .

[@grgoss1]

@@stewatparkpark2933 It actually might be more than 1000 x from the unbiased stats I've seen. If people's private property is deemed prohibited overnight, and even possessing them means they will be put in jail and have a criminal record, and they can't otherwise sell them or receive any compensation for this confiscation - don't you think that a portion of them will sell them to the highest black market bidder? Aka criminal element. This is one of like 100 reasons this is poorly thought through and terribly executed. It is government overreach, doesn't address issues that will actually reduce violent crime, and will actually put firearms into the hands of violent criminals, at a discount, I might add. I think the average person might read the headlines and think this shows the government is 'doing something', but I challenge them to learn more about this whole thing then make their mind up.

[@nuxkamina]

Isn't everyone a law abiding citizen until they commit a crime?

[@nuxkamina]

@@stewatparkpark2933 Cool, so make everyone a liscenced gun owner and suddenly there would almost no crime?

[@grgoss1]

@@nuxkamina I think the point is that the many layers of filters applied to being granted a license to own/use guns (legally) mean that people who are willing to go through that process and have a daily criminal record check, have a significantly lower likelihood of committing crimes, especially violent crimes. (based on the evidence). Conversely those who choose crime and violent crime, in particular, are already willing to act against rules, laws, etc. and typically don't bother with licenses and daily scrutiny. That doesn't mean that everyone follows this pattern, but the evidence is overwhelming. It also doesn't mean that if a criminal acquired a gun license they wouldn't commit a crime. We are talking correlations not causation. The propensity to commit crime and violent crime and interventions to reduce the likelihood are well studied, but rarely supported effectively.

[@thamomentum]

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. It's like they believe that criminals give an actual fk about laws!

[@shug2795]

That's not nice! Why are you "victimizing" criminals? 😆

[@daleparker4207]

Marco, ban knives and white rental Van's.

[@davevenier2950]

give him time he will

[@marilynhaley7033]

Marco all you have to do is tighten up the boarders it's not rocket science, oh did I say science

[@BananaJSSI]

No kidding

[@4doorsmorewhores298]

Take my van, ur kids still mine

[@gcanada3005]

I hate those white vans. You can’t see past them when you are behind them on the road. “Ban the Van”

[@joetuktyyuktuk8635]

The hunting rifles and shotguns on this list, are already limited to 5 rounds. A shotgun with a 5 round tubular magazine is not a "weapon of war" and does not belong on a list of banned weapons, which strangely also includes the Javelin anti-tank missile... even though there is no legitimate way to legally own a Javelin missile.

[@Joe3pops]

Why is a Mauser Sporter on this ban list along with Ruger #1 single shot rifle? Both of these are commonly used for deer hunting by licensed owners. Licenced owners whom often have a single deer tag to fill to get thier winter meat. Just 2 examples of over reach.

[@johnj5985]

The Ruger #1 fell under the ban's wording "over 10K joules of muzzle energy." It was understood that a modification was available to allow it to fire the .460 WM cartridge.

[@Trythis837]

@@johnj5985 there are a lot of rifles that can be modified to fire a .460

[@johnj5985]

@@Trythis837 For sure. That part of the law dealt with muzzle energy, and subsequently that caliber. The firearm in question had an interchangeable barrel available in this caliber.

[@Joe3pops]

@@johnj5985 Murray Smith's frequent use of the highly abused term "variant." Only a fool would take this committee's mere words that some future minor dictator will not abuse this term to build thier tiny empire. Politicians lie every day.

[@johnj5985]

@@Joe3pops Agree. Firearms manufacture is already controlled by design and model number. To "vary" it in a way that renders it illegal is impossible, except for muzzle energy limitations.

[@lifefordummies]

I am proud of cbc for covering this AND turning the comments on!

[@freddexta3363]

Why would that be commendable?? Isn't covering today's news stories in an unbiased fashion what they get paid to do. Paid by us by the way, you know, the people who demand to be able to comment, not merely be "allowed", because we pay the freight don't forget.

