Central Boiler Classic Edge 760 First Fire and Test!

The Central Boiler Classic Edge 760 is installed, not leaking, and ready to fire up! We have a nice cool fall week ahead to test it out so let's throw in some wood and see how well this thing works!
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[@jorrick66]

From my experience, going into my third year, I’ll share a couple things that have bit me. You want to stack your wood in the fire box instead of just tossing it in there haphazardly. Your wood will bridge and you’ll burn up all your coals and quit gassing. Then you get to go out and build a new coal bed at 2am, in the snow 🙄. The other big thing, you want to split your wood smaller opposed to burning those big rounds. Gassers are ALL about the coal bed. The bigger/greener the wood, the more coal bed you need to run efficiently. Hope it helps!

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Solid advice, thanks!

[@sethhillegass2189]

Interesting

[@lynnbeckwith2021]

How long does wood need to be cut before it is no longer considered "green"?

[@jorrick66]

@@lynnbeckwith2021 different for each type of wood. You can cut ash and it will be sub 20% on a moisture meter in 3 to 4 weeks. Pin oak after a year may still read in the 20’s. In my experience with a gasser, split for at least 6 months is ideal.

[@blueglide1]

Im having the same boiler installed this month,can’t wait to get it going.Wisconsin winters are a good proving ground for these.

[@FireDude13]

Wow it turned out great! Really impressed with it. Looking forward to updates when it gets coooooold 🥶 Thank you so much for sharing! 🤠

[@BalticHomesteaders]

I was intrigued by the heat exchanger box on your previous video and amazed how efficient that little thing is. Looks like a great system overall, a nice set of vids I've enjoyed following the project. Thanks.

[@takeitslowhomestead5218]

Good work. I hope it keeps you warm for many years.

[@LanceTOsborne]

Nice work brother. Thanks for sharing this whole process with us.

[@Aaron_S]

Nice! Looks like it is going to work out well! I lookk forward to more updates.

[@Linda-td8hj]

That's great job with the wood boiler 💕🙏

[@toshayonguard4253]

I give myself 5 cord’s and I never run out….keep mine set at 71 degrees year round…..🤟🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@jonathanfrecking1210]

Piece of advice, stay away from green wood with a gasification boiler like you have! They don't like green wood at all! You'll be cleaning it out alot if you keep doing it!

[@lynnbeckwith2021]

How long does wood need to be cut before it is no longer considered "green"?

[@jonathanfrecking1210]

@lynnbeckwith2021 minimum of a year, but a year and half is better. That's cut and split. It doesn't necessarily need to be stacked but it will get better air flow through it if it is stacked.

[@artyberkhoff8878]

if its not split it may not dry, get a moisture meter. or when2 logs banged together it should sound like 2 baseball bats@@lynnbeckwith2021

[@enscribe]

Glad it's not giving you flashbacks of the old wood burner, that thing was a disaster.

[@hithere7382]

We use the 140 degrees setting on our natural gas tankless water heater to make the dishwasher work better and to make it easier to blast grime off of dishes without using so much soap in the sink. It's also really nice for blasting filth off of cars and grills, boilers etc.

[@hankjordan2602]

Mixing valve is the way to go. My central boiler is 20 years old just love it I like the 24 hour burn time I have neighbors they have a 12 hour burn time.

[@triciasklodowske5653]

Build a deck, out of pallets, for stacking the wood on right next to the boiler. Thanks for sharing. God bless.

[@kaycox5555]

AWESOME!

[@richardnott9587]

We picked up different trailers including boats trailers and made wood boxes on them. As we fill we stack them and tarp them. As we need wood we just hook up a trailer and bring it over and park it close. When it runs out we just get another trailer and only handle that wood twice. 7 trailers makes it the whole winter in Kansas. About 5 cords roughly.

[@jimanddiana4103]

Very cool!

[@mikeharris2985]

Good video someone made already said something about the size of the wood and how to place it in. Keep a eye on the build up around the door and the door opening. Some people scrape the door opening every day or two. Keep updated on progress

[@kentcorbett5436]

Nice unit you got going there they are the best invention for big places we've got one in our shop it's 21 years old to shop is 40x210 and I burn 12 to 15 cord but I burn only or mainly popple

[@Ygglur]

Like that woodburner. I would put a mixing valve in your system.

[@jameskniskern2261]

Time to build your wood sheds up around your boiler... ;) Have fun!

