Refurbished Logo Evolution: WNET (1948-Present) [Ep.60]

[@purpleskysproductions4656]

I have a few things to say: 1. The source you mentioned for the WNDT owl from 1968 is called "All in the Game." 2. That same owl logo is shown THREE times in the source, not ONCE. (Warning: the second one may not be too clear.) 3. For the 5th logo, I went with "The Split Rectangles." 4. The logo used from 1999 to 2006 has a few station id's. Four of them to be exact.

[@ultraplayer7436]

This song is called World 1 Grassland (Winter version) from NSMB2 for Nintendo 3DS which can be heard in World 5

[@logomankrafter4169]

@Caden Harris LOL

[@JustJaidenism]

Gacha Bad.

[@amvianna1]

No It Is From NSMBW

[@visionnr2004]

This has been a program of WNET, Channel 13

[@dhnyc7550]

The logo at approx 8:10 (we called it "the Venetian Blinds" logo) has the correct colors in this first version, starting an orangey-red and ending a low luminance cyan-teal. I produced it together with a WNET graphics designer, and we chose the colors very carefully. Unfortunately some tape editors decided to change the second color to a more standard (and boring) blue. The audio here, from a 35mm print, is almost without the "wow" caused by poor playback speeds found in most of the other versions.

[@lp-xl9ld]

What's crazy is that I had a memory that WNET had been called something else during my early childhood, which I thought was WNED (but that's the PBS station in Buffalo, NY). So it was WNDT. Thanks for clearing that up. (PS: Got to admit, the 70s music is my favorite also...and as for the "Art Deco" 13, you could see it, correctly oriented, on the tote bag you'd get if you donated to the station back then.

[@raduvicol3344]

Thanks to all members and the following for their support of Thirteen's programing today.

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

23:09

[@TR3XProductions1stChannel]

This was a decent presentation. I thought the microphone quality went extremely loud at certain points, which bothered me from continuing watching this. Nevertheless, the reviews on these logos were nice, and I do agree with you that the 2019 logo is the best animated modern logo from the previous 2 logos WNET had, and most of the logos (up to the late 1980s/1990s) still using old techniques, which is certainly interesting. I enjoyed the conclusion to this too, and let's make 2020 another great year for CCG88! :-)

[@TR3XProductions1stChannel]

@Lachlan MC Magee [POE TWO] wat

[@lookatmeplease]

TR3X PR0DÚCTÍ0NS uh

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

Agreed. I watched programs by WNET 13 a lot when I was little

[@MinecraftandRobloxfanFortniteT]

Hi CCG88 and TR3X Productions

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

I think how they did the spotlight logo at 19:57 was that someone moved a structure with a large flashlight through a carved box with "WNET" carved on it, while the circular moving text was animated. I suspect the box was raised via a raising platform raised to the exact same height (maybe) as the searchlight structure.

[@imrustyokay]

I like this series, you know, my favorite PBS Member Station is...well East Tennessee PBS, since it's both my local station, and the place I intern at.

[@saigerodgers3871]

Otori:じゃあそれいちどだけに私のこと Miku:私にわからないじゃなくて

[@Random22]

23:59 Nostalgia hit hard

[@googlechrom3297]

Isn’t that cyber chase? I used to watch that as a kid lol

[@Justin5774Life]

Same!

[@jessicathethreestoogesfan2635]

I used to watch Cyberchase That show was awesome

[@tiffanyhoman4630]

NNNNNNEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLVVVVVVAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAA

[@NoahRonaldo22]

Yeah I Watch cyberchase ever since I was a kid back when I first saw it in 2013 and I still do today I don't care What age I am It feels amazing to have it still going after 20 years

[@davidmatthewvinotjr8396]

11:36 That was the one I found on KZbin (or the AAPB, Not sure which one) And noted it's absence on the CLG

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

👏👍

[@tracestephens7659]

27:31 This line aged like milk LOL He only produced 6 RLEs in 2020 (Episodes 61-66) And quit logo content during late 2020

[@SuperWindows78]

I would’ve imagined that the WNDT Owl logo flashes between white and black. No I do not mean FLASHING FREAKING SEIZURE.

[@Lampcasee]

I remember being six and seeing those WNET logos from 2006-2015 and the 2009 one from watching Cyberchase a lot.

[@andrewtisler02]

Same. I think that some of the logos shown in this video were from the end of the show. I do remember a couple "Barney & Friends" episodes using the 2009-2019 logo.