[@lifefordummies]

@Fred Dexta .... um Yes? Thats why i am happy and surprised they turned the comments on for this one. I call them out on turning off comments all the time. Like the video about the chinese police stations has no comments.

[@ammaheinon]

They are making a blacklist....

[@freddexta3363]

@@lifefordummies Oh ok, yes i agree with you. I'm just saying that leaving the comment section open should be standard policy so that we are not surprised when it is. They are waay too worried about having certain people take offense to some comments, in my opinion

[@leahdiston827]

Law enforcement has testified, and broadly do not agree this will help the issues around gun violence.

[@emperoralvis6559]

Broadly? From what I’ve seen it’s damn near unanimous. This bill has no benefit to public safety, and in my opinion, endangers lives. Because in Canada we have these things called bears, and they are sometimes known to be aggressive, and you may need one of these proposed rifles to save your life.

[@emperoralvis6559]

@bLackstar they can take the ammo first

[@soldierbyname]

Funny the ar-15 variants have never been used in a crime in canada ever.

[@matthewfoxcroft1327]

And yet the prick keeps saying do

[@masterpython]

I am sure the police and military have killed people with them

[@VE3LIX]

Oh they have, but on between 2 and 3verified occasions. . More victims were harmed by RMCP inaction in NOVA SCOTIA, and we also had people almost get shot at a firehouse by the RCMP.

[@emperoralvis6559]

3 verified occasions. However in all 3, the gun was not legally owned and used by a licensed gun owner.

[@XxnosmanXx]

I like how Marco respects hunters but not sport/Olympic shooters. I guess we can just “F” off. You won’t be taking my rights and freedoms away I promise you that.

[@Trythis837]

Try being a handgun hunter. Oh want to travel across the border? Better fill out this global affairs permit that nobody knows anything about.

[@marilynhaley7033]

Stand your ground

[@warrensteel9954]

He doesn't though. There are hundreds of thousands of SKS rifles in Canada, many used safety to put food on people's tables, and he can point to ONE instance in what 70 years as a reason to ban all of them?

[@jordansilver4629]

He doesn’t respect anyone that’s a citizen who chooses to legally own firearms.

[@HondoTrailside]

The problem with sport shooting is that all kinds of sports are illegal or regulated in Canada, so if all you can say it that your gun gives you pleasure, so what. Lots of stuff like that is banned. When I was a kid they banned hula hoops, skateboards, etc... Today there are all kinds of bans on electric bikes and vehicles. The Fudds are carrying the day on this one. The government knows that there is support for hunters, as odd as that seems, considering the small numbers.

[@frankfisher99]

I love that the SKS has found itself at the centre of this. Good solid working man's rifle.

[@bmw328igearhead]

That's why trudeau hates it. He's trying to outlaw hunting and sport shooting in Canada so we have to buy food at the grocery stores. Also, an armed and proficient population is MUCH harder to control.

[@briansoh9881]

As far as I am aware, most of the gun violence involves trafficked guns aka not legally owned guns. So how does changing which guns can be legally owned, help reduce gun violence?

[@stewatparkpark2933]

It's about votes not guns .

[@psychoblack1411]

it stops any confusion, instead of having to work out if the man with the gun is allowed to own said weapon the police can spot a criminal on sight because anyone owning a gun will be a criminal making there no chance of a mistaken i.d and that way if they have to shoot them there will be a solid way to say that they shot a criminal and not "a good guy with a gun". Also, the police won't go searching your hunting cabin where you need the gun so no need to worry if its only for hunting right .....nobody's hunting in the suburbs are they.

[@rolieg81]

It dosen't... recieved my Rpal after the handgun freeze and may never have the chance to buy a S&W 586 :(

[@guyincognito7442]

@@psychoblack1411 Your ignorance is astounding

[@brothersgarage3748]

@@psychoblack1411 it's already illegal to carry any firearm in public unless you're in the bush lmao 🤣 any gun owner knows that

[@marilynhaley7033]

Listened to every word Marco said not a word about clamping down at boarders

[@malei8132]

Congratulations, all Canadians! You are getting closer to life in China!