[@neildriedger637]

GREAT VIDEO TODD 👍🇨🇦🇺🇸❤🙏

[@PeeterPuncher]

Good video, I live not too far from you (north of Howell/Fowlerville area) and have been researching alternatives for heating to reduce our propane consumption. I've been leaning towards installing a wood burning stove in my basement. The problem I have is not a lot of trees on my property so I would have to find and import to my property.

[@fricknjeep]

hi there i liked this one also . my neighbor has one of those . he really likes it john

[@rupe53]

You may find you get a better burn once you figure out what's needed to be loaded for a single day, instead of loading to the gills and seeing how long it lasts. (2-3 days) You might be amazed at how little is needed once everything is up to temp.

[@curtisharlan9230]

Cool

[@ghostbirdlary]

i want one because its cool

[@brandonpaul5712]

I'm starting my third season with the same boiler. My advise is burn dry wood. If you keep burning that unseasoned, green wood it will plug the turbulators and heat exchangers in the back in a couple weeks and you will hate that boiler with a passion. I also haven't changed many settings in mine. Some people love to constantly tweak settings, I changed my set temp to 190 and shut off the coal bed saver option... the rest are factory default settings. It has a leaning curve to run it but you'll figure it out.

[@LORFCASTER]

Any other points of advice ? :o

[@lynnbeckwith2021]

How long does wood need to be cut before it is no longer considered "green"?

[@brandonpaul5712]

​​@@lynnbeckwith2021lots of variables in that. Could be anything from 1 month for ash that is almost dry to 2 years for oak that is green. I would suggest getting a moisture meter and test the wood by splitting it open and test the inside and make sure everything is less than 20%.

[@caleb9138]

Screw pallets together to create several crates to move with the tractor.

[@shannonduqum1034]

Just a suggestion, the shark bite adapters you're using ontop of your hot water tank use rubber washers to seal. I always sweat those connections to keep from having an issue down the road

[@DavidRobinson-mx6cl]

Need a ole hay elevator to get wood up the grade ! Just a cheaper idea . easy to position as needed .

[@Self.reliant]

That boiler seems pretty nice. We had one a while ago and that thing went through 14 cords of wood in a normal MN winter. It was hard getting enough wood to keep it running

[@peteantos-ketcham3493]

If you can build a level area adjacent to the boiler, you could use your tractor and IBC tote cages to bring loads up from your landing and set them next to the boiler. You could set several of them and be able to run off of those for a while - I think each one holds 1/3 of a cord.

[@rupe53]

I had a similar idea of leveling an area with rubble rock and pouring some concrete as a cap.... then build a woodshed roof. Doesn't matter if the pad is 5-6 foot high because he will be moving wood with the loader bucket.

[@sheamcclure6639]

the IBC totes are what all my buddies use. You can get them cheap up here in VT and with a set of forks for the tractor they are easy to load and move. They all cut the plastic out and use it for a sloped cage cover if there is not a shed for storage.

[@peteantos-ketcham3493]

@@sheamcclure6639 I'm in VT too but am having a hard time finding affordable sources of IBC totes lately - at least close to me. I see a source in Orleans and also in Bennington - both a good 2 hrs + from me.

[@sheamcclure6639]

@@peteantos-ketcham3493 bummer. I am in Fairfax right next to the industrial park with the baby food supplier so they are always available. Lots of maple producers grab them as cheep sap tanks.

[@richardnott9587]

We made several cheap trailers from old boat trailers we picked up and just made wood boxes on that. I park them tarped in another area and as I need wood I just go get another trailer and park it next to it.

[@kansaIainen]

Try filling the fire pit by putting the biggest stumps down and the smaller wood on top and start the fire from the top so that it goes down slowly and no creosote is produced.

[@keesverhagen9227]

That is indeed the better way to go. Since 10 years i also do that in my woodstove. Otherwise i have to clean the chimney twice per winter. And beleive me. It is sometimes very cold up on my roof and my nuts sqeezing on the rooftiles. And it takes me 10 minutes to get to the chimney. And whit snow and hard wind much longer.🤭

[@judymckerrow6720]

Maybe you could revisit this when it’s cold and blowing snow this winter? 🍁🍂🍁💚🙃

[@charlesvaughn5055]

thanks for the information, and video. looking good all the computer checking the smoke and temps.

[@Egleu1]

You should add a mixing valve to the outlet of that water heater, 160 degree water can cause immediate burns in a shower.

[@vesc1389]

Check out Curtis Stone’s vids… he built box frame atop pallets for stacking wood. Then moves them as need with pallets forks on his skid steer.

[@johndoe1909]

gasification is the way to goo. good secondary and tertiary burn with basically no creosote/tar buildup.

[@davidcrowson4745]

Looks like a nice setup... Think you might build a lean too over it??

