Derailed Locomotive and a Broken Rail!

[@MrBo-sg6hu]

That oily stuff on the rails we call “crater” grease. Its used in the gear boxes. It comes in a sealed plastic bag; one throws the whole bag in the gearbox, and it chews it up. We put a bag in every 92 days. There really is no seal to the gearbox, so it more or less oozes out from everywhere. It let’s you know its in there.

[@johniacono3725]

Thank you, Just worried that something else was broken. I have some RR background. I worked as a Steam RR Fireman for the Valley RR in Conn. Lots of Fun but I got too old for the job. Lots of responsibility !

[@richardbause2453]

Just don't get the Grease on your close or yourself, it doesn't like to come off and if bubblegum is bad on the bottom of your shoes, this is worse.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks so much my friend for sharing that info with us.

[@1ironbird1]

I just stumbled on your videos tonight. Reminds me of good times when I was 18yr old working for a short line rr owned by Ideal Basics in South West Arkansas. Our train switched out the cement cars, and we had two feed mills for the chicken industry that is big here. I only worked there 5 years, part of the time on the track crew, part of the time in a shop repairing cars that came on the line. We did it all, also, derailments, filling the sand bunkers on the locomotives, pulling traction motors, etc. We had a two man shop crew that kept up our two locomotives we had. Just one thing we did with the rerailers, was to drive a spike in the ties behind the ears of device. I certainly would not try to tell you your job, you guys certainly got the job done 👍👍. Thank you for the videos! Brings back great memories.

[@ccrx6700]

@@1ironbird1 👍😊❤️

[@bigun447]

Aww shucks, I was hoping you had a steam crane coming in to set it back on. I stood in the rain one night about 55 years ago just to watch one of those steam cranes pick up and place a diesel locomotive back on the repaired track that was about 10' away from the track. Watching the operator pulling and pushing on those levers was impressive.

[@ccrx6700]

Now that would have been awesome to see a steam crane in here and see that working. They called them Big Hooks back in the day for lifting heavy stuff like locos. Thanks so much for dropping by and taking in tonight's show my friend.

[@waynehall6273]

I have seen one of those Bucyrus steam cranes in operation back in the late 1960's working a derailment north of Oglethorpe, Ga. It was impressive watching it and the communications with the locomotive without a radio.

[@bigun447]

@@waynehall6273 The thing that amazed me was that when he started any movement or lifts was the small size of the steam cylinders. That was when I really started realizing the power of steam. Seeing those side boom crawlers today just is not the same.

[@tombittikoffer412]

This is incredible that we get such detailed coverage of such incredibly unusual events. Thank you so much for the time and effort you take in putting these together for us.

[@ccrx6700]

Your very welcome. So glad you enjoyed. We really appreciate your very nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.

[@johnpotter4750]

Nice to see even the initial failed re-rail event, never seen the like in my 40+ years (Ex-Electrification (ECRO) S.R. UK)

[@ccrx6700]

@@johnpotter4750 👍😊

[@raymondsprengelmeyer1278]

There is even mystery and suspense on the railroad! Thank you for sharing Dave! It is always a good idea to find the cause of a problem, but sometimes it is not possible, I think it happens to everyone eventually.

[@ccrx6700]

This happened a year ago Raymond and I'm still puzzled as to why. We ran same loco for thousands of trains since then with no problems at all. Was just a bad hair day for the loco that night. But, that's railroading. Always a pleasure to have you pay us a visit my friend.

[@CSltz]

When someone hits something on the road with a snowplow . And ruins the blade. They call it a “frozen squirrel “!

[@oneFreetinker]

So cool. The forces at work are amazing. Always glad you bring us along.

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed tonight's home movie oneFreetinker. We certainly do appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.

[@jimpokorny4598]

When them rerailer things slip off it shuts a guy's breathing off for a second. Whew-we Dave that was scary, that's enough breathing exercises for one day. Good video 😀

[@ccrx6700]

It gets really frustrating to see that happen Jim, but that's railroading. Thanks so much for the nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.

[@espeescotty]

I remember back in the day when many locomotives would carry 1 and sometimes 2 rerailers. You could still see them on Rio Grande diesels up into the 1990's. I many times have wondered if the train crews were fully expected to use them and the difficulty they'd encounter, just like we've seen here. I've seen many rerailing videos and nearly every time, the rerailer would just slide along and put the problem further down the track. I mean obviously, at some point they do work, but I wonder if by now, someone could design a better more efficient rerailer? Thanks for sharing the trials and tribulations of railroading with us, Dave. 👍💪💪

[@ccrx6700]

Our locos have hooks on them to carry the rerailers Scotty, and way in the past we used to carry them. So very rare here a loco derails tho. Gets lot's of cars go off. We have a better set of rerailers, they are aluminum and much lighter and have a bar that goes under the rail that helps very much in preventing sliding. problem that night they were at the harbor and the ballast was froze solid so it would have been a real chore to dig out under the rail. We tried using what we had up there. Always appreciate your paying us a visit and hearing from you my friend.

[@espeescotty]

@@ccrx6700 I'm glad it doesn't happen very often for your RR. I'd like to see that other style rerailer doing its thing just to see a better "mousetrap" in action. Thanks, for all of the great information, Dave. 👍

[@ccrx6700]

@@espeescotty i hope i never have to use them again to show you 😉

[@espeescotty]

@@ccrx6700 😆 10-4! 👍

[@dingdongmagee]

Man if I could be half as happy as you are in these videos I’d be much better off….. my work absolutely pisses me off constantly

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much for paying us a visit and checking out the presentation. Hope you soon get to feeling better at work my friend.