[@paulsimcox3055]

So let me get this straight... We have a list of hunting and sports rifles on a proposed banned list... The only people who have these guns are licensed, vetted gun owners. Therefore, does that mean that all licensed, vetted gun owners are gang members shooting up the town like the cartoon character Yosemite Sam? They talk about taking guns off the street, yet they ban guns that are locked away in a safe or vault. Just because a certain gun was used in a gun crime doesn't mean banning it solves the issue of it happening again. As if any criminal is going to hand in a banned gun if the government bans it 😆 🤣 If the government wants to make an impact on gun violence, then spend the billions needed to buy back hunting rifles, shotguns etc from licensed individuals and put it towards container scanners at border crossing to stem illegal guns from crossing into Canada. Currently 1 container in 100 is checked. And just to finish. I'm not a gun owner nor licensed to have one. Not interested in guns one way or another. It's just obvious to see that this is a political move to gain votes from Canadians who are either misinformed or lack the knowledge as a whole.

[@guyincognito7442]

100% correct. Thank you for taking the time to read beyond the headlines. Most non-gun owners won’t, or only absorb the talking points. I think this is just step 1 in a 2-step plan to ban ALL guns in Canada. Step 2 will happen after this ban completely fails to reduce gun crime

[@Karma-fp7ho]

I’m amazed the CBC has actually asked some questions. Thank you

[@nugetta]

The only thing that matters is to disarm the people and thereby prevent an armed uprising, which will therefore not occur. Any other reasons are fairy tales for gullible people. Heinrich Himmler: “Ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as having guns doesn’t serve the State.” They are still the same people. Only today it's not Himmler, but Castro, sorry Trudeau.

[@mr.moistly1633]

The statistic that should be front and center when discussing these matters is "how many of the guns used in crimes are legally owned and registered". When you have that number you'll see the actual potential effect of a gun ban on crime. Spoiler alert: its near 0.

[@HondoTrailside]

@@mr.moistly1633 That is a word game because the moment someone has the intention of using a legally owned gun in a crime, they have comited a crime. I agree with you though. I did a deep dive once and learned that a few years ago we had the easiest gun laws in the world outside the US, and failed states. Yet we were in the bracket of least murders per 100K population. There is a better bracket but it mainly has Japan, and a few other islands in it.

[@flabjoker]

Wow. Did CBC just ask real questions… bravo.

[@MaxAntihero11]

Mendocino doesn’t sound like he’s capable having reasonable debate on firearms in this interview

[@Karma-fp7ho]

It was pretty sneaky to add onto the Bill at the last minute.

[@easydogeasydog3225]

Thats why they get what they want, they just use weasel words when answering questions

[@jasonmercer9962]

Sounds like someone has really changed there tune now that they are seeing how many Canadian citizens don’t support this bill.

[@SaintSoldier84]

"If you don't trust the people you make them untrustworthy" - Tao Te Ching

[@justinistreason4095]

There is no place in Canada for treason.

[@neohubris]

By the way you can still own a gun in Canada even though you don't hunt. There are sportsmen and collectors who are exercising our liberties in a legal and responsible way. All these people should be taken into account when discussing this issue. We are not criminals!

[@SolSpectr]

Exactly this.

[@Daniel-pl3bd]

In Trudeau's mind, these people are easy target and expendable.

[@eliast2351]

15:58 Hunters and people who lost loved ones expect you to get the smuggled and illegal guns off the streets.

[@johnj5985]

After perusing the banned firearms list noticed the Browning Bar on it. The Browning is semi-automatic with a hinged floor plate allowing only a company-built 4-shot detachable magazine to fit the floor plate. If there's a gunsmith who can turn it into a 30 shot magazine and still close the hinged floor plate to allow it to fire, then he can make a weapon out of an empty beer can too. Or a banana even.

[@Trythis837]

Different BAR.

[@johnj5985]

@@Trythis837 Yes. The original BAR developed in WW l and designated "Browning BAR M1918" was a fully automatic weapon and a completely different firearm than today's hunting 'Bar.'

