Man Chains Electric Meter To Prevent Utility From Installing Smart Meter

It's obvious Norbert Sliwinski of Monroeville does not want Duquesne Light to install a so-called smart meter on his property; KDKA's Jon Delano reports. FULL STORY: cbsloc.al/2bHKcPF

[@anonq479]

The man is a mechanical engineer, im sure he knows what he's talking about..

[@trickywoo5165]

im sensitive to Wi-Fi i definitely don’t need their data harvesting machine on my house, they just tried to install one & were nice until they realized i wasn’t interested, their attitude switched immediately lol they really want them on every home.

[@Simple5.0]

The electric company make us responsible for these meters in their contracts. That includes any and all fees from damage fire theft etc. if that’s the case then we as homeowners should be allowed to decided what’s on our houses.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

OffPlanet If that's true wasn't it always that way before smart meters?

[@Baka_Oppai]

That's retarded. You buy electricity from a company, they sell you what they sell you. Or you could opt not to have electricity. I mean, it's pretty simple.

[@ahnilatedahnilated7703]

Try and opt out of having a power connection to your house! You will find the feds there telling you that you will connect to the electric or you will go to jail. It has happened all over the US.

[@psdaengr911]

It's no different than cable TV boxes. The box belongs to the utility provider. You dont want the box, you don't subscribe to the service. With smart meters, if you don't pay the bill, the power is cut to the meter. A disconnected smart meter radiates nothing.

[@oldschooldiy3240]

Fake news wrong! Most of what you are talking about is in areas controlled by home owner associations! And a few municipalities (with interest in power or water) that regulate what a home owner can and can't do! No federal law prohibits a home owner from switching to solar or wind power! In fact there are rebates available as tax deductions for doing this!! In my community, you can't have a well inside city limits, the city is the water company! There are many homes that actually produce more power than they use and send it to the grid! Federal law REQUIRES power companies to PAY for this energy!! DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

[@noahleventhal5024]

“Don’t fix what’s not broken”

[@fertxpdqicts9664]

noah leven ok, then how do you expect us to progress? Humans have come this far from constantly improving. The reason why power companies want this new meatier is because they can now read it a distance away and mange the system better. Without it they'll have to send people to manually read his meter, mark it down, then probably send him a fee for it.

[@noahleventhal5024]

Fertx Pdqicts yeah but if people’s houses are burning up in flames, then they should let people choose if they want it or not

[@fertxpdqicts9664]

noah leven I'm not going to touch the "people should choose or not" topic. What I will touch is this mans information. Looking into the house fires, I've seen a lot of people kick up dirt about it. Unfortunately I could find a case where someone proved it was related to one of the new meters. What I was more interested in though was a case study on how often it happen and why. It appears to be a big enough concern that small groups of people are worried but not so big everyone is talking about it or happening enough for people to notice. So to me it looks like he read it online and just took that information at face value. That wouldn't surprise me considering he doesn't know how radiation works.

[@xKyaroraine]

Fertx Pdqicts they install it to monitor what times you’re using the most electricity. At times where grid activity is high, they’ll charge you a ton, when grid activity is low, they’ll charge you less

[@nnje3371]

noah leven there has not been one case of a house burning down because of a fucking digital meter

[@matrim1762]

The meter is the companies property the box and everything else is the home owners property and he has ultimate say on what is installed on HIS equipment.

[@johnlovescathyforevers6116]

lucifer thebringeroflight nope ..power company can put whatever type of equipment they choose

[@aemt4u]

And the electric company has the choice now to provide him with power if he's not compliant. Or they could charge a $500 manual meter reading charge.

[@MattyC62185]

The power company has the right to shit his power off

[@alec4672]

Electricity isn't a right like clean water it's a privilege. I'd pull that meter and leave the box empty fuck em

[@billyboi57]

If they want electricity, they will agree to what the power company demands. Otherwise, let them generate their own electricity.

[@themanthelegend7048]

Yeah burning down the house is pretty energy efficient.

[@auntiem873]

TheMan TheLegend but if the house burns you can get the insurance to pay off your mortgage and then sue the smart meter people to give you enough money to rebuild and maintain the new house.

[@themanthelegend7048]

yeah except there will be a clause that says they arent responsible for some reason and insurance cant replace everything. Fuck the government.

[@auntiem873]

TheMan TheLegend - a lot of people just accept that but in reality, No. They cannot wave their responsibility in the cause of the accident. You will have to sue the insurance company but you will also have to sue the guys/company that installed it. Prove that they did nothing wrong and that the original manufacturer (them) is to blame. That is why you need the fire report as soon as it is written and try for a copy of the hand written notes. All this before the insurance claims people get a hold of it and rewrite it then get the fire chief to sign off on it. Then in court they can explain why the fire department. Signed off on the insurance companies report without having been there at the fire and after it was cleaned up (in some cities the fire department goes in after the fire and pulls out stuff puts it in a pile after the arson person says it’s okay. This the insurance people don’t see the real damage and that’s what they say in court. With the original report and notes and photos if you can get them courts usually make the insurance pay out. In this case the electric company. It’s a pain and most people are in shock at the time and that’s to the insurance benefit. My house burned down and my Dad died in the fire. My Mom, to keep herself busy, instead of worrying about his death and worked with rebuilding the house so she had a place for her kids and her. She got the paperwork within 48 hours and within 5 days the insurance refused to cover even half the cost of He house. Cited a lot of stuff, she pulled out the original report and they paid up. She then sued the people who caused our fire and after 5 years they saw we were not dropping and settled. It’s not easy but worth it. The people who caused the fire had to pay the lawyer and not us.

[@AndyFromm]

Even if a power meter started on fire some how...it's gonna start his brick house on fire?

[@auntiem873]

Andy Fromm - my house burned and the outside was made of brick. The inside is not though. When brick gets to hot, it explodes. Because it is what people see they say the brick caught, catches on fire. The real danger Is the bits that fly out during the explosion that can hurt firefighters, police and anyone watching nearby.

[@89.8kiwifm9]

Here in New Zealand, if you don't want a smart meter installed you just tell them to get off the property and they have to leave otherwise they're trespassing. Friend of mine still has his old meters, refuses to let them install smart meters for the very same reasons as the guy in this video states.

[@miked9958]

in the US,if you have utilities,the companies have the right to be on your property.

[@valeriericksmithlovett428]

​@@miked9958 No, actually they don't! With the old analog meters, American utility companies have to go through a legal process in order to shut the power off to your home in the event of nonpayment of a utility bill. With the "smart" meters however, they do not, because they don't need to enter your property in order to shut off energy service, because the new meters allow them to do so remotely. If you deny them entry, or have a fenced yard, they cannot enter the property BY LAW! Also, the box that houses the meter is the property of the homeowner and if you attach locks or chains to the meter box, they cannot breach, cut, remove, damage, or destroy the chains or locks in order to access and/or remove the current utility meter, BY LAW!! If entry to your property is made in spite of denial of permission by the homeowner, the technician is guilty of trespassing! If he or she breaches a locked gate or power box, and in the process breaks or damages ANY property, not only are they guilty of trespassing but they are also committing the crime of vandalism! These are crimes and they are punishable by law should the homeowner press charges!! NOBODY has the "RIGHT" to enter another person's PRIVATE PROPERTY without permission by the homeowner, with the exception of the homeowner and those who ARE permitted to enter their property!! This is America, not China!