[@fryingpanhead8809]

Nothing pisses me off more than when I get an 'emergency' call when I'm ON call that's NO emergency. Which is 95% of them.

[@joemc111]

Great show Dave. When I lived in Western Maryland I heated with COAL, in 1978 nut coal at the mine cost about $35.00 a ton. Great to see you helping to keep my lights on.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much Joe for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your dropping by and watching. Nut coal now is going for $600 a ton! If you can find it. Europe is hurting for coal big time and is jacking up the price. It's really hard to find around here now.

[@richardaustin2640]

If railroading wasn't challenging, you'd soon get bored Dave! Great insight to some of those challenges. Just to help warm you up, it's 105 degrees at my place while I watch your wonderful video in air-conditioned comfort 😉

[@trainandtruckmodeler786]

South Carolina and Florida at record lows! We're are you?

[@ccrx6700]

It was plenty air conditioned that night too Richard.... :-) I don't think Ive ever been bored my whole life. Very much appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@richardaustin2640]

@@trainandtruckmodeler786 Victoria, Australia 🇦🇺

[@trainandtruckmodeler786]

@@richardaustin2640 oh man, such a fine place....I love Australia and Brasil.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

Another excellent video, Dave! Man #22 has had a hard few days! Glad they were able to get her back on the rails. Hope she's not cursed!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Shane, glad you enjoyed tonight's home movie. We certainly do appreciate your checking things out my friend.

[@jefftoft5568]

You have a gremlin living up there Dave, he just likes to let you know he is still there. Thanks Dave stay warm out there, that truly was a that's railroadin story.

[@ccrx6700]

I do think we do Jeff, but he makes for some pretty cool videos....LOL Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with me and check out the gremlin show my friend.

[@scottleidenberger4401]

Well that was exciting Dave ! I was yelling just like you were. The wife said " What's going on over their " as she sat at the kitchen table ! Totally awesome video ! The same thing happens on my model railroad. Sometimes I can't find any reason at all. At that point I say " Well that's railroadin " ! Thanks for sharing .

[@ccrx6700]

Well your right Scott that's railroading.... :-) Sorry about Mrs. getting upset with you, please blame it on me.... I really enjoyed hearing that! Always appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@rebelrailroader]

Thanks for great video Dave. Yes, derailments ae a funny thing. Something things just derail just because. We always said it happened because things were going smoothly on the railroad. I've derailed the hyrail trucks and various equipment many times. I love those butterfly rerailers, the Camelbacks are nice too, not as easy to deploy as the butterflies. There's been many derailments where we used seemingly every trick in the book to get things back on. Used butterflies to get the wheels close enough for the Camelbacks, blocks of wood, tie plates and joint bars. Sometimes even had to build a temporary track underneath the car , that always sucked.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Zach, sure wish you had been with us that night, You'd have gotten her back on! Really appreciate your sharing some of your first hand experiences with us my good friend.

[@pauld.1256]

Sounds like you all might have a bit of haunted rail area.. may want to check back in the history archives.. but all said and done, one must admit, it makes for an interesting day and a GREAT video for us ! Thank you for sharing the good , the bad, and the ugly with us Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

Really glad you enjoyed Paul. Thank you for the very nice comment and for taking the time to tune in and watch my friend.

[@mattkinnard6899]

Murphys law at work. Thats the first time I've seen a 3 axle truck only dump 1 axle off. Strange. Thanks for going in after hours to get the unique footage.

[@ccrx6700]

First time for me also Matt. Very strange and I have yet to figure it out. Glad you enjoyed the show and we always appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

[@erie910]

Did you know that Murphy's Law wasn't propounded by Murphy, but by someone else with the same name?

[@ejharrop1416]

What a night and I had a smile when you said G2, 50 years since I heard that, 😊. Thank you and enjoyed watching, cheers!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you EJ. Very glad you enjoyed the home movie. We certainly do appreciate your joining in with us and watching my friend.

[@mikefightmaster]

Your videos are so much better than watching trains going by.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Mike for the nice comment. Glad you are enjoying. Would have been hard to watch this train go by with loco on ground.... LOL Always appreciate your visiting with us my friend.

[@rickcooper6817]

Thanks Dave for the video. It's those darn little railroad gnomes. You can't see them, sometimes you hear them, and you think it's a tie squeaking, but it's really the little rascals up under the tie plates playing a fiddle. Well, that's railroading!!

[@mackfisher4487]

I understand that during World War II, the Army air Corps rumor mill inadvertently started a rumor that when equipment went bad for no apparent reason it was because of gremlins.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Rick, agree on the gnomes, I have no explanation for why this happened. However our new favorite catch all phrase for everything that goes wrong is: Thermal expansion caused by global warming initiated by man made CO 2....LOL Always a pleasure to have you visit with me my friend.

[@AgentMulder1805]

You did well not swear like a sailor, mate! I was swearing just watching! I so wanted the re railer to work. Thanks Dave this was a really good video! 🤬👍👍

[@ewp6505]

We had 7 blokes screaming at my phone just watching this

[@jimcorn3268]

The butterfly retailer you are using have teeth on the bottom edge . They are designed to grab the crosstie but you have to clean the crosstie off first or it will just slide down the rail as you seen .