[@rob-1873]

The browning bar mk3 does have a detachable magazine

[@brothersgarage3748]

They can't tell the difference between the ww1 BAR and the modern hunting rifle lol because they don't bother to research or ask any expert

[@Leftylobo]

You're right out of it. There has never been a case of that. Stop lying to get likes.

[@jasonliu3202]

The government shouldn’t be telling you what you can own. Even if you have all the paperwork done, background check done and you can't still get something you want, you’re not free. Fight for the freedom!

[@albertanrifleman]

I witnessed Mendicino's legendary ability to lie continuously. I admire his lack of conscience.

[@ogswizzle4582]

He is next in line after justin

[@VonTurtle8282]

I can't handle listening to the government trying to justify themselves on this issue, it's all so dishonest and ideological.

[@nschwert]

Wow! CBC actually putting the heat on the Minister. Finally!!

[@sirensaskatoon2208]

Only a simmering heat.

[@441rider]

Play acting don't kid yourself, the want to send the banned guns to the war against Russia the rest will be sold or destroyed.

[@live4lifeeeeee975]

@@sirensaskatoon2208Still, very unexpected I must say. He was like a pit bull asking about the sks…finally some fuller spectrum reporting

[@jacquess9481]

Makes me wonder what their angle is. CBC doesn't do news. Something is fishy.

[@jeffwiggins8699]

It is unbelievable how they can all just lie through their teeth to all Canadians and have a clear conscience, quite disgusting

[@burkeforster5625]

" not to go after law abiding citizens " he says.....its actually the only people your going after....and none of my fire arms are weapons.....simply fire arms

[@mikeadam6776]

Correct not a weapon merely a firearm

[@HondoTrailside]

@@mikeadam6776 Let's be a little serious. 90 percent of what I see around me is a weapon, firearms are no exception. I just don't have a use for weapons.

[@sheldo8083]

A friend had his guns stolen during an afternoon breaking at his house. Multiple pistols and rifles were stolen. The RCMP were following a trail where the gun cabinet was dragged by thieves on a toboggan. The RCMP quit following the toboggan tracks when the clock hit 6:00 pm as there 12hour shift was over. They simply went home. They started on the trail again 12 hours later. Go figure. This is how much they cared about these stolen guns and ammunition. Absolutely disgraceful.

[@dford4014]

Hold on. An axe has been used in war and has been used with lethal force against people. Are they going after them next?

[@johngrisum]

Only the black ones.

[@guyincognito7442]

And “assault-style” trebuchets

[@maritimer3027]

Hope they don’t take my splitting axe! Next thing they’ll be calling it a Battle Axe ??😳😳🙄

[@maritimer3027]

With no place in Canada!

[@gigachad8462]

Knives are completely banned in the UK...yes they will ban everything

[@Scat_bxby]

To me isnt this a huge industry and job losses as a major issue also?

[@croaton67]

It's only 5.9 Billion to the GDP each year... no biggie.

[@VE3LIX]

Not only an insudustry, but this will decimate our Olympic and Paralympic shooting disciplines.

[@praetorxian]

“learn to code”.

[@drmiles7546]

its not about hunters farmers and sports shooters ...it's about personal property

[@Strange9952]

I think they are preparing for the inevitable collapse and want to reduce the amount of bloodshed as much as possible. Criminals wont be giving up their guns however, so they are effectively disarming the innocent people.

[@chakradocta8883]

You need a semi auto .308 for max safety if a bear or moose surprise charge at you. I hope people talk about defence in these scenarios.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

I am sorry but you are not allowed to use firearms for self defense in Canada .

[@MultiPolarWorldCo-op]

@@stewatparkpark2933 That needs to be rectified. But self defense isn't just against people it's for defense against wild life, vast wilderness in Canada.

[@rob-1873]

@@stewatparkpark2933 Technically yes you can. Against animals especially.