[@noconsentgiven]

Nice👍❤️!! This is ridiculous and criminal what these legislatures are passing through, smh.

[@californiadream8836]

Sum BODY TouCHA mY MEteR

[@rwdplz1]

Don't want a utility meter? Go off-grid. Install a solar system big enough to handle the home's electrical needs, no meters.

[@randommade2105]

Erwin Schrödinger that's ducking stupid

[@spacemonkey9257]

Here in Florida doing that is highly illegal apparently

[@Treekicker]

Florida it's illegal to live off grid.

[@naturalselection7163]

rwdplz1 even if you convert to solar 100% you still need a Tesla battery pack that can be disconnected if you don't pay your solar bill. There is no such thing as 100% solar powered homes

[@omarcarrero3623]

Ferny Smith ive been doing 100% offgrid solar instalations since way before teslas batteries came into game , it is not impossible nor hard

[@sergeantseven4240]

LOL hes worried about things he knows nothing about. RF radiation is prevelant everywhere. Cell phones are more harmful then a smart meter which operates on a lower frequency then your home WiFi router. and yes its high voltage but what does that have to do with anything? theres a mix of high voltage stuff with low voltage stuff in any household. its common everyday stuff.

[@sergeantseven4240]

Peter Pate you obviously know nothing about the subject yourself. I am an electronics engineer with experience in RF and data transmission. I live in Phoenix AZ, weve had smart meters here for at least the last 15 years. Weve not had any issues with them here. The rf signal leakage from these is no worse then the wifi router in your home or the cell phone in your pocket. Give me a fucking break...

[@falconhorizon8691]

Sergeant Seven you two clearly know nothing on this subject, I am just your regular Joe and I haven't graduated in anything yet. The Rf gives you free radio.

[@IntelCoreI77700K]

Sergeant Seven Sounds hot

[@IntelCoreI77700K]

+Cobra 142 Oh hush!

[@CPreacher40]

smart meters made our bills go up. they could change the wattage used from a computer at their HQ and make you pay more.

[@borisb1831]

High frequency radio waves you say? Old curmudgeon probably refuses wifi all the same, its right in the middle of the microwave range. Sounds like a lot of bunk, I get it engineer and everything, not a doctor though but I agree that he should be able to keep his old meter if he so chose. Only of course if the electric company has to go out of their way to read the meter manually then a fee should be associated with it

[@mscm1995]

Boris Bagryanskiy depending on the size of the waves, but usually hig freq radio is no good to your cells. Google lights spectrum, after uv its pretty much dangerous to humans. Also wifi is really low feq not really dangerous

[@borisb1831]

Whoa dude! I hope this codger is not getting the gamma bomb, lest he will turn into the Hulk and Duquesne Light Co. will have a real problem. On a serious note, I think it is a little embarrassing when you are telling others to read, but you yourself have a weak grasp on basic concepts. A good example being, "size of waves", not really sure what you meant by that, but since we are talking about frequency I will assume you meant as such. Also, high frequency radio waves are a category of EM waves explicitly defined by IEEE to be on the 3MHz to 30MHz range, and not a generic term you simply throw around. What is more astounding is your prevailing belief that somehow, without any strong evidence or background in medicine, you believe that HF radio waves at a permissible exposure limit allowed by the FCC, cause some kind of ailment. WiFi is really "low freq", make one really ponder why the hell IEEE has 2.4GHz and 5.8Ghz WiFi classified as Ultra High Frequency and Super High Frequency respectively. Moreover, according to a report submitted to the Public Commission of the State of CA by Pacific Gas and Electric Company, smart meters are exclusive to to 900MHz and 2.4GHz frequencies. Assuming the data is correct from the PG&E Co. and that our 900MHz wave is propagating spherically, lets do some simple math: 2500mW/1sec = Power, Intensity = Power / SArea, SArea = 4pi(r^2). 2 feet away and the intensity will be 4 times less than if you were 1 foot away(199mW to 49mW). However, it is not propagating spherically and in a more directional way - reducing the exposure time for person crossing paths(not to mention that PG&E states their meters transmit at an avg of 45 secs in a 24 hour period). To completely destroy you, here is an excerpt from the American Cancer Society on smart meters: "the amount of RF radiation you could be exposed to from a smart meter is much less than what you could be exposed to from a cell phone". Consider you ignorance banished.

[@borisb1831]

You know what I find very ironic? Here is an excerpt from your pièce de résistance book of concealed kookery "...many have forsaken establishment medicine in favor of a holistic, prescient type that too often neglects technology's real advantages..." Ok, so what am I missing exactly? CrossCurrents, as in the the journal published Association for Religion and Intellectual Life? This ought to be good, also I got the Body Electric book show me where and what I got wrong. Another thing, you do realize the only opinion I gave was expressing how I felt the guys should have a choice? Everything else is a straight up fact. So far I have not found anything contradictory or anything that would add to the debate in anyway from the book (just so you know electric current and EM radiation are fundamentally different things)... If you really want a batshit crazy book, I got a read for you (unrelated to the topic) - The Pychosocial, Chemical, Biological, and Electomagnetic Manipulation of Humans written by Valdamar Valerian. If you dont want to spend 70$ or however much it is now, I can email you a copy. By the end of this conversation you will be wearing an aluminum or dunce cap yet, which ever one is more comfortable for you.

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

hoh his claim at the high voltage got me rolling... not even the RF idiocy.

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

its called notifications plus smart phone plus 2nd shift job equals numerous replies in the middle of the night...

[@fermitupoupon1754]

I've been refusing smartmeters at every turn. Why? Because the utility company refuses to guarantee that a smartmeter will only measure actual power used and not apparent power. Why is this important? Because a lot of electronics have a super shitty powerfactor these days. And a shitty powerfactor means that it draws a lot of apparent power, even if it only uses a trivial amount of actual power. As long as building code refuses to allow me a safe method of installing whole-house active powerfactor correction, I refuse a smartmeter.

[@chrisb3583]

Fermitu Poupon just curious where would you find the pf rating for household appliances? Along with a residential sized capacitor/inductor bank? Also I was under the impression that the difference in apparent and actual power was pretty negligible out side of commercial and industrial settings

[@fermitupoupon1754]

I just have a meter for it. It's like a kill-a-watt, but made by Voltcraft. It has an option to show PF for the current load. Generally the PF hasn't mattered for household use, because it was never measured. Over in Groesbeek they removed hundreds of smartmeters because people got bills that were triple or quadruple their previous bills, with no significant change in their use. Turned out those meters measured apparent power rather than actual power. Cheap electronics have abject PF, simply because noone ever cared when they designed them and building them without PFC was cheaper. Cheap chargers, LED lamps, computer power supplies. Some of that stuff has a PF under 0.5, the worst I've seen was an LED lamp with a PF of 0.17. Finding a residential sized capacitor/inductor bank isn't the problem. I have a 3-phase line coming into my house, so I can just get a 3x25A rated industrial unit. Those are pretty cheap. The problem is building code for me, and by proxy home insurance. And most of the big machines in my woodshop are ex-industrial units, which run 3.5-5kW 3phase induction motors. I'd rather not get a bill for apparent power use.