[@billiamc1969]

It would be best for your wood boiler to keep your wood covered so it dries out well before burning...that is a lot of creosote from just 1 nights burn

[@Abijah12411]

FYI: Average home hot water is 120 f, whereas 140 f is restaurant kitchen temp...

[@darthgbc363]

You might want to put the firewood closer to the opening side of the door, not the hinge side. I wouldn't want to walk all the way around that big door while carrying a heavy log in -40° weather. If you put in big logs, like I do, also add small with it.

[@dennisfoltz7880]

You might be able to use a trailer to hall your wood to the furnace. Leave the trailer parked beside and load the furnace off of the trailer. Just an idea don't know the severity of your hills

[@ericwendel1258]

Would like to see an updated video on the boiler!! How it’s running and if your getting 100 percent burns consistently.. thank u and happy burning

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Will do soon!! Lots of videos in the works

[@ericwendel1258]

@@SSLFamilyDad sounds good

[@scifycartoon]

Note , if you put a mixing valve, put your dishwasher before it!

[@ELAM305]

Great video we live in Mlian MI. We are looking at purchasing a central border about how much would one cost for a 2600 square foot home including large pole barn. My other question is what happens if your fire goes out does the water freeze in the boiler. Once again great video look forward to seeing more of them

[@bryancondrey6457]

Can you have this built with a sight glass?

[@TigerRifle]

I have to ask...What about clean out?

[@williambalasa1015]

Have you use any of that heat to create electricity for power and other renewable energy

[@gregoryhumphries8956]

With your burner cut and split small wood for drying purposes. Like 16-18 in longs and yes you can split small. That isn't like the old Classic. Put in big rounds and wet wood. Didnt matter. The drier the better in your gasser. Your wet wood will show up in the new form of Creasote. So there again dry wood

[@BRWfilms]

How does the furnace work with it?

[@blaststars37]

Open the bypass when loading wood... you need the flame/smoke to go away from you.

[@MAM-cy3yy]

Hopefully that high tech controller never gives you any problems. I'd hate to have that malfunction in the middle of a cold winter.

[@cedricsimmons2033]

Hello and good evening change your outdoor pipe to central boiler brand and you will use a lot less wood

[@aliendude60]

Any idea electric usage run pump and blower.

[@tradingwithwill7214]

how was it hooked up to furnace etc i only saw the hot water tank connection

[@fiily1]

Great job and video! Acts 4:11

[@rayclark8920]

Oh my conditions are mild now 2° your ride isn’t much but you wait to those temperatures drop you’re going to be losing a lot of heat. You should’ve spent the money and got a better insulated pipe. Not to mention would you better have lots of wood.

[@solstar4778]

What is that metal pole on the inside of the firebox ?

[@michaela1655]

A tempering valve is a great idea. Better safe than sorry, a bad burn is very painful, and you do have children living there.

[@HomesteadJay]

Thanks for sharing info on the 760's. Im still rocking the classic 6048 but this will be my replacement when that unit is done its service life. They look pretty neat. Id love to see how to behaves with a load of green wood versus dry wood!

[@bennsellingit3100]

What is the expected lifespan of one of these units..how many years??..thanks

[@HomesteadJay]

@@bennsellingit3100 Depends on how its maintained. Its like anything. You can beat it up and neglect it and get maybe 7 years or do things correctly and get 20+ years!

[@bennsellingit3100]

@@HomesteadJay thank you for the reply ..I hope it's a good one for you

[@james5360]

Just shut the domestic hot water gas burner off so it doesn’t fire up. Then you don’t accidentally burn expensive propane until you turn it on after you shut down the boiler.

[@ehhehh4049]

Get rid of those shark bites on the hot water heater. They work ok on plastic but copper doesn't seem to grab as well.

[@JeremyClauser]

130 degrees 30 secs hot water 30 secs 140 takes 5 secs. Invest in a mixing valve.

[@JeremyClauser]

Guessing your account is being spammed, hacked

[@jeffhoughton2765]

Just watched your in the attic film I was concerned that all the old insulation kicking around reminded me of asbestos this is dangerous and carceogenic please check it out...... Jeff

[@davidsalvagni3462]

Won’t that heat loss be more once the ground is frozen?

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Probably! Depends on how deep they are buried

[@Trump985]

Thanks for making the video. That’s a real nice unit, but good god is it expensive I can buy a lot of fuel oil for that price. That’s assuming I could get enough free wood to run it. I have problems getting enough wood to keep a couple wood stoves burning. I’d be lying if I told you I haven’t ever paid for wood and I still had to cut the trees down.