[@imnotweird88]

@@stewatparkpark2933 yes you can for predator defense

[@brothersgarage3748]

@@stewatparkpark2933 you can not specify use fire arms for self defence unless your life is in danger or you're in the bush and use it for wild animals

[@thekamotodragon]

Q: "uhh sir, you said your bill would not go after hunting rifles and shotguns, so why does it have hunting rifles and shotguns on the list?" A: "So that's a really great question and all that, but did you know that it's the anniversary of (insert tragic shooting here) tomorrow? Yea, we should all take a moment and feel bad about that happening, so that I can appeal to your emotions instead of answerin- errrr I mean so that we can understand why your guns are being taken away and why we're making this bill, it's a response to tragic, violent acts (not committed by you and that you had nothing to do with) that we have to put a stop to at any cost, see, you are being punished for the actions of others, you should understand that and be grateful!" truly fantastic stuff, makes a lot of sense government, very logical spokesman there.

[@mastersnipershifu9881]

I have only one question: How can I trust a government that keeps telling me the legal firearms I spend my hard earned money on legally now are illegal next year? I can't keep up with their change because they change their mind faster than I turn my book pages. On top of that, they can still be so cheeky telling me I can still buy those firearms that are currently not banned, with no compensation. It can't go on like this. I have family to feed during inflation and my money doesn't just fall from the sky. I lose my money by following the law!!! I don't need a government robbing my money 'legally'. This government is worse than criminals because when criminals rob my property, at least I have option to defend myself or use insurance. Is this what I pay tax for? Attacking myself? Give me a break! I need a government that can at least keep promises. I want my tax back please. A normal government shouldn't act like this.

[@MultiPolarWorldCo-op]

How could anyone trust this government after thier behavior these past few years.

[@HondoTrailside]

It is the plan. They put all these rifles on the list to destroy the xmas sales for gun stores. I was thinking of buying two rifles, one a single shot, the other a double rifle. I bet both will get hit. I just am not going to spend a cent on guns. There is no way to predict what they are doing, which is the intention.

[@dmercier6437]

Finally some balanced reporting from the CBC. Well done putting Mendocino on the hot seat. He hasn’t got a clue what Canadians want.

[@HondoTrailside]

He hasn't a clue what he is doing, at least not if it is in any way related to what they are claiming it is about.

[@Trythis837]

The sks doesn’t even meet their definition of an “assault rifle”.

[@imnotweird88]

You're thinking too rationally for a Liberal written gun ban.

[@briansoh9881]

Remember this is the government that banned a gun (H&K G11) and its name and variant that realistically only exists in movies and video games because it never went beyond prototype stage. I believe it was around 2015 when that ban happened and guess who was the prime minister.

[@peachyland1253]

They have self loading magazine you need to fact check . It is absolutely an assault style weapon.

[@Trythis837]

@@peachyland1253 the sks does not have a detachable magazine. Therefore it does not meet their definition of an assault rifle. You need to fact check.

[@Willie_Pete_Was_Here]

@@peachyland1253this has to be a bot

[@jeffjeffery1124]

The list of rifles being banned absolutely include hunting rifles, bolt guns, single shot bolt action rifles, shot guns, some semiautomatic rifles that people use for hunting. The list is published. The lier keeps repeating the bill would not include hunting rifles.

[@heinzmuggles8904]

Raquel very informed and professional

[@AndyGeesGarage]

They banned the Ruger No. 1 by name which is a single shot rifle. I’m not a gun owner but even I can see this has nothing to do with public safety. I hope that not a single gun owner complies particularly indigenous peoples with SKS rifles which happens to be the most popular rifle on reservations. Mendocino is a bold faced liar.

[@gd_vancity]

Thank you CBC for actually covering this. Better late than never.

[@Albert-zh6ps]

@Chris Millar heck yeah 1.3 billion dollars of our money (and promises of more to come) to a an outlet I mainly disagree with, without my consent is straight up wrong!…1.3 BILLION dollars!?!?…could be a lot better spent, like wtf!? 1.3 BILLION!