[@ccrx6700]

Really appreciate your efforts at helping my friend! it was intense a few times. Very glad you enjoyed the show. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us and write in.

[@Paw95]

Got to love them late night emergencies. We get them in the bridge construction from time to time.

[@ccrx6700]

Seems like everything unwanted happens at night.... Really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.

[@blancothevanchannel]

Hey Dave, great video. I think the grease may have been knocked loose when the wheel went off rail. Indeed, the stresses on rail are most extreme in heat and cold. Keep hauling coal!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Thomas, glad you enjoyed. I think you are correct in the grease thing. Was very cold that night and things always are more of a struggle in the cold as you probably already know. Really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend. yep, we hauling coal as best we can. Got to keep those fuel supplied for those electric cars.... LOL

[@davejones7856]

I’m amazed at the flex between axles on the same truck. Thanks for sharing the rerailing process. And hope I’m never involved in that process. Keep having fun Dave!

[@ccrx6700]

The axles do have a good bit of up and down movement. If Rodney had been there, this never would have happened....LOL Always a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend.

[@paulbush7095]

Another great opportunity to see what 99% of people normally don’t get to. I’ve never heard of or seen a re-railer before but now I have thanks to you Dave! I always assumed locos and cars were re-railed by a crane. Great video man!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Paul for the very nice comment. Very glad you enjoyed this one. We certainly appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.

[@mattcat231]

Howdy Dave, I remember as a kid seeing this happen as i was watching a P&LE train from my kitchen window (a bit of a distance, but close enough to see) pulling out of Monessen steel mill, they got it re-railed in 4 tries. My theory is that the cold kept the truck from pivoting as free as it should, and forced the pressure side up and over, as a freak one time thing where all the stars aligned

[@ccrx6700]

Cool story Matt. Thanks so much for sharing with us. Pretty neat you got to see them do that. Very much appreciate your dropping by and checking out the home movie my friend.

[@JohnH0130]

When he said they were having trouble rerailing due to the truck pivot being stiff, I too wondered if that might have been the cause of the accident to begin with.

[@ericcoffedgp40]

Another very interesting installment Dave! Man, I love seeing those old EMDs! The paint scheme is very unique! Great work gents!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed the show Eric. Always appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@ericcoffedgp40]

@ccrx 6700 That's Railroadin! Sure thing Dave and thanks for sharing!

[@ccrx6700]

@@ericcoffedgp40 👍😊

[@sjwatt]

Wow, never get to see this stuff. Thanks so much! In my imagination the rim just bit a little too hard on the inside of the rail and it grabbed and walked over, maybe a rough spot in the steel or a bit of a cold weld happened, lot of high pressure physics going on under those locomotives. Thanks again!

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed the show. Certainly appreciate the nice comment and for your taking the time to watch my friend.

[@williamralph5442]

Never a dull moment on the RR Dave. Get some sleep. Thanks

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks William for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your visiting with us today and writing in my friend.

[@lewistodd9242]

Thanks for showing us how you put an engine back on the tracks. Have a great evening my friend.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Lewis, thank you for the very nice comment and for watching my friend.

[@geraldcates7785]

I have been involved in a couple of times rerailing of cars in my short time working on the Maine Central Railroad track maintenance crew ("up north in Maine" to quote a Dick Curless song). We had different rerailers, as I remember them to have been a bit bigger!

[@ccrx6700]

Always an adventure re railing, this was actually the first time we ever had to try and use re railers for a loco, in the few times in the past when locos went off, had to call in Hulcher. Thanks for sharing your story Gerald. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to watch the show my friend.

[@beverlymichael5830]

Thanks for the video. You had a very long day and the cold weather dose not help. Hard days work.

[@ccrx6700]

Cold always makes things more difficult, but that's railroading. Thank you so much Beverly for your very nice comment. We really appreciate your visiting with us and watching my friend.

[@wtfbuddy1]

Nice video Dave - do the engines carry a set of rerailers on them? Been there many times, get home and then the phone rings and off to work I'd go, glad those days a behind me. Almost learned a new cuss word tonight but you didn't share it lol. Cheers and enjoy the weekend

[@ccrx6700]

Thank You Pete glad you found this to be of interest. Like the 3 Stooges when they were in a court room. The bailiff asked, Do you swear. Curly Joe answered, no but I know all the words.... :-) Sometimes railroad adjectives are a bit "colorful" . Very much appreciate your watching the show my friend.

[@kkoch666]

Moe?

[@waynegarrison2481]

Thanks Dave.. Have a great 😃.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Wayne. So nice of you to stop by and watch the show today my friend.

[@waynegarrison2481]

@@ccrx6700 do you collect railroad stuff.... If so next time I come east. I'll stop by and give it to you.

[@ccrx6700]

@@waynegarrison2481 👍😊

[@ssweeps]

FYI...I would recommend replacing all of the rails and ties every 5 years... Also the hopper cars every 10 years. The locos...every 10 years. Remember the workload these machines have to endure, plus the weather. I think it would actually save money in the long run. I understand the mine has at least 30 years of coal left. Steve in California

[@ccrx6700]

Well let's see, 21 ties per 39 foot section of rail at $100 a tie to buy them and install. Next comes $1500 for a new stick of 39 foot rail, then replace both sides of the track, plus the cost to install the rail. Now figure that times 16 miles of track to do. Then for the cars, $20,000 per used car, plus another 20,000 just to get them here. If you buy new cars they are around $125,000 per car times 60 some cars we have. Better get a bigger calculator to figure all that up! Or we better start selling our coal for 500 a ton to pay for it.... :-)

[@Arkay315]

Nice to see the locomotive got back up on the track.