[@wyattmanhabel644]

Also when PBS aired the CGI era of Thomas & Friends

[@AldenMoellerInc]

Best RLE yet, Cam.

[@Musicradio77Network]

Interesting history though. But there were a few that were missing in this episode. The “Abstract 13” logo was introduced in around 1979 or 1980 to be exact. The “Abstract 13” can be used for station sign-offs and earlier idents from the 1980’s. There was one logo that I remember before watching “Square One TV” back in 1988 was “Only the Best” ident with the “Abstract 13” in a radar. That was from the mid to late 1980’s. I’ll have to dig deep to find them.

[@CCGFilms]

Not all ID's were featured in this video. The ID's mentioned were on the main CLG Wiki page.

[@Musicradio77Network]

CCG88 BTW, as you mentioned that WNET signed on back on May 15th, 1948, and that was a month before WPIX-TV (channel 11) signed on a month later which was June 15th of that same year. Both WNET and WPIX were signed on in 1948.

[@CCGFilms]

Didn't know that. Wow.

[@swainthemedic]

my god i love the one with the cyberchase music. thats my childhood right there

[@NoahRonaldo22]

Same and I still watch it to this day, Whoever hate the show, well they can go frick themselves cause this is also my childhood show and still will, nobody can change my mind

[@Flaretale52]

As of typing this, Cyberchase is currently on Season 14!

[@GenkiRose325]

@@Flaretale52 It looks like Gilbert Gottfried is already dead and got replaced by Ron Pardo….

[@andrewtisler02]

@@GenkiRose325 the guy from "PAW Patrol"?!

[@GenkiRose325]

I don’t know if Ron Pardo is from Paw Patrol or not………

[@indayteray8647]

I call the 5th logo "The Boring Stacks".

[@liamprattley1851]

I'd think i'd call it "Big 13 II"

[@bolinau8810]

I can rename it the 13 box

[@tavotavo7772]

me too

[@zachatck64]

I call it "The Big 13 II"

[@zuhazana_core]

I will call it The Big 13 Box

[@saigerodgers3871]

- Miku:私はフィリンあなたいれじゃないんだよ CCG88, 私はじんているここにもするじんといつでもある私なのことをいつもことにです...そうこれでここにもすることように！じゃないようにはいつもじゃない だから私のことにすることにですからしてるねぎをいつへだけならえきになしてるじゃなくて あてるここでにもゆらりゆれるいくつように じゃあー, 私はいいかなじゃないんだよ だからなんてもをすることにゆっくりとですから Rin:じゃあ, あたしもすてきする13なんてにもことひとつようになる ねぇ たこルカちゃんもうちこないているにするときにですこないできつねでしょうねすることになりたいねそれだならへときにしようにでしょうから!! Tako Luka:え? Luka:どこかなにしてるのにませんわ... こんなにでしょうしらないかわいいしらないしのに

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

My fav from this RLE was the Radar logo. 16:56 Most video caught WNET logos aren't bad, like the skyscraper logo, the structure one confused bits of people, saying that the 13 in that one looked a bit like ones rear, but they havent turned it. The bubbles logo is unique, imo. I like the Red background on one of the 'bubbles' logos. It kinda looks like the bubbles are forming fireworks. 23:09 I've seen the skyscrapers logo many times (mainly the second version). 24:21 I like the bgm on the overall vid and the non fiction television on the superimposed sliding bars logo.

[@CP1973_Productions]

The 2020 prediction didn’t happen until 2021 with a very simple logo under the name "The WNET Group" and I call the 1963 logo "The 13"

[@darkwolfknight8293]

The 1963 one is Bookshelf WNDT. And also, I saw the WNET Skyline as a kid.

[@iwaju9227]

1. I think the "weird 13" might be a fake logo 2. the puzzle logo: i dont feel so good...

[@caramelpro6949]

we are not sure if the weird 13 is real but we will gonna find out in the future

[@ChaseMC215]

Before anyone asks, no, NET is not the same NET before PBS demolished it, you might be fooled i to thinking so because one of the logos was straight up called NET, and that was in the 70's, that was not the same NET that went on to die because of PBS, that was still WNET.

[@bluballanimations]

The owl from WNDT in 1962 reminds me of The Harry Potter Owl

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

That would be Hedwig

[@bluballanimations]

@@AlolaMaskedYT Mhkay

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

@@bluballanimations If you look at the radar logo to the left, you can see the twin towers

[@bluballanimations]

@@AlolaMaskedYT JIMMY NO!