[@SSLFamilyDad]

For is it came down to money. For propane we would need to be on a payment plan for $400 per month. I took out a loan for this unit bat $250 per month. I am saving $150 per month at least. I can pay this off quicker and once paid off I will be saving $400 per month

[@stevewood8942]

These things are water heaters, not water boilers. Boilers send steam to radiators which produce heat. Don’t confuse the two.

[@russiannpcbot6408]

This has Holocene vibes but this door is steel instead of wooden.

[@emreviewsmore3807]

Whats the price tag on that unit?

[@ashotinthedark3182]

why not top down fire?

[@UltraPrimatrix]

I just fired up our 760 for the first time this past weekend. It works great but I haven't been able to get the Firestar controller to communicate with the online dashboard even though the wifi light is solid green.... any advice?

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Could try to reset it and connect again, I noticed that the controller has the wireless n channel disabled by default, might need to go in and enable it if you are connecting to a N band on your router

[@judymckerrow6720]

Do you think that it might be a good idea to build a lean to over it to keep it out of the weather? And maybe keep some of the wood from accumulating snow on it ? 🍁🍂🍁💚🙃

[@rupe53]

woodshed is a great idea, but the boiler is made to be exposed.

[@judymckerrow6720]

@@rupe53 my son-in-law built a lean to over his and his is suppose to be an outside one as well. It just keeps some of the weather off it and you when you go to fill the stove. I believe he also extended his chimney to go through the lean too. My northern daughter married a southern man and I don’t get down there very often so I can’t quite remember how he did the chimney but I believe that he extended it.

[@rupe53]

@@judymckerrow6720 ... very common to extend the chimney, depending on which way the wind blows. I would be checking the owner's manual on building anything too close. There are also building codes on distance from a heat producing appliance. Typically, it's 5 feet, but things can vary by make and model.

[@daveschooley8514]

If your DHW is too hot, why run lines to it first, go to your heating system first, get the most to your home heat, you only need 120-130 to your showers? I think getting you home heated is better than adding a mixing valve to lower the DHW?

[@iandouglas4992]

I think the rationale is likely so there's enough heat for peak demand.

[@brentburnette4585]

How do you plan to maintain the fuel for this in the long term? I know you have lots of trees around you, but considering the downsized land, you'd have to replant like crazy or hunt down firewood I'd imagine.

[@Mr135792468a]

He has a tree trimming company drop off loads of logs.

[@SSLFamilyDad]

I have 5 acres here with 1000 times more wood than we had on the 25 acre farm. Plus I have friends and family that also have trees coming down and I have trees down everywhere. It will be a long long time before I am running out of wood, now time…. That is another story lol

[@brentburnette4585]

@@SSLFamilyDad Nice! camera angles just make it seem like smaller trees. Always enjoy your vids! Stay safe!

[@zakksrage]

Wood is a dime dozen my guy. Asplundh gives away logs by the truck load

[@brentburnette4585]

@@zakksrage So, the trick to being more self reliant is to rely further on other companies?

[@henryknox1186]

A top-down fire starting is a better method and less checking in on the fire.

[@andybeshear]

Heat rises & always has. Ashes choke the reactions involved in combustion of organic material.

[@latterdayzeal7925]

May our thoughts be turned to God!! I find that whenever I turn my thoughts to Serving others in prayer and share the light with others, that’s when the light and Gods blessings distill upon me. I actually had a dream where Gods voice told me that, he also told me that many of us underestimate the POWER of prayers and he showed me this in a vision where I prayed and he immediately came and placed his hands on my head. I have had days where between my health and my baby I feel like it’s too much to bare. However when I put God first and look into him in my thoughts and remember to pray and especially when I serve others I feel hope again and I am physically able to push through. That’s the grace and goodness of God!! And he even gives me vision s and dreams of instruction and encouragement and tells me that he is ready to heal me at any time! He is just waiting for me to have faith and now I just want to tell everyone that we don’t need to wait for the rapture to be delivered..he can deliver us whenever! We need to truly learn what faith IS! If you Pray for a dream and ask GOD to tell you what he needs YOU to do to be healed and helped and he WILL answer according to your faith!

[@XcessCapital]

Any major reason you went with this particular unit? I first came across wood fired boilers after seeing a HeatMaster unit. Just wondering if the Central boiler is the better option. Thanks!