[@ccrx6700]

Wish I could have stayed to film that arkay, but it was late when they got it back on and I had to get home to bed for work the next day. Always appreciate hearing from you my friend.

[@Bassotronics]

I could have suspected wheel needs Re-profiling or bolster pin area needs to be checked, or rail kink or improper gauge etc..but considering it derailed in straight track that is ok leaves me scratching my head. There are many reasons a derailment can happen on a curve but very few reasons it may happen on straight track. Glad it was resolved but the mystery remains.

[@ccrx6700]

These are the times when one wishes he had a GoPro mounted to the axle to see what really happened! :-) Sometimes weird stuff happens. This was taken over a year ago and we've ran thousands of trains since then over this with no more problems. My head is perplexed over this one. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

[@tazrortheelder5307]

Watched a video a few days ago where the last few cars had so much harmonic rocking it looked like the trucks were about to lift off the track, the guy filming even shouted, "It's going to derail!". Somehow those cars stayed on the rails, despite how far out those cars leaned. I needed to see this video of yours right now though. We're having one of those months where everything at home wants to break or go wrong at the same time. Puts our troubles into a little more perspective.

[@ccrx6700]

I hear you on the when it rains it pours, seems like that happens in cycles around our home too,.... sigh. It is amazing how cars can rock so bad yet still stay on track, but at other times just the slightest little thing can cause a derail, one of life's big mysteries to me. Thanks so much for taking the time to visit and check out the derailment video my friend.

[@delmaracer]

What a great video if you like trains, and I don't know anyone who doesn't. Real railroading, for sure.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Bob for the very nice comment. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with me my good friend. Very glad to hear you enjoyed this one.

[@Crouse_Property_Maintenance]

I've seen the re-railing process a bunch of times but, That's Railroadin'!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you so much Andrew for stopping by and watching today's home movie my friend. Always an adventure re railing stuff.

[@trenamerritt5344]

I was cheering you guys on when you were trying to get er back on the rails and Aww man! When it didn't! Very good video. Glad it finally budged back where it had to go. Good teamwork! Thank you for sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

Really appreciate your efforts at helping Trena. You know how much we always enjoy hearing from you my friend.

[@PlanetMojo]

Great video Dave! I almost said a cuss word as well when the locomotive slipped-off! I thought it was a done deal 🤔 I saw them rerail a steam loco on another video with the help of a front end loader pulling from the other side. You do what you gotta do...

[@ccrx6700]

LOL, like the 3 Stooges, once Curly Joe was in the witness stand 'in court and the bailiff asked him do you swear. Joe answered, no but I know all the words.....:-) Appreciate your efforts you put into the re railing effort tonight Mojo! Believe me there were some "other" adjectives used on the opposite side of the loco, had to cut out some of the film short to eliminate those "railroad" words.... Always appreciate your visiting with me my friend.

[@awesomecronk7183]

Those rerailers made some positively horrid sounds! Glad I could see the process ao in depth, thank you!

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed the show. We very much appreciate your nice comment and for taking the time to watch my friend.

[@jimjohnston7688]

Very interesting video. Don’t you guys just have a giant hand that comes down and puts the engine back on the track like I do in the basement?😅😅

[@rearspeaker6364]

The Green giant was getting his nails done...........................

[@ccrx6700]

You mean an Addams Family giant Thing? he actually had a date that night with Cousin It's twin sister and was unavailable for re railing efforts.... LOL LOL. I hear you on the giant hand, that's the way i learned to re rail on my HO set as a kid. Those silly cars were always coming off. Thank you so much Jim for visiting with us and taking in tonight's home movie.

[@suepugliese6951]

Outtstanding! Thank you! Keep Going!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the very nice comment Sue, glad you enjoyed. Appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch my friend.

[@Eddy63]

Made for a hard day's work didn't it Dave ... Thx for another great adventure ...

[@ccrx6700]

Yes but that's railroading! LOL Really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and write in my friend.

[@RODALCO2007]

Never seen a rerail device at work. Great to see the principle and how it is done. Still a pretty steep incline over a very short distance and with high axle loading enormous forces are created. Great it got sorted in the end. Great video and commentary.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much for the nice comment. We certainly do appreciate your taking the time to check out the presentation and write in my friend.

[@jefffixesit60]

I admire your hard work and sharing the jobs you do with the rest of us. The more I see of #22, though, the more I think it is just on the verge of breaking down on every run. You deserve a lot of credit for keeping the wheels turning! Stay warm, spring is coming, the robins are already here in west Texas

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much Jeff for taking the time to visit with us and for the nice comment. We really appreciate your watching the video my friend. 22 is currently in the shop awaiting an executive decision on whether to put a new engine in it or not, it does have some serious problems.

[@bazza945]

Thanks again, Dave, for another informative video.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Barry, glad you enjoyed the show. That was quite a night, very cold, but we had some good help and the guys all worked very hard together to get that loco back on. Very grateful my friend for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the derailment video.

[@johncloar1692]

What bad luck Dave and on cold night. Thank Dave for the video, it take a lot of dedication to do this work and video it too,

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks John for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your visiting with us and writing in my friend.

[@johndanaher6371]

Sounds like a gremlin at work down there, lol! Thanks for showing us how that works. Shame it didn't do it while you were there. I was cheering you on!