[@psdaengr911]

You "super shitty power factor" in a typical home with a refridgerator, washer, drier, dish washer is barely affected by the mostly capacitive electronics loads. Why? Because the total power consumed by electronics is trivial compared to those applicances with motors, which are inductors.

[@fermitupoupon1754]

Why would it matter what kind of load has a shitty pf? What matters is that an old ferarris meter can't measure aparent power. New smart meters can, and in some cases do measure aparent power. If the average appliance or device in your home has a pf of 0.66, your electricity bill would go up dramatically just because of the changed meter. Any residential building built before 2012 in my country has no code-compliant means of installing PFC. The 2015 update to the 2012 code, retro-actively made PFC possible. But my house was built under 1962 code. Getting it to comply with the 2012 code means replacing the entire electrical for my house. To the point where I have to replace the PVC in the walls with new PVC, because inch sizes are no longer allowed in post 1980 code. I'd have to replace the fuses with breakers, add in extra GFCI's and all kinds of really expensive crap that isn't going to do anything for me. I'd rather just keep the ferraris meter for as long as possible.

[@thomasjefferson5727]

Fermitu Poupon You sir, are mis-informed.

[@DR0CK]

Wow. A chain that can simply be cut in 5 seconds with bolt cutters. Some engineer he must have been...

[@lordgarion514]

ElectronicRedPanda You don't buy the meter...... And I'm fairly certain you pay for the internet. Do you own it? Idiot.

[@lordgarion514]

ElectronicRedPanda You're the one who said you get a discount..... And we don't take it because it's not ours and there will be one at the next house. And if there happens to not be one, they bring one out and install it for free. And not only is America not the fattest country, Mexico passed us awhile back, but Europe is quickly catching up. Since we have more money we got to start before you poor folks.

[@lordgarion514]

ElectronicRedPanda We don't have to buy them to get a discount for leaving them.... And the old meters also catch fire plenty. They always have and always will. You just don't hear about it because the idiotic anti EM radiation dipshits don't get upset about them. England might be the fattest, but every other European country is still catching up.

[@85irocz28]

When u break a chain on property it's a felony. If u r car is up for repossession and u chain it to a pole in ur yard it can't be taken u have to go through court. I have been in the repo of a lot of things for a living in the past few years of my life and not anymore and that's 1 of the first things u learn. So ya break that chain bc ur going to prison

[@alandoherty5804]

High voltages? What is this guy smoking. Of course it has high voltages, so does the rest of the house. The wiring inside the walls is probably more dangerous, especially if the house is old. And emitting radio waves? So do cell towers, electronics, WiFi, radio stations. You cannot escape radio waves and the smart meter calling home is the least of your concern.

[@benwyatt7619]

Exactly, the voltage going through the meter will be 230V and it's going to be the same throughout the entire house. Only the cable between the power station and your general local area will be a very high voltage. Somewhere near your house will be a big transformer that changes the voltage and current.

[@Syrnian]

And the Sun creates a lot or RF that reaches the ground as well. Cannot turn that off.

[@betebet306]

Smart meters flood the RF spectrum , 900mhz or even lower or higher. Smart meters are constantly connecting. No one wants a Wi-Fi AP next to their head

[@shelleygold4923]

BILLSHIT. LOOK AT .CA RIGHT NOW

[@guysimpson2080]

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[@madenaraputra6887]

All smart meters should be using of fiber optic for RF communication without radio antenna. The fiber optic was safely of microwave radiation.

[@SoundFantasy]

It's actually really scary we have no choice.

[@lordgarion514]

AUSTIN PEYTON You have a choice. Dying from lack of electricity would mean you don't have a choice, but since there are literally billions of people in this world who don't have it and aren't dying from not having it, you have a choice. You being too tender to live without the convenience it provides in no way means you don't have a choice.

[@russell5078084]

the answer is simple. take the steps to produce your own power and get off the grid. then you can tell them where to stick their smart meter.

[@colinvanful]

this is the best comment i have read on this subject ! i take my hat of to you sir . i did exactly that a year ago and now i feel free and empowered if you get my drift ? i make my own power now after spending 6K on a solar system i have rid my self of endless utility bills .

[@russell5078084]

colinvanful Excellent!

[@samuelseidel6148]

Cole macGraph 20 years you mean

[@mr9266]

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[@Divisiondoorway]

Omg i never knew it was this easy! Here lemme go build a house off the grid get a clean water source have energy for heat then hunt all day! 21 century living! Because of a silly smart meter that is going to ruin my life!

[@psdaengr911]

The utility company owns the meters. The highest voltage inside a smart meter is the line voltage. The radio signal is at wifi levels. This old engineer is afraid of new technology, and seems to have forgotten everything about basic EM physics that he learned in school. (I'm older and haven't stopped learning.)

[@FixItYerself]

So, what you're saying is that you're ok with sleeping on a wireless router, right next to a microwave that's running all the time, or even a high voltage meter with constant wifi going? I guess we all gotta die somehow, but this isn't the answer.

[@thesaintmustwalkalone708]

First of all, you need to study government and the rights of Americans and property owners. It is not really a matter of whether you agree with him or not. Secondly, tons of studies have proven WiFi unsafe at the levels we get. It is advised to keep your wifi off at night and when not in use. I think you need to keep learning.

[@spencerkimllido7327]

P Schmied I heard those tech can be rigged easily.

[@twentypruno7774]

Jordan Rodrigues the accepted engineering wisdom isnt always correct. history shows this to be fact, especially when you look into daytons miller work while avoiding the propaganda spread and smeared on it. i think you should educate yourself :)

[@shanematthews1985]

microwave ovens output up to 50x more RF than smart meters, do some research lol

[@-Good4Y0u]

More power to him I don't think that the RF is a huge deal... But I definitely agree that there is a fire risk.. More importantly I think the homeowner should have a say and that you shouldn't be forced to install something like this if you don't want it. Especially if there is an older unit that works and is widely accepted

[@jeffery19677]

How about a follow-up to this story? Its now Jan 1, 2019.. Did he give up? Was he arrested? Did he move? Did he go solar and "opt-out" of paying them anything?

[@TheCyndicate.]

So explain to me why a private company has the power of government law being made for it,.. and why it has a monopoly?

[@colinvanful]

simple because they are screwing you over they are just not telling you they are doing it sir!

[@FrancisR420]

I don't know ask the insurance companies

[@theutopianoutopioan464]

T H E C Y N D I C A T E, The electricity company of a city or town is bestowed a monopoly, I don't know why, but it's a prime example of the fact that we don't have a Capitalist economy, we've got a Corporatist one where the government bestows monopolies upon big box companies that lobby the government.