[@dotswarlock]

I didn't like the smirk at 10:08 either, it's a one-sided conversation for him, and to say that "these guns shouldn't be used in communities" is a poor choice of words. I am a fourth-generation hunter/target shooter and the weapons I own have been grandfathered to me. I understand that there are gun issues in some areas, but to remove all handguns and a large part of semiautomatic rifles is unacceptable to me. I own a semiautomatic hunting rifle we have had in our family for decades, it was never designed for war, it's a hunting rifle and I'm more then sure it's going to make there prohibited weapon's list.

[@froyocrew]

the smirk of a compulsive liar

[@tomk3732]

The ban lists by name (if not otherwise) almost all semi autos other than .22 (some are still listed). I.e. it bans almost every center fire semi auto rifle. The almost part is b/c they may have missed some stuff.

[@blaire8288]

Promo code "Poly" did not stand for ecole polytechnique. It was in reference to polysesouvient (Anti Gun Group). The CCFR has come out with the following statement: "Concerning the discount code controversy: Our promocode was in no way a reference to the tragedy at Ecole Polytechnique. It was a two-week-old response to a Twitter account criticizing us for fundraising. Any suggestion to the contrary is blatantly false." The media has spun this one and politicians are utilizing it to their advantage.

[@Bojipes]

I have the opposite opinion, respectfully. The only people who will listen to what they have to say and believe it are CCFR members and gun owners, that is it. Of which I was one(CCFR member), until this transpired. There is no way that you can possibly spin this as a positive in explaining our stance to the anti-gun community. It was an ill thought out move that does more damage than good. Unless your intention was to rile up your members and seek new membership to continue the grift. Interesting how the CCFR calls out the Liberals for their lack of transparency and how the MSM is in their back pocket. At the same time the CCFR never showed Raquel Dancho calling their(the CCFR) actions as reprehensible in their clip of her removal from the HOC. Nor do they allow negative comments on the chief grifter Rod Giltaca's video trying to explain his motives for this. Oh they allow the odd well written one in there, but that is it. I can't be the only firearm owner that sees this as what it is.

[@blaire8288]

@@Bojipes Howdy! There was no spinning. You can find the exact tweet which the point of contention. . In it, you can see the reply is to polysesouvient. The picture speaks for itself. I'd even send it to you if youtube would allow reply attachments but sadly it doesn't. It was first posted to polysesouvient after they posted their tweet that reads " #CCFR doing what #CCFR does best." (Date: Nov 20th). You are free to believe what you wish but when you look into this, the narrative that it was tied to ecole polytechnique falls apart quickly. The promo itself ran for 3 days and was weeks ago. it was not in the days before the anniversary of that terrible tragedy as the media seems to be portraying it. . Marco Mendacino announced this promo 1 day before the anniversary (although it was expired for weeks at that point) he knew that he would be able to use it to deflect off some of the heat he is getting placed on his colleagues and him from the Bill C21 disaster. Cheers,

[@theviking62]

So what if it offended gun grabbing a holes make no mistake they are the enemy. They equate everyone who owns firearms as Criminals and potential mass murderers

[@spaceman51974]

You don't end gun violence by taking guns away, just like you don't end speeding by abolishing cars.

[@BaconSlayer69]

Abolish tyrannical government

[@danderson9881]

Just Imagine if they spent that much time and effort, plus money going after actual criminals!

[@MultiPolarWorldCo-op]

The entire bill need to be scrapped and a bill similar to the US's first amendment put through.

[@oldpcgamesmvp9774]

Do you mean 2nd?

[@mohamedabdourahman9845]

I hope you’re aware of what it takes to get a constitutional amendment because its not easy. It requires both the house and senate, the provincial legislatures(all 10 of them) and finally a national referendum.

[@amereminion]

Hunting rifles are not weapons! In fact Canada has never sold rifles that are designated as weapons.

[@hunter12528]

Even restricted guns (handguns and "assault rifles") are TRACKED VIA SERIAL NUMBERS. If you want it one, you need a LICENSE. You CAN ONLY GO TO THE RANGE ONLY WITH THEIR PERMISSION. YOU HAVE TO GOT STEAIGHT THERE AND BACK. IN A LOCKED CASE (Unloaded and stored away from firearm to prevent easy acces). Tell me this isn't above and beyond reasonable.