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for your great efforts at helping John! I was so hoping it would have re railed, but that's railroading. Always a pleasure to have you visit with me my friend.

[@3006USMC]

Maybe the front traction motor stalled or is out if phase withe others, causing it to hop or bite the rail and jump out. Just my 2¢. Thanks for the update !

[@rearspeaker6364]

now, that would be a good one.

[@ccrx6700]

You never know, that was over a year ago and I'm still puzzled as to how it happened. Some weird goofball stuff sometimes happens on the RR. Over a year has passed since this was filmed, same loco, loading the cars same way, thousands of times since then with no problems. Go figure. Always a pleasure to have you pay us a visit my friend. Thank You.

[@ianhunter2957]

Hi Dave great video although hard to see properly but the flange of the wheel on the side you were looking at underneath looked quite worn thin not enough flange to hold the wheel on and it jumped the flange underweight from load in front hopper was it travelling pushing the wagons or pulling ?

[@ccrx6700]

These are the times when one wishes he had a GoPro mounted to the axle to see what really happened Ian! Sometimes weird stuff happens. This was taken over a year ago and we've ran thousands of trains since then over this with no more problems. My head is perplexed over this one. Thanks so much for visiting with us and writing in my friend.

[@ewp6505]

You had me up doing stress circles in the break room watching this Have a great day

[@ccrx6700]

Sorry if I caused any anxiety.... :-) Take 2 aspirin and call me in the morning..... Really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@paulbergen9114]

Perhaps #22 had a Christmas wish list and didn't get what it asked for. It is amazing how many times you see and hear someone trying to coax heavy equipment into responding to your wishes. For a while there you certainly were producing plenty of kindling wood. Doctor Diesel.Dave to the rescue!

[@ccrx6700]

I found out long time ago with my tamper, you gotta talk to it and it doesn't like to be cussed at either....LOL This was a very odd occurrence for sure Paul. Thank you my good man for stopping by and checking out the home movie.

[@crippledude04]

Love you Channel, watched this one many times cause I have been in the same situation underground many times, both as a motorman hauling coal in the 70's and as construction foreman at Emerald. the re - railers underground have locking clamps on them to secure them from sliding, we put the rear claw against a tie to keep it in place. also question, was there another re - railer on the other side? once we locked them to the rail, we would block them to keep them from rolling, usually worked great. but that was the 70's . when I went to Emerald the just preferred to Jack LOL. Good job Dave, keep them coming

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad to hear you are enjoying the home movies Mark. From what the guys under ground here tell me they derail all the time and carry jacks with them to re rail. In this video, yes there was another re railer on the other side, it kept slipping out. our better re railers have a bar that goes under the rail and keeps it from sliding, but they weren't with us that night, we used what we had there and gave it a try hoping it would work. Thank you very much for stopping by and taking the time to watch and write in. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@Boilermaker-Rick]

If there is a problem to figure out it would be you to solve it. Thanks for sharing the video Dave

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Rick, but this one still has me puzzled and everyone else too. Really appreciate your kind words and for checking out tonight's show my friend.

[@joewalker9325]

Anoth great video Dave! It’s been awhile since I’ve seen this myself. That’s one thing I miss since I retired, the everyday things that happen, I sometimes wish that I had never retired!!

[@ccrx6700]

I hear you on the wish not to be retired Joe, it will be extremely difficult for me to do. I do love being out here even if there are problems. Thank you very much for watching and writing in my friend.

[@bigmackstruckstop9213]

Enjoyed your show, off the rail what a job, glad it's back on take it to the shop and find a leak of some sort, anyway I'll catch ya on the next one.

[@ccrx6700]

What is most interesting is this video was made Dec 2021. Since that time there has been no further leaks like that. Very odd. Only thing I can chalk it up to is a fluke. I have no good explanation otherwise. Thank you so much for watching and writing in my friend.

[@bigmackstruckstop9213]

@@ccrx6700 well,my I enteresting thing about the railroad is M.O.W,and I got to watch mow kinda close,it's fun to watch,eh hard work,and what's up front....the locomotive,6 axel truck and the truck assembly,power control inside the cab,I was on a CSXT SD40-2 probably 10 years ago that was awesome,to cold to watch trains,waiting on warmer weather,happy rails.

[@ccrx6700]

@@bigmackstruckstop9213 👍😊

[@timothyhays1817]

Can you ever show us the rerailers up close and the differences. Good video thanks.

[@ccrx6700]

Good suggestion Timothy, someday I will do that, but it will most likely be in the far future. I will keep it in mind. Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

[@s16100]

Wow tough night that one was. She sure was stubborn about not wanting to get back on that rail. Thanks for the fascinating and frustrating video.

[@ccrx6700]

Your certainly welcome. Thank you for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your visiting with us and writing in my friend.

[@guymann4016]

I can’t help but to crack up every time the rerail fails. Might just be your commentary etc 😂😂

[@ccrx6700]

Much funnier now that it was that frigid night. Very frustrating indeed. Glad you got a chuckle out of watching. We certainly do appreciate your stopping by my friend.

[@supercuda1950]

With the weights involved, it is amazing trains work as well as they do (the weight probably helps keep them on the rail). Luckily, the engine is back on without having to call in an outside company. Like you said, that's railroading. Great video.

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks for the nice comment Rupert. Always is a pleasure to have you pay us a visit my friend. So glad you enjoyed the show today.