[@lordgarion514]

The Utopiano Utopioan Simple. No one, not even you, wants 4 power companies, 3 cable companies, 3 water companies, 2 land line phone companies, and several others all taking turns digging up the roads blocking traffic, or parking their vehicles in the road while working on lines, also blocking traffic.

[@theutopianoutopioan464]

Robert Pruitt, People should have the choice of which electric company they use, just as they choose the cell phone company they use.

[@ryanmundell3504]

Mechanical engineer knows vary little about radio waves he’s not a reliable source.

[@ericdell1819]

ryan mundell are you a good source?

[@AlterMannCam]

I’m a hobbyist (Extra Class Amateur Radio Operator) and can confirm the RF concern is bullshit. The frequency would need to be bordering the upper edge of the microwave section of the spectrum which no commercial device does because the FCC would not allow such a device to exist.

[@Cor-ds1du]

Not true. Some mechanical devices operate upon and due to frequencies of varying levels. In order to maintain such devices you must be trained and certified in both.

[@AlterMannCam]

Pickle Rick My point is that in order for what this guy claims is happening to happen the meter would need to be outputting huge amounts of RF and probably with a directional antenna to boost the gain. Based on the cost to continuously run something like that and it’s absurdity, one can come to the conclusion that no such device exists. It takes more than 5 minutes on Wikipedia to become an “expert”...

[@Cor-ds1du]

AlterMannCam Fair. The cost would bw be absurd. However, he could be reliable himself was my point. The original comment was such a blanket. Cheers, brother. Back to my Wiki pages, lol. To be honest, he's pounded by RF waves everywhere he goes. All celestial bodies pulse RF and other waves constantly. Conviction is good when it's a subject with variable we can control. Otherwise, it's an exercise in futility. lol (insanity pill) ✌

[@TheMW2informer]

I love how he talks about dangerous radio waves as he stands next to a Verizon box

[@abramruelas5176]

Can and did he get in trouble for that?

[@theghostgamer3318]

act 28 0f 2008 does not even cover electricity I just friging checked

[@Noah-kd6lq]

the ghost gamer he said act 129 of 2008

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

doesnt matter FCC already has regulations on them regardless of state. 1 watt output max, and its either old 900mhz cell phone radio waves or 2.4ghz wifi range... WOOPIE. ya get more from your cell phone constantly at your ear ALL DAY... and all the wifi and hotspots around you 24/7 who cares about a meter...

[@Honeypot-x9s]

Syc holic 1 watt at 900mhz ? That’s actually way to low for max output. Likely 2-5 watts. I believe 900Mhz isn’t even used on meters in the us cuz 900Mhz requires licensing and spectrum cost even though it’s fairly empty now a days in North America.. I believe smart meters and utilized run on MURS/2Meter bands (150mhz range) and 70cm bands (440mhz range). 900Mhz is still used on some stuff, however it’s being phased out.. and yes even 150-440mhz is all digital as well. And WiFi can be up to equivalent 25watts unlicensed and 65 watts equivalent licensed. But I doubt it uses WiFi band since WiFi is a very small portion of the 2.4Ghz/5.8Ghz spectrum. And a large chunk of the microwave bands are unlicensed usage in the US... including WiFi... Anyway this guy is a nutter... I worked around high output RF a lot in the past. And if your priorities are really fucked up if a little 25 watt (worst case) 2.4Ghz box scares you that bad... I do think high output of RF causes health concerns and maybe even cancers... but the amount of output that I would worry about is like if you live under a 10 KW Tv Antenna and your roof and house is in the reflection path of beam... then I think RF is a concern.

[@BoostedDeere]

meehhhe Of You -I have a wireless router about 10-12 foot from my room. It’s been there for 5 years approximately. I feel completely fine. I’m 36 and get checked out by my family doctor twice a year. I feel fine. She says I’m doing great. Wi fi routes throw stronger signals than smart meters and I got 3 in my house.

[@misteryman526]

Well, the fire concerns are real, although considering the number of meters installed vs. the number that have burned I'd say the issue is of minimal concern. I feel that the RF radiation is also of minimal concern (considering the proliferation of other, more powerful sources of such radiation in our everyday lives), but rather than fighting over this why not just install an RF shield over the meter? You can either buy one fairly cheap or just cobble-together one out of scrap that will block 90%+ of the RF put out by these things.

[@edyounika1967]

The real concern is the Dirty Electricity. This is dangerous and the smart meter turns a wire grid into a microwave emitter. The microwaves coming out of the outlets are dangerous to health.

[@MrTantalust]

Ed, I have read many studies and the consensus seems to be that certain types of EMF *may* _possibly_ be unhealthy and that more studies are needed. In the meantime there are many irrefutable examples of humongous EMF environments that never made anybody 'sick'. And why would 'microwaves' 'come out' of only an electrical outlet? Because it's called an 'outlet'? Wouldn't your Romex* inside your wall be radiating it too???? *[that's a type of house wiring, not a flashy, expensive timepiece.]

[@misteryman526]

Ed, I'm guessing you're either joking, or you're a 'tin-foil hat' kind of guy...

[@richcampoverde]

ed younika you are a fucking moron la Diablo

[@MrTantalust]

Hey, tape some hotdogs over your outlets and they'll cook real nice. Don't let them drip on your rug.

[@rubenscott3972]

Try and see if you could asks for a protective case

[@oscarmuffin4322]

The real reason they want to install smart meters is not because they can read it wirelessly. They want to install them because they can read the power factor. This means they can charge you probably up to 25% more.

[@oscarmuffin4322]

Then as a mechanical engineer you wouldn't realise that the majority of a houses' total power usage is from rotating equipment... fridge compressor, freezer compressor.... AC? Guess what, also a compressor, how about the heating oh would you look at that.... a pump or maybe a blower fan. How about the rest of it. I'm willing to bet a large proportion of it is consumed by electronic devices, and although many companies make an effort to minimise the effect of an inductive load by integrating capacitors you will still find plenty of poorly designed and cheaply manufactured device around. I've seen phone chargers with a pf of

[@oscarmuffin4322]

Power companies are changing meters to charge us more money. You need to realise, wake up. These people are scam artists and fraudsters. Don't listen to what you've been told. That is all propaganda spread by them, they want you to be ignorant to what they are doing.

[@TypicalWhite]

I would be pissed off too if my town forced me to install something worse onto my house. IF ITS NOT BROKE DON’T BREAK IT!

[@JoeyMcSmokey]

stop smart meters dot org

[@k.m.9418]

The homeowners should have the right to say no. If the smart meters catch on fire who's responsible for the damages??? ..... The homeowner. Therefore, the homeowner should have the final decision.