[@linainverse9369]

It looks nothing like Hedwig

[@AldenMoellerInc]

I’d call the 1963 logo “The WNDT Shelves”.

[@washmonument]

@Evan Jimenez r/ihadastroke

[@fyredylnxd2179]

No randomness

[@lenadams854]

@Evan Jimenez stroke!

[@WhomeCouldntbe1]

3:35

[@purpleskysproductions4656]

Actually, WNTA signed off on December 22, 1961, due to a transfer (which was going to be on December 13 originally, but a few last-minute issues arose resulting in a 9-day delay). WNDT was essentially a revival of channel 13 in New York.

[@thoseonetrains]

Actually, their 26th logo might not even exist. They might as well continue using their 2009 logo alongside the new PBS logo.

[@karter812_]

Your probably right! I just saw the new logo alongside the PBS logo!

[@e.hcreative6718]

I think the spot light one was interesting. Somebody could have used a flash light or a stage light to light up the WNET box since it was made in life action.

[@essaearafej831]

Ah, The Season's Greetings WNET Thirteen ID. Love It (Only This Ident That I Am Describing)!

[@bloatedpizzarolls7005]

Mi 2

[@Father_of_Death]

The synthesizer music is pretty cool. If only we could find a version where the audio is not warped and damage.

[@Bluoper]

This is my local PBS station

[@robertmugnomain]

The 2006 logo is my favorite one

[@MarioChristmas]

Did this video came out on christmas 2019?

[@jadsi]

Yep

[@ConclusiveLion663]

Rare handle without random numbers @mariochristmas oh is your real name or you favourite character

[@GenkiRose325]

Did WNET collaborate with Nelvana to create Cyberchase?

[@Saige-hg1xi]

Yes.

[@Saige-hg1xi]

Miku:そうですが

[@tammyhastings5761]

on thirteens page their icon is still an owl to this day

[@CP1973_Productions]

We have video footage of WATV and yes it’s a still

[@tracestephens7659]

Both yours and JontyMaster’s Logo Histories came out the same day (December 25, 2019)

[@georgegarchitorena]

The 5th logo looks like an in-credit logo to me, so I think i’ll call it “In-Credit WNDT” or “In-Credit 13”. EDIT: Another thing, the WATV logo might’ve been a print logo they placed around the station.

[@gracjanwrocksdorasucksEnternai]

The WATV logo is not a print.

[@xeochannelalt]

I'd call it EBC 13

[@andrewtisler02]

Some of the logos you showed were from the ending of "Cyberchase". I can tell by the theme song.

[@Justin5774Life]

I grew up with the Bubbles logo from 1999-2006 as well up the Skyscraper one.

[@arnauticus687]

I grew up with Manhattan Skyline (2009-)

[@linainverse9369]

I grew up with the bubbles one, I watched a lot of cyberchase

[@jacobwiggle3681]

There was one for Sprout that had 2 reported versions. The one that was found had only Thirteen and the camera moved slowly, and one which no text appears at all, and only has footage of the empire state building which is lost.

[@FG-gu9rn]

There was a logo you doesn't put it. It's nickname is "Zooming Ball". It's used from 2000-2008.

[@MannyMoto1]

I use to live in New York... Thirteen has some good shows on there.

[@saigerodgers3871]

Miku and CCG88, and everyone:(talking about WNET) Miku:じゃあ, やるくめとふぁいつまでもこんなふうに私はやるぽんよろしくですよねぇひみつやるですようには••• Nana:すてきずっとことにすこしてるんでしょう Teto:なにもするかいねしろしろやるだおー。 Kaito:じゃあー、 やることにするここでいいやーるんだよ Meiko:かれってらいいのゆめようにはですよ 私はじゃってうしろにはそれときにじゃっとやるですか？それにやることじらしいから ただいいのだけどやるってくるくるまわるようだなあ～よろしくねなんてにするんだよ Luka:このままでいいときわする私はあるじゃなくてけどですようにだれかのよくてきるいつでもにわからないやってるときにしちゃおうよろしくねだよ Rin:あはは、マンハッタンスカイラインっていうかわいいはよろしくじゃないにはじゃないなのに私はことにどうしようかえるのうたじゃあねえようになのです Len:えー? そんなことにはじゃないことないよ ? Defoko:やって, 私のことになるかぜようにはいつまでもばかりやっぱりかわいいのにならじゃないには Momo:あいわきてるよせかいわやってすることにじゃないだようにから••• CCG88:I told you these IDs were basic! All:CGI Skyscrapers! / マンハッタンスカイライン！ / ブッブルス！ (They are fighting which WNET identifications are the best.) - Haku:それにだってしゃべていたくしひとつすることにすてきやってにも私のことするからはるんでしょう やってもそれどれいいんだよやってなぁことに... - Will we ever find this logo? - じゃあー, 私はからひじまるようにはあるんだからそれは、やってるんことんただゆかんいざやへじゃんにすることになるからですよねぇ！