[@briankemp5206]

Great video Dave, very interesting on re-railing. Thanks for sharing.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Brian, so glad you liked watching. Always appreciate your taking the time to tune in my friend.

[@mikelockhart1827]

Dave you had another really good video this evening I really enjoyed it . Dave I really love watching your videos I even try to watch some of your older videos too .

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Mike for the really nice comment. We certainly appreciate your great support of the channel. So glad to hear you have having a good time with us my friend.

[@samuel_towle]

I was wondering if you could use a come along between the side of the locomotive and the trucks to help pull it over?

[@ccrx6700]

We were just about ready to get the prep plants huge 998 Cat loader up there when they said the other loco we have was on it's way. They also have a tremendous big fork lift at the outside yard we could have brought down. Thanks for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@pdalko]

Real American work. 👍👍👍

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you sir for the very nice comment. We really appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@tzadik36]

Thanks for this video. A derailment for no rhyme or reason. Those re-railers don't have moving parts, and cannot be too expensive to keep a set of better quality at hand for situations like this.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Robin. Our better set is lighter and has a wedge type thing you put under the rail to help keep it from sliding. However it was at the harbor and would have been really tough trying to dig out that frozen ballast to get under the rail. Always appreciate your watching and writing in my friend.

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

Awesome video of the challenges of railroading. Enjoyed watching and have a great upcoming weekend.(Steve)

[@ccrx6700]

I'm sure you've been on many similar type of derailments over your career. This single axle sure has me puzzled as to why. Always appreciate your visiting with us my good friend, glad you enjoyed the show.

[@StormySkyRailProductions]

@@ccrx6700 Yes I have and agree with you a 100%. Have a great rest of your day Dave.

[@garymessina1609]

It almost looks like that brake hung up and caused the truck to kick - derail thanks Dave great video

[@ccrx6700]

Weird stuff sometimes happens as you know Gary. Video was in Dec 2021, we've loaded a lot of trains since then with same scenario and zero problems. I have no good explanations other than it was a fluke. The You Tube gods wanted to get a good video out and derailed the loco.... LOL Thanks so much for watching and writing in my friend.

[@wasatchrangerailway6921]

Hey Dave! Shane here! I have seen a wheel partially derail and the flange will ride right on top of the Tball for dozens of feet, and then derail seemingly with no reason. I think the flange lifted up on that concrete slab and rode the top of the Tball where it just decided to fall off seemingly with no rhyme or reason--- I would bet a 100$ on it!!!

[@ccrx6700]

We certainly want to thank you for taking the time to visit with us Shane and for sharing your thoughts. Always is a pleasure to hear from you my friend.

[@wasatchrangerailway6921]

@@ccrx6700 Thanks Dave----likewise!!!!

[@ccrx6700]

@@wasatchrangerailway6921 👍😊

[@Hyrev1]

Thanks for sharing that Dave. Not a who dunnit, but a what dunnit mystery! That had to be gutting when it was so close, but wouldn't climb over! Pretty sure I was saying your swear words for you every time it slipped off the rerailer. Thanks again for a very interesting video! 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃💯👍🇺🇸

[@ccrx6700]

Your certainly welcome Jim. Always is a pleasure to have you visit with us. And thanks for your vocal efforts! :-) Very glad you enjoyed the show my friend.

[@geraldblackburn4883]

Thanks Dave.

[@ccrx6700]

Your welcome Gerald, always a pleasure to have you visit with us my friend. Glad you enjoyed tonight's home movie.

[@davidcotton7668]

try and try again lol, glad the locomotive is back on track dave .

[@ccrx6700]

Yes it is and we are glad of it David....:-) Thank you for taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.

[@finalizedtrains]

Great video and great channel. Not sure why I'm just finding you but you got a sub from me. I'm a machinist with NS in Juniata and my boys and I love to railfan as well. Glad we found your channel!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you finalizedtrains and welcome to our community, we are glad to have you with us and hope you will continue to enjoy. Here is an introduction video to get you a feel for what all we do here at the Railroad and a bit about our mine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYDYmGOwaJlkZ5o Lot's of cool RR videos on our home page if you would sometime care to check any of them out. kzbin.info

[@finalizedtrains]

@ccrx6700 thank you, we'll be sure to check it out 👍

[@dezertraider]

THANK YOU DAVE,,WOW,NO EXPLANATION WHY IT DERAILED..STAY WELL

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed the home movie. We certainly do appreciate your joining in with us and watching my friend.

[@mustralineabsorbine5082]

This was a great video. I never saw a re-railing of any equipment. It sure can be frustrating when so much work is done to make the transition back on the rails goes for nothing. It looks so easy to re-rail. I also wonder where the oil came from. I think that is a problem in waiting, and not easily detected without an axle tear down. Great work. :)

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed Mustraline. Thank you for the very nice comment. Oil was deemed to have come from the traction motor gear box. What is so odd, this video was taken over a year ago and since that night not a drop of oil has leaked. It was just a bad night. Always appreciate your taking the time to visit with us my friend.

[@johnnycee5179]

Gremlins are real, cause all kinds of problems. God bless ya my man, have a great day yourself.

[@ccrx6700]

it certainly does appear to be that way many times Johnny! Really appreciate your paying us a visit and taking in the video. May you have a most blessed day my friend.

[@wmhoward2249]

Dave: No I was working, last night and could not watch this till I got home. I still work one or two days a month. I got the notification, but can not watch vids while working. When I worked for Iowa RR, the old GE's were always jumping off the rail, in the yards light rail..