[@johnjesus971]

He does have the choice. Smart meter or no electricity. It's his choice

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

what fire? name'm show'm give proof cuz no-one here in the the US really should be giving a f what happened in Canada for non-UL listed meters burning up.... huh... what happened. got all quiet in here and shit... one minute it was like the Towering Inferno in here, next thing its like a babbling brook... but seriously I live in PA his concerns are total bullshit. thats the problem you plebs keep believing this crap without even looking into anything.

[@billyboi57]

I didn't believe it either, until I did some research. emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/smart-meter-fires-and-explosions/

[@weird1600]

That is not a choice what benefit does a so called smart meter really have?

[@billyboi57]

Or go off the grid.

[@electronicsolutions1126]

Most Smart Meters use the 900 MHz ISM band and transmit about 1/2 of a watt. The thing does not transmit all the time. Mainly to cut back on interference with other devices. Examples of other uses would be like baby video/audio monitors, wireless security cameras, some outdoor internet bridging equipment, natural gas pipeline monitoring, river water level monitoring, etc. There is a lot of devices that can use the ISM band. It is a low power radio band with decent propagation. It is normally in receive mode waiting on instructions. The power company can send out a signal telling the meters to "upload" their data once or twice a day or they can "push" out a software upgrade from time to time. The meter does very little transmitting. It just sends a few packets of data occasionally. It could be for a few seconds or a few minutes during a day. The power output (when transmitting) is about the same as a home wifi router or a cell phone while on a call. I have managed equipment in the ISM band and I know how it all works. I have worked together with the engineers that build the meters to reduce interference problems. This is just paranoia. If you don't want a smart meter then you might as well put your cell phones in the mailbox, turn off all your power and line your walls with tinfoil and wear a mylar blanket in the dark with just oil lamps! Right Saul?

[@1framistan]

That report forgot to mention that smart meters allow the electric company to charge higher fees for electricity during PEAK LOAD times of the day. So, when the hottest part of the day occurs, your electricity costs MUCH more. If you turn off your air conditioner, then you are saving money, but suffering with the heat. This makes the poorest citizens suffer the most.

[@vladislavdracula1763]

Electric companies can do that shit anyway. Smart meters don't do anything to help or hinder that.

[@ericdell1819]

This is so the new appliances that are developed to monitor you in your home. To track your daily routine. It will depopulate more people faster this way.

[@bryanleovy7273]

Nice to see a concerned citizen fighting the system. I have PG+E. and I pay monthly to opt out of the Smart Meter. These things are dangerous I believe.

[@GovenorJerryBrown]

The waves use the wires as antennas and emit waves perpendicular to your current throughout your house's wiring.

[@sadladcinn]

Really the new meter high frequency do you use a TV a laptop computer any smart devices hell led lights all have different power supplies most make frequency's higher than the alternating frequency of the power

[@rehabjoebuffet9892]

"He may not have a choice" is the polite way of saying if he doesn't the state will crush him!

[@badfinger6000]

Wackadoodle.

[@impreza9726]

Badfinger Maybe you should learn about EMFs

[@ndn2589]

Lol your bill goes up 30% radition does come off it and fires so happend and he is the dummy no we are for allowing it

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

Stevie, maybe you learn what a Faraday Cage is... oh remove any wifi in your house also.. and your cell phone and any other wireless device.. joo trollphailed

[@impreza9726]

Syc holic Who says I have or have not done these things, an obviously one would have to learn about EMFs before building/buying these items/ percautions. What exactly are you trying to get at? You leave me a comment that has nothing to do with what I said to the person that originally posted?

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

because it sounds like you defending this wackadoodle?

[@fhuber7507]

"smart meters"improperly installed have been burning houses... I don't blame him for not wanting the utility co to install something that is dangerous.

[@SlackerU]

He never said how far the meter should be from your bed, I'm probably getting fried right now.

[@colinvanful]

20 years ago smart meters never existed !

[@avenged06x]

colinvanful they were referencing the old meters

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

20 years ago you didnt have a cell phone the size of your wallet either... and what high voltage? did that smart meter magically make some Hv cuz the voltage is the same as it always has been.... And they are UL listed... if they not then you have a legit argument. www.arrl.org/smart-meters if you want some real info on them... esp when it comes to what its transmitting... Your wifi router puts out the same amount of RF power... DERP.

[@PhrontDoor]

200 years ago, no houses had electricity. 40 years ago, nobody had internet... 20 years ago there was no youtube.

[@psdaengr911]

20 years ago smarter homeowners with more common sense and less paranoia existed. Younger folks don't appreciate how scary something that you don't grow up with can be , expecially when you don't understand how it works. "Smart" anything is a turnoff for some older folks, and apparently for some younger ones. It doesn't bother me because I understand that practically nothing ever built by humans, especially computers, has been "smart" in any normal sense of the word. If it ever is, we can relax and let it take care of us irrational, destructive, hateful humans.

[@psdaengr911]

UL and FCC listed.

[@Truther567]

Good for him. These meters are not safe and he does have a choice. These meters are unconstitutional.

[@c0t0d0s7]

Humpty Dumpty Love No, he doesn’t have a choice. If the state PUC didn’t require the electric utility to offer a smart meter opt out program, that’s the final decision. And anti-smart meter trolls have tried the constitutional argument (fourth amendment) before and failed. The amendment prohibits the GOVERNMENT (federal, state, and local) from conducting unreasonable searches and seizures. Duquesne Light Company is an investor owned utility, NOT the government.

[@sedoniadragotta8323]

Am emf sensative and. Get terible head aches and chest pains and nose bleeds . So it does have an effect im now batling to disconect my gas and electricity units create my ow. Energy

[@johnsiders7819]

I have one our REMC is system wide putting them in I just hope mine is not one of the ones that catch fire !! several have !

[@frederiquezug5938]

SMART METERS CAN NOT BE USED TO INTERRUPT THE LOAD IF THE METER IS NOT BYPASSED, THEN THE CHANCE OF A SMART METER FIRE INCREASES BY A FACTOR OF 1000 TIMES IF THE CUSTOMERS METER BASE IS NOT INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE THEY STILL MEET UL CERTIFCATION, THEN RISK OF A FIRE INCREASES BY A FACTOR OF 10,000 TIMES AND THE UL CERTIFICATION OF THE CUSTOMER'S METER BASE IS DESTROYED BY THIS CRIMINAL ACT If you come home and find the power has been interrupted to your home and you have a new smart meter, call the police and charge your power company and the meter installer with ATTEMPTED ARSON. WATCH, AND TAKE NOTES ON THE ONLY LEGAL WAY TO DO A METER SWAP kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWHFomV-o5ephdE #1 If they install a smart meter and your power goes out, then they are ARSONIST. In Canada, it is against the law, all smart meter swaps have to be BYPASSED to keep the power on. #2 If the customers UL certified meter base is NOT INSPECTED by a CERTIFIED electrician before the meter swap, they they are probably breaking the law and will increase the chance of your home burning down by a factor of 10,000 times. Remember, the only electrical device in your home that is NOT UL APPROVED is their smart meter. Why do you ask a smart meter is not UL APPROVED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BUILT STRONG ENOUGH TO MEET UL'S SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. They are only certified to measure power consumed.