[@SSLFamilyDad]

After some research I found these to be well built and they had the tax credit. I think either option would have been fine

[@daviddzedzy9194]

how much that cost

[@adambater2767]

I liked the comment you made (someone is useing the hot water now) 😂😂😂that is a always in our house 4 girls an 4 boys an me an my wife i keep my stove turned up at 185 at times it approaches 190 an that hot water we have is the best I thought about the mix valve but every one knows not to turn on just straight hot water so we haven’t had any issues 🤞🏻

[@elwood0286]

How do you get tree companies to deliver wood to you? Is there a fee for that?

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Chip drop.com

[@dannyduncan7407]

how much dose that boiler cost

[@capt2278]

Is that amount of creosote normal after just a few burns?

[@Techmatt167Official]

It’s all wet wood so not really

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Yes, because it is not that cold out the boiler sits idle most of the day and just smolders. Once it fires up and runs more often it burns all that up

[@capt2278]

@@SSLFamilyDad Thanks

[@sevastoskoumtzis5401]

You don't need both the hot water cylinder and the plate heat exanger !

[@SSLFamilyDad]

There is no hot water cylinder, just the plate heat exchanger

[@sevastoskoumtzis5401]

@@SSLFamilyDad aaaah ok my bad 😉

[@ghostbirdlary]

how much does the wood cost? i would think its more expensive than natural gas would be currently. obviously in a couple decades its gonna be way cheaper to do wood than gas

[@SSLFamilyDad]

Wood is free, just requires time and energy

[@ghostbirdlary]

@@SSLFamilyDad yea but like how much does it cost to buy the wood and deliver it? bc i dont have a bunch of trees to cut down so like i would have to pay for the wood and transport

[@skrtskit1521]

💖💖🎶🎶

[@kenadams3951]

You could get rid of the Old cat in that thing

[@selador11]

Once it starts cycling, this is literally a hot water heater!

[@rupe53]

hot water is already hot. It's actually a cold water heater.

[@selador11]

@@rupe53 This is a running joke here. Calling a water heater, a 'hot water heater'... When as you say, it heats cold water to make it hot. BUT... The boiler... Once it starts circulating the water, water that has already been heated, and is still hot, gets circulated back through the heater. Making it a hot water heater, once it is is circulating. I guess if you have to explain it, it is no longer funny...😀

[@rupe53]

@@selador11 ... I have an HVAC license, so I get the joke, even though the phrase is incorrect. You'd be amazed at how many people in the trade don't give it a second thought. The boiler itself is really a hot water maintainer, if you put some thought behind it. English is a funny language. How many people call electricity "hydro power" but shorten it to just hydro? Someone from another country thinks, oh my, you get water from your receptacles.

[@RRaucina]

For 18,000$ I can buy 2 new wood stoves and 5 to 10 years worth of firewood. Hard to see the cost / benefit ever going positive.

[@shawnbauer5562]

$17,000 just for the 760... plus ship, prep and install... must have been over 20k

[@89Ayten]

Remember folks, these aren't incinerators. Don't put glossy, inky, waxy paper, plywood (glues) in it to burn for fuel. The man in the video just did it once (and hopefully once) to get the fire started.

[@rupe53]

burning trash makes a lot of ash. OTOH, once a season to get started won't matter much.

[@dorisharrison9885]

👍🇱🇷

[@scottbaican9566]

Not a bad way to spend 10k

[@mjuberian]

20 year payback or 30?

[@SSLFamilyDad]

4 year break even

[@mjuberian]

@@SSLFamilyDad Not a chance... show me the math

[@marilynm8812]

Honey, what happened to your beard? Oh, I was just filling the wood boiler.

[@luvdogsandhorses]

Suggestions and criticism USE THE CLEAN RELOAD FEATURE OF YOUR APP !!! Split your wood smaller unless it is really dry Don’t tell people it monitors temps in the firebox- i think that is false It monitors water temperature and reaction chamber temps Dont put temp probes on the pex put it inside the water flow or on outside curve of brass or copper elbows - learn about laminar flow and temperature variations Spread true and helpful information Enjoy your boiler Be Safe

[@BLAZE13011]

I've never understood the point in a mixing valve, that's why we have hot and cold taps lol it should be obvious that hot water is hot lol

[@hillbilly24]

If you have young children or very elderly people who you are caring for it allows you to limit how hot the water can be. 120 is a good limit. Its what's required in most nursing homes for instance. However you can crank the heater up to 160 and it will last a lot longer. Just an example your millage may vary.

[@rayclark8920]

Also looks like you may have some sort of leakage going on your hot water heater around the top of it and on top of it signs of calcium buildup you may want to check it out that hot water heater probably is leaking.

[@1kbs11]

My thoughts: Stop burning trash and unseasoned wood. Remove any overhead near by tree limbs. (JF)