[@saigerodgers3871]

STAY IN THIS TOWER! I PRANCE ABO

[@SweetinLoverthatsshow]

21:16 that music!!! MEMORIES!!!

[@cinecomspace7862]

I call Sonic Luigi & Iris heart's shelves from 1963

[@apier6738]

3:51 That’s what I was talking about. The music sounds really weird. I know the pics are black and white bc it was old but the music.... creepy 0-0 But what was the movie called when that ended? I like all the other ones tho :)

[@JustJaidenism]

Its Not Cause Its Old, It's Because The Dye Keeping The Color Was Unstable, And The Video "Source" Was Stored Very Poorly.

[@apier6738]

Oh ok. I think that happens when it was a long time ago

[@JustJaidenism]

@@apier6738 Yeah, Not Just With Old Film, Uncommonly, Newer Film Can End Up Like That If You Just Stuff It In A Moist Closet For 5 Years.

[@apier6738]

Yea. I don’t really think they still do logos like that anymore or do they?

[@apier6738]

Also the music wasn’t that stable

[@davidfriends9871]

22:22 bonus points if you can guess what the show is called

[@lightningmcqueenfan957]

Cyber chase!

[@baedenwilliams8291]

@@lightningmcqueenfan957 Cyberchase!

[@raduvicol3344]

The following program is from WNET Thirteen.

[@raduvicol3344]

Produced in New York by WNET.

[@JamesTheLogoMan]

Merry Christmas! :D

[@alzoraig]

The Show that was Produced by Nelvana and WNET is Called "Cyberchase". Gilbert Gottfried and Doc Brown Himself (Chris Lloyd) Worked on this.

[@wynonnamareeuy]

I didn't know that Iago the parrot and Doc Brown worked on a cartoon show.

[@BlitzøBuckzo-z5y]

Who did Christopher Lloyd voice? I suspect it was the villain or that kleptomaniac cat named Swipe

[@MichaelBoyce-tm2vw]

There also a board countdown too.

[@AryanAdhikary-fv9ph]

On the spotlight logo, the announcers name is Tom Stuart

[@Brandonwalls456]

8:03 My favorite logo is the puzzle because I love the music and animation and color schemes

[@rahsanwhite6034]

I know I'm late to the party, but the 1999-2005 logo had a variant that was a plain white background with blue text/bubbles.

[@KevinRayner2008]

WNET began airing on May 15, 1948, as WATV in Newark, New Jersey, & in New York. Almost 10 years later on May 7, 1958 as WNTA/TV with the call sign standing for National Telefilm Association. September 16, 1962, WNTA/TV renamed to WNDT with the call sign stand for New Dimension in Television, Joining National Educational Television. Beginning in 1967, WNDT & NET merged. As Such On October 1, 1970 WNDT renamed itself for the final time changing to WNET.

[@munkiandtrunktvofficialchannel]

3:30 : VIDEO FOOTAGE NOT FOUND

[@tiffanyhoman4630]

RIP BND OF DOOM [1951-2021]

[@washmonument]

I don't get it.

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

Um... ok?

[@MichaelOKeefe2009]

WNET hasn't changed their logo yet. Still using the older PBS logo.

[@saigerodgers3871]

In the same fashion, a version that reads WNET Creative News Group.

Did u realize that your WNET logo history was uploaded on the SAME DAY as JontyMaster’s logo history of WNET?

[@winstonang6200]

25:16 where's the word thirteen?

[@winstonang6200]

It was defunct

[@sonicthehedgehogrulesdorat2535]

I remember seeing the cgi skyscrapers logo on Thomas and friends on pbs kids back in the day

[@anavarrette83]

I finally watched sole the tv series on tv and the logos were a in credit version of wnet thirteen, the 1970 PBS logo, and the net 13th logo

[@kofijo10]

Logo tower cyberchase was my childhood

[@mattypad777]

So if logo 6: Scanimate Letters/Numbers was used from 1972 - 1973 and logo 8: The Puzzle was used from 1973 to 1979 then logo 7: Weird 13 must have been used once in 1973 as a experimental logo.