[@thaddeustechnique1802]

Come on! Don't you all understand that these people are try to keep what little say they have. If your smart meter regardless however low you think the chances are of the meter catching fire does catch fire it all on you the consumer. It is lose lose situation. They just upgrade the meter nothing else the homeowner owns everything else. Me personally I build a brick wall and the strongest door I can find around it so nobody can get into it without contacting me.

[@kevincooper814]

Not only does it put out an emp. But it also gives the government and power company the ability to see pretty much every power using device you have, including light bulbs. It tells when you operate that appliance or even every time you turn a light on. It monitors and records your intire daily life at home. I think these smart meters are just the precursor to government control and regulation of private power use. I'll go to jail before I let one get put on my house. And after I get out, I'll rip the damn thing back off and go back to jail. These things are massive violation of privacy in your own home.

[@frederiquezug5938]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJLTmWh4hNaXgq8 Need I say anymore.

[@vladislavdracula1763]

Smart meters only measure the amount of electricity going through your house. THAT'S IT!

[@frederiquezug5938]

*Let's look at why we do not need smart meters* #1 A smart meter will hurt or even KILL disabled homeowners who have disabled medical implants. The average of deaths by smart meter radiation and smart meter fires is almost 100 every month in North America. #2 Did you know if your power company “turned off” the power to your home when they did a smart meter install, your chance of a smart meter fire increased by a factor of 10,000. #3 Your power company has access to all of you private power information. Eg When you make tea, when you turn on your alarm etc. This private information is sold to Google for huge sums of money. Ask your power company what the second radio transmitter in your smart meter does. (ZigBee) #4 A smart meter will cause cancer to return if your family members who are fighting cancer at home. If they come home from the hospital and sleep near a smart meter, they will die. Check with the US Cancer Society website. #5 Smart Meter RADIATION will turn off breakers in your home. Both AFCI's and GFI's get turned off by the radiation from the smart meter. #6 You smart meter is very accurate, BUT, the software (firmware) is programmable. Your bill has nothing to do with the power you use. #7 Smart meter radiation is breaking Ionic Bonding. #8 A huge expenditure for a huge loss. Billions of dollars to purchase something that does not general generate any power and each smart meter need 4 watts to operate. One million smart meters use 4,000 KILOWATTS of energy to operate. #9 The second radio transmitter is for ZigBee. If you want your power company to MONITOR your home 24/7, then you are in luck. Don’t forget, this private information will be sold. Why do you think your power company spends BILLIONS of dollars and does not generate one watt of extra power to sell? Let's debate every point with REAL FACTS. *WHICH POWER COMPANY DO YOU WORK FOR ASSHOLE?*

[@vladislavdracula1763]

Citations are needed for points one and two. Point three is simply impossible. It's impossible for a wattmeter with a transmitter relaying the total amount of power being used to the power company to record exactly what devices are being used at any given time. With manual examination of the history, it is possible to make an educated guess about what devices are being used. For example, if the electricity being drawn by a given house jumps from 2,500 Watts to 2,560 Watts, it is possible for the power company to guess that a lightbulb has just been turned on. They don't have any 100% accurate way of doing this, and it can be done with regular meters as well. Number four needs a citation. Number 5 is impossible. If the breakers got turned off by the meter, the electricity wouldn't be able to make it to the outlet in the wall. It is possible for the electricity company to charge you for more than you used, but there is no evidence that they actually do it, nor is there any evidence that smart meters cause them to do it. Number 7 is BLATANTLY false. It's IMPOSSIBLE for a 300 MHz - 3 GHz signal to become ionizing. Electromagnetic radiation starts to become ionizing just short of 1 PHz, or 1,000,000,000 MHz. 4 Megawatts for A MILLION people is nothing. Let's say that the meters are running 24/7. In a month, they will use a little less than 3 GWh combined. Divide that by 1 million, and you'll find that every meter uses 3 KWh per month. The average household in the US uses a little less than 1 GWh per month, meaning that the meter uses 0.3% of an average household's electricity. If you want the power company to subtract 0.30 USD from your power bill, that's fair, but suggesting that smart meters use some insane amount of electricity is not. A company cannot sell data if they have no data to sell.

[@vladislavdracula1763]

First of all, I seriously doubt that. Secondly, even if you really have worked in "this industry," for 20 years, that doesn't make you right.

[@magiccarp3710]

Are they able to look into our homes?

[@frederiquezug5938]

PRIVACY U.S. Congress Smart Meter data: Privacy and Cyber Security fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42338.pdf Trust me, you will never think of the words "hourly consumption" and keep a straight face ever again. Our evaluation is based on more than 3,000 current consumption fingerprints, which we have captured for a range of household appliances. ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6424093/?reload=true&tp=&arnumber=6424093&url=http:%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6424093 www.zigbee.org/ Nest Uses Its Data To Turn Electric Utilities Into Cash Cows techcrunch.com/2014/04/18/nest-uses-its-data-to-turn-electric-utilities-into-cash-cows/

[@samuelestrada2297]

So who prevailed?

[@louisss645]

The man is hooked up to a wireless microphone... using a radio transmitter... some dumb engineer

[@gritstriker3548]

Guy Turner lol

[@AmyraCarter]

He's well within his right to say no to the 'smart' meter.

[@BrunoSalcedo]

Sure, unless he wants to buy electricity from eh utility company. Then he has to accept their terms. But I agree if he wants to produce his own electricity he has the right to do it however he pleases.

[@sovietbear3024]

Unless the radiation is ionizing then you cant get hurt from something so low power.

[@Beltfedshooters]

When they added one to my house my electric bill started going way up.

[@donaldshimkus539]

I hear that alot. I was able to lock my meter socket and told the power company I want to opt out. They gave me papers for my doctor to sign, but she never did and I still have the same meter.

[@100pyatt]

So great... You must be FORCED to have it .... Sounds familiar !!

[@alexeistrife56]

...Yes? The energy company owns that equipment. Lol.

[@jeffreyspradley8895]

Act. Not law. Un-Constitutional.

[@psdaengr911]

You should have paid better attention in high school civics class. When a legislative body passes legislation into law it is enACTed. The law is an ACT of that body. e.g. the Affordable Care Act, the Selective Service Act.

[@thesaintmustwalkalone708]

Unfortunately, most laws these days are not Constitutional either.

[@TomO-if7nh]

Sounds like PUC paid the legislature.

[@TRPGpilot]

Ooohhh !!! I have got myself a real live genuine idiot on the loose right here. let me see how long I can keep it purveying retarded "advice" for the comedy value . . .

[@52flyingbicycles]

The company owns the meter

[@franticstorm7411]

Now here in the UK despite the government wanting us all to have one , we have the option to say NO to our energy suppliers and many including myself are doing so and saying no thank you.

[@miked9958]

the power co.should your power off,for ever.

[@harmsc12]

The radio wave thing is irrational nonsense, but the fire hazard concern seems legitimate.

[@Syrnian]

The meter change should be the homeowner's decision.