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you could join in with us Bill. Try to find the comment by Jason27 swg. He was an NS engineer and in his reply back to me he gives a very interesting story of a GP jumping track in a yard he was operating. Thank you so much my friend for your nice comment.

[@klsc8510]

My best guess is the bearing the C power truck was cold and stiff to swing. The truck never fully straightened out coming of the last curve. Maybe some bit of dirt or metal shaving caught and was impeding pivoting right then. A wheel flange on the truck while binding on the rail, finally caught enough traction to climb the rail. I am so glad my HO models are much easier to rerail!

[@ccrx6700]

Someone else with a HO set said they had a giant hand to re rail their cars.... :-) We need a giant Addams Family Thing to help us out. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@klsc8510]

@@ccrx6700 I worked on the now long defunct KLS&C. Kalamazoo Lake Shore & Chicago Railway out of Paw Paw, MI. We had interchange with the CSX at Hartford, MI for freight. I earned qualifications as Trainman, Fireman, Engineer, and Conductor for scenic, dinner and freight trains. I never did track work like you. I did conduct several limb clearing trains to remove low hanging limbs prior to us getting 3 ex-UP dome cars for out second dinner train. There are three videos I know of from the KLS&C on You Tube. At one time or another I ran all the trains in the videos. Engine 85 was my favorite. That was an ex ATSF 2110 GP-7R. I enjoyed my time there. I felt like a kid in a candy store with and American Express card! A model railroader that was able to run real equipment!!!

[@ccrx6700]

@@klsc8510 awesome 👍😊❤️

[@brianhickey5949]

This is a great mystery! A broken rail as you tried to reset the truck and no evidence of why it derailed in the first place. That's a ton of work you did that night and the next day as well. I am glad it is fixed :) You know, this makes me think of the things we used to put on the rails when we were kids - pennies, dimes, and such. Thankfully, we never caused a derailment from all our youthful nonsense!

[@no2thenwo737]

A few years back I had to pull off a reinforced concrete manhole cover off the tracks. That would have derailed it. That clunk, clunk, clunk of some train wheels can be coins that have molded to the wheel under braking.

[@brianhickey5949]

@@no2thenwo737 Yes. These are the things I cringe at when I think back :)

[@ccrx6700]

What is so odd and weird Brian, this video was made a year ago and there has been zero problems like that since. Thanks for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@sphygo]

Is there a reason the wedges used to bring those wheels back on are so short? I imagine they would have slid out a whole lot less if it wasn't such a steep incline. That can't be good for the trucks, slamming back down on the side of the rail over and over...

[@rearspeaker6364]

same here, could it be the longer ones are heavier...... but they work better.

[@ccrx6700]

That's how they are made my friend. I'm catching what you are throwing at me as it seems the longer and less incline the better. Thanks for taking the time to watch and write in.

[@thomasgasaway5068]

Dave, I always enjoy your videos. Good content . Hope you get everything back up and running soon. Could you let us know the defect type. The weight and year rail was made .,name of company who made it. I do as always thank you for your time and effort.

[@ccrx6700]

Glad to hear you are enjoying the home movies Thomas. I found no rail defects at that site, the rail is 132 and was rolled in 1975 by US Steel Illinois, CC. Appreciate very much your writing in and for taking the time to watch the video my friend.

[@wilburroth5150]

Seems strange that only one axle came off. Maybe it had something to do with Friday the thirteenth, lol. Thanks for the video, Dave. Btw, where did that oil come from?

[@ccrx6700]

it is really odd Wilbur, unexplainable, I am perplexed. Oil was deemed to have come from the traction motor gear box, however there has been no leaks since. Thank you so much for dropping by and watching the show my friend.

[@wilburroth5150]

@@ccrx6700 Things that make you go, Hmmmm!

[@bobmeginnes324]

That was really exciting. It was disappointing that we didn't get to see that wheel set rerail and we were just watching. And a lot warmer 🤭

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Bob. We certainly appreciate your taking the time to watch and write in my friend. Wish i could have stayed to see the job thru, but had to get up the next morning to fix the broken rail.

[@bobmeginnes324]

@@ccrx6700 You're forgiven 😀

[@johnnycee5179]

Hey Dave, listen, It has nothing to do with this video but it was brought to mind. Different video, engine and cars pulling over to allow another engine by. While the engine that pulled to the side was stopping and slowly moving frwd the wheels were spinning on the tracks with a lot of sparking going on. Something like that usually caused by too much power applied too quickly or some other reason?

[@ccrx6700]

Very often when starting out with a heavy load the wheels will spin/slip on the rails Johnny. Giving it too much throttle when starting out does not help things at all. It's like driving your car out of an icy spot. Although with loco wheel slip the sanders should have been working to help get more gription.

[@RetiredEE]

How fast and which direction was she going when she dropped the wheel? I seem to recall something about weight transfer when a loco is starting out ("digging in") and some axles might be unloaded enough to walk up on the railhead, especially if the rail crown is gone and/or the wheel taper is off and flange is worn down. Is that original rail from when the line was built, and were all the rails new or were some relaid from elsewhere?