[@littlemissgreedythehippiei8097]

1963 Logo: Thin 13 and Wide WNDT

[@bloatedpizzarolls7005]

Call it “Comic 13 and WNDT.”

[@littlemissgreedythehippiei8097]

No, I like it.

[@e.hcreative6718]

22:22 ending theme is from Cyber Chase!

[@Goobernolongerpostsrandom]

Fun fact: The Great Performances variant has been found

[@thelarrycompany8514]

I'll call it 'The Funnies'. Because it (to me) looks like a comic in a newspaper.

[@bloatedpizzarolls7005]

No, I called it “Thin 13 and Wide WNDT.”

[@littlemissgreedythehippiei8097]

Yeah, I agree.

[@saigerodgers3871]

(Hey look its the Curious from CO!) NARRATOR: He is drawn to them. Ever done something that you needed to prove or steal? You won't fear the world ending of everything off of the shelf because you never know whatever brings your loneself of all affermative no matter how misguided they were before even if you vanquish along with every foe.

[@LuOli2]

Es una muy buena idea hacer una intro nevando y poner una variante de un logo perteneciente a la Navidad / It is a very good idea to make an intro snowing and put a variant of a logo belonging to Christmas

[@kofijo10]

The one in puzzle wnet in black and white was from another video.

[@williamboldman6996]

I have a nickname for [No Nickname Available] which is 13 poster

[@davidnetix]

New Super Mario Bros Wii BGM

[@ConclusiveLion663]

It sounds like super Mario forever fan game

[@saigerodgers3871]

Will we ever find this logo? I would say "We will"

[@15-reyesreuben66]

Can you do RLE Season 2, CCG88?

[@firstnameiskowitz8493]

12:14 "from _1979_ to 1985" *proceeds to write **_1976_**-1985*

[@zachatck64]

Oof :/

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

It's a pretty forgivable mistake.

[@rxbiluhvrp]

I grew up with the bubbles and Manhattan skyline logos

[@Saige-hg1xi]

First, you join hands and turn around, then, wiggle your shoulders. Then, shake your body. Put your thumbs to your head, then wiggle your fingers to the beat. Now, turn your body. Move your elbows. And, then, you flap 'em. Move your body and move your arms. Bend your knees to the rhythm of the beat. Jump up and down. Move your body. Move your body. Move your body. Move your body. Move your body. Move your body. Move your body. Move your body.

[@lauriepfister5677]

21:12 abstract 13 3 21:56 bubbles Nelvana 23:44 cgi 24:26 Manhattan 2020: 26:12

[@barneythedinosaur4283]

I've always liked watching this guy's videos

[@Nathaniel2256Studios]

The 2009 logo's music is lovely

[@chikamotokenji3217]

5th is rectangular 13

[@mig0171]

I like the cgi skyscraper one I grew up with it

[@vanessaolbertz5340]

Mario game music is in the background.

[@vanessaolbertz5340]

#makemorevids

[@robamyroush5813]

After four star can you do bkn?

[@SmudgerEntertainment]

Hi everyone from chat!

[@CowboysNo1Fan]

Logo 5 I would call: "The Thirteen Bookshelf"

[@amvianna1]

For Me, The Nickname To Logo 5 Is In-Credit Big 13 Or Big 13 2. Comment Your Nickname To Logo 5 Here!

[@laotian12innumberverse6]

11:40 Ouch...

[@SatsukiVM]

We need a non-warped version of that WNET Science logo!!!

[@AlolaMaskedYT]

At least SOMEONE found this version. It's better than nothing, imo

[@MichaelBoyce-tm2vw]

The Childrens Television Network aka Public Television.

[@abhiramakella7146]

Music used: New Super Mario Bros. Wii Snow Theme (kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqHUdnmbadR7esk&feature=emb_title)

[@NoahRonaldo22]

23:55 That Would Be My Childhood Show Cyberchase

[@Brandonwalls456]

I wish I could collect Betamax and Laserdiscs too but I only had VHS and DVD

[@Skullbullsnoper]

call that logo "stacky stack wndt"

[@MinecraftandRobloxfanFortniteT]

I found the Great performances logo

[@chuckecheeseminnesota]

Link?

[@radiosaido66]

​​​@@chuckecheeseminnesota I had originally found it and uploaded it to my logo archive channel :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGOVXnWCbppsg6M