[@a1919akelbo]

As a non-retired ELECTRICAL engineer I can tell you this has 0 affect of your health. Saying it does is like saying the angle of the sun affects the taste of your cheerios.

[@derekremington8807]

a1919akelbo also, with that guys argument, shouldn't have cellphones, or any electrical devices for that matter, he's not very bright is he. Also the best part of his argument is that he argues high voltage, high current, and the analog mechanical meter doesn't lol? Everyone complaining about rights etc, the power company has jurisdiction up to the meter, after the meter to the house distribution is the owners, so he can not stop them from swapping out meter?

[@Syrnian]

The Sun produces the same RF. Since the day he was born, he has been bathed in it during the day and night from sources natural and man made. Just an old guy that knows jack squat.

[@SoundFantasy]

a1919akelbo hot Cheerios are awful

[@ozrithclay6921]

AUSTIN PEYTON Lol That's actually a really good point!

[@lalski08]

You have no idea how massively wrong you are. Search and watch "The Cooking of Humanity" and maybe you'll raise your intellect a little.

[@2911oscar]

high frequency waves that can cause health problems later on? like cancer when you are 110?

[@changingoftheguard7256]

if you've got a smart meter take a sledgehammer to it and go off grid and remember Grandpa sitting on the front porch with the shotgun happily rocking back and forth in his rocking chair

[@HisXLNC]

Just turn his electric off. Problem solved.

[@ozrithclay6921]

HisXLNC You have to remove the meter to shut off the power.

[@ewanbowers6238]

He has a human right to have access to gas water and electricity, Not only that so long as he is paying for the electric that he uses he is not breaking any laws

[@ozrithclay6921]

Even No they will turn Electric off if you don't pay the water bill. And the is tampering with the meter.

[@jmowreader9555]

No, Ozzrith. They can disconnect the power from on top of the pole.

[@ozrithclay6921]

jmowreader By physically cutting the power lines? They can I guess. But I was talking the typical worker. That would involve calling in a linemen. A pair of bolt cutters and a police officer will be a whole lot cheaper than that.

[@jeffreyspradley8895]

It is a Statute or code. Statutes and codes apply to Corporations only. You know, the Corporation that is named in all capital letters on your electric bill. Looks like your name but it's not.

[@frederiquezug5938]

*Yes, but these new smart meters have a HUGE source of RADIATION* *WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ALMOST 100 DEATHS EVERY MONTH FROM THE SMART METER RADIATION?*

[@auntiem873]

Here’s my problem with them. When you make a change to the meter or any of the mains you then fall under that years housing code. Meaning you have to upgrade all your electricals with that years housing codes. So if your house is 10,15, 20+ years old you will have a big bill for updates to accommodate someone else’s property, to make them happy/rich and not you.

[@marthaavila7325]

He right smart meters do catch up on fire

[@lordgarion514]

martha avila So do non smart meters....... But "dumb" meters don't get the idiotic anti EM radiation dumbasses posting on the internet......

[@SamiKrasniqi]

But there are 2 of those boxes installed next to your bedroom anyway that belong to others .

[@dru1]

How does installing a smart meter save energy?

[@frederiquezug5938]

*IT'S VERY SIMPLE* As soon as they leave, grow-ops hire someone to *BYPASS* the smart meter. The dumb asses at the power company *FIRED* the only people who came around to check. *NOW THAT IS HOW YOUR POWER COMPANY IS SAVING YOU MONEY FOR THE GROW-OPS* 👍

[@ericarner8311]

If they do transmit, why do they still read them......

[@voiceofthepeople9871]

I sell generators and I have a group of people who refuse to get these meters and by off grid generators . It will cost you thousands if you Don’t get theses meters installed and power company will shut you off if you don’t update to new meter . Your best bet if you don’t want to spend $20-$30,000 on solar an off grid generators have the meter relocated away from your house if possible to where you’ll be far enough away and the signal will not affect you and if it burns up it will not take your house with it.

[@blackworldtraveler3711]

Voice of the People Where I live they are changing out wood siding for hardie board. When they disconnect the meters from the wall they install this faraday cage type material before installation of new siding and smart meter to prevent radiation from going through the wall of end unit.

[@jamesaddison7592]

But aren’t radio waves part of the lower end of the spectrum¿

[@jimmycarter9099]

If people want there light bill to go down turn everything off before you leave for work except the fan it doesn’t take no more than 30 to 45 minutes to cool the house off this will keep the ac from kicking on and off all day . I use to do this and my light bill was 60 to 65 dollars a month good luck and try to find ways to cut back on your power usage.

[@shelleygold4923]

Power to him!!!

[@honglee6100]

u can opt out u just have to pay more. the stuff pulsates through your house makes people sick

[@theatlantean39]

You actually have a legal right to refuse those things. This has been gone over before in court.

[@Theempiresf49]

He is a very smart man

[@darknessblades]

that is the fun part. USA smart meters are unsafe while meters in the EU are safer. (some older models do have some issue's but those are already being replaced and gone. {the ones that read a higher voltage, people with meters which read less energy used are properly happy with their meter since they pay less due a false/fake reading due some glitch in that specified model meter})

[@NateNate60]

I see a lot of people slamming his logic of "high-frequency radio waves", but have yet to see any technical reasons. According to Wikipedia, "radio waves" extend from as low as 3 kHz up to 300 GHz. Frequency of visible light: 430 to 770 *THz* Difference from top of radio frequency to bottom of visible frequency: 440 012.8 GHz

[@seymourscagnetti1413]

It is not out of the real of possibility for a handy homeowner to put a post in the ground five or ten feet from his structure. He will then mount a meter can with a disconnect at eye level in order that the utility co. can read the meter. Homeowner can run conduit and cable from meter can to structure. Utility can then connect at post with meter base. I think 10 feet is a safe distance in case the smart meter wants to blow off like a fucking volcano.

[@sandufloor8559]

They recently upgraded our powerline to carry higher voltage from the lower voltage. now if a squirrel farts while on the line power goes out

[@TheOriginalSycHolic]

yeah Im still wondering what he was smoking when he said 'high voltage' Im already laughing.. maybe I dont need what he's got.

[@americanpatriot9865]

If these things are digital they can be hacked. And what kind of spyware is installed in them?

[@vladislavdracula1763]

Uh, well, none. They are designed to be simple, inexpensive machines. They can be hacked, but hackers can't do much else besides shut off the power altogether, which can be easily fixed by a call to the power stations.

[@walksfarwoman5227]

I am in the process of a formal PA PUC complaint against West Penn Power Company to try to delay installation of a smart meter. It is obvious that the PA Legislature, the PUC and West Penn Power Company have worked together to entrap all PA electric consumers into this mandatory global agenda. I cannot find a loophole and I cannot find anyone else in PA who has been successful in opting out. If anyone has been through this process and can offer any advice it would be most appreciated.