[@BaconSlayer69]

It’s extremism to me it’s ridiculous

[@hunter12528]

@BaconSlayer69 I spoke to my MPs office today and asked for some stats, numbers, the logic behind spending possibly billions to buy guns that do the exact same thing plus or minus a second (and that you van use your hands) as the guns they're gonna leave in circulation, he was a nice guy but didnt have much to say on it. The guy said the same thing as Mendochino while also admitting isnt really knowledgeable on guns, is kinda scared of them and that people shouldn't own rocket launchers. Please contact your MPs and say you're not ok with this.

[@Rick-tt6yq]

Sounds like assault rifles designed for warfare are being eliminated. I suppose this would also include any bolt action, falling block, lever action, muzzleloaders, etc..rifles which have evolved from military applications. This bill is crap.

[@emperoralvis6559]

Very good point. Almost no firearm in existence didn’t evolve from military technology.

[@jaredlolfert9611]

Those shot guns were added on purpose knowing it would cause problems. So they will remove those added guns and make it only look like he is listening to canadians when they remove the few guns that were added for this purpose to make it look like he is listening but will still remove all semi autos.

[@johnlowe3217]

That or make an exception for indigenous folks so that NDP backs it!

[@emperoralvis6559]

They plan to ban ALL shotguns. It says it in the bill, all firearms capable of firing taser darts. Taser darts were designed to be shot from a 12 gauge shotgun.

[@myles3856]

CBC reporting actual news I’m shocked but happy

[@Trythis837]

It’s because they get funded by the government no matter what. CTV and global only get funded if the government “approves” them as news sources.. back door fascism at its finest.

[@dalebridgen330]

Thank you CBC, first time in years I have made it more than one minute listening to one of your interviews. Normally I would not click on it like when Trudeau is about to lie - open his mouth.

[@jeffmalette]

Benelli Super Black Eagle (very popular shotgun for hunting) Ruger no 1 (single shot hunting rifle) Weatherby mark v ( fancy bolt action hunting rifle) All on you're list

[@rreiter]

5:34. Dude. You're never "going to get clarity on this" from the Government. Nice try though.

[@watchandwhiskey]

This headline is misinformation. It’s not “some” hunting rifles, it’s “many” hunting rifles being banned.

[@leahdiston827]

My 300 win mag saw its most recent military use in Afghanistan.. it’s a Remington Bolt Action rifle used by hunters all over Canada. It that a weapon of war?

[@BaconSlayer69]

It’s a lazy reason

[@tomk3732]

Probably - if not banned yet wait 5 years.

[@Picolinni]

The Enfield P58 rifled musket was the service rifle of the British army. Does that mean it is a weapon of war? Say what you will about Australia, a local state MP called a rifle a weapon on a live TV interview. The state police superintendent cut him off (politely) and stated that no firearm is to be considered a weapon until it is used as such, in accordance with state law on weapons, which defines anything used to harm another as a weapon only if used as such.

[@CanadianCaymanRS]

I just bought a 300...and lost it in lake superior while boating to my camp. Oh well.

[@HaloFTW55]

@@Picolinni I know what I'm buying. The P1853 is a critical part of Canadian history too, so I also have a collector's reason for this.

[@prospector14]

The Ecole Polytechnique shooting occurred in 1989 and the shooter used a Ruger Mini 14 (.223 caliber). The AR -15 was not involved either, yet it took the government 33 years to prohibit these two firearms. Why so long if there was such a concern? I am a retired police officer, tactical officer, firearms instructor, PAL holder, and professor of police studies, and have been following the Committee hearings. Bill C-21 has been in process since May, but it is only within the last two-three weeks that the Liberal government added additional restrictions through amendments (in particular G4) that will essentially prohibit all centre-fire, magazine-fed, semi-automatic rifles or shotguns. These amendments were inserted at the Committee level and have not been presented, discussed, and debated in Parliament, so there is no due process of democratic principles. That fact that government would do this on firearms raises the question of what other issue they will attempt to "back door" into legislation going forward. This should be concerning to all citizens. After 40+ years in the public safety field, it still amazes me how people can be so ignorant of the facts of an issue, yet have such a strong opinion on that issue. Should there be strict regulations on firearms for public safety? Absolutely - but they must be based on evidence. Last week, the Toronto Police seized 62 firearms; 57 were traced back to the United States and smuggled in illegally, one was stolen in a break-in, and the remainders were untraceable. Why does the government not focus resources at the root cause of the problem, which is illegal guns used by criminals who have no regard for obtaining the legal licenses and completing safety courses? I would suggest because it is political posturing to go after the low-hanging fruit - the legitimate gun owners.