[@ccrx6700]

That is original 1975 rail Craig. It was going at walking speed as train was being loaded. Interesting is we've loaded thousands of trains since this video was taken in Dec 2021 with zero problems. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@davesvintageequipment5319]

I think I was just as dissapointed as you were, each time it rolled back off. always interesting to see the eqpt used on the RR

[@ccrx6700]

Yes sir Dave, it was a real disappointment but that's railroading! Pretty neat to watch tho. Very much appreciate your checking out tonight's home movie my friend.

[@lawrietaber657]

Awesome vid Dave thanks for sharing we used jacks with a little tilt and a jack iron sometimes it would work other times the air was blue 😂😂😂😂

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed the show Lawrie. We really appreciate the nice comment and for your taking the time to watch my friend.

[@TriGogglin]

Yeah live action right there. Definitely don't see that ever, thanks for sharing Dave, did ya find out about the oil, was it bearing grease. Thanks fir sharing

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed tonight's home movie Pappy. Grease was from the axle bearing, must have squirted out when the wheel come off. This is still a puzzlement to me as to why this happened. Mechanics checked everything over and said all was okay. They've ran thousands of trains since this video was taken with same scenario and no ensuing problems. Just a weird sh*t happens kind of night.

[@TriGogglin]

@@ccrx6700 yeah tales from the Dark side kinda stuff.. but at least it didn't happen again

[@cameronmccreary4758]

I am sorry to hear of the derailment today and broken axle. Could it be that the axle bearing started leaking oil which exacerbated an existing condition which may have led to the derailment?

[@ccrx6700]

Thanks Cameron for your concern. Things worked out in the long run, and mechanics checked out the axle after and deemed everything okay. That was made in 2021 and we've ran trains since then with no problems, just a fluke thing. Appreciate your watching my friend.

[@BeeLineEast]

Cool video Dave i used to watch the Steelton and Highspire R.R. re rail gondolas. They were fairly easy to re rail. One of their locomotive went on the ground one time and they could never figure out why. Took them awhile to get the locomotive back on. Glad to see it wasn't a bad Steelton 132 Re that caused that Lol. anyways interesting video brought back memories when i watched the re rail cars on the S&H.

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you so much Michael for the very nice comment. This rail was US Steel Illinois 1975. Always a pleasure to have you visit with me my friend.

[@davenitsch6094]

Awesome video Dave, love your channel my friend!

[@ccrx6700]

Glad you enjoyed Dave. Thank you so much for your very nice comment. We always appreciate your visiting with us my friend.

[@tomedgar4375]

Great video Dave, healthy New Years wishes

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you Tom. Very glad you enjoyed the home movie. We certainly do appreciate your joining in with us and watching my friend.

[@chrisduprey7283]

Was that SD equipped with radial trucks that EMD offered as an option? A malfunction of this feature is what pops into my mind. It helped the truck "steer" through curves.

[@ccrx6700]

No Chris these are the HT-C not the HTCR Radial trucks. Good thought anyways. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and write in my friend.

[@chrisduprey7283]

@ccrx 6700 That's Railroadin! thank you sir. I very much enjoy watching your videos!

[@PBRJOHN684]

Damn that's nasty when just one axle comes off! We had the same problem at a preserved railway I use to work at back in 2007 when we had a Class 37 loco derail but the cause of our derailment was due to the track spreading. So we manually jacked the loco up and the had to manually crank the bogie back onto the track that was a hellish 5hr job!

[@ccrx6700]

Sounds like a job I would not want to be on John! Locos derailing are never fun, specially when it's frigid outside like this was. Thank you so much for sharing and for checking out the show my friend.

[@moebeddah2288]

You got a Tube City bottle opener on that flashlight?

[@ccrx6700]

LOL, not quite Moe, that is a hook for hanging the light. But in a pinch, I think we could adapt it to open a cold one.... Thanks so much for stopping by and watching my friend.

[@edpickering8075]

Thank you...great...

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you very much Ed for taking the time to check out the presentation my friend. We really appreciate your visiting with us.

[@Cnw8701]

Watching this is giving me tears of frustration!

[@ccrx6700]

it was very frustrating being there too Cnw as you can well imagine. Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in to the channel and check out the video. May you have a really good day my friend.

[@Cnw8701]

@@ccrx6700 No problem! Love your content!

[@ccrx6700]

@@Cnw8701 👍😊

[@music100vid]

Very strange that only one set of wheels came off on a 6 wheel truck. It seems like wheels on the opposite end at the least would also come off. Maybe there is more give in the truck side frames than we think or the wheel set has more free lateral motion than we think. Those are the only two ways I can see that the wheels on one end of a 6 wheel truck could derail with out the ones on the other end also derailing. Thanks for the great video!

[@ccrx6700]

Thank you for the nice comment music100vid. We really appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and check out the presentation my friend.

[@tomstrum6259]

So very Interesting & Informative Dave !!....Why does the Rerailer Device have such a Steep Ramp angle ?? ...Seems a Longer Ramp could have more/better anti-slide Retention hardware & the "softer" Ramp rate would be Less likely to Slide from the Tremendous weight ?? A very Irritating Derail Mystery !! Almost like the Normal, dependable, well understand Train Truck--Rail physics decided Not to function & Derail !!! Thx so much for showing us all this serious inside railroading issues !!

[@ccrx6700]

Very glad you enjoyed Tom, we certainly do appreciate your taking the time to visit with us and watch my friend. I don't design the re railers, but, yes a longer slope would be of much benefit. These things are very heavy as they are, it's all 1 guy can do now to carry one, so keep in mind the longer they are the heavier they become. Big problem here was they kept sliding on us.