[@frederiquezug5938]

LAWSUIT Your power company has gone out of its way to hide the fact smart meter are dangerous. Go to your power provider website and search pacemakers. My money is on the fact you will not find any warnings about medical implants. So phone your power provider and ask them to respond by mail, with all the safety information they have on medical implants and the dangers smart meter are to these medical devices. Trust me, they will not send you anything but how safe their smart meters are. With that letter, stating your power providers smart meters are safe, here are two things to do. #1 fccid.net/document.php?id=1459876#axzz3XsGlxdT7 Click on this link and *SAVE* it. Page 3 is what you really need to read. This is what is says. *RF Exposure* In accordance with FCC requirements of human exposure to radio frequency fields, the radiating element shall be installed such that a minimum separation distance of *20 centimeters* will be maintained. To make a long story short, the testing company (ACS) has written installation and safety instructions for the smart meter they have tested. When installing their smart meters, your power provider has to make sure you can not get with 8 inches of your smart meter or it will *HARM* you. That is mandated by the FCC. The distance for a person with a shielded medical implant (Pacemaker) is almost 12 inches. The distance for a person with an *unshielded medical implant* is up to 4 feet. Anyone doctor or medical implant technician will provide valuable information to keep the disabled person from being *KILLED* #2 Go to an accident / liability lawyer. (the kind that work for free and take a percentage when they win) Present all of this information on how your power provider *FAILED* to inform their customers about the dangers to medical implants as presented by the Testing Company (ACS), the smart meter manufacturer and the FCC. And finally, if any member of you family is killed by the *RADIATION* from your smart meter, The CEO of your power provider can be charged with *FIRST DEGREE MURDER* for knowing about the these dangers and suppressing this life saving information from his customers. After that win in court, the lawsuit will be *HUGE* :-) www.medtronic.com/patient-services/cardiac-emc-guide/communications-office-equipment/index.htm Smart Meter (utility companies) www.arrl.org/files/file/Technology/Pacemaker/SSL_Radio_Frequency_Transmission.pdf Other Types of medical implants that are a *HUGE RISK* Cochlear implants Implantable active monitoring devices Implantable cardiac pacemakers Implantable defibrillators Implantable infusion pumps Implantable stimulators Neurostimulators (Deep Brain Stimulators) Spinal stimulators Best of luck for you and your family.

[@AL_O0]

High frequency radio waves you say? The freaking visible light is higher frequency than the microwave he (probably) isn’t using for the same reason

[@Kevinm0626]

After the interview, He probably answers a phone call on his smart phone. Lol

[@RosyOutlook2]

Oh imagine that he doesn't want to have a fire hazard and fry-o-lator on his house, the nerve.

[@ryuranzou]

That giant ball of fire shining on him has higher frequency beams of light

[@btchllama]

Why does he care about the "later on" effects. He isn't going to see them.

[@waynep343]

It's a bigger issue that you can't verify the actual meter reading. Would you buy you gasoline at a station that only showed dollar values on how much you bought when you got your credit card bill. No way to verify at the meter manually. Yet if you go off grid they condemn your house because you have no electrical service from the utility and children's services takes your children for the same reason

[@burtgummer463]

I'll tell you something that these meters affect in a negative way. My older analog metal detectors barely function any longer in my mother's neighborhood. The WiFi routers started the interference problem, and these meters finished them off. The airwaves are too crowded.

[@vladislavdracula1763]

Have you ever measured this???

[@burtgummer463]

Vladislav Dracula with an RF meter..No. But the WiFi signals are the only change in this area. Logical guess on my part.

[@talonfluff]

the high frequency signal it too weak to do any damage to body. But i agree about them catching fire.

[@frederiquezug5938]

*Why don't we show people why almost 100 people are dying every month, then we can move on to smart meters arsonists*

[@guysimpson2080]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2WtdXippcmra5o

[@c.neekan9118]

Mine exploded with no effects happening to it,,heard a boom n a hiss

[@Trancelistic]

Besides fire hazzard they are also not save cuz of the radiation they admit.

[@aaronyun8185]

I wonder why power meters are high voltage. Maybe it's because the power going to your home is also high voltage.

[@timmytubede]

You don't want a smart meter? Just install solar panels on your roof, set up a load of batteries and end your electricity contract. We are doing that right now, some of the most essential systems in our house (Wifi router, heating controller, air ventilation system and the emergency radio) are already running off grid right now on batteries that are recharged by a temporary single solar panel throughout the day. The off grid system runs on 24 V DC (just like a motorhome) so we need to convert a few devices that currently run on 230 V AC. The cooler and freezers will be next, then the water pumps, then the lights, ... You do need thick cables for low voltage systems but in return the safety regulations are much less restrictive. For example you can place a 24 V light switch in reach of a shower while it is highly illegal to do the same with a 230 V light switch for obvious reasons. We do already have a motorhome that my parents built themselves from an old coach. So installing this off grid system in our house is the same procedure just in a much bigger dimension. If that's too much work for you, you can just buy a DC/AC converter to 230 V and keep all your electrics as they are. There might be some things you should know however. The German legislation is about to require off grid electricity systems to pay grid costs as well in the future, even though they don't use the grid.

[@jimmycarter9099]

They are actually a good meter I have one myself my light bill did not go up

[@davidpetrusewicz7729]

I'm electrician I got called out to some jobs about 12 different costumer lost half there house lost a hot lag And found smart meter burnt up was weekest link and had to replace the meter socket. And the meter company installed a new smart meter. I'm not crazy about them 2

[@mizzwanned]

He’s right! I love him

[@cinimatics]

You'd expect a retired engineer to be less crazy. He should have just admitted he doesn't like change.

[@davidfricker3258]

Can you go off grid? Can you shelter yourself from the Hf radiation?

[@thatguywiththeface1741]

Central maine power is actually being investigated for it's customers being overcharged because of smart meters.

[@frederiquezug5938]

*YOU HAVE TO SAY HMM* OVER BILLING OVERBILLING OVERBILLING oldgoatgxp 2 weeks ago said: It was a good move to have your meter tested. I'm not sure what kind of meter you had, if it was analog or electronic, but you should have had 2 registers, one for kwatts delivered and one for kwatts received. If you used 2000 kw and put 1000 back on the grid, you should only be charged for 1000 kw. I f you feel like your meter isn't metering correctly, just have an independent metering service test your meter. It shouldn't take more than about 5 minutes to do so. If you have some sort of electric utility commission and if you feel there is not integrity with the metering system, file a complaint against them. In my area the meter must run between 99.00% and 101.00%. What this means is if you use $100 dollars worth of electricity, your bill could be between $99-$101. If your electric utility was messing with the firmware, it would cause them multiple problems. Just think of the problems Volkswagen has with the tampering with the pollution controls, it would be about the same, and they would have one hell of a class action lawsuit to fight and millions to pay if proven wrong. Good luck with moving out of the city, I wish you well.

[@Asian_Connection]

Companies can manipulate the meters. Does anyone consider that smart meter allows the power company to speed up your meter! That is why alot of people are saying that smart meters are reading more or faster. Someone should prove that.

[@chadkennedy529]

Welcome to Pittsburgh, we have some real strange one's here!