[@johnmclure981]

Order in council should not be legal.

[@georgedavidson1221]

These people are disgusting. Bring up a massacre and not talk about a ground hog gun

[@Alpheccca]

A reasonable line is between full auto and semi-auto. Ask the military if they think a semi-auto would be sufficient to use in any military assault-extremely doubtful.

[@dyspros3776]

Do not forget to mention the Airsoft Ban that is included in Bill-21, I hope the provinces ignore this Liberal government "Gun Grab" - something Alberta is already mentioned that I cannot enforce this bill. Just going after legal gun owners again, for political gain.

[@mtacoustic1]

Ban "some guns"? What a load of BS. It would essentially ban all guns owned by responsible Canadians.

[@stevewoitas7217]

.22lr with 10rnd mags are on the list. Bottles, cans, paper targets, and big city progressives feel safer.

[@johnmclure981]

This guy mendicino doesn't no the difference between a bb gun and a bazooka.

[@thunderektumforcefield3829]

Not a single crime prevented, not a single truth stated.

[@TheRabid0ne]

On the Poly “discount code” issue… Poly started it a couple weeks back by trying to stir the pot over the CCFR selling merchandise to fundraiser. It only blew up AFTER the anniversary got closer.

[@hissingoose]

I doubt not one journalist or MP if asked off-the-cuff to say the names of 3 victims from poly, they couldn’t.

[@paulmaxwell8851]

Evan Dyer is wrong at 2:00 when he asserts that there is no definition of an assault rifle. There certainly is. An assault rifle is compact (shorter overall length), has a detachable magazine, fires intermediate ammunition and has selective fire: the user can select between semi-automatic and fully automatic fire. If a rifle does not possess ALL of the above features it is NOT an assault rifle. Period. The AK-47 is an assault rifle; the AR-15, for example, is not. I think it's high time our politicians went to Wikipedia for a little education before they speak.

[@GeorgeVeld]

There is no Assault style rifles in Canada there has not been since 1978-9 Even your AR style gun is not a Assault Rifle . AR dose not stand for Assault Rifles However it is called by Arm a light Rifle. Yes there are things that are illegal in Canada that they make like 30 round magazines The Arm a Light rifle is nothing more than say a pickup truck where one can customize the Accessories scopes lighting straps ect.

[@Leftylobo]

13:20 "We've been up front right from the beginning" Then why did sneak in a 400 page ammendment at the last second and then lie that you got guns off the street as violent gun crimes have increased...

[@nuromar8984]

What about hunting criminals, car jackers, home invaders, catalyic converter thieves and car thieves.

[@nuromar8984]

@@mutemaids Are you a criminal activist or something.

[@nuromar8984]

I have something people stealing properties that's makes me mad.

[@ferociousfil5747]

How about the criminals in government that take our rights, spend our money recklessly and lie under oath?

[@dennischouinard4923]

Which ever hunting rifles are not ban today, will be tomorrow

[@big420head]

this marco mendicino should be in jail

[@BananaJSSI]

Down with the Dictator

[@mikemike9449]

I'm so thankful to be an American! Our second amendment protects the rest.

[@johnlowe3217]

If this goes through I’m going to move to the US. Even though it’s not an easy thing to do, it’s one of the last FREE country’s around. Canada is a dictatorship because of Trudope. I am worried about joe Biden though. His true motives are to ban all guns too so I don